A lot of what you describe are outside forces complaining about moderation in subs they don't even frequent, not what I'm worried about, which is allowing actual good faith subscribers to hold their own moderation team accountable.

because outside forces are much louder, much more disruptive, and can cause far more problems compared to the good faith subscribers who have the courtesy to reach out to moderators and discuss things civilly.

the outside forces exist, and you can't ignore them. they camp our queues to down vote threads and comments seconds after they're posted, disrupt conversations by making people think they're being massively downvoted by the community for expressing an opinion the community actually agrees with, and generally just being pricks.

That outside pressure from other subs shouldn't even be a thing. There should be extremely low tolerance on that stuff. Which is another reason I proposed banning meta subs. There should be no subs in which you complain about other subs.

never going to happen. for one, that would require a banning of content. the new CEO has already stated they're uninterested in doing so, and there's no way reddit will ban /r/bestof when almost every thread there ends up generating a nice chunk of reddit gold.

secondly, it won't happen because you can't ban outside websites from functioning like meta subs. we've had multiple raids here in ghazi from 8chan, and there's literally nothing we can do about it and the admins don't do jack shit about it other than confirming the raid.

and even if a sub itself isn't a meta sub discussing other subs, nothing is keeping the comments within threads in that sub from fulfilling that function, and moderators removing THOSE comments will face the same witch hunts.

We also need more controls that let people who are truly invested in a sub have more of a voice than people who subscribed yesterday to shitpost. What if mods had an option to set where you had to be subscribed to a sub for X number of days before you could even post? Or an option where you had to be subscribed for X amount of days and post X amount of times before you could even report a post or send a modmail.

I think that sounds an awful lot like features we already have in automod, features which we already have setup here in ghazi, with the exception of modmail and reports (where even shadowbanned users are somehow allowed to spam our modmail).

look, i'm tired of discussing this. we disagree, we don't see eye to eye on why pure, ultimate transparency is a problem when your'e dealing with shitholes who have absolutely no problem wasting months of their time just to stalk someone over their choice of smartphone, let alone for being a feminist.

we'll just wait and see whatever the CEO decides to do and how easily it's abused.