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[–]dowhatuwant2 882ポイント883ポイント884ポイント 1時間 前x2 (193子コメント)
>Vote counts, before and after, of a SRS brigade
>SRD thread about /u/potato_in_my_anus getting shadowbanned
>SRD talks about SRS doxxing
>/r/MensRights on /u/violentacrez being doxxed
>SRSters sking for a brigade
>More brigading
>An entire post of collected evidence
>An entire thread that contains evidence of brigading, along with admin bias in favor of SRS
>Here's a PM that mentions doxxing and black mailing
>Direct evidence of /u/violentacrez being doxxed
>SRS getting involved in linked threads as of 2/21/14
>SRSters asking for a witch-hunt after being banned from /r/AskReddit
>"Organic" voting. Downvotes on a two day thread after SRS gets to it.
>User actually admits to voting in linked threads
>Is there any more serious evidence of SRS abuse? All of this is 8 months or older a mix of different dates, so some more recent evidence would be greatly appreciated. It would be good to know if we're in the right here or if we need to reevaluate; however, I'm fairly certain that we're not the shit posters here. I can foresee another bout of SRS related drama flaring up soon. It would be nice to find something recent to support our position because then nobody would be able to claim that SRS has changed.
>Let's please avoid duplicates. Go for the two deep rule: don't post something as evidence it can be reached within one click of a source. If you have to go deeper, then feel free to post it.
>Update: Evidence post of SRS organizing to ruin the lives of multiple people.
>Update: the admin /u/intortus is no longer a part of the admin team and is now a mod of SRS, as shown by this picture (as of 3/19/14). This is clear evidence that at least one admin is affiliated with SRS in a clear way, thus giving credibility to the notion that SRS has or had at least partial admin support.
>Update: There is also evidence that SRS is promoting or otherwise supporting the doxxing of /u/violentacrez. RationalWiki has a section on Reddit and the moderator there is pro-SRS; in the section on /u/violentacrez, there is personal information (name and location) about where he lives. I won't link to it, but you can look for yourself.
>Update: An entire post of evidence that SRS brigades. Courtesy of /u/Ayevee
>Update: Here's SRS brigading a 2 weak old thread, as of 4/27. Ten downvotes since it was submitted.
>Update: An album of SRD mods banning a user and removing his posts when he calls out SRD mods for being in line with SRS
>Subreddit analysis, where SRS posters are also posters in SRD en masse (highest on the list).
[–]NopeNotTrue 247ポイント248ポイント249ポイント 1時間 前* (52子コメント)
u/spez
Please answer any post relating to SRS and the fact they have been proven to brigade/DOX in the past. Isn't the whole entire subreddit just brigading?
EDIT: I'm not even campaigning to ban SRS - I would honestly prefer no subreddits be banned (that don't host illegal content where the servers are). People who use reddit need to be prepared to act like an adult and ignore anything they find "offensive" or triggering. I draw the line at "harassment" but it is such a tough thing to clarify what harassment is that I'm not sure any subs should be banned at all under that ruling. I just want to hear his thoughts on the leeway they seem (I said seem!) to have been given for offences other subreddits have been banned for (allegedly). I don't think the situation is so clear cut and I would love to hear his thoughts.
[–]LostLozenge 25ポイント26ポイント27ポイント 48分 前 (0子コメント)
SRD should get some flak for that too. Their bias is not incredibly difficult to see, and the sub is largely used as a platform for advertising comments/arguments/positions that the OP disagrees with regardless of whether or not it is 'dramatic'; the fact that others hold opinions which differ from their precise sensibilities is 'dramatic' enough for more than a few submitters there, apparently. People do vote on linked submissions from SRD, and it hardly takes any effort to backspace the 'np' out of the address bar.
Subreddit analysis, where SRS posters are also posters in SRD en masse (highest on the list).
Not surprising.
[–]dowhatuwant2 169ポイント170ポイント171ポイント 1時間 前 (40子コメント)
Mocking and calling people stupid is not harassment
But doing the same while calling them fat is apparently. Fucking hypocrites.
[–]HexezWork 52ポイント53ポイント54ポイント 58分 前 (3子コメント)
You can mock them and call them stupid as long as you agree with our staff's politics.
FTFY if you were confused.
[–]MarxistSmurf 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 9分 前 (2子コメント)
You can mock them and call them stupid as long as you don't tell people to kill themselves and degrade them to the point of calling them sub-humans.
FTFY
[–]HexezWork 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5分 前 (1子コメント)
You never been to SRS now have you?
Thats a daily occurrence.
[–]robotortoise 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3分 前 (0子コメント)
Proof? I've always seen people saying this but they never link any recent proof. It's always like 2-4 years old.
[–]u_Belong_To_Me 33ポイント34ポイント35ポイント 50分 前 (19子コメント)
FPH was banned for doing stupid shit like brigading /r/suicidewatch threads and telling people to kill themselves.
