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[–]spez[S] 446ポイント447ポイント  (347子コメント)

Sure. /r/rapingwomen will be banned. They are encouraging people to rape.

/r/coontown will be reclassified. The content there is offensive to many, but does not violate our current rules for banning.

[–]xlnqeniuz 24ポイント25ポイント  (58子コメント)

What do you mean with 'refclassified'?

Also, why wasn't this done with /r/Fatpeoplehate? Just curious.

[–]spez[S,A] 54ポイント55ポイント  (52子コメント)

I explain this in my post. Similar to NSFW but with a different warning and an explicit opt-in.

[–]Bibbity-boppity 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I notice that I still get porn posts when browsing r/all. Will these posts still appear on r/all?

[–]EmilioTextevez 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you thought about simply revoking "offensive" subreddit's ability to reach /r/All? So only the users of those communities come across it when browsing Reddit?

[–]Parasymphatetic 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

How can you opt-in or out from the stuff if the persons are all over the site? Surely it can only work for the subreddits not for the users?

Can i opt out that i see any comment from an SRS poster? Can i opt out from getting private messaged by them? Downvoted by them? Etc?

[–]busterroni 9ポイント10ポイント  (12子コメント)

Also, why wasn't this done with /r/Fatpeoplehate? Just curious.

[–]hiero_ 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably because FPH actually harassed users, both on imgur and suicidewatch, which is criteria met for banning. Funny how FPH defenders tiptoe around this blissfully ignorant.

[–]Gandesa 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

They encouraged offsite harassment (the incident with the imgur mods)

[–]busterroni 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

So why were new subs with unrelated mods allowed?

[–]zzzluap95 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The new subs from the FPH banning fallout all got banned

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    [–]A_Cylon_Raider 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Because for possibly the thousandth time, that subreddit was NOT banned because of content, but because of harassment. If they had kept to their own little corner of the basement they'd still be here, but they didn't.

    [–]TheWatersOfMars 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He explain this in his post. Similar to NSFW but with a different warning and an explicit opt-in.

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      [–]elneuvabtg -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Please consider labelling the opt-in for coontown and others "Hate Speech".

      Do not walk lightly around hate speech, please. Make a user click "I want to see communities dedicated to Hate Speech" for it to be allowed. Make sure that a community that wants to use reddit to engage in and promote hate speech is required to wear a hate speech badge.

      [–]zaviex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      or, just fucking ban /r/coontown does the name itself seem like something that should be kept? If you had a public club called coontown, you wouldnt be able to meet in any private establishment

      [–]darryshan 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Will NSFL content be classified similarly? E.g. /r/watchpeopledie.

      [–]theredlore 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

      r/coontown generates as much traffic as Stormfront. As much as you want to hide that fact, and not talk about it it's something you have to come to terms with. There is a racist underbelly to this site, you can't just assume it'll go away if you make it less visible.

      [–]jedberg 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

      There is a racist underbelly to the world, and banning from reddit won't make it go away either.

      [–]danweber 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It's been brought up that reddit was profiting from /r/coontown.

      They are taking that out of the equation.

      It's a good step. Maybe insufficient, but it is a good step.

      [–]Reddits_penis 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      He isn't going to ban content just for being racist. Get over it.

      [–]Josh3781 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yes and if r/coontown got banned you think they won't just go to other subreddits? Kind of fucking lala land do you live in?

      [–]broken42 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      So in other words things that people find offensive will be scrubbed from the website unless it is explicitly enabled by the end user? That sounds like lazy censorship to me to be honest.

      Also yeah you really dodged that /r/fatpeoplehate question pretty hard. To be honest here, there isn't much of a difference between /r/coontown and /r/fatpeoplehate other than the group of people in which they focus on.

      [–]869689698 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      How about /r/GasTheKikes

      [–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I explain this in my post. Similar to NSFW but with a different warning and an explicit opt-in.

      Once opted in, will the content show up in search results?

      [–]JircleCerking 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You did not explain the part of his question on why this wasnt done with /r/Fatpeoplehate ? Or if it will be done with /r/Fatpeoplehate

      [–]papidontpreach 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Doesn't it seem problematic for there to be a "get your hate on" button?

