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Planned Parenthood director caught on tape selling aborted 'baby parts' (liveactionnews.org)

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[–]Ponycar_Driver 104ポイント105ポイント  (37子コメント)

Fucking disgusting. There's a special place in hell for this woman.

[–]gtfooh1011 27ポイント28ポイント  (22子コメント)

She's the shining pride of Democrats everywhere, especially reddit.

[–]BobTheNinjaPanda 29ポイント30ポイント  (20子コメント)

The top rated comment on there was pointing out how over 60% of women refused to answer the survey, which most likely severely skewed the results as people who really regretted it probably wouldn't want to talk about it. It's since been deleted, along with a bunch of other comments. Was it deleted because of any specific rules on /r/science or is this just an attempt at keeping a certain narrative going?

[–]gtfooh1011 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every comment on that sub is acceptable as long as it jibes with the anti-human, pro-darwin, establishment narrative. That's why I've long been banned from it.

[–]ultimisConstitutionalist 10ポイント11ポイント  (18子コメント)

/r/science is rabid liberal on every issue. If for instance you post anything remotely skeptical of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Change, you will find yourself banned from the subreddit or at the very least your comment deleted. They let poor articles that are essentially spam through if it agrees with a liberal issue.

[–]Bookwormy13Libertarian Conservative 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can confirm. I was basically called an ignorant F*** because I dared to challenge climate change being caused by humans. WOW.

[–]PicklePicker3000 -1ポイント0ポイント  (9子コメント)

But isn't the climate change debate practically split 50/50?? Only on reddit do you seem to have freedom of speech but are only free to say what the hivemind thinks..

[–]mmaaffee 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

is it I was always told that the overwhealming majority of scientist say its fact

[–]ThePantsParty 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Definitely not...basically all the large scale polls of the scientific community have the consensus in the 90%+ range.

[–]PicklePicker3000 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Any proof? Not calling you out but from what I have heard there are ok plenty of people that call it both ways. Links?

[–]finerd 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

try and go to r/politics (which is supposed to be nonpartisan)

[–]tehForce 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bipartisan on /r/politics means both communist and socialist

[–]dergrioenhousen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. If you look at my comment history, I made a dissenting point here, and ate -30+ karma for my dissenting opinion on the matter.

[–]ultimisConstitutionalist -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Climate change has happened for the entire history of Earth. There has been no static climate outside of Michael Mann's fabricated hockey stick graph.

Among scientific minded people the majority agree the planet is warming and that humans have been a part of that warming via Green House Gas emissions.

Where skeptics come in is the actual magnitude of warmth from the CO2 forcing. Alarmists (which are a subset of scientists) rely upon a theory that there are large positive feedbacks that exceed negative feedbacks so much so that CO2 forcing is doubled or tripled.

The "secret" here is the amount of warming produced by CO2 is no threat to humanity. It's so small that before we notice any dangerous amounts of warming we will have long depleted all known sources of carbon fuels. This is where the unfounded positive feedback are much greater than negative. And there is zero science backing this. All the models which failed to predict the last 15 years also assumed the above baseless theory.

So no there is no 50/50 divide outside of the political debate (which is also important when discussing "solutions").

[–]3mpir3 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Part time mod of /r/Science here. Stop posting shit articles from shit websites & we'll stop removing 'em.

Without fail, skeptical articles removed:

  • Include every subject; including left-wing skepticism.
  • Are not peer-reviewed.
  • Are from a very biased source.
  • Are NOT peer-reviewed.

[–]ultimisConstitutionalist 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I wasn't talking about articles. I was talking about comments.

Speaking of garbage spam; pnwell who is a self professed paid climate propagandist posts sensationalized articles with no science at all on that subreddit. Yet they are never deleted. The guy is an obvious spammer based on the number of articles submitted to reddit each day yet he has not been banned from r/science.

I'm perfectly fine with garbage skeptical blog spam being removed. What I'm not fine with is the clear ideological hypocrisy of the mods there. Back when I used to visit the subreddit I reported those pnwell crap articles thinking the mods actually cared about science and being professional. Instead the articles persisted and rational posts calling out the garbage article we're deleted from the comments. Essentially you were fine with crap submissions as long as it fit the political narrative you agreed with.

[–]3mpir3 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

PM me a few of his links/posts. I'm on my phone atm, but I'll look into it when I get a break

[–]ultimisConstitutionalist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I haven't visited r/science in about a year. I'm also on my phone. I'll go find a few articles for you tomorrow.