[–]Parasymphatetic 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 42分 前 (16子コメント)
So why didn't the user that did that get banned? Why was the whole subreddit and all of its spawns closed?
[–]BtmnDetroitDeserves 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 40分 前 (14子コメント)
Because FPH mods were participating. At that point, the sub is so toxic that killing it is the best thing to do.
[–]___Towlie___ 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 30分 前 (5子コメント)
Citations? This whole set of responses is hearsay from both sides. I'm interested in citations that prove either 1)FPH mods were brigading. Or 2) FPH mods weren't brigading.
As far as I'm concerned, anyone that whines about FPH (pro or against) rarely brings proof to the table and I'm sick of hearing both of them.
[–]BtmnDetroitDeserves 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 10分 前 (0子コメント)
Here is a post that does a great job of explaining why FPH deserved to be deleted, replete with screencaps.
https://archive.is/GYd1c
[+]MarxistSmurf スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 11分 前 (3子コメント)
FPH was constantly on the front page embarrassing and harassing people. If you spent any time on the website at all, you'd know that.
[–]dohhhnut 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5分 前 (0子コメント)
So they banned it because it got too popular?
I don't get it.
[–]___Towlie___ 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1分 前 (0子コメント)
Once again you bring no proof.
Honestly the majority of posts I read about FPH is from people whining about it one way or another. Stop being a little hitch and bring proof to the table or shut up.
[–]Deathcrow -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 8分 前 (0子コメント)
I've been on Reddit almost daily for more than five years. I haven't seen anything from FPH except people complaining about it.
I don't browse /r/all though. I recommend doing the same if you're easily offended.
[–]Parasymphatetic 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 39分 前* (5子コメント)
Maybe but i don't understand how subs that do equally effed up shit still exist?
And why wouldn't i be allowed to reopen FPH with new mods and ban all users that harass people?
[–]MarxistSmurf 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 12分 前 (2子コメント)
The WHOLE point of FPH was to harass people.
[–]Parasymphatetic 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 10分 前 (0子コメント)
Yes yes, you are #1000 to say that. But why are other similar subs still up? No one can answer me that.
[–]dohhhnut -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 4分 前 (0子コメント)
Nope, the point was to say mean things about fat people, which is VERY FUCKING DIFFERENT from harassing.
[+]saysAverysmallman スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 34分 前 (1子コメント)
The new, cleaner, sub with new mods and better rules is /r/fatlogic
[–]caedarii 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 31分 前 (0子コメント)
/r/fatlogic existed prior to /r/fatpeoplehate, they were totally different subreddits.
[+]cynoclast スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 39分 前 (1子コメント)
Lies. No they weren't.
[–]BtmnDetroitDeserves 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 30分 前 (0子コメント)
There were screenshots of a woman asking them to take down a photo of her friend, a photo her friend posted in some DIY sub. The mods took turns mocking her and refusing to take it down.
There are other examples. I'll go and dig them up if you're actually receptive to information that doesn't confirm your own beliefs on the topic.
[–]Anon159023 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 23分 前 (0子コメント)
Same reason PCmaster race was banned, you do stupid shit like that a lot and eventually they just cull the source.
However Pcmasterrace didn't have a giant hissy fit and worked to improve and got unbanned unlike FPH.
[–]municipalpaste 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2分 前 (0子コメント)
Is there any evidence of this. I'm not pro FPH btw, I hated the sub. I just feel like an accusation like that needs to be backed up with evidence.
[–]ConnorBurnsRed 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 44分 前 (0子コメント)
I think we got one in /r/raisedbynarcissists too
[–]AnExoticLlama 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 54分 前 (9子コメント)
/r/fatlogic isn't banned
[–]UroBROros 32ポイント33ポイント34ポイント 47分 前 (7子コメント)
To be fair, I think a lot of people see /r/fatlogic as more negative than it is. It's centered around calling out the bullshit that people use to fool themselves into thinking what they're doing is healthy, rather than calling out the people themselves, if that makes any sense.
I'm actually (successfully) on a weight loss trip of my own, and I frequent /r/fatlogic to keep my own bullshit in check. Just my 2c.
[–]AnExoticLlama 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 38分 前 (1子コメント)
No, I'm pointing out the problem with the other guy's post. Not talking about its negativity
[–]UroBROros 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 26分 前 (0子コメント)
Ah. Gotcha. My bad!
[–]I_ABUSED_YOUR_CHAIR -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 41分 前* (4子コメント)
I dunno, but "kill yourself fatty" or comments along those lines are often spawned from that and related places. If I ever were to come to a point where I'd actually consider that 'constructive criticism' or 'moral support' I'd like everyone I know to kill me quickly.
There is literally (yes, literally) nothing dumber and more stupid than such negative comments becoming the norm.
EDIT: Upon second thought: I must say the days of /r/fatlogic and related being that bad seem to be numbered.
I'm actually impressed with the moderation there. +1 to the mod team.
