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[–]The_BeardedGentleman 24ポイント25ポイント  (3子コメント)

Women will do anything to get their kids on their side and away from the father. Both my sister and I ended up staying with our dad, which came as a shock to my mom, when they split up. My sister was on the verge of literally killing my dad after my mom told me he let his friend rape her. She couldn't keep any of her bullshit stories together though, and had too many of them to hold water. She was just throwing crazy shit at her kids seeing what stuck and rolling with it, in a desperate attempt to turn us on our father who had the gall to move on and be happy after she divorced him. My sister, rightfully so, hates her now.

[–]MattyAnon 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

My sister, rightfully so, hates her now.

Consequences at last. But how is she going to blame men for your sister hating her? Oh wait... there was a man at the conception. Got it.

[–]The_BeardedGentleman 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh shes "just like my father".

[–]TheDialecticParadox 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean if your mum at least put some effort into destroying your father's reputation, then maybe she wouldn't be 'just like her dad'.

Do women even care about having custody of the kids? Or is it simply the motivation to destroy the ex-husband that makes them try and have custody of the kids?

I vote the latter.

[–]Harry_Teak 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

Let us not downplay this woman's accomplishment: she managed to behave in such a crazed manner that she alienated a female divorce court judge with her antics. Let that sink in a bit.

That's some next-level fucked up that is.

[–]MattyAnon 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Female judge is probably more likely to see through the shit. Also more likely to side with it.

[–]Derbi50 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very true. An elder male judge would be all, "there there dear, he can't hurt you anymore."

A hard boiled worldly female judge would be like, "bitch I see through you like a sneeze gaurd on a buffet of bullshit."

[–]mgosiris 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does anyone have personal industry experience that can say a female or male judge would be better in a divorce case that ends in favor of the male divorcee?

[–]Endorsed Contributordr_warlock 52ポイント53ポイント  (27子コメント)

The Divorce Corp video I listed in my video compilation post will show you that lawyers admit to encouraging their clients to make many false accusations against the father and husband. In this way, the father has to disprove each claim, while in the process expending more time and money and looking like the bad guy each step of the way. You could run out of money just by having to deflect false accusations.

Female Lawyer: ~ "I can make a man look like scum in no time"

[–]ramaga 23ポイント24ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm a former divorce lawyer, and I occasionally had cases against this woman named Jane (not her real name, btw) whose MO was to file for divorce and the same day file a domestic violence case against the husband to try to get him out of the house and pay all the bills while he was out of it. The domestic violence cases were always bogus, and as soon as I saw Jane's name on pleadings I knew the violence allegations would be following shortly.

On a side note, Jane is the only woman I have ever met I would describe as a certifiable man-hater. If you had a penis you were automatically a scumbag. She only represented women, of course. The funny thing was Jane was the one who was the scumbag. With most attorneys I dealt with, if you talked about something and agreed on it, you could take it to the bank. With Jane if you thought you arrived at some sort of agreement with her, you had to put it in writing and confirm via certified mail, messenger, etc. that she actually got what you wrote, otherwise she would later say "We never agreed to anything" or "We agreed to the exact opposite of what Ramaga is saying, Judge." Ugh.

In addition to being dishonest and man-hating, she was also pretty stupid. It wasn't that hard to go up against her as she was inept, but cases against her were way more expensive than they needed to be because she was always making frivolous allegations wasting time and driving her bill up. Once they got to know her, judges hated her too.

She was a real piece of work. When I think of why I'm glad to no longer be practicing, I think of people like her.

[–]WilliamBott 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why don't the judges sanction her? Courts frequently do that for lawyers that continually file frivolous and bogus claims.

[–]ramaga 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

She was verbally reprimanded several times by different judges from the bench, but never formally sanctioned so far as I am aware.

[–]SexistFlyingPig 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I made a comment to my ex-wife's lawyer (another woman). It was something to the effect of "Every time you get involved with a negotiation, your client is worse because of it. The final agreement for parenting time in the divorce is WORSE [for my ex] than my original offer. Maybe you should do better at advising your client, and not be so combative."

(and yes, there were unfounded allegations of implied domestic abuse... on facebook no less.)

[–]Special Olympianmakethemsayayy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can I bash her teeth into her brain?

[–]randomuserwot 3ポイント4ポイント  (19子コメント)

What I've been wondering about is how it is in other places like Germany, Austria etc. ? I know it's bad in the US and in the UK, but don't really know whether this extreme, based on feminist views kind of legislation applies to other countries as well?