      Better to just let them spend someone else's bandwidth.

      [–]apocolyptictodd 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      So will FPH be unbanned or reclassified or will they remain banned after the policy changed?

      [–]SharpKeyCard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Just as NSFW is, will this tag be user assigned? Or admin/mod assigned? (Volunteer vs Required, basically)

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        [–]bubbamudd 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Similar to NSFW, another type of content that is difficult to define, but you know it when you see it, is the content that violates a common sense of decency. This classification will require a login, must be opted into, will not appear in search results or public listings, and will generate no revenue for Reddit.

        We've had the NSFW classification since nearly the beginning, and it's worked well to separate the pornography from the rest of Reddit. We believe there is value in letting all views exist, even if we find some of them abhorrent, as long as they don’t pollute people’s enjoyment of the site. Separation and opt-in techniques have worked well for keeping adult content out of the common Redditor’s listings, and we think it’ll work for this other type of content as well.

        [–]DodneyRangerfield 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

        NSFW is for pornography

        something like NSFP (Not Safe For Public) would be something that is not part of acceptable public discourse (like talking about how much you hate black people)

        You don't see NSFW or NSFP content unless you are a registered user and confirm that you understand what this means and want access to those parts of reddit

        [–]movesIikejagger 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Every time someone has asked about FPH the reasoning has been because members of that subreddit were targeting specific people and bullying them.

        [–]BigDickRichie 123ポイント124ポイント  (17子コメント)

        "Anything that incites harm or violence against an individual or group of people"

        In the end all of them must be gone no matter how. You cant get rid of all the "bad" niggers and somehow keep the "good" niggers, their DNA is what is bad and they will pass on that bad DNA.-A post from Coontown.

        Why is Coontown still here?

        [–]CryEagle 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

        "Because the admins are fat, not black"

        • The_Penis_Wizard aka The_Wizard_Of_Wang, 2015

        [–]stumpyraccoon 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

        The sub is deplorable and the people who post there are awful human beings.

        But if you want to start cherry picking posts that vaguely satisfy that condition, then the entire damn website needs to be banned.

        [–]Enderthe3rd 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Any bad post in a Subreddit can get that Subreddit banned? If I go into /r/atheism and post that we should kill all the religious, then they should ban /r/atheism?

        [–]JalorGotShadowbanned 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Why is Coontown still here?

        Because black people are a very low-income demographic, so banning it and the other Chimpire subs isn't likely to help monetize reddit.

        [–]James_Locke 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Not a call to action, more like a justification for general hate.

        [–]fuck_the_DEA 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Don't post that garbage outside of their garbage fire, thanks.

        [–]old3nglish 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        That isn't a call for violence but support for ethnic nationalism. Trying to ban political ideologies now?

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          [–]QuinineGlow 128ポイント129ポイント  (12子コメント)

          Anything that harasses, bullies, or abuses an individual or group of people

          ...then you'll need to 'reclassify' this statement...

          [–]diversity_is_racism[🍰] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Clearly /r/SRS and /r/TwoXChromosomes are a problem under this, as well as /r/blackladies.

          [–]ButtsexEurope 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Basically he's saying the CWC subreddit is going bye bye.

          [–]46chan 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

          yeah what the fuck, r/coontown constantly post pictures of black people and harrases r/blackladies

          [–]Toponlap 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

          They don't harass anyone. /r/cringe and /r/cringepics should be banned by that logic then

          [–]Vandredd 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          All of them should be banned as well as all harrasing meta subs like Srd.

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            [–]forefatherrabbi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I think what he means is that they can go off into a corner and do this, and they will be separate, but if it starts to spill, over that is when it is banned.

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              [–]JaseAndrews 23ポイント24ポイント  (6子コメント)

              Anything that incites harm or violence against an individual or group of people Anything that harasses, bullies, or abuses an individual or group of people (these behaviors intimidate others into silence)

              How is /r/coontown not considered either of these? It's an incredible double standard when /r/fatpeoplehate is banned but not /r/coontown.

              [–]HazMat68W 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              /r/fatpeoplehate is banned but not /r/coontown .

