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[–]Cersad 48ポイント49ポイント  (42子コメント)

/r/KotakuInAction overlaps with /r/MensRights. No overlaps with a gaming