And -1 to you guys. You're quick to downvote on disagreement. Something something reddiquette
[–]ProductofUnreality 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 36分 前 (1子コメント)
I think there's a massive difference between comments like that being spawned from a sub and having a sub that's entirely devoted to sentiments like that.
[–]I_ABUSED_YOUR_CHAIR 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 25分 前 (0子コメント)
Arguably, /r/fatlogic isn't that bad, especially lately. I wonder where all the FPH users who frequented there went. Is voat finally a stable platform for all the lower scum now?
[–]UroBROros 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 26分 前 (1子コメント)
RELATED places perhaps, but that sort of content is pretty quickly and harshly moderated out of /r/fatlogic.
[–]I_ABUSED_YOUR_CHAIR 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 22分 前 (0子コメント)
I must say the days of /r/fatlogic and related being that bad seem to be numbered.
[–]shaggy1265 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 12分 前 (0子コメント)
People love to ignore this.
/r/fatpeoplestories isn't banned either.
Confirmation bias is a hell of a thing huh?
[–]OBJesus 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 12分 前 (0子コメント)
Lmao of course this comment is still making its rounds on reddit. FPH wasn't banned because they made fun of fat people. There's a reason that sub was banned, but Fatlogic wasn't.
[–]Strix97 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 13分 前 (0子コメント)
Calling someone fat = not nice
Following people into other subs (ex: /r/SuicideWatch) and commenting how they are terrible for being fat. = Harrasment
[–]Its_Phobos 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
Would you not consider reposting people's pics from /r/loseit into fph crossing a line? While it didn't happen a lot, it certainly took place, and plenty of people then got their jollies by crossing subs to mock them. Hell you couldn't even point that fact out in fph because you'd be banned as a fat sympathizer. I don't think it should have resulted in the sub being banned, especially in light of /u/spez effectively saying racism (and probably homophobia, misandry, misogyny, etc) are a-ok, but to pretend harassment wasn't taking place and continuing to whine about "muh freedums" made the subscribers sound as stupid as the butterhuffers with their cundishuns.
[–]-moose- 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 22分 前 (0子コメント)
you might enjoy
A joke making fun of Reddit CEO Ellen Pao is removed for "harassment" after receiving more than 3000 upvotes.
http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/378smw/a_joke_making_fun_of_reddit_ceo_ellen_pao_is/
[–]BackAlleyPrisonRape 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 8分 前 (0子コメント)
Dude, FPH celebrated and cheered someone on who posted to /r/suicidewatch. That's fucking harassment but you guys don't want to accept that. Encouraging suicide is harassment and if you don't like that then go to Voat.
[–]TitoTheMidget -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 28分 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah, except FPH was banned for harassing the Imgur staff. Nice try tho.
[–]comrade-jim 27ポイント28ポイント29ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
They're brigading against white cis males and we here at reddit have no problem with that.
[–]Pebcaks 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 40分 前 (1子コメント)
Of course, that's the good type of brigading, it's encouraged by these SJWs apologists.
Fucking hypocrites...
[–]___Towlie___ 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 28分 前 (0子コメント)
Gotta let the SJWs feel like special snowflakes. Otherwise they'll realize they're just people with baggage. Can't let that happen, now can we.
[–]DJSmuga 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 34分 前 (0子コメント)
Lol they're gonna just breeze right past that one.
[–]WillyWeStack 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 36分 前 (0子コメント)
u/spez won't answer. He's one of them.
[–]Turk182 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 20分 前 (2子コメント)
I will eat an entire bowl of popcorn if /u/spez responds about SRS
[–]PMME_YOUR_TITS_WOMAN 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 17分 前 (1子コメント)
He won't.
[–]robotortoise -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 2分 前 (0子コメント)
Cause the evidence isn't recent. SRS doesn't do shit nowadays.
I don't like em, but they don't do much.
[–]KonigTX 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5分 前 (0子コメント)
Answer this please /u/spez
[–]ShadowHandler 114ポイント115ポイント116ポイント 59分 前 (17子コメント)
SRS thrives on harassment and they really need to go... I had to create a new reddit account because I made a joke about feminists with my last one, not even meaning to offend anyone. There was a post about some misguided feminists at a rally that attacked a photographer for doing his job, and I posted a comment like "I volunteer to be the bus driver for the next rally... But our first stop will be a cliff.". SRS found out and followed me around downvoting me. They also doxxed me, found out where I worked, and tried to get me fired... All because I made a stupid comment which I don't think any reasonable person would associate with being serious.
This went on for months before I deleted my account, and it caused me a lot of stress. If that's not the definition of harassment I don't know what is.
[–]Stupid_Moogle 43ポイント44ポイント45ポイント 53分 前 (10子コメント)
You should notify the admins of this immediately. Doxxing is harassment and can have serious repercussions on the people it affects, and I'm sure the admins take it pretty seriously.
[–]ASTRAL_LIZARD 67ポイント68ポイント69ポイント 42分 前 (6子コメント)
SRS has two different ex-admins as moderators, there is a 0% chance that particular subreddit will be disciplined.
