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[–][deleted] 150ポイント151ポイント  (101子コメント)

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I got a troll flair for suggesting that we educate ignorant people instead of acting hostile towards them. It kind of terrifies me that all my comments on the subject got downvoted.

[–]EnterpriseE1701E 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

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This isn't just confined to flair, the community at large hates to have to justify their actions in a political manner. It is irritating to think that any of us should have to educate the bigoted or ignorant, but we should still probably do it for pragmatic benefit. There are a multiplicity of threads in which I point out that educating the ignorant and pragmatism are better strategies to improve the material condition of queer-folk at large, but they prefer to not engage it, going off on privilege, or whatever seems to dismiss an argument without addressing it.

My condolences-- the anti-political nature of this subreddit plays out on more levels than just one...

[–]smischmalshe-wizard 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

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I think that the issue isn't that people object to the idea of educating the ignorant, but to the idea that we should be expected to educate the ignorant. I personally think it's wonderful when people choose to educate people, and I try to help out with that too, but I totally understand that a lot of other people just want to be left to their own devices and not have to explain themselves to every ignorant, pseudo-bigoted jerk-off that comes along.

Note, I haven't dug through t-n-k's comment history, so I'm not certain which they were advocating, but I don't think that that scarlet flair is really all that bad, it all depends on how people will choose to interpret that you "Would like us to educate them".

[–][deleted] 93ポイント94ポイント  (15子コメント)

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Holy fuck, you're not kidding. Never have I seen such passive aggressive moderation... ever.

[–]joeycastilloHealing 47ポイント48ポイント  (3子コメント)

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Make your views known to the moderators. This is a very recent trend, like within the last seven days recent. If the community speaks out, I believe it can be reversed before it goes any further.

[–]SimonSaysPlay 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

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umm... It's the moderators who put that flair on t-n-k's profile!

[–]martymar18The Mythical Flaming Unicorn 24ポイント25ポイント  (9子コメント)

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Silentagony ha been that way since she got called out in Halloween for her tasteless costume.

[–][deleted] 15ポイント16ポイント  (8子コメント)

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Wait, what did I miss? Link?

[–]martymar18The Mythical Flaming Unicorn 29ポイント30ポイント  (5子コメント)

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the picture in question http://imgur.com/LNQmW

the comment backlash http://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/lun8n/happy_halloween_rlgbt_d_boo/

the damage control and butt hurt http://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/m17d1/my_official_statement_on_the_halloween_costume/

i imagine it is only a matter of time before the angry lesbian overlord passes judgement on me as well and i get the scarlet flair. can we call it that?

[–][deleted] 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

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haha, thanks

[–]martymar18The Mythical Flaming Unicorn 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

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no prob

[–][deleted] 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

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OMG! that was horrid! Not only was it insulting and in bad taste it just looked plain BAD!

[–]wutdafxgoinon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Hello, sweetie. :x

I'm with you. Given my impatience with political correctness, ad hominem attacks, and semantics arguments, I should very much like to think it won't be long before Commie Pig gets scrawled in red across my door. The McCarthy reference is particularly fitting, IMO. But the truth is I'm probably too far beneath the mods; attention to pull it off.

[–]seiyonoryuu 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

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i'll do the same thing i did to get kicked out of r/pyongyang

piss off ALL THE MODS!

LGBT MODS SUCK! (literally! :D)

there, that ought to do it

[–]LivipediaSunlight 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Pretty much. I got the same shit about biphobia. There are some wonderful people here, but I'm a little taken aback by the amount of outright immaturity and hostility coming from the mods.

[–]gay13578 19ポイント20ポイント  (49子コメント)

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This is nuts. Then there was this golden comment by one of the mods: http://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/ofy6e/i_bat_for_both_teams_but_sometimes_homosexuals/c3gyxv6

/r/lgbt is a pretty great board, why does this woman have to begin labeling people as she fits? Let the downvotes work as usual, and stick to being a sentient spam filter: it's not your community. It's ours. Normally people just create split reddits when something like this happens, but for a title so standard as LGBT that's just not a possibility.

[–]DuchessofYanks 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

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That's really childish and I'm sorry you have to deal with this. I think I'll be leaving this subreddit until the mods can get their act together.

[–][deleted] 30ポイント31ポイント  (26子コメント)

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Somebody came on here complaining that they couldn't tell their young nephews or cousins (something like that) about their sexuality and explain it to them. She said the OP has no reason to be upset (because the OP's aunts and his ENTIRE FAMILY had shown NO signs of homophobic behavior or thoughts) and should just stop trying to tell everyone about it. Silent Agony came by gave her the red tag, and gave moonflower no further explanation via comments on that thread beyond "Don't troll the OP".

/r/lgbt cares nothing for opinions and only is interested in the hivemind.

[–]moonflower 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

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That's not what I said at all ... I did not say he had no reason to be upset, and I did not say he should stop trying to tell them about it ... here is a link to the thread in question

You have badly misunderstood my comment, just like many others did ... I said that his family were being accepting of him, and he still did not feel accepted, and I suggested that may be because he did not accept his self

He has every right to be upset, and he has every right to tell anyone about it

[–][deleted] 18ポイント19ポイント  (7子コメント)

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Ah, thank you. I thought so.

How sad.

[–]moonflower 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Since this is your discussion I would like to correct what he said because you have been misinformed, so here's a link to the post I just made to him

[–][deleted] 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

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I love a good circlejerk as much as the next guy but it does nothing to further our goals if it's just a shouting match, Us vs. them. It needs to stop being seen that way and needs to be thought of as the collective. At the end of the day we shouldn't be fighting for LGBT rights, We should fight for Human Rights.

[–]Aspel 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

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We shouldn't be fighting for LGBT rights, we should be fighting for Human Rights.