              Wasnt already stated that FPH was banned b/c they brought their hate out of their sub? This can and should also by applied some SJW groups. If CT engages in the same actions, then I agree CT should also be banned.

              [–]Pitta_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              fph was banned because some of the people there were targeting and harassing people off of reddit, on places like facebook. not just because they were talking badly about fat people. they were actively seeking out fat people in real life to harass.

              [–]fuck_the_DEA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Yeah... What the fuck is this?

              [–]Zachasm 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Probably has to due with /r/Coontown apparently mocks black people but has strict rules against violence or brigading and such. Whereas /r/fatpeoplehate actively harassed Imgur's staff.

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                [–]shakypears 29ポイント30ポイント  (6子コメント)

                What are your thoughts on /r/philosophyofrape?

                [–]FlamingBearAttack 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Considering it exists for the same purpose as r /rapingwomen I would presume that it will also be banned.

                [–]SRS_IS_GOD 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                Probably the same as Raping women. Illegal.

                [–]Waspinthehivemind 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                They said discussing of illegal things is not illegal.

                [–]SRS_IS_GOD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Above he mentioned he is going to ban raping women. PoR is pretty similar

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                    [–]guccigoogle 75ポイント76ポイント  (7子コメント)

                    /r/coontown has a picture of a different black man every day on their sidebar.

                    From your post

                    Anything that harasses, bullies, or abuses an individual or group of people (these behaviors intimidate others into silence)

                    Does /r/coontown not do that?

                    [–]Toponlap 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    They don't harass anyone. /r/cringe and /r/cringepics should be banned by that logic then

                    [–]johnnyscans 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    It looks to be a picture of a criminal who has been charged with a crime.

                    [–]hotfuzz86 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Technically that does not matter according to these rules.

                    [–]SRS_IS_GOD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    It does, but he doesn't want to anger the reddit manchildern.

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                      [–]Meneth 33ポイント34ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      /r/coontown will be reclassified. The content there is offensive to many, but does not violate our current rules for banning.

                      This is the wrong decision. It should be banned.

                      You're harboring one of the world's largest white supremacy forums. That affects discourse on all of reddit. It should be wiped from the site.

                      And by encouraging racism they are encouraging harm.

                      [–]rival13 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Burn it to the ground and salt the earth

                      [–]FredtheFailLord 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      That affects discourse on all of reddit

                      No, actually, it doesn't. The idea that, say, /r/Gundam is affected by /r/coontown is ridiculous. The idea that /r/imaginarytechnology is affected by /r/coontown is ridiculous. The idea that /r/coontown, simply by existing, affects discourse on /r/audiophile or /r/cutelittlefangs is ridiculous.

                      [–]TheyShootBeesAtYou -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Bad idea, unless you're going to ban every potentially offensive advocacy group. You're going to get rid of /r/blackpower too, right?

                      [–]biznitsch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Pls explain how it is a white supremacy forum? How do they affect discourse on all of reddit? How are they encouraging racism?

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                        [–]watitdo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        So you are just going to make it where you have to have an account to go to coontown? You know that doesn't really fix the problem at all. Just take a stand - they will whine but your company will be much better off.

                        [–]DEEP_ANUS 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Anything that harasses, bullies, or abuses an individual or group of people (these behaviors intimidate others into silence)

                        I cannot understand how /r/coontown doesn't fall in this.

                        [–]Waspinthehivemind 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        /r/cootown have done active brigades against /blackladies including flooding their sub with pictures of black deceased children after a verdict by a judge. I hope this isn't considered ok.

                        [–]Kernunno 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Gross. You had half of reddit celebrating with your last post that coontown might finally be gone. Hiding them away doesn't change anything. They are still a hate site with traffic rivaling stormfront.org.

                        Racism is violence and should be dealt with accordingly.

                        [–]goopy-goo 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        /r/philosophyofrape is the same as /r/rapingwomen. Will they both be banned?

                        [–]MrJoobJoob 29ポイント30ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Doesn't /r/coontown by definition encourage racism? That could clearly be seen as causing harm to others.

                        [–]gazwel 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Yep, surely this counts under the harasses, bullies, or abuses an individual or group of people rule?