[–]Suravira 12ポイント13ポイント  (18子コメント)

It's horrible in the EU, as it's practically the same as UK but worse.

[–]tehwankingwalruses 2ポイント3ポイント  (17子コメント)

The EU isn't one body of laws regarding marriage. Germany's laws for instance are fairly sane compared to the US laws.

[–]ferengiprophet 3ポイント4ポイント  (16子コメント)

Why are German birth rates low then? A lot of us in the US aren't having kids because of predatory divorce laws and a promiscuous culture which has unleashed hypergamy.

[–]tehwankingwalruses 8ポイント9ポイント  (15子コメント)

I'd say it is a few reasons. Germans tend to take like 5-7 years to get a Bachelors since education is free. They also tend to go for masters. So that puts most people starting their careers in their late 20s, early 30s.

In the larger cities, housing is really expensive and real estate very small. So in addition to the large cost of a kid in general, now you are adding in even more for a flat big enough for a family. The tax relief and other incentives don't really mitigate that burden much.

Lastly women here are career driven and bossy as fuck in my experience. Most men I know are pretty whimpy and beta. I've been told time and time again that women will give a man all the hints she wants him to approach her and they just don't get it, where the American and English guys pick up right away.

I'd say hypergamy is much less of an issue here because salaries tend to be in a pretty narrow band, so society is much more equal. You don't get as wide of disparities as you do in the US.

[–]MattyAnon 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

I've been told time and time again that women will give a man all the hints she wants him to approach her and they just don't get it, where the American and English guys pick up right away.

Be skeptical of this.

"I gave him all the hints" .... gave WHO all the hints? A shy beta or a hot alpha with better options? Either way, nothing is going to happen.

This is just another stick to beat men with. Paraphrased slightly: "I batted my eyelashes, and the stupid man didn't do exactly what I wanted when I wanted him to do it, stupid weak men". That's what they want you to infer. The reality doesn't quite match up.

[–]tehwankingwalruses 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think you bring up a good point, but a lot of German dudes just don't have a clue. Of course my experience is just that, anecdotal. In fairness to the German bros, the women can be just as clueless on social interaction as too. The German stereotype of frigidness and direct kind of comes in here.

I think the beta behavior in men kind of stems from a larger masculinity shaming going on. Germany still carries a huge weight around its neck from the world wars and the holocaust. A lot of people still feel shame even when they were born a half a century afterwards. National pride, controversial opinions and politics, and "acting out" are seen as very controversial and a bugaboo of Nazism. Compared to the US, it seems no one ever has the big confrontations at bars. I was at a club one time and this Irish guy was just looking for a fight and dudes were apologizing to him for whatever they did to upset him. In the US, it would be a scrap in no time.

[–]kazaul 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can attest this from my experience with German men (and women) who are good friends of mine. Also to a similar but different extent with the Swiss (where I live). Aside from a very, very, select few cases I do not have the feeling that folk around here are even remotely aware of social cues. And if they are aware many will have no clue how to deal. Exceptions exist in equal measure, of course, but they are few and far between amongst those of local heritage.

Can also attest to people backing down (again this isn't Germany but it's similar enough in my experience). I'm a pretty pathetic person from a physical standpoint but I can get virtually anyone except foreigners to back away from a confrontation with no fear of backlash. The mere thought I might stand my ground scares most guys and the few who have pushed farther (in verbal altercations) are amazed I won't just apologize and squirm.

Furthermore, the concept of 'traditional relationships' is very much alive at least in my generation. Few of my cousins back home are considering anything of the sorts, whereas people the same age here are actively seeking to build some semblance of a family unit. It's quite mind-boggling to me but that is the culture. It really is nothing like the US.

[–]randomuserwot 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

While this is mostly true, some parts of Germany do have some roughnecks. Mainly Frankfurt am Main (Nordweststadt, Höchst), parts of Berlin, Ruhrpott, Hannover (Linden).

[–]pink_and_yellow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nordweststadt is mainly immigrants and poor people though, as are certain parts of Berlin and the ruhrpott. That doesn't say a whole lot about german culture. You can always find extremes in the ghetto.

[–]tehwankingwalruses 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I keep mostly to Bavaria myself which I know isn't quite Germany, like Texas isn't quite the US haha.