I want to make hot sweaty love to you right now.

[–]Aspel 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Maybe you'd like /r/laidbackqueers better :I

[–]dual-moonA geek, a girl, and trans, respectively. 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

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Hi. I don't really hang out here, I hate this subreddit (and SilentAgony in particular) but I've seen moonflower everywhere. He's probably the best Concern Troll I've ever seen, but after what feels like a year or so of watching him constantly try to subtly derail everything into "trans people are wrong," I can't blame anyone for finally red-tagging that bastard. I don't know anything else about anything.

[–]scoooot 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

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He's probably the best Concern Troll I've ever seen

3/10 at best.

[–]dual-moonA geek, a girl, and trans, respectively. 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

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His dedication has to bump that up to a 6 or so. Then again, 3/10 is still pretty good relatively.

[–]scoooot -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I am nut impressed.

[–][deleted] 13ポイント14ポイント  (9子コメント)

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Think a lot of people don't know the point of holding discussions or arguments. If someone says something stupid, discuss why it's stupid. Don't just insult them and ostracize them.

[–]Tango_Mike_Foxtrot 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Some people live in a world where they have to constantly protect themselves and be proactive in defense of their own actions so when they come to a safe place ( Here for example ) they don't know how to turn that part of their brain off, and assume people are still attacking their way of life when they very obviously are not.

[–]Feuilly 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

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Why is /r/lgbt taking moderation tips from a forum based on Something Awful?

[–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I don't understand anything that the moderators of /r/lgbt do.

[–]rmuserLiterally a teddy bear 13ポイント14ポイント  (9子コメント)

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[–]Lizbeanism 27ポイント28ポイント * (6子コメント)

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Though the comments this user posts are loaded and biased towards a transphobic view they are not overly offensive. This user is merely expressing their opinion in an articulated manner. They may be expressing the wrong opinion and perhaps they are also trying to get a rise out of people, but they aren't what r/lgta should be concerned about because they aren't openly bullying anyone.

Also, attaching the red flair to them has not stopped anyone from replying to what they post and it has not stopped them from posting.

[–]zoolander951 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

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I agree with you, but I don't think you can call an opinion "wrong" per say

[–]Lizbeanism 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I meant wrong from their perspective.

[–]scoooot -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

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But you can call things which are not a matter of opinion wrong, when they are presented as an opinion.

For example, if I were to say, "It is my opinion that down is up.", I would be "wrong".

[–]smischmalshe-wizard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Also, attaching the red flair to them has not stopped anyone from replying to what they post and it has not stopped them from posting.

I think that's kind of the point. Discussion is still able to proceed if one wishes it, but it is there as a warning to the rest of us that they may not be worth the effort. I actually really like that, and I think it is a much better course of action than banning or removing comments (as I've seen on some other subreddits before).

[–]pseudodoxia 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Yeah, I think you went overboard on this one. Scarlet-lettering people qualifies as harassment and bullying.

Maybe you should have just banned him if you were so upset?

[–]outsider -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Looks like the same reasons she has been banned elsewhere.

[–]Amain153 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

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All this rage gives me a sad on the inside. <3

[–]shapterjmThe Pocket Gay! 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

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At least in my topic, moonflower <i>consistently</i> went out of his/her way to troll me and the other people posting in the topic. It's not just that moonflower made unhelpful or opposing-opinion posts, it's that the posts either blatantly ignored previous information (actively ignored, even) and were disrespectful. There's a difference between dissent and disrespect. I haven't seen a single constructive post from moonflower and I wholeheartedly agree with the "concern troll" tag...though at this point I'd say it's more "confirmed" than "concern."

[–]moonflower 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

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If you want to make italics, you use asterisks, *like this* comes out like this

I don't remember our conversation, but if you are saying I ignored ''information'', could it have been that this ''information'' was really only ''opinion''? Could you show me what ''information'' I ignored?

[–]shapterjmThe Pocket Gay! -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

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You're free to look up the exact posts, they were never removed. Your comments were disturbing and I'd rather not revisit them, as I told you after you made (and continued to make) them. No, the information you ignored was not opinion, you specifically disregarded portions of my posts which rendered your subsequent posts unnecessary.

[–]moonflower 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

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I wouldn't know where to look, I can't even remember our conversation ... surely you could link to the general discussion without needing to read it again? I could easily find it from there

[–]shapterjmThe Pocket Gay! -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

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As I said before (in the other thread and previously in this one), I want no more part of a discussion with you. You are perfectly free to look up your previous responses by clicking on your username in the upper right-hand corner of the screen, which will quickly lead you to your comments on my thread.

[–]moonflower -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I don't remember when it was and I have made a lot of comments in the past few days, so if it was more than a few days ago I would have to trawl through pages and pages to find it

[–][deleted] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (24子コメント)

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LGBT is almost as bad as SRS now, god forbid somebody has an opposing opinion.

[–]rmuserLiterally a teddy bear 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

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[–]LikeGoldAndFaceted 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Man, that's some serious ignorant trolling going on here.

[–][deleted] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (10子コメント)

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LGBT is almost as bad as SRS now

fuck yeah. the shitposters (I have you tagged as a transphobe, onetimer ;) are realizing this. run, run like the internet cowards you are.

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

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look at onetimers posting history..an MRA troll.

[–][deleted] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (7子コメント)

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onetimer ought to get benned from /r/lgbt ~

[–][deleted] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I agree.

[–]ButterflySammy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Hey it is nice to see you stopped trolling the other thread to insult someone for being a troll.

[–]RobotAnnaVery Cute, Just Like Miku -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

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you mean as awesome as srs?

i mean it will never be but maybe one day. we can hope.

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Why dont you try looking through their rather long posting history