Reddit admins are fine with harassment as long as you don't call the people you're harassing fat.
[–]NikoMyshkin 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 20分 前 (0子コメント)
this does, sadly, appear to be true
[–]shaggy1265 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 10分 前 (3子コメント)
Then why have /r/fatlogic and /r/fatpeoplestories been allowed to stay with no threats of being banned?
[–]ASTRAL_LIZARD 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7分 前 (1子コメント)
Neither of those subreddits harass people.
Subreddits that harass people directly include SRS, SRD, TumblrInAction, JustNeckBeardThings, FPH etc.
FatPeopleHate harassed imgur staff directly, they got banned.
The subs above harass other communities directly, and are allowed.
Why?
[–]robotortoise -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
I dunno about the other ones, but SRD's goal isn't to harass. It links to users, but it bans anyone who comments and uses np links. If that's intent to harass, well, the word has been butchered.
[–]DeadlyPear 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 9分 前 (0子コメント)
They mostly stay within their subreddit from what I've seen.
[+]TitoTheMidget スコアが基準値未満のコメント-32ポイント-31ポイント-30ポイント 29分 前* (0子コメント)
/r/SRSMythos
OMG NEGATIVE COMMENT SCORE! IT MUST BE THOSE DAMNED ESS JAY DUBYAS!
[–]BeardMilk 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 51分 前 (2子コメント)
They do those actions off of Reddit where they can't be tracked.
[+]TitoTheMidget スコアが基準値未満のコメント-16ポイント-15ポイント-14ポイント 29分 前* (1子コメント)
[–]BeardMilk 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 17分 前 (0子コメント)
It's not really mythos, people can just use a twitter account that's unaffiliated with their Reddit username to dox someone. As long as they add the relevant hash tags, their info finds their audience.
[+]spacehogg スコアが基準値未満のコメント-21ポイント-20ポイント-19ポイント 37分 前 (5子コメント)
So you were harassed because of your lack of humor and as soon as you made a new Reddit account this all disappeared? Why do I believe this comment is lacking some vital info? Is that you /r/violentacrez?
[–]ShadowHandler 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 24分 前 (4子コメント)
Nope. Not a hate monger, creeper, or terrorist... Just guilty of making a joke of poor taste.
[–]spacehogg -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 4分 前 (0子コメント)
What I'm wondering is, if you've been doxxed, how does making a new Reddit account fix everything?
[+]CollectionOfAssholes スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 15分 前 (2子コメント)
Do you realize that was fucked up? Did you apologize at the time?
[–]ClemsonPoker 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 14分 前 (1子コメント)
So people can avoid doxxing if they're properly ashamed? Fuck off.
[–]CollectionOfAssholes 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 4分 前 (0子コメント)
What are you talking about? I said nothing about doxxing or my opinion on its appropriateness. Relax and try to engage with others like a reasonable adult.
[–]DistortedLines 58ポイント59ポイント60ポイント 1時間 前 (4子コメント)
/u/spez please answer that, and while you're at it why are /r/subredditdrama and /r/bestof allowed to stay when it is obvious how much they brigade? Or is it okay because these don't alienate companies who wanna put ads on the website?
[–]shaggy1265 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 8分 前 (1子コメント)
Just curious, what is your definition of brigading? Because it sounds like you think simply posting a link to a thread is considered brigading (which is isn't).
I am banned from SRD because I commented in a linked thread. They've got rules in place that they enforce to prevent brigading.
[–]ONLY_COMMENTS_ON_GW 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5分 前 (0子コメント)
It's not just posting links to threads, it's the downvote party and typical harassment that comes after. If you want proof just scroll up to /u/dowhatuwant2's comment
[–]Arch_0 -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 8分 前 (1子コメント)
/r/bestof uses No Participation mode
[–]mEsjycCxNe8y7x 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
lol
[–]vereonix 53ポイント54ポイント55ポイント 1時間 前 (12子コメント)
Admins n' such always avoid discussing and dealing with SRS, there must be some reason, but I can't figure out what.
Great comment btw, they can't ignore all this blatant brigading, but I'm sure they will, as they have for years.
[–]MAJORPOOPY 29ポイント30ポイント31ポイント 47分 前 (3子コメント)
Seriously. I've seen dozens of questions in these admin threads the last few weeks and they NEVER get touched by the admins. It just reinforces people's suspicions that SRS has some sort of admin support.
[–]ConnorBurnsRed 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 44分 前 (0子コメント)
well, /u/intortus was a mod of SRS, and an admin..
[–]ASTRAL_LIZARD 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 41分 前 (0子コメント)
Suspicions?
https://i.imgur.com/K0ZHZY2.jpg
[–]-moose- 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19分 前 (0子コメント)
https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3djjxw/lets_talk_content_ama/ct5xchr
[–]exoendo 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 27分 前 (1子コメント)
because every click baity offendo-blog on the internet will talk about how reddit banned the "only sub that criticizes racism" or something like that.