[–]metakek 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Quoting myself:

It's because we scandinavians have internalized flirting as sexual harassment. I'm not joking. I thought it was only me for a while but I now realized I've never actually heard a dude compliment a girl when I grew up. We were given the "so you only like her for her body" shtick - and now it makes me uncomfortable to try to flirt, as if I'm what I'm doing is wrong.

because no one flirts in certain European countries and there's abundance of hot girls, so they don't really feel special.

In my country, no one hits on girls outside the bar scene and not before downing two or three beers. Daytime flirting does not exist, it's simply not a thing. On top of that, men here are quite timid - not effeminate, quite masculine in fact, but their behaviour is so inhibited - I assume a lot of it is because of feminism - hell, when I grew up the idea of complimenting a girl makes me anxious because I'm scared she'll get offended. (Yes, I genuinely think a girl will be offended if I compliment her.)

So you've got a country where men have internalized flirting as being disrespectful and borderline sexual harassment, and literally got half a country's population starved for attention regardless of how attractive they are.

That last sentence means that assertive foreigners can clean up pussy here so easily.

My country is often scoffed at as being extremely affected by feminism, but if anything that only make the behaviour described in TRP more pronounced and obvious. Men here have given up on the idea of a family and marriage, you can't assume your woman isn't looking for the next phallus during her yearly vacation to southern Europe.

[–]tehwankingwalruses 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea I think you put it in a way that I fell short on. Especially this line resonates with my friends.

In my country, no one hits on girls outside the bar scene and not before downing two or three beers.

Day game is like unheard of here. Although people that practice it usually do well. I have a former colleague who picked up his girlfriend outside a bookstore. People hear the story and are like, that actually happens!?

[–]raven2000 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Also, as I've said in another thread... all of the above coupled with a German cultural dislike of kids (unlike our cultural worship of kids in the States), leads to a lot of childless couples.

[–]tehwankingwalruses 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh hell, I completely forgot about that. Germans hate everything though haha. Kids, dogs, old people, people on bikes, people not on bikes, jews.

[–]darkrood 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jeez, Mountain dew's new logo "hilter did nothing wrong" would've been a hit in Germany then.

Jk, Asians ppl dealt with jews often leave bad taste as well. Jews are only annoying because of some of the annoying jews.

[–]raven2000 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that's all pretty much true. LOL.

[–]Derbi50 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also don't the greens have a pretty strong following in Germany? The most environmentally responsible thing someone can do is have as few children as possible.

[–]tehwankingwalruses 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is a big green movement in Germany, but I've never heard that related to children. At least personally.

[–]redditmoose 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm actually noticing a trend that anywhere the men are beaten into submission as a culture, birth rates drop. Asia is a perfect example.

[–]Suravira 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

Some women are alright in typical male fields of work, affirmative action is the problem.

[–]Meglomaniac 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think the problem isnt opening up the door for women that deserve it, but instead the lowering of standards to make it so women can open the door.

If a woman cant do the basic requirements for the job, she shouldnt have an easier time simply because she has a vagina.

[–]OneRedYear 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

affirmative action is not the problem. lowering standards and hiring people who are not qualified to fill quotas is the problem. Before affirmative action those minorities/women who were qualified wouldn't even be considered for the job. That's not a meritocracy, that's just discrimination.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

She's trying to paint the picture of perfect mother rather than a scheming and conniving person that she is.

To society (and white knights generally,) it's axiomatic that women cannot be a conniving or evil person.

[–]1CleverNeologism 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women are Wonderful, after all.

[–]herewehoagain 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Your girlfriend is most afraid of your mother. Because your mother knows all of her tricks, employs them on your father, and will be god damned if she let's that little cunt do the same thing to her son."

[–]GentSir 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

First time posting here.

I spent a month in Children's Village H Building when I was 16, where all low risk minors go. It's pretty much just dormitory living. No forced work, pretty much all free time. No shackles or cuffs, aside from the fact you can't walk out the front door alone it doesn't feel like a jail at all.

[–]tracker2208 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Better article on the situation: [Exclusive Interview: Dad Whose Kids Were ‘Locked Up for Not Having Lunch With Him’

Hint: That's not really what happened (Another hint: divorce hurts like hell)](https://archive.is/s9nc7)

[–]fourbet 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The comments on that article are unreal.

The case seems very complicated but from reading as many sources as I can it appears the Wife willingly moved back to Israel with the kids (as both her and the ex-husband are originally from there and both extended families still live there). She then basically kidnapped the kids and moved back to the U.S. without notifying him.