                        [–]Angadar 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Will you be banning /r/PhilosophyOfRape for encouraging people to rape? Are all subreddits encouraging rape going to be banned?

                        [–]vorrishnikov 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        what a load of horseshit. congrats on condoning racism

                        [–]starducks 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        fucking ban coontown. wtf.

                        my black wife stopped using reddit a while back because of all the racism.

                        [–]AlGamaty 27ポイント28ポイント  (25子コメント)

                        /r/coontown[2] will be reclassified

                        Can you elaborate?

                        [–]SF218 109ポイント110ポイント  (7子コメント)

                        Similar to NSFW, another type of content that is difficult to define, but you know it when you see it, is the content that violates a common sense of decency. This classification will require a login, must be opted into, will not appear in search results or public listings, and will generate no revenue for Reddit.

                        [–]SirCarlo 47ポイント48ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        Seems like a pretty sensible decision from a community and business stand point.

                        [–]SF218 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        I agree, and it's not the first time I've seen an online community adopt this approach.

                        [–]chaanach 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Similar to NSFW, another type of content that is difficult to define, but you know it when you see it, is the content that violates a common sense of decency. This classification will require a login, must be opted into, will not appear in search results or public listings, and will generate no revenue for Reddit.

                        like any subreddit is willingly going to submit to that

                        [–]longooglite 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY!!!!!!

                        [–]Zangin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        It seems a lot of people asking questions didn't bother to read that.

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                          [–]vertexoflife 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          they said it above

                          Similar to NSFW, another type of content that is difficult to define, but you know it when you see it, is the content that violates a common sense of decency. This classification will require a login, must be opted into, will not appear in search results or public listings, and will generate no revenue for Reddit.

                          [–]_vargas_ 37ポイント38ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          It will now be referred to as a "dwarf subreddit."

                          [–]coaks388 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          They're going to make sure advertisers don't get their logo plastered all over that sub.

                          [–]pinterestthrowaway2 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          They'll be demoted to only 3/5th a normal subreddit.

                          [–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Did anyone even bother to read the self text of his submission?

                          [–]Alphaetus_Prime 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Read the post itself, he talks about it there.

                          [–]CavernousJohnson 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Probably given a "trigger warning" like for NSFW subs, I imagine. In addition to requiring a login.

                          [–]chosen1sp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          He is going to try to hide the fact that it is a hate subreddit. My guess is a name change.

                          [–]Ramrod312 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          They'll have be to use separate bathrooms and water fountains

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                            [–]SnifflyWhale 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Well done you've already failed 20 minutes in to the new policies.

                            [–]GrayManTheory 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            current

                            Hugely important qualifier.

                            In other words, taboo subs can stay until Spez feels like he can get away with raising the temperature on the crockpot again without the Redditor frogs jumping out.

                            [–]Fakeaccount234 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I don't know if you're going to see this, but the coontown subwhatever on voat is pretty much off site brigading.

                            It should seriously be closed

                            [–]cheeseburger_dot_mp3 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            r/coontown will be reclassified.

                            This classification will require a login, must be opted into, will not appear in search results or public listings, and will generate no revenue for Reddit.

                            Exactly the same effect as if they moved to Voat except it makes you look spineless and unprincipled. Just get that shit out of here.

                            [–]Zachasm 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            And lose the half of Reddit that hates /r/Coontown but would die for free speech? Ha...haha...hahahahaha. That wouldn't help Reddit monetize.

                            [–]LordMondando 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Some kinds of dehumanizing ok, others bad. Cool.

                            Reason we are having a hard time of this, is its a pretty statutory position and obviously ethically arbitrary.

                            [–]IAMAVelociraptorAMA 22ポイント23ポイント  (8子コメント)

                            This is actually pretty sensible. Thank you.

                            [–]Llim 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Imagine if Ellen Pao had tried to do something like this though. It would have been a nightmare with all of the backlash

                            [–]funkeepickle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            It's a pretty genius middle-ground IMO. Don't censor content, but make it more difficult to access so the only people who see it are those who deliberately choose to see it. I like it.

                            [–]thescheibe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            What is the life of a velociraptor like in today's society?

                            Are you offended by /r/velociraptorhate?