[–]vereonix 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 21分 前 (0子コメント)
Criticizing racism while being racist to white people, hating men, and oblivious to satir, jokes, and context. As well as disregarding any opinion given by blacks/gays/women on topics they don't like, all while being white middle class men themselves.
Wonderful.
[–]A_Mouse_In_Da_House 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 9分 前 (0子コメント)
It's a bit to do with money. I worked very shortly with an ad agency. You wouldn't believe the hoops I was told to jump through for the SJWs so that they'd buy our products.
Typically they are: White, College Educated, Moderately wealthy Women. They are avid social media users. They will buy any product even remotely relating to their personal views. They will promote this products via social media, and in turn their followers will purchase the product as well.
They're pandered to because money, and the desire of money is the root of all evil.
[–]Sterling__Archer_ 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 33分 前 (0子コメント)
2 ex admins are SRS mods
[–]Zarokima 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 40分 前 (1子コメント)
but I can't figure out what.
Isn't it obvious by how many admins become mods of SRS subs after they step down from adminning? Because Reddit is staffed by SJWs, so of course they're going let their little friends get away with breaking the rules.
Really, the lack of response even though everybody knows how toxic SRS is just shows that it is indeed Reddit-approved harassment.
[–]-moose- 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 20分 前 (0子コメント)
[–]WillyWeStack 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4分 前 (0子コメント)
Because they are all a bunch of fucking nerds who couldn't get laid in a whorehouse until they got some cash in their wallet and now they have these pink haired idiots blowing their dicks to get them to do what they want.
[–]onlyblackredditor 118ポイント119ポイント120ポイント 1時間 前 (4子コメント)
This is a really well put together post. Too bad /u/spez will ignore it.
[–]oss_spy 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 32分 前 (0子コメント)
I only wish that OP gave me credit for it :/
[–]EFlagS 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I hope he will give a reply. He has to. I've this point made time and time against but no response at all.
[–]ConnorBurnsRed 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 44分 前 (0子コメント)
Of course he will.
[–]piss_chugger 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 23分 前 (0子コメント)
Be careful saying that. If he does respond, you open yourself up to what happened to this guy: http://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3djjxw/lets_talk_content_ama/ct5skav
[–]seb6554 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 40分 前 (0子コメント)
A decent solution would be to force them to submit content in the same fashion as /r/quityourbullshit. Literally forbid posting links to the reddit.com domain on SRS. From the /r/quityourbullshit sidebar:
LINKS TO REDDIT ARE FORBIDDEN - ONLY SCREENSHOTS ARE ALLOWED. PERSONAL INFORMATION MUST ALWAYS BE CENSORED.
They get to "see the poop" but now it'd be very difficult to "touch" it.
[–]AirPhforce 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
You can use this site to see the votes of posts linked to from srs/srd and other places, and graph their score changes.
[–]-moose- 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 24分 前 (0子コメント)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC7vbK_UoOg&t=27
https://archive.is/sLyUe
Friendly reminder. SRS mod u/intortus used to be one of reddit's administrators
http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3ajx12/friendly_reminder_srs_mod_uintortus_used_to_be/csdhfou
would you like to know more?
https://www.reddit.com/r/moosearchive/comments/38byy8/archive/crtwfg9
[–]uguysmakemesick 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 28分 前 (0子コメント)
I guess the way I look at it is like this: if they don't ban r/srs then the admins are all just talking out their asses. And so far that's been the case. So fuck them.
[–]IS_REALLY_OFFENSIVE 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 24分 前* (0子コメント)
It should be noted that I'm not defending /r/ShitRedditSays. If there is evidence of them brigading other subreddits, they need to be banned. However, we shouldn't just focus on them. There are bunch of subreddits that have committed the same crime and if one gets banned for brigading, the rest should suffer the same fate.
There is also evidence that /r/TheRedPill has been brigading.
Do they get banned as well?
EDIT: More evidence about some other subreddits...
r/hailcorporate
User in /r/conspiracy suggest they brigade /r/videos. Post gets deleted but it managed to get to +41 very quickly.
Here we see /u/liberare admitting that /r/libertarian is brigading /r/politics
Here is evidence that /r/Kotakuinaction brigaded /r/anarchism.
[–]BtmnDetroitDeserves 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 37分 前 (0子コメント)
In any debate, the first step has to be to define your terms. What constitutes brigading? Because I have definitely seen something on r/bestof, looked at it, and upvoted it because I personally agreed that it was a good post. I've also seen things linked to in SRD that I downvoted for my own personal reasons. Nobody ever told me to go out and vote as a unified ideological vote brigade. In part because, other than seeing the linked post, I don't really interact with either of those communities in any meaningful way.
What I'm getting at is: if it's just a group of people who agree with each other and say "Hey, look at this stupid thing" and then downvote it without any organized effort to downvote it en masse, then is that really brigading?
[–]itisnotatumah 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 38分 前 (0子コメント)
They really need to stop dodging this question if they want to have any credibility.
