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[–]FSMhelpusall 10ポイント11ポイント  (17子コメント)

Nice false comparison.

Their side do it on Guardian, CNN, BBC, Vice, Vox... what do ours do?

[–]zaphas 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you're using those as an example of left-wing sites, right-wing sites also use very sketchy "journalism". Example: I love Allum and Milo at Breitbart, but this is from one of Andrew Breitbart's other websites:

https://archive.is/twOQt

So, we have here a clickbait title. ONLY 19%!? REALLY WHAT HOW??? click. Some not-so-veiled references to Obama destroying the country along with his army of Christian Hating Democrats later, what we have here is a short piece, easily written, maybe taking about 15 minutes, designed to be spammed and shared on Facebook getting a solid chunk of ad-revenue from clicks from those who have an obsessive need to feel persecuted, in this case, the Christian far right, who share great similarities to SJWs in that regard.

Now, of course, if we follow the source, linked here: http://www.newseuminstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/FAC_SOFA15_report.pdf

it doesn't take long to realize that 19% is actually fairly constant over the years that this survey has been running. Slightly lower than some years, and slightly higher than others, which obviously means that Obama had nothing to do with this number being so low, it's just that Americans dating back to at least 1997 obviously give zero fucks about being intelligent regarding our rights that are guaranteed by the First and other Amendments.

Interestingly enough, if you continue further down the study, there's a nice little graph that shows Americans' confidence in the news media to report stories without bias, and I think we all know which direction that's heading.

Anyway, long rant aside, nearly every news media outlet is guilty of yellow journalism, because sensationalism = clicks = money.

[–]BasediCloud -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

it's just that Americans dating back to at least 1997 obviously give zero fucks about being intelligent regarding our rights that are guaranteed by the First and other Amendments.

When do you think the left took over the education system?

[–]zaphas 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

It never did, imo*. Teachers from every part of the country have their own political leanings, and so on and so forth. An average kid from backwoods Mississippi will likely be just as civically ignorant than an average kid from suburban Massachusetts. And remember, George W. Bush was the one who instituted No Child Left Behind, which was an incredibly poor policy that attempted to benefit the least skilled students at the expense of stifling exceptionalism by focusing on teaching kids to pass the test, instead of teaching kids normally and actually testing their capability to learn and grow.

*caveat: College/University academia is actually very liberal at the moment, but I suspect that's just because the more education someone has, the more likely they are to be liberal, and professors usually end up with a lot of education under their belt. Still, it's not surprising that certain professions in the United States are left leaning. Churches are incredibly right leaning, as is the military. I don't think any of those is a grand conspiracy.

[–]Earl_of_sandwiches 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Replace "education" with indoctrination. The left-leaning disciplines are almost all humanities garbage - and I'm both left-leaning and a former humanities major.

[–]zaphas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fair enough lol. And you're correct, you'll get a lot more leftist stuff (I'm also left leaning), in humanities, poli sci, law, etc than you will in, say, a STEM field.

[–]Meowsticgoesnya0018-1877-0794 3DS Friend code, remember to give me yours 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

Let's be honest, Breitbart gets a whole shit ton of clicks from GG.

[–]mscomies 10ポイント11ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yeah, but Breitbart is pretty alone there. It's not like Fox News, the National Review, or any other right wing publications jumped on the pro-GG bandwagon.

Meanwhile, it'll probably be easier to name the left-leaning publications that haven't demonized GG.

[–]zaphas 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Realistically, GG isn't really "big" enough for most right wing publications to care. They've got Obama, Christians, Tea Party, and all that goofy shiz to focus on, because religious people are a lot more crazy than we are, and a lot more inclined to believe sourceless bullshit on the internet. Those publications are engaged in yellow journalism of their own, demonizing liberals and atheists and whatnot, whipping the frenzy towards them, and of course, reaping the controversial clicks.

[–]mscomies 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes, the right does stir up crazy shit about Obama's birth certificate, Jade Helm, gay marriage, and all sorts of other dumb things. But that's not relevant to gamergate or to the feminazi/shitlord debate. What matters is that the feminazis have captured the liberal media while the shitlords barely have any media publications speaking for them at all.

[–]zaphas 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Funny, ain't it? We're so important as a scarecrow for liberal media, demonizing us goes mainstream. But to conservative media, video games barely even register on the radar, much less a subset of video game culture.

[–]VidiotGamerTrigger Warning: Misogynerd 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You got this backwards. GamerGate didn't cause the media's agenda, it's just being used as more evidence for an already existing agenda.