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                              [–]haroldtheblankth 36ポイント37ポイント  (47子コメント)

                              Since /r/coontown will not be banned. Could /r/fatpeoplehate be reopened assuming they comply with your guidelines?

                              [–]iBleeedorange 96ポイント97ポイント  (23子コメント)

                              /r/fatpeoplehate wasn't banned because they hate fat people, it was banned because they went off site ant encouraged harassment.

                              edit: here is a decent comment explaining some of these and giving examples:

                              The campaign against imgur. The lady from /r/sewing. Going after users on /r/keto. Going after this lady. Going after this person in /r/progresspics.

                              More of their brigading and harrasing is documented on /r/hangryhangryfphater.

                              If you are refering to the other subs, /r/neofags was devoted specifically to targeting users on the neogaf forum. /r/transfags was the recreation of a previous sub that got shadowbanned for pming transgender people in various transgender subs with requests for them to kill themselves.

                              From /u/kerovon: here (a private sub.)

                              edit 2: For everyone asking that they should get a second chance to be within the rules, with how bad they allegedly were, i don't think that's going to happen, but /u/spez may be a merciful admin and give it a second try.

                              [–]thescheibe 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

                              Shouldn't the users who did that get banned, not the whole sub?

                              I don't see why a few extreme-ists should define a community's existence.

                              Or was the entire community doing it? I'm behind on that whole scandal.

                              [–]iBleeedorange 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              It was encouraged by the mods iirc.

                              [–]thescheibe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Well then that makes sense. Leaders define their community. If they encouraged avid harassment, that cannot be tolerated.

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                                  [–]LordStormbringer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  They went after specific bloggers and Tumblr users, posted info on how to harass and shitlord specific people outside of reddit.

                                  [–]haroldtheblankth 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                  Yes, that's why I'm asking; if they reformed so they don't do that again, could it be reopened?

                                  [–]I_Have_EYES 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  I'm sure if someone wants a place to discuss that WITHOUT doing what they did before, they can open a new subbreddit.

                                  [–]haroldtheblankth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  All attempts at that have also been banned, saying that any new sub is ban evasion for fatpeoplehate.

                                  [–]Release_the_KRAKEN 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Those assholes won't reform. Maybe if that subreddit returned to how it was originally started off, then I'd have hope for legitimate reformation. But till the end it just turned into the salty neighborhood bully who was too asinine to keep their retarded mouth shut.

                                  [–]LordStormbringer 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Hasn't it been reopened many many times already under different names?

                                  [–]haroldtheblankth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  To my knowledge those all got banned for being "ban evasion" from fph.

                                  [–]Hurt_Fee_Fees 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  But it was reformed as /r/badfattynodonut with strict rules to keep the above problems from occurring.

                                  Shouldn't that sub be reinstated and allowed to operate without breaking the rules?

                                  [–]iBleeedorange 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Depends on who the mods were. The mods were some of the biggest offenders from the sub since they didn't make an effort to stop it.

                                  Reddit may just be doing a scorched earth approach since it was apparently pretty bad in FPH.

                                  [–]kerovon 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  I think bits and pieces of that for posted elsewhere, but it is accurate. FPH was a toxic cesspool that was constantly spreading outside of its own borders.

                                  [–]iBleeedorange 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Thanks again for the comment, I always kept forgetting to save the others.

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                                    [–]TonyQuark 20ポイント21ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                    They were banned because of users harassing other people, not because of its content. Why is this so hard for people to understand?

                                    [–]guccigoogle 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I think he acknowledges that in his comment.

                                    [–]Hurt_Fee_Fees 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    They were banned because of users harassing other users, not because of its content. Why is this so hard for people to understand?

                                    Because right after, /r/badfattynodunut, with strict anti-harassment rules installed, was banned as well.

                                    Sure seems that it's ideas.

                                    [–]Ambarsariya 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    SRS harasses people more than fph ever used to do. Still SRS is not banned.

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                                      [–]jstrydor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      that's an interesting question... they'd probably be pretty hard pressed to ban all fat people hate type subs while /r/coontown is up and running

                                      [–]SupermanV2 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                      Why would you want it back?