[–]Bookwormy13Libertarian Conservative 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

So basically whatever you deem is appropriate or right, right?

[–]chabanaisThe Bird's the Word 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a tool.

[–]PicklePicker3000 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ehh she is up there for the left but I wouldn't say the shiniest.

[–]MonstarsSuck 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Even if Hell does not exist, she will still be there.

[–]finerd -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

We will build one for her.

[–]not-Kid_Putin 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

All the wrath of hell is for this woman

[–]lovelaceface 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

This makes me so incredibly sad and angry! WTH is wrong with people? People are so selfish and greedy that killing a baby, and THEN making money off the arms, legs, heart, liver, lungs is acceptable?? This is insane...

[–]gtfooh1011 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm not trying to make you sadder or angrier, but in China, they actually ground up the aborted babies into a powder which is then consumed by women who are willing to pay top dollar trying to look younger.

[–]BitchesLoveCoffee 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah that just makes china more abhorrent.

[–]gtfooh1011 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be racist.

[–]tom1844 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's not racist. You simply linked to an article about Chinese women eating babies. How could that be misconstrued as racist?

[–]gtfooh1011 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Democrats.

Edit- I mean cuz Reddit?

[–]arvr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

for $30 - $100 per part

[–]john_the_fishermanLibertarian Conservative 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

On mobile but can't link but I remember an article where they used aborted fetuses as fuel for the hospitals n the UK

[–]BamaWriter 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

As a general rule, I don't up-vote comments that contain profanity, but this is one time I whole-heartedly agree. The use of F-Major expresses the outrage at this woman's callous, blasé attitude. What kind of perverse evil must reside in one's heart to casually SELL body parts?

[–]gtfooh1011 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because to "liberals," those body parts didn't come from an actual human being.

[–]Jormundura -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep a yahoo if I have ever seen one. This to me is sad that I do not even have words to say anything. Just abhorrent beyond reason and measure.

Edit: I find the fact that I see myself and others getting down votes disgusting. I wonder if those who are down voting know that the Nazi sold bodies parts of off their victims as well. So be to specific you support a practice the Nazi did to millions of people and which is illegal as well. Funny thing is you are just as bad as this woman if not worse.

[–]dodelijk 56ポイント57ポイント  (14子コメント)

If you kill an unborn fetus it is ok, but if you take bird eggs everyone gets mad that you are "killing nature"

[–]not-Kid_Putin 42ポイント43ポイント  (9子コメント)

These arent even unborn. Its partial birth. Imagine stabbing a screaming baby in the neck with scissors when its half out and thinking it's ok. Its absolutely disgusting

[–]dodelijk 23ポイント24ポイント  (4子コメント)

That has been done 65 million times. I makes me shudder

[–]jdjs123 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's what I thought. Partial birth?! Isn't that illegal. My God this country has no morals.

[–]gtfooh1011 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can't even bring this subject up when discussing the apparent outrage and utter disbelief at the reports of the baby that was blown up in an ISIS demonstration.

[–]DranoshSoCon, FinCon, antistatist, anti"equality" -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

They turn them breech so that the feet come first, if the head were just 3 inches south and they were to do this shit the "doctors" would be going to jail for a good long while.

[–]MotoTheBadMofo 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Fuck endangered animals amirite?

[–]liatris 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Fuck people who put the lives of animals above the lives of innocent humans.

[–]hayclaylaybaymaysay 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your tax dollars at work.

[–]FeelWhatIFeel 29ポイント30ポイント  (50子コメント)

Will the liberals be able to bury this one?

[–]KingOfTheP4s 54ポイント55ポイント  (18子コメント)

Of course, the media is mostly liberally biased.

[–]TonyFuckingDanza 12ポイント13ポイント  (17子コメント)

Why was such an obviously true statement downvoted in r/conservative?

[–]KingOfTheP4s 39ポイント40ポイント  (14子コメント)

Believe it or not, liberals like to come here to read up on our opinions. If they disagree with them, they downvote them.

[–]TonyFuckingDanza 25ポイント26ポイント  (7子コメント)

Okay, but how can you disagree that the media in the U.S. favors "progressive" ideas over conservative ones unless your head is firmly jammed up your ass?