The Father then decides it's OK, and he will just make regular trips to the U.S. to visit his kids. The mother prevents him from access, so he takes her to court. She loses numerous cases/appeals and it's decided whenever he visits the U.S. she has to let the kids have time with him. She still refuses him access, so they go to court again.

Apparently the kids are ridiculous snarky/rude to the Judge and court proceedings, and she sends them to reformatory.

Kind of sad all around.

[–]da-way 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lessons learned: Woman are bitter and dirty fighters. They'll pull out all stops to ruin your life and turn your children against you. They'll smear you to their friends, family, and even the media to get what they want. Stand your ground, be patient, and have a damn good lawyer.

Here is a short post i wrote on the subject a while back that might shed some light on why women fight the way they do in divorce.

[–]TRPApprentice 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's an idea for the RP bros: do NOT ever fucking get married unless you wanna be ass raped by Americas dumbass custody laws

[–]GreatWhiteSun 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Now when you say AWALT, do you mean 100% or more like 95%? 99%? Obviously AWALT can't exist since the judge wasn't like that. Seriously question.

[–]Hank711 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The judge would be like that if she was put in a position in which she felt she had to fight dirty. AWALT is about the way women think. It's like how not all women cheat (for a lot of reasons), but they're all hypergamous, view love as about the feels, and would cheat under a similar structure of incentives, even though the relative amount of desire/consequence before they would varies.

[–]SexistFlyingPig -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

Thinking through the judge's decision to send them to juvi: The judge knows that the woman is a constant negative poisoning influence, and she also knows that the ONLY way to get the kids out from under her is to physically remove them from her presence. The mom isn't even allowed to go visit them.

That seems really harsh. Not allowing a mom to see her kids is the kind of thing that ends up on the news with people splattered with blood and shotgun shells everywhere. There must have been a really good reason for it. I'm thinking that the judge knows EXACTLY what's going on here, and is doing what she can to give these kids a chance to not be the most fucked up kids on the planet.

[–]peladan 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Seriously? Taking a bunch of kids, one as young as nine, from their home, family, school and friends, and detaining them in a facility with offenders and victims of severe abuse is the best solution to deal with a mother who is badmouthing the father?

Your appeal to authority ("she's a judge, she must know what's best!") is so gross. I thank God most people do not think like you and are rightly outraged at this case.

[–]SexistFlyingPig 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think it went FAR beyond 'badmouthing the father'. I'd say she was probably a manipulative, controlling woman who was trying to get her kids to believe lies, and then repeat those lies in court.

Mere speculation, but judges don't do stuff like this lightly.

[–]peladan -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Again, you're just speculating based on an appeal to authority. In the light of which subreddit you are on, your apparent reverence for the wisdom of family court judges is amusing.

Even if all of these personal attacks on the mother are true, none of it justifies punishing the kids by stripping them of family, school, friends and their mother, and sending them off to live with a bunch of juvenile offenders and badly damaged kids. Sounds like a recipe for PTSD to me and a lifetime of hating their dad.

[–]SexistFlyingPig 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think the whole point of getting them out from under mom is so that she couldn't continue to emotionally abuse and manipulate them. I don't think they were going to some beat-the-shit-out-of-you juvenile home. Another redditor posted that he had spent time at the Children's Village, and it wasn't really different than living in a dorm, except that you couldn't leave unsupervised. His comments probably informed a big piece of my view of this situation.

I think the kids were sent to this place specifically so that they WOULDN'T grow up with a lifetime of hate against their dad.

[–]peladan 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If I had been taken away from my mom, school and friends for up to nine years as a kid, I'm pretty sure I would have FREAKED THE FUCK OUT, even if I were sent to live in the Hilton.

One thing that really struck me about the judge is the way she specifically accentuated that the kids could not expect a soft bed or bathroom privacy at the home. Only a sicko would emphasize something like that to a 9 year old. And the comparisons to Charles Manson? Seriously? We have way more documentary evidence that the judge is unhinged than the mother.

If mom is really as bad as you suggest, then surely the judge is a craven coward for reversing her original ruling. She's already caved in after holding an emergency session: mom's going to be able to see the kids and they're going to summer camp instead of the home for damaged kids.

[–]just_noob_things 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

that's something that got my attention - i didn't have bathroom privacy at home. That sort of 'no boundaries' crap can screw someone up for a while.

[–]waynebradysworld[🍰] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mark honeyman sounds like a baby back bitch