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Nick Szabo's hidden work (self.Bitcoin)

malignant_serpent が 投稿

Hi. First of all if you're interested in Bitcoin but somehow haven't heard of or read Nick Szabo before, drop everything and head on to his website http://szabo.best.vwh.net/ or blog http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/ right now. This guy saw the block chain, clear as day, 10 years before Satoshi came along. As a thought leader and a polymath, he's up there with Herschel and Newton.

Don't know if it was posted here before, but if you go on Nick Szabo's website http://szabo.best.vwh.net/ and dive into the site's source code, you can not only find the remnants of an epic struggle between a man and HTML, but also a bunch of links that are still active, although invisible on the main website.

I haven't got time to fully delve into them yet, but i thought it may be of interest to some of you. Here they are:

Smart Liens: http://szabo.best.vwh.net/smart.liens.html

Stopping a comet: http://szabo.best.vwh.net/comet.thread.html

Nano-technology, Self-Reproduction & Agile Manufacturing: http://szabo.best.vwh.net/nano.musings.html

Negative Reputations: http://szabo.best.vwh.net/negative_rep.html

Delegation and agreement based certification policy: http://szabo.best.vwh.net/trust.html

Quorum Systems: http://szabo.best.vwh.net/quorum.html

Multinational Small Business: http://szabo.best.vwh.net/multi.small.html

Some other stuff are links to 403'd articles and a smashing collection of 90's era website backgrounds.

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[–]Gallus 12ポイント13ポイント  (7子コメント)

You should try comparing http://szabo.best.vwh.net/smart.liens.html and the original Bitcoin website from 2009 https://web.archive.org/web/20090309175840id_/http://www.bitcoin.org/byzantine.html

They both use "<font size=+1>" which isn't too common (I think?) and protect the email address with a (not all that?) similar image: http://szabo.best.vwh.net/emailgwu.jpg vs https://web.archive.org/web/20110410024735id_/http://www.bitcoin.org/something.png

Can you find more similarities?

[–]mike_hearnMike Hearn - Bitcoin Expert 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

They both use "<font size=+1>" which isn't too common (I think?)

It's not common these days but it used to be a standard way to write HTML in the 1990's. As Nick's article dates from 1994 it's no surprise to see it there. Seeing it in Satoshi's HTML is less expected but what this says is that he learned his craft a long time ago and didn't really keep his skills up to date. This is not news - the Bitcoin 0.1 source code is a grand testament to that (Windows only, no unit tests, Hungarian notation, code randomly splatted around everywhere etc).

[–]malignant_serpent[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks, but honestly... It would be a mother of all ironies if Satoshi Nakamoto, the grand-master cryptographer, was uncovered through shitty HTML tags :-)

[–]koberstein 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I had a Computer Science professor that was an expert in neural networks but had the worst website ever made. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case with Satoshi...

[–]loveforyouandme 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh yes, one's ability to write HTML/JS/CSS and build a good UI does not reflect their general CS talent. They're different animals.

[–]cqm 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

in 2008/2009 I was protecting email addresses from spam with images.

in 2010/2011 I was using contact forms

in 2011/2013 I was creating additional catch-all emails on google apps "hello@whatever" instead of "info@whatever"

[–]shah256 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shhhhhhhhhhh

[–]btc5000 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That font size is very rare most would have quotes

[–]sreaka 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

"remnants of an epic struggle between a man and HTML" - Haha

[–]comprarcaca 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://w2.eff.org/Net_culture/Folklore/Humor/squish.hoax

14 Nick Szabo szabo@netcom.com

The Szabo tentacle is one of the most persistent of all. Even after being exposed the `mother monster' continues to post, because a fairly significant reputation investment has been established under the name. Has strong interest in digital cash. Has admitted to knowledge of fake name use. Probably a T.C.May tentacle.

[–]Lite_Coin_Guy 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

if you are interested in the Nick Szabo story you should read "Digital Gold: The Untold Story of Bitcoin"

[–]malignant_serpent[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Digital Gold: The Untold Story of Bitcoin

Thank you, will do.

[–]Mangizz 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

the book is it really worth? For someone who know bitcoin already?

[–]SatoshisGhost 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, i've done this a long time ago. Basically just do a google site search, site:http://szabo.best.vwh.net/

then open any page that is interesting, view source, and see the fun stuff ;)

[–]Hakuna_Potato 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sites Eric Drexler in the nano-tech article. Upvote for Nick Szabo.

[–]b_lumenkraft 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Awesome find! Thank you! :)

[–]wtfisbitcoin 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Gotta love those funky background patterns on each article

[–]malignant_serpent[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And there's more in the source code :-)

[–]genuise 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

thanks /u/changetip $1

[–]changetip 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

/u/malignant_serpent, genuise wants to send you a Bitcoin tip for 3,348 bits ($1.00). Follow me to collect it.

what is ChangeTip?

[–]dawiepoolman -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

You sir, must be a great private investigator

[–]everydaymotherfucker -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

I want to hear Nick Szabo weigh in on the blocksize debate. If you're reading this Mr. Szabo, please let your voice be heard.

[–]malignant_serpent[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He did on Twitter, but all he said is that the debate needs more computer science and less noise, and proposed that both sides of the debate calm their arguments down, if i recall right.

[–]chalash 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He already did via Twitter a while back. He said something like "both sides need to simmer down," paraphrasing of course.