                                      EDIT: If you're reading this and you're a fan of fatpeoplehate please make sure to downvote me so I know how many shitty people I need to avoid.

                                      [–]FlamingBearAttack 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Because he wants to bully overweight people.

                                      [–]haroldtheblankth -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                      It was a large, popular subreddit that had a close-knit community that were all kind to each other. Sure, they were dicks to fat people, but weren't you bringing that on yourself if you were a fat person who visited?

                                      [–]KuribohGirl -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      I do miss fph and the wonderful company there. In fact one of the mods was an ex-fat person. They actively encouraged losing weight. Whilst I'm on it the reason the sub was banned was because imgur were like "fuck you" and removed their images and started pissing the mods off so they put the imgur staffs faces (which were publicly available on imgur) on the sidebar thus causing reddit to ban them. Yup.

                                      [–]fakeyfakerson2 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      a close-knit community that were all kind to each other.

                                      Lol. That sub had SRS levels of circlejerk hate. If you broke the jerk for a second and weren't completely hyperbolic in your hate of fat people, you would be banned instantly. There was not an abundance of kindness being thrown around by anyone.

                                      [–]SupermanV2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      That's horse shit. They were absolutely hateful people and they went outside the community to harass others.

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                                          [–]Bagaratoni 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          You don't think /r/coontown bullies a group of people, black people?

                                          I daresay it might even invite violence against them. At the very least, it bullies. A clear violation of the rules as given in your outline.

                                          [–]TunicSongForKaren 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Just ban it. "Offensive to many"? What a bull, it is blatant hate speech that will sooner or later lead to a mass shooting a la Dylann Roof.

                                          [–]AlphaWolf101 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          How can you say Coontown does not violate rules?

                                          What about what they say on their Voat sub? This was when they mistakenly thought their sub was banned.

                                          What about all the brigades they have on /r/blackladies?

                                          As /u/davidreiss666 said, this place is the largest White Supremacist site on the web aside from Stormfront. Why will you not take action to stop that?

                                          [–]justalazygamer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Will past behaviors be taken into account?

                                          /r/conspiracy has harassed many. The two most known examples are Sandy Hook victims and a daycare.

                                          Sandy Hook they doxxed the families and called them. When admins stepped in they instructed each other to go to Voat and continue as well as attempt to use private communities to continue.

                                          They also phyically stalked, called, and harassed a daycare full of children for no reason other than the "truth" that it was a government operation of some sort. When admins finally stepped in mods and users alike told others to go to Voat.

                                          When you go to voat and look at /v/conspiracy it is the same mods meaning they are encouraging continued abuse off site once caught.

                                          They do this every few months and still exist.

                                          [–]rival13 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          The guess Reddit will remain a safe haven for racist, bigoted fucks. Spineless. Kick the bigots out!

                                          [–]gangnam_style 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          So when is this going to happen?

                                          [–]ProfessorStein 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Holy shit lol. You drum up this whole fucking thing about content and purging bad subs, and then the number fucking one on the list of racist bullshit gets to stay. That's some class fucking A keeping the status quo

                                          [–]mizz_kittay 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          That's ridiculous. Stop being afraid of the 15 year old boys and the racists in your user base and put your foot down. NOBODY will miss coontown. How on earth can you sleep at night after typing "coontown does not violate our content rules for banning"? Then change the rules! This is your website! You want your name attached to that racist nonsense? It's not like this is controversial; everyone except the tiny portion of full-on racists can see that coontoon should be removed. There isn't a debate. It's common sense. I feel like in the name of "open honest conversation" you guys are throwing all your common sense out the window. Open honest conversation doesn't mean we have to tolerate blatant racists who are proud of their racism.

                                          [–]Mangalaiii 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          /r/coontown posts encourage murder and violence towards black people. It's a White supremacist forum. Double standard away though bc "blacks don't count".

                                          [–]ReducedToRubble 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          How the fuck does FPH get banned but /r/coontown gets to live on? Surprise, the spoiled white people in charge of Reddit only consider it hate if it happens to them! Making fun of fat, flabby couchpotato admins = UNACCEPTABLE HATE. Promoting the continued oppression of an entire ethnicity = NSFW.