That's really the only reason why it gets mentioned - it's because they can spin it to reinforce an argument they've been making for at least a couple of years.

[–]Inuma 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What?

The Federalist is doing the same thing by producing outrage and blaming "The Left" when there's other explanations for their arguments.

[–]Meowsticgoesnya0018-1877-0794 3DS Friend code, remember to give me yours 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Slate has been pretty good for GG. And that TechCrunch site had allowed its writers to express their different views on it.

[–]mscomies 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Breitbart, Slate, and TechCrunch's audience sizes combined are nothing compared to that of the Guardian, the BBC, the Colbert Show, and everyone else who pushed anti-GG hitpieces.

[–]Meowsticgoesnya0018-1877-0794 3DS Friend code, remember to give me yours 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Colbert Report isn't even news, any one expecting them to fact check stories is silly.

And the BBC has proven time and time again they just don't understand the Internet in general, the main site to complain about is the Guardian.

[–]redgoldblue[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

thats my argument. the artificial outrage that the yellow journalist peddle causes people to attack whoever the 'bad guy' is. the falsely acused badguy is then forced to defend himself from the crazy media frenzy that results.

[–]Damascene_2014 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm down with your point OP. It's right in line with Bill Clinton saying toxic identity politics are the biggest danger these days. Media is tearing the country apart by only providing the most hyperbolic one sided stories designed to provoke and enrage and you can find this on the left and the right media. We're obviously in a new damaging era of yellow journalism but it isn't widely regarded as the threat it is because people are busy swilling up the outrage message that caters to their demographic.

If media focused on what brought people together rather than tearing them apart we might get somewhere but unfortunately that doesn't sell as many clicks so I don't know how to solve this problem but I do agree it exists. Even if we help get the more egregious offenders shut down such as Gawker, due to human psychology clickbait outrage will still make money and new ones can rise to take its place.

[–]Inuma 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

FINALLY! Someone gets it! (At least partially...)

[–]nodeworx 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree with the basic statement, but the difference is that we are aware of it.

We are the victim very obviously because of the way we are being smeared.

SJWs are the victim because they are being used as much as we are, but don't even realize that in the quest for clicks they are just one more tool to be discarded when it becomes blunt.

Our job is to dull the tool the sjws present as quick as possible.

Fortunately we are being aided in that by the most prominent sjws themselves. Just look at how McIntosh and Sarkeesian have been squandering their legitimacy lately. The process has already started. The less they are believed the more rabidly crazy their statements become and the less effective they become as clickbait material.

The easier these people can be dismissed the less valuable they are for the clickbait mongers.

[–]Paitryn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kinda already knew everyone is secretly in it for the money.

[–]mscomies 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The media have zero responsibility for the crazed SJW rantings that we're seeing on twitter and tumblr. It's not like they're the ones pushing the #killallmen hashtag.

[–]EliteFourScott 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The so-called "Feminazis", by which I'm going to assume you mean aggressive identity politics zealots, are NOT victims. They revel in this. They are misanthropes and sociopaths and anti-intellectuals. They are yellow journalism's allies and enablers. They deserve zero sympathy, only scorn and contempt.

[–]GOU_NoMoreMrNiceGuy -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Heee heeeeee heeeeee hee

That's why we have to burn it all down.

Heeeee hee heeee

[–]SPARTAN_TOASTER 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We already know this! why do you think unverified tags are here? unverified tags show up on most information that has no source no matter how much we wish it we're true.

GG isn't here to make journalists care about their job, it's here to make them do their job properly! If they get five dollars for telling me truthfully that the old bridge in neighborhood has been torn down fine, if I see they lied then I've been robbed and am going to get justice.

[–]mnemosyne-0000#BotYourShield 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I am Mnemosyne, goddess of memory. I remember so you don't have to.

[–]mnemosyne-0000#BotYourShield 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[–]AlseidesDD 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Infuriating, isn't it?

When the emotionally vulnerable people you care for are used against you.

You want fight them, but they dress you up as the monster and you have no choice but to fend off the others being tricked into attacking you.

Lost a lot of friends who have been told their problems and struggles are caused by something else. They've been given an easy way to 'fight' for something that they feel strongly about, but it's all ineffectual slacktivism. I try to point it out but I get bunched in with the 'root of the evil' and several years of friendship can blow up in smoke due to media manufacturing a world of negativity.

[–]Anonymoose15 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They aren't in touch with the "vidya" community because it is unbelievably small and made up of retards who say "vidya"