[–]robotortoise 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4分 前 (0子コメント)
You...you know you contradicted yourself, right?
The drilldown was bugged.
And none of your points are, ya know, RECENT.
I don't like SRS, but I don't think they're this evil cabal everyone makes them out to be. They don't do shit anymore.
Did they used to be brigading assholes? Yeah. Are they still? Eh....I challenge someone to find any proof that's less than a month old.
[–]GG_Meow 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 41分 前 (0子コメント)
Post archived, just in case.
https://archive.is/vWPto
[–]ConnorBurnsRed 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 45分 前 (0子コメント)
/u/spez
Holy shit, answer this post!
[–]Delinquent_ 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 11分 前 (0子コメント)
How the fuck is this ok, something that has been happening for quite a while but, the second FPH apparently doxxes some fatties at IMGUR, it's taken down. If you're going to cut the cancer away, you can't just remove a little of it. You must remove it all u/Spez
[–]EhStonedTurtle 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 46分 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah, good luck having the admins address this.
SRS brigading seems to be 10x worse than FPH was.
[–]spacehogg 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 56分 前 (0子コメント)
If you are going to talk about brigading, you'll need to include when /r/KotakuInAction brigaded /r/Planetside as well.
[–]nonsense_factory 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 36分 前 (0子コメント)
I believe SRS feels that commenting in a linked thread is OK. My understanding of brigading has always been that voting is not OK but commenting is.
[–]thenakedbarrister 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 11分 前 (0子コメント)
Most of the posts you linked to are old. A few are one year old, but most of them are at least two years old. How is any of this relevant now?
[–]binaryecho 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 31分 前 (0子コメント)
paging /u/spez .
can you maybe address this? the evidence is pretty damning, especially in light of the guidelines you have brought up here.
[–]1amathrowaway 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3分 前 (0子コメント)
You're not getting an answer. It's well known that a portion of the SJW Cabal that mods SRS and default subs also works for reddit.
[–]Seraphus 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 18分 前 (0子コメント)
Great post.
No way in hell he will respond to it though.
SJWs are untouchable here regardless of what they do.
[–]JohnnySwoleCash 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 22分 前 (0子コメント)
May I ask how you can see the downvotes and upvotes for the comments? I thought RES removed that feature..
[–]Ralod 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 13分 前 (0子コメント)
For even more proof look at the front page of SRS right now. They are currently brigading this very post.
[+]Litig8 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 1時間 前 (23子コメント)
What is your solution? Honestly? The only thing you can do is enact strict non-participation link policies. You can't stop someone from going to a subreddit and downvoting something once they become aware of it.
You are just whining for the sake of whining. Who cares what SRS does with their free time? Who cares if they downvote en masse and share the same ideas and goals. Why does that bother you? If they want to waste their time running around downvoting shit, let them.
[–]Ayevee 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間 前 (20子コメント)
You can ban the users and subreddits that organize it, it's too easy for them because the admins don't stop them.
If they're going to do it anyway, let them deal with constantly making new accounts and organizing offsite.
[–]Litig8 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 59分 前 (19子コメント)
But they aren't organizing it? They are simply discussing things that happen on reddit. Are you going to ban subreddit drama and bestof and other aggregators also?
[–]73INVC 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 49分 前 (0子コメント)
I would actually like to see those go. They may not be host to as much concentrated negativity, but you cannot say that a post/comment isnt severely affected in one way or another as soon as its posted to those subs.
[–]Ayevee 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 48分 前 (8子コメント)
Maybe organizing implies it's a complicated process so maybe it's not the word to use, regardless they're linking to comments and brigading them, call that whatever you want but no one else is allowed to do that, it should ether be not allowed or everyone should be able to brigade, that's currently not the case.
[–]Litig8 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 46分 前 (7子コメント)
It is the case though. By your definition, every subreddit that posts a link to another subreddit is guilty of brigading. It's a nonsensical argument.
[–]Ayevee -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 38分 前 (6子コメント)
If you find evidence that comes close to the evidence we have against SRS, you might have a case.
[–]Litig8 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 35分 前 (5子コメント)
All you have is circumstantial evidence. Cool. I'm not saying those people don't go to subreddits and downvote things once they are aware of it, but if you are advocating for banning that type of behavior you are walking into a world of uncontrollable shit.
[–]Ayevee -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 32分 前 (4子コメント)
You don't get it, that type of behavior is banned, they just get a free pass.
[–]Litig8 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 31分 前 (3子コメント)
Uhh just like all the other subreddits and people that do it?
[–]bannedAgainHuh 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 51分 前 (0子コメント)
Why not? Why not ban the metas?
[–]dampfinil 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 50分 前 (7子コメント)
Subredditdrama should be banned.
[–]Litig8 -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 47分 前 (6子コメント)
Lol right.
[–]dampfinil -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 46分 前 (5子コメント)
They are a SRS/SJW brigade.