                                          [–]lmpetus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Coontown never "harassed" Imgur employees. IIRC FPH compiled images and names of Imgur's (somewhat) overweight employees and made it their subreddit image.

                                          [–]Chuggsy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          So your solution to an entire network of blatant racism and hate is to try to quarintine it with some minor gatekeeping? That's not going to change anything. Reddit is still going to have the largest white supremicy and anti-black userbase in the world. They will still leak onto r/videos and other subreddits. I urge you to take a stand against giving these people a space to spew their hateful and harm inducing words. There's no point to giving them a space to speak like this.

                                          [–]78123470912734 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Welp, goodbye. I can't support a site that fosters hate.

                                          [–]TheMoneyOfArt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          For subs that are reclassified, since they won't be generating revenue, will they not be shown ads?

                                          I don't think racists should get ad-free reddit. I'd rather they be shown ads and have those proceeds donated to charities they're at odds with. Show racists ads and then give the generated money to SPLC. Show misogynists ads and then give the money to Planned Parenthood.

                                          [–]internet_man_415 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          So yet I'm still wondering why the hell /r/fatpeoplehate was banned as well as the little subs like /r/neofag because honestly they did nothing /r/coontown wasn't doing. If you banned those two, /r/coontown needs to go down asap. Also, you need to ban /r/cringe, /r/cringepics, /r/justiceporn as well if you are banning subs that are bullying others.

                                          [–]46chan 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          fuck man I was all pumped up for those nazi fucks to get banned this is already a disappointment

                                          [–]diversity_is_racism[🍰] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Hmm:

                                          /r/coontown will be reclassified. The content there is offensive to many, but does not violate our current rules for banning.

                                          Similar to NSFW but with a different warning and an explicit opt-in.

                                          This seems like a fair idea. Will you do the same thing for /r/SRS and /r/TwoXChromosomes?

                                          [–]protestor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          The content there is offensive to many, but does not violate our current rules for banning.

                                          Are you kidding? They encourage violence as much as /r/rapingwomen, but in a much more actionable way. I wouldn't be surprised if people encouraged by them ended up committing racial crimes.

                                          [–]Mysterious_Drifter 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Please ban all the related subreddits of /r/rapingwomen as well.

                                          [–]rsplatpc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Sure. /r/rapingwomen will be banned. They are encouraging people to rape. /r/coontown will be reclassified. The content there is offensive to many, but does not violate our current rules for banning.

                                          ok, this is pretty much all I need to hear, works for me

                                          [–]Bawkol 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          What of the one showing dead women?

                                          [–]Torlen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          So you guys ban /r/fatpeoplehate for taking pictures and laughing at them for making terrible life choices, but taking pictures and laughing at blacks for being born black, totally OK?

                                          What sort of stupid ass backwards thought process is that?

                                          [–]TheThng 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          what about /r/killwhitey?

                                          [–]Hedgehogs4Me 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Reclassified as what? I don't want to stick up for them, but what type of classifications are there for subreddits? Will there be a new classification for subreddits that may be offensive to many?

                                          [–]itz_working 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          So a clearly offensive and hateful subreddit can be reclassified and not banned, but a sub like FPH can be banned for allegations of offsite harassment?

                                          That makes a lot of sense....

                                          [–]FakeyFaked 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Oh please. Your public statement that you'll keep /r/coontown just lost millions in potential advertising funds.

                                          There is no justifiable reason to keep that sub.

                                          [–]GibsMeDatBojangles -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          The content there is offensive to many, but does not violate our current rules for banning.

                                          Thank you for doing the right thing here.

                                          [–]mirzabee 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                          Why? Why is /r/coontown not as bad as fatpeoplehate?

                                          [–]Flex-O 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          This has been rehashed so many times. If you really care so much, why didn't you just find out yourself?

                                          https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/39bzdf/why_was_rfatpeoplehate_along_with_several_other/

                                          [–]bearerofbearnews 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          fatpeoplehate was not banned for being offensive it was banned for offsite harassment encouragement.

                                          [–]Mysterious_Drifter 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          Remember that /r/fatpeoplehate was banned for bullying/harassment. They went out of their little corner of hate and actually began causing people emotional distress.

