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Japan finally bans possession of child pronography. (japantimes.co.jp)

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[–]scaly-manfish 752ポイント753ポイント  (70子コメント)

Does that include hentai child pornography?

Edit: actually read it; nope.

[–]ringkun 686ポイント687ポイント  (69子コメント)

However, manga, animation and computer graphics are not subject to punishment under the revised law in light of freedom of expression.

[–]IWannaFuckEllenPage 980ポイント981ポイント  (68子コメント)

Good.

[–]Tenshik 82ポイント83ポイント  (67子コメント)

Yup. I don't even enjoy the loli stuff (I like big hentai tits) but god damn will I defend their right to view and create it. The drawn image has absolutely nothing to do with child pornography. It's not exploiting anyone. There is literally zero negatives in the production of the material and its not like those viewing are somehow fueling the child pornography productions. The idea that its somehow going to create a pedophile is absurd.

[–]Arch_0 73ポイント74ポイント  (9子コメント)

If anything is gives paedophiles something harmless to get off to.

[–]Psychol324 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I don't think loli is similar to child porn because not everyone who like real porn find attractive cartoon characters.

[–]w4hammer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

True but a pedophile will certainly enjoy loli porn. That's like the only thing they can legally get off to. If you take that from them they would just go and get real child porn since both are illegal hence increasing the demand of the production of child porn which leads more child victims.

[–]Sloppy1sts [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

So it's not the same, then. It's still similar.

[–]Psychol324 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

For me loli is more similar to zoo because lolicons are cute as kittens.

[–]Tobibobi [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I remember a friend who had been studying abroad in Japan told me this exactly. Pedos used loli to get off instead of going out and taking an actual kid.

[–]Hellkyte [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This is based on outdated psychology. Most studies of cathartisis show that acting out a milder form of a prohibited action to get some kind of release (like hitting someone with a foam bat) only serve to increase the maladaptive behavior.

[–]Arch_0 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah just like playing computer games and listening to rock music turns you into a violent killer.

[–]Smurfboy82 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

But perpetuates the mental sickness IMO

[–]Call_Me_Craig [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

It might actually serve as a non harmful outlet for the urges a pedophile might have. Better that a fictional child gets hurt than an actual living child.

I don't know of course if that is the case, but it seems logical to me.

[–]fosho_away [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Yeah no source?

Anything associated with orgasm reinforces the dopamine reward circuit in the brain. So no, it doesn't "make" pedophiles, it just makes them more firmly entrenched in their problem.

Pedophiles need therapy and appropriate support, not the-closest-thing-to-child-sexual-abuse-but-not-quite.

Masturbating to a paraphilia increases the attraction to that paraphilia.

[–]Call_Me_Craig [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Pedophiles need therapy and appropriate support

Because that's such an easy thing to get. It's not ideal. But I'd at least prefer someone masturbate to a fictional child than someone raping an actual child or making child porn.

[–]apube [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

But what he's saying is that it won't prevent these people from abusing children. He's claiming that it may make them even more dangerous. Which kind of makes sense. There have been numerous studies that indicate that exposure to certain types of porn can result in people trivializing rape. It would not surprise me if viewing child pornography had similar effects.

Sources: (Ohbuchi, K. Ikeda, T. & Takeuchi, G, 1994), Weisz & Earls (1995), Allen, et al (1995), (Millburm, Mather and Conrad, 2000), (Corne, Briere & Esses, 1992), Zillmann and Bryant (1984), Check & Guloien (1989)

[–]Paradigm6790 11ポイント12ポイント  (7子コメント)

But think of the children

[–]KKamwah 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

The idea that its somehow going to create a pedophile is absurd.

I'm not a pedo, that's my waifu man.

[–]Sevlins 5ポイント6ポイント  (19子コメント)

Be aware that if you live outside the US, it's very likely to be illegal. Most countries in the world ban fictional stuff, US is actually an outlier.

Edit: Well, someone unearthed a 2010 guilty ruling regarding simpson's porn. Seems like states might not be an outlier for long.

[–]darklord0211 [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

Didn't the US ban it too? I distinctly remember seeing a guy go to jail for having lolicon.

[–]aaronsherman [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

All depictions of sex with minors are illegal in the US.

[–]David-Puddy [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

what if you just say she isn't a minor, she's 10000000 years old, just happens to be possessing a minor's body at the moment..

[–]aaronsherman [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Then the depiction of the minor's body engaged in sex, or even undressed would be illegal.

[–]David-Puddy [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

ok, what if she just ages differently?

she's part of a different race, therefore she isn't even human, and is 102912938729347298372189 years old, but just so happens to look like a 10 year old female human

[–]cormega [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

That's not really how it works. "But officer, in my head she's a million years old. She only looks like a toddler"

[–]David-Puddy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

i'm talking about drawings, though.

If you invent the character, you get to decide her age.

god, i can't believe i'm defending kiddy porn disguised as hentai

[–]Sevlins [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The wikipedia article on legality that I was reading claimed it was technically legal in the states. That however might have been for creation not distribution?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_child_pornography

Here's the link I'm referring to. It claims that it can be legal in the states if it does not qualify as "obscene".

I'm no US citizen though.

Edit: take a look at /u/NyteMyre 's comment. 2010 is pretty recent.

[–]NyteMyre [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think it was "The Simpsons porn"

[–]arebokert [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Actually not most but some do. Sweden is one example, however the only one to ever get taken to court for it won the case and didn't get convicted due to the court disliking the fact that fictional porn should be considered childporn.

[–]Sevlins [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I hate googling this shit these days with big brother around, but the wikipedia page on legality showed ~60% of countries ban fictional.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_child_pornography

I haven't double checked their sources, but it's more common to be banned than legal if that page is correct.

[–]Tenshik [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That was Australia.

[–]JjeWmbee [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I saw a real life loli last week, I never knew asian girls could develop so quickly.

Her boobs were bigger than my head and her butt looked like two basket balls, if I had saw her out the corner of my eye I would have thought she was a 4'10 woman. But this girl had to have been 13 she was running to the train with a boy who looked just as young as her.

Shit was weird.

[–]DeepZeppelin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"I don't fap to what you watch but i'll defender to the death your right to masturbate to it."

[–]Lacher [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Well, similarly to the diathesis-stress model, it might serve as a trigger for the manifestations of pedophillic drives.

[–]Tenshik [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Or they keep whatever desires they have constrained to this medium. I don't go out and act out every one of my porn browsing interests and I would assume not many do.

[–]Lacher [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't doubt at least a strong minority of male teenagers project their through porn acquired fetishes onto expectations in bed with women.

[–]fosho_away [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Anything associated with orgasm reinforces the dopamine reward circuit in the brain. So no, it doesn't "make" pedophiles, it just makes them more firmly entrenched in their problem.

Pedophiles need therapy and appropriate support, not the-closest-thing-to-child-sexual-abuse-but-not-quite

[–]Tenshik [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

not quite... It's a fucking picture. Point to me where a kid was almost directly sexually abused because some japanese dude drew a picture.

[–]EllesarisEllendil -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I find loli porn meh too, but I agree if such a law was passed, it'd only be a matter of time before the crazies used it as justification to come after video games. Loli Porn are video games buffer zone.