[–]Litig8 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 44分 前 (4子コメント)
Whatever you say. Not sure why everyone on reddit is obsessed with the SJW brigade as if it's an actual harmful thing. The other day I read a comment during the "Don't give gold!" nonsense campaign that said the only explanation for people giving gold was that it was either the admins doing it themselves, or it was SJWs doing it to piss off redditors.
This place is seriously delusional.
[–]ASTRAL_LIZARD 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 38分 前 (0子コメント)
Reddit is definitely more scared of "SJWs" than they have reason to be, but SRS/SRD and all the other related meta subs are harmful to peoples real life.
Plenty of people have dealt with real life harassment (or even career harassment) over jokes that get re posted to meta subs.
Getting harassed by SRS is equally scary to getting harassed by 4chan.
[–]dampfinil 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 39分 前 (2子コメント)
You act like it's a good thing.
[–]Litig8 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 34分 前 (1子コメント)
No. I don't. I act like it doesn't fucking matter, like 99% of the shit on this site. Outside of actual illegal activity, doxxing, and harassment which affects people's actual real lives, nothing that happens on this place matters at all. It's the internet.
[–]dowhatuwant2 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 45分 前 (1子コメント)
I just don't want hypocrisy, it's clear that SRS brigades and doxxes as much as any other subreddit out there but it's always given a free pass.
You say you can't stop someone from going to a subreddit and doing that but that's the sort of stuff that fph got banned for. He literally just said that mocking and calling someone stupid is not harassment in defense of SRS but add the word fat to that sentence and you have the reason why FPH was banned. They already have their "solution" for these kinds of actions, for whatever reason they don't seem to want to use it for SRS and I'm just calling them out on their hypocrisy.
[–]Litig8 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 39分 前 (0子コメント)
I think you are barking up the wrong tree with the FPH banning which obviously was nonsensical and does not fit any of the rules or proposed rules. If you think something was unjust or wrong, you don't point to other things that should have the same treatment because you'll end up with a lot of unintended consequences.
[–]Squishumz 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
Answer this, /u/spez. Or are you afraid of admiting you don't give a shit about the rules?
[–]Schrodingersdawg 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 51分 前 (0子コメント)
paging /u/spez, please reply to this comment.
[–]tvrdloch 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 13分 前 (0子コメント)
and 0 fuqs were given by u/spez.. its just another PR bullshit, not sincere AMA
[–]tungstan 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20分 前 (0子コメント)
What policy would ban SRS without banning a vast host of other subreddits?
[–]ExtremelyJaded 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 58分 前 (0子コメント)
never ever do admins acknowledge SRS. it's here to stay
[–]oss_spy 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 33分 前 (1子コメント)
Could you at least link to my post? Come on, man.
[–]dowhatuwant2 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
I'm sorry dude, you can see my quote symbols all in there and shit... they didn't apply formatting though for some reason.
[–]NekoLuna 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 51分 前 (0子コメント)
/u/spez, you need to adress this, SRS is not as innocenet as you may think
[–]electricmink -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 24分 前 (0子コメント)
Posted like a true conspiracy theorist. SRS rules explicitly bar voting on linked content, and decrying harassment is one of the primary purposes of the sub, not perpetuating it.
[–]dotMJEG 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20分 前 (0子コメント)
/u/spez ......
[–]Bhangbhangduc -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 45分 前 (0子コメント)
I dunno, how could a post calling rape less horrific that hacking possibly be considered objectionable?
Boggles the mind, doesn't it?
Literally those three posts were defending rape, and you think them being downvoted is an example of brigading?
[–]BourbonScotchWhiskey 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 47分 前 (0子コメント)
/u/spez note what /u/dowhatuwant2 says about SRS
[–]TitoTheMidget -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 31分 前 (0子コメント)
This whole post should just be x-posted to /r/SRSMythos
[–]Frostav -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 44分 前 (3子コメント)
/r/whataboutsrs /r/srsmythos /r/bestofoutrageculture
[–]oss_spy 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 31分 前 (2子コメント)
/r/ignoringevidencethatstaresinyourface
[–]Frostav 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 30分 前 (1子コメント)
lmao do you think I actually give a shit about your """""""""""""statistics"""""""""""""
[–]oss_spy 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 30分 前 (0子コメント)
You don't care about information that shows the facts of the world?
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[–]NY_SP 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 1時間 前 (4子コメント)
Found the fatty
[–]LongfellowShortcock 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 45分 前 (3子コメント)
The beautiful thing about this, is that you stupid /b/ rejects who spend all of your life hoping that this place can be a bastion of free speech so you can ridicule fat people etc. are human garbage and I hope you get your way and turn this place into the shithole you imagine so then all you shitcunts can just roll around together in the shit pile you've created.
Am 150 lbs.
[–]NY_SP -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 39分 前* (2子コメント)
I'm 230, I made a joke, take a chill pill. Never been to 4chan, but good luck with those fallacies.
EDIT: I'd rather be called fat than human garbage by the way, you piece of shit.
[–]LongfellowShortcock 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 36分 前 (1子コメント)
I didn't realize your monitor was off at the time. My bad.