[–]KingOfTheP4s 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

They know it is, they just don't acknowledge it because it supports their platform. They don't care about anything that doesn't completely line up with their views. Instead of giving other opinions a chance to be heard, they don't let them have a voice so that their option seems like the only option.

[–]pipechapLibertarian Conservative 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

They've been convinced that progressive ideas are centrist, and are the logical, fair and balanced view.

What gets me is, the lowest of low information voters holds progressive rhetoric to be true, so I'm not sure how it's the ideology of enlightened decision making that they tout it as.

[–]passiveegalatarian 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

They argue that all media is biased against them to refuse to accept anything that doesnt align with their views. They even think Gallup is right wing

[–]Armageddon_It 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's the secret. They don't actually care about justice or truth. Just winning.

That's why this horror will be met with, "Why do you hate women?"

These people just paved the way for Iran to get nukes. They're insane.

[–]TonyFuckingDanza 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

And what do we see on the front page today?

Iranians actually LOVE America you guyz!

Hey look! One of their mosques is pretty! They're just like us! Our cool guy John Stewart talk show guest president is so fucking rad!

[–]KingOfTheP4s 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't even think they'd change their mind if Iran turned around the next day and leveled Israel or even lobed a fewnukes in our direction.

"Who's to blame them for nuking us? It was totally uncalled for that we nuked Japan; this was the right's fault for getting into all of those wars! I'm sure if we apologize and listen to their demandsrequests, we can get along just fine!"

[–]finerd 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. It isn't enough they fix the nonpartisan subs like r/politics, they also have to come here.

[–]spaceghoti -4ポイント-3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Believe it or not, liberals like to come here to read up on our opinions. If they disagree with them, they downvote them.

Pot, meet Kettle. (Oops. Forgot the NP mode)

[–]KingOfTheP4s 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I didn't downvote that, I actually upvoted it because it added to the discussion.

[–]spaceghoti -5ポイント-4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I didn't downvote that, I actually upvoted it because it added to the discussion.

Good for you. I didn't downvote you, either. However, based on the vote spread in /r/liberal you might want to remind your fellow conservatives before sneering at us for the same behavior. There are bad apples in every bunch, yes?

[–]KingOfTheP4s 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh certainly, there are. I haven't had a chance to look at the numbers, if they even exist, but IIRC there has been a historical problem of vote manipulation due to the prominent political stance of reddit in general.

[–]matty25Conservative 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This place is for Conservatives, not liberals who are extremely limited in what they can post. Also, liberals should have appropriate flair. Read the sidebar.

[–]matty25Conservative 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because a bunch of shitlibs from /r/politics come over here and downvote everything.

[–]CaptainPaintball 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The liberals, like flies, or a disease, or trained living pieces of shit, aggressively seek out anything regarding abortion, anywhere on Reddit, and then impose themselves on the thread. They also delete criticism of abortion (especially on the extra x chromosome sub) in subs they control. Because they are so tolerant of dissenting points of view.

[–]IIRC 25ポイント26ポイント  (6子コメント)

The leftwing-circlejerk (r/politics) has already removed this story as "off topic"

http://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/3d9jnq/planned_parenthood_director_caught_on_tape/

[–]FeelWhatIFeel 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

Wow, that's messed up.

[–]Armageddon_It 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, it's working as intended.

[–]FeelWhatIFeel 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Censorship?

[–]Armageddon_It 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes. Social engineering. Programming.

[–]Playererf 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But that's not really politics, is it?

[–]Aenemia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're saying it's not true, the video is edited (even though the full video has subsequently been released), and that the group is linked to that "right wing nut job who took down ACORN", James O'Keefe. Nothing to see here, move along. Move along.

[–]Tzukiyomi -5ポイント-4ポイント  (14子コメント)

Bury what? What would otherwise be medical waste is being donated by the patient for medical research. A fee is charged for the process as it is more complicated and takes longer/more skill to perform to preserve proper samples. The end company charges for prepared tissue samples for research. So your options are garbage or use in medical research.

[–]FeelWhatIFeel 4ポイント5ポイント  (13子コメント)

Do we know if they're being used for medical research? If so, why is it being done under the table? That isn't suspicious to you?

[–]Tzukiyomi 6ポイント7ポイント  (12子コメント)

It's not being done under the table, they have discussed the practice in numerous interviews when the whole stem cell debate was happening. There are links to the actual companies, including a major one in California, which are medical research tissue providers. The way this video was made creates the impression of a shady deal when this has been an open practice for decades. It's nonsense meant to inflame people who are bound to think of the original act as murder. If anything the prolife crowd should be insulted that the video maker believes they wouldn't bother to do basic fact checking.