                                          While /r/coontown is absolutely disgusting, they don't go out causing people emotional distress. They aren't actively harassing/bullying others outside of their corner, they're just sitting there and being absolute pricks.

                                          [–]ImAzura 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          So what about SRS which actively harasses individual users, why is SRS still a thing when they're just as bad, if not worse than FPH?

                                          [–]NotThatRelevant 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Why are you asking that guy like he has any say in this what so ever? Jesus, a lot of you really are whiny little bitches. Fuck.

                                          [–]blazefalcon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Because /r/coontown sticks to their own sub, while /r/fatpeoplehate actively harassed people outside of their subreddit.

                                          I hate justifying it, and I hate everything about /r/coontown as most people do, but I have to say that I think the admins are taking a good stance here.

                                          If they start actively harassing people outside of the sub, I'm sure they'll be shut down instantly.

                                          [–]KRosen333 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          What will become of subreddits I frequent, such as /r/KotakuInAction?

                                          What of a sub I do not frequent but am still subscribed to, /r/MensRights?

                                          [–]hamsterdave 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Oh good. So more or less what you've already done that hasn't worked worth a damn.

                                          I always wanted to be associated with stormfront...

                                          [–]themaincop 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          /r/coontown[2] will be reclassified.

                                          Are you going to allow people to start up fat hate subreddits again then or no?

                                          [–]Cartossin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          I'd just like to say I think /r/coontown/ is a lot more hateful than /r/fatpeoplehate/ was. That's just my 2 cents.

                                          [–]koncept61 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          How about a group like /r/badcopnodonut who regularly sends deaths threats to police officers in /r/protectandserve

                                          [–]GoreFox 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          /r/rapingwomen will be banned

                                          If I stay on the modlist will I be shadowbanned? Should I go ahead and leave now?

                                          [–]rephan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          What about the people who actively participate? Will there be a massive genoredditoside of some sort?

                                          [–]dkitch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          reclassified

                                          Could you make the icon for that feature a sewer cover, or maybe the poop emoji?

                                          [–]DetectiveGodvyel -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          /r/coontown talks about killing and lynching and maiming and exterminating black people all of the time. They also harass /r/blackladies through name mentions and alt accounts. They wrote a giant open letter about it but it has largely gone ignored.

                                          [–]Brenbren25 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          /r/coontown ought to be handled with a hazmat suit. I would suggest a policy of isolation and no links within reddit or out of site brigades.

                                          [–]linguistrose 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          /r/philosophyofrape is also a subreddit that encourages rape. Will that be banned as well?

                                          [–]SharpKeyCard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          What do you mean by reclassification? What implications does that have?

                                          Thank you

                                          [–]mxk843 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          What is your plan from keeping those users from spilling into the rest of the site?

                                          [–]CitizenPremier 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          so /r/gasthekikes at least is gone, right? I mean, look at the title.

                                          I'm fairly sure /r/coontown violates the 3rd and 4th rules, but I don't want to go looking for examples while at work.

                                          [–]adagiosummoner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          What about picsofdeadkids? Cutefemalecorpses? Candidfashionpolice?

                                          [–]Ambarsariya 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          This makes sense. Let fph be reclassified and unbanned as well.

                                          [–]no-gods-no-mantrums -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Reclassify it to nothing.

                                          Fuck you for giving a platform to fascists.

                                          [–]A_Google_User 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          So by that standard I trust /r/TheRedPill will also be banned?

                                          [–]MimesJumped 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Just wanted to thank you for banning that awful subreddit.

                                          [–]birdguy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          The content there is offensive to many

                                          Who decides this?

                                          [–]p-wing -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          YSK you don't need the leading slash anymore.

                                          r/rapingwomen

                                          r/coontown

                                          u/spez

                                          [–]uss1701jb 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          So? The leading slash makes things more clear.

                                          [–]p-wing 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          TBH that's a matter of opinion, but you should still know.

                                          AND KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE!

                                          [–]Life-in-Death 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Whoa.

                                          [–]TheYellowRose 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          So the fact that coontown sends brigades means nothing?

                                          http://www.reddit.com/message/messages/3s05f4

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