[–]NY_SP -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 34分 前 (0子コメント)
I don't know what that means.
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[+]cam94509 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-124ポイント-123ポイント-122ポイント 1時間 前 (25子コメント)
oh god whining.
[–]dowhatuwant2 38ポイント39ポイント40ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
Mocking and calling people stupid is not harassment. Doxxing, following users around, flooding their inbox with trash is.
I was just addressing this misinformed response to the will SRS be banned question. Most people around here would prefer free speech being upheld but what even the people who are ok with censorship can't stomache is hypocrisy.
[+]cam94509 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-30ポイント-29ポイント-28ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
WhataboutSRSism is a waste of time, friend. Like, I actaully don't CARE about whether or not SRS gets banned, all I care is that it stops getting used as this stupidass bludgeon against "let's ban blatant hatespeech".
[–]capecodcaper 26ポイント27ポイント28ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
Sure, but it's completely valid and needs to be addressed.
It's getting real tiring to see SRS and others get the pass. They dox and brigade, they harass. If they just sat in their sub and made fun of what reddit says they would be fine, but they don't. They actively target other subs.
[+]cam94509 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-24ポイント-23ポイント-22ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I really don't think it IS valid, especially given how many years they've had to collect this crap and they've got is this.
[–]Final_Check_My_PC 25ポイント26ポイント27ポイント 1時間 前 (16子コメント)
Regular poster to SRD and lgbt.
I'm sure you have ZERO bias with that response.
[–]Internets111 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 58分 前* (2子コメント)
As an SRD poster....
Fuck SRS. Bunch of racist, sexist assholes with nothing to do but ruin people's experience of Reddit. I'm about as tumblr as they come, but SRS is a literal brigade, they don't even use np links.
[–]jibbycanoe 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 30分 前 (1子コメント)
as someone who used to sub to s/SRD, that place is now basically full of the same people/ideas as SRS. it's just a bit less jerky. it's pretty obvious on the current post about this announcement
[–]Internets111 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 25分 前 (0子コメント)
True. It's a bit sad, I just want to laugh at steak drama or whatever, and maybe have an intelligent discussion. But it's pretty hard, sugesting that people can bring up good points can get you downvoted to oblivion sometimes.
The low-effort jerk seems to have calmed down a bit, but that's about it. The basic ideas haven't changed, although recently they seem to have been dilluted a bit due to new members from the "dramawave".
[–]WowZaPowah -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
Why would posting on /r/lgbt create a bias for SRS? Just because you're gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgender/queer doesn't mean you support harassment...
Also, as evidenced by your other comments, you have a clear bias yourself. Too bad you're blind to it.
[–]cam94509 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 56分 前 (0子コメント)
Well, I mean, to be fair, /r/lgbt is the more left leaning of the two lgbt targeted subreddits. He's also not wholly wrong: I am basically the prototypical SJW, for the "anyone left of me" definition. I'm not, in the "keyboard warrior" sense, but that's really neither here nor there.
He's also super transphobic, but he's hilariously bad at actually hurting me, just good at making it clear that he's trying to.
[+]cam94509 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-22ポイント-21ポイント-20ポイント 1時間 前 (10子コメント)
shrug nobody is free of bias, friend.
[+]Final_Check_My_PC スコアが基準値未満のコメント-25ポイント-24ポイント-23ポイント 1時間 前 (9子コメント)
Shrugs especially if they're a tranny
[–]cam94509 -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 1時間 前 (8子コメント)
literally proves my point.
[+]Final_Check_My_PC スコアが基準値未満のコメント-18ポイント-17ポイント-16ポイント 1時間 前 (7子コメント)
It's okay tranny, try not to get too triggered.
[–]JebBartlet 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
When people in the transgender community speak out about bullying, this is the kind of shit they're referring to, right?
[–]cam94509 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 54分 前 (0子コメント)
Eh.
This is "I AM FLAILING AND TRYING TO HURT YOUR FEELINGS!" more than the kind of shit we get IRL, which hurts more... I have a funny story about the time someone said they were allergic to my penis, for instance, but honestly I don't think I'm the ideal advocate for anything in this thread, tbh, so I'll dodge on trying to seriously educate here.
[+]cam94509 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 1時間 前* (4子コメント)
I'm sorry, but my trauma is in another castle.
Edit: Fuck you guys that was funny.
[–]OTL_OTL_OTL 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
This made me laugh XD
Final Check needs to cool it.
[–]cam94509 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
tyty.
[–]Final_Check_My_PC 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
With your uncle in the past.
Shut up my line was funnier.
[–]AllRedditDoesIsWhine 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 23分 前 (1子コメント)
All Reddit Does Is Whine!
[–]cam94509 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 21分 前 (0子コメント)
Basically, though.
Including me.
[–]Vordraper 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 27分 前 (0子コメント)
fuck off fagert
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[–]youAREthefather- 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 33分 前 (0子コメント)
You're so edgy.
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