[–]FeelWhatIFeel 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

Care to share any evidence with me that what you're saying is true? Either way, the way the doctor talks so nonchalantly about crushing organs is pretty disturbing to me. On top of that, a report came out today that 95% of women who get abortions end up not regretting it. It's sad that abortion has become a casual form of contraception in this country.

[–]Tzukiyomi 3ポイント4ポイント  (10子コメント)

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/14/the-real-story-behind-that-shady-planned-parenthood-video.html

Covers the basics including the decades this practice has existed. As far as the law is concerned they are seemingly 100% in the clear. As far as the morals of it go it's not my choice so I won't bother expressing an opinion. I would prefer though that some good comes from subsequent research rather than tissue going into the medical waste incinerator.

[–]FeelWhatIFeel 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

Even if this is legal, which it appears to be, it seems as if there are doctors out there who are violating the laws involved in the transferring of fetal tissue.

Also, your source is a liberal news website. I took the time to read it but at the end of the day, Conservatives are saying it's wrong and Liberals are saying it isn't. As a conservative, I don't trust the left as they tend to distort everything that doesn't fit into their agenda. Just like you wouldn't believe me if my source was Fox News, I have a hard time believing The Daily Beast. Until I see undeniable evidence that this video is being over-hyped, I'm going to stick with the right on this one.

[–]SH92 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd recommend watching the video.

They ask her multiple times, many different ways, about selling the tissue, and she repeatedly says that it's not for the tissue, it's for the costs associated with delivering the tissues.

[–]Tzukiyomi 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

Fair enough but the legality is really what matters and it's pretty clear nobody has tried to hide the practice. Whether people find it objectionable is going to be entirely down to existing abortion opinions.

[–]FeelWhatIFeel 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

I don't know man, this is definitely the first time a lot of people have heard of this.

[–]Tzukiyomi 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yes I'm sure, but if you paid any attention to the stem cell debate this was a major part of it. This is exactly how the stem cells for research are collected in these cases. It's just written to inflame people this time by making it sound like it's an organ sale ring when it's the same old tissue service. Alot of people react far worse to it when it's referenced in terms of organs vs tissues. Either way you still only have two options. Medical waste incinerator or research lab. Which do you prefer?

[–]ashlerrr -3ポイント-2ポイント  (6子コメント)

That's the thing. I seriously question the credibility of this. If it were true it would be national news.

[–]TonyFuckingDanza 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

What? Did you even watch the video?

Planned Parenthood isn't even denying its validity, just claiming it was "edited". Notice how they didn't say "doctored" or "faked".

NEWSFLASH: Almost every video you've ever seen has had the boring bits "edited" off the beginning and end. That's very different than "fake".

EDIT: How about a Washington Post article? Is that "credible" enough for you?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/undercover-video-shows-planned-parenthood-exec-discussing-organ-harvesting/2015/07/14/ae330e34-2a4d-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html

[–]ashlerrr -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Assuming this is really her and she has worked for PP, do they have solid evidence that she is talking about PP specifically selling "baby parts"? What and who are the parts going to? They do need to dispose of them somehow.

[–]TonyFuckingDanza 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Watch. The. Video.

Read. The. Article.

Yes, yes, and yes.

[–]TheRealRickNasty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Watch. The. Video.

Read. The. Article.

From the WP link you posted:

The Center for Medical Progress, which recorded and edited the video, says the footage proves that Planned Parenthood is breaking the law by selling fetal organs. But the video does not show Nucatola explicitly talking about selling organs. The Planned Parenthood official says the organization is “very, very sensitive” about being perceived as illegally profiting from organ sales and charges only for the cost, for instance, of shipping the tissue.

[–]FeelWhatIFeel 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not really, the mainstream media only turns stories that fit their agenda into national news. Like when a criminal dies at the hands of a cop.

[–]wiseprogressivethink -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I seriously question the credibility of this. If it were true it would be national news.

You don't understand how the establishment media works, do you?

[–]ZandreTheGiant 18ポイント19ポイント  (11子コメント)

I find it far more troubling that people are trying to purchase fetal organs... What on Earth are they doing with them? Cannabalism? Ritualism? Illicit medical research?

[–]Mister_Johnson_ 33ポイント34ポイント  (5子コメント)

Medical research. This way they can say no animals were were tortured...

[–]ZandreTheGiant 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

I don't think so... you would need an enormous supply to test anything worthwhile.

Besides, medical research companies have infinite layers of bureaucracy, it would never get approved up the chain.

[–]WIlf_Brim 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

You use the organs for cells in culture. Since they are fetal/newborn they have a very long life in cell culture.

[–]tehForce 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stem cells abound in the fetus tissue.

[–]passiveegalatarian 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

The actors in the video were pretending to be buyers from a biologics company. It stands to reason other buyers were as well

[–]InterloperKO 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because everyone's like The Dude and abides

[–]the-tominator[🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Usually research. Foreskins from circumcision are used to test skin products, so I guess this is the same kind-of thing.

[–]salacio -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Actually foreskin is used in the creation of some skin care products.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-cut-above-the-rest-wrin/

[–]the-tominator[🍰] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow so it's actually an ingredient, not just for testing? That's gross

[–]salacio -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, foreskins are chopped up to make women's facial care products, but we live in a patriarchy apparently.

[–]totorox -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

All of it and worse.

[–]SidneyBechetLibertarian Conservative 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why is this a conservative thing and not a politics thing? This should be outrageous to both parties!

[–]wiseprogressivethink 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Leftists sort of don't care about harvesting the organs of unborn babies that were killed by a doctor on the orders of the mother.

It's all just about "choice" you see...

[–]motionviewer 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

Trying to discuss this in politics/new , after first having it modded out as being off-topic, then deleted as being from a spam site (LifeNews).

[–]Navihawk11 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Try this one - http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/247873-republicans-seize-on-planned-parenthood-video

They use The Hill a lot over there it seems...

[–]TonyFuckingDanza 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love how biased the headline is. It's never "progressives did this horrible thing". It's always "right wing activists seize on this isolated incident"

[–]bubby963 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'll take things that reddit will pretend didn't happen and downvote to hell if you dare bring it up for $500 Alex. Remember guys - a bunch of reddits revenue was donated to these disgusting people. That's why you should always use adblock.

[–]CaptainPaintball 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

And never give Reddit any revenue

[–]bunksterz 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is Planned Parenthood's response.

Not sure how they can say there isn't any money involved when Nucatola was talking about prices.

Also, here is the full, unedited video if anyone is curious. I skipped around and it was hard to find a point where Nucatola wasn't saying anything at least a little bit incriminating.

[–]mostnormal 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

No money involved for the patient or Planned Parenthood.

[–]SH92 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for posting the full video. Here's where she talks about how this isn't about making the centers money. Later in the video she says:

"Because we're the target, we're not looking or attempting to make money from doing this. Our goal is to keep access available and if we do something to make us a target, and, that just removes access from everybody."

https://youtu.be/H4UjIM9B9KQ?t=55m56s

She understands that this is a sensitive subject because it could be construed as selling organs.

She needs to get rid of the tissue, she has patients who want to donate to research facilities, and the research facilities are willing to pay for all the costs involved in transporting the tissue. Any tissue that isn't taken by the research facility now has to be disposed of by a bio-waste management company.

What I don't know is (and this is using completely made up numbers) if the cost of the procedure is $100, the disposal is $20, and the additional cost of getting whole organs is $30, what percentage of the costs is the research facility paying? If PP doesn't have to pay for the disposal when they donate, anything above $10 make it cheaper for PP. It could be that these research facilities just cost less than the bio-waste management company.

[–]BarneyBent 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The money covers expenses, which is standard for any tissue donation. It's not that difficult to understand.

[–]arglebargle15 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Leftist ghouls.

[–]ocskaGoldwater Conservative 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

For some reason the liveaction link is down. Full video can be found here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1198865/Planned-Parenthood-director-admits-selling-fetus-body-parts.html

[–]GaroldWilsonSnailJr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The cretins involved in this should be locked up for good

[–]yep45Constitutionalist 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

This ought to be in every media outlet for months. But no, we need more stories covering the Confederate Flag

[–]shinypretty 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey now, don't forget the OH SO FUCKING RACIST fleur-de-lis.

[–]Muaddibisme 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

So...

How is using the tissue of a aborted fetus really any different than disposing of the aborted fetus in any other way?

If abortions are going to happen (and they will) shouldn't those organs, stem cells, etc. at least go towards something positive?

I am not supporting anyone in my statements but if I have to choose between abortions where they toss the fetus in the garbage and abortions where the fetus can be used for medical good, the choice is obvious to me.

[–]TonyFuckingDanza 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

So...

You abhor the influence of corporate dollars and lobbyists in every other context, but when it comes to paying actual cash for body parts of unborn babies, you see no conflict of interest whatsoever!

No chance in hell that money could serve as motivation to abort more kids! Organ harvesting companies are just people!

[–]SH92 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are you saying that the clinics would influence people to abort more often? Because I can't imagine girls would willingly get pregnant, wait a couple months, and then abort for $30, even if they were going to get any of the money.

[–]TonyFuckingDanza 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely not. I'm saying when money comes into play, Planned Parenthood goes from a "women's health" organization to a highly motivated promoter of abortions. More abortions equals more money. It becomes in their best interest to push the abortion option on more women who might otherwise choose adoption or parenthood. It's just sleazy to think about and should give anyone pause.

[–]PBXbox 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

One is monstrous and the other is ghoulish. Take your pick.

[–]CaptainPaintball -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because they push for the abortions to take place. And that is different than just collecting hair clippings from a barbershop floor.

If a salon pushed women with long hair to chop off as much of their hair as possible, so the salon can turn around and sell the hair at a big profit, THAT story would be bigger news to the mainstream media.

[–]xXnewbsonlyXx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

they sell the murdered baby, it isn't a donation

[–]jmedk 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I truly do not understand how any one can support this.

[–]UndergroundRayRhodes 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely disgusting. Did she also admit to doing partial birth abortions?

[–]YMDBass 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty lenient in regards to social conservative issues, in fact, I personally consider myself a libertarian but will vote conservative/republican with the right candidate (McCain and Romney were text book definitions of Rinos), that said, this is beyond disgusting. Serious criminal charges need to be levied and these criminals need to be jailed.

[–]I-Downvoted_You 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I almost barfed. I couldn't watch the entire video.

[–]HaveYouUsedGoogle 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Liberal logic: unborn children have no inherent value. Buy one today!

[–]badmesmer 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

How is this story not higher?

[–]gmayer90 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I clicked the link, it said it was down or possibly moved to a different location. A lack of a video will make it hard to be seen.

[–]lifeisgenerallygood 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like a horror film. Made myself watch it, shaking with fright, it's that bad. What is so striking is how nonchalant the director is while describing the methods of harvesting fetal parts by Planned Parenthood.

[–]kansassucks 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

After being on the internet for so long I thought i was desensitized. This made me almost vomit

[–]DranoshSoCon, FinCon, antistatist, anti"equality" 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

2 thousand years ago pagan's practiced baby sacrifice to molech, today that ritual goes on under the guise of "choice" with unknowing participants.

[–]msa001 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty fucked up.

[–]Mr_Dove 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The video was down for me but South Park did an episode about this years ago. Cartman was trying to sell aborted fetuses for stem cell research. I'm sure this video isn't remotely funny though.

[–]Armageddon_It 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fucking downright ghoulish this modern left is. Joseph Mengele would be proud.

[–]flyingburritoman 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh Jesus. This makes my stomach turn.

[–]commonsensehero 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you really think about it, abortion is like America's Holocaust. The cruelty and depravity aren't quite the same, but they aren't far off.

[–]CrimsonYllek 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

In my mind it's more akin to Mayans (or Aztecs? I forget which) making human sacrifices or Spartans disposing of imperfect babies.

[–]mircury 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

After watching the video, this is unfathomable. Just completely crazy.

[–]Homeless_Scrapbooker 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And they still don't see fetuses as humans.

[–]esparza74Paleoconservative 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where is the link?

[–]shodanx -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good, it's the entrepreneurial spirit we need, making use of discarded baby meat.

[–]PurpleAriadne -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't let one women's awful actions destroy the good Planned Parenthood provides. She needs to be brought to trial to face charges.

As far as the grossness of selling baby parts hospitals regularly use the foreskin from circumcision to aid in skin graphs on other patients. If there is a need and these organs can save lives we should set up a legal and ethical way to do so.

[–]Supahflii -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I could be wrong, but the discussion of prices is only about offsetting the storage/transportation involved; however detestable the source, it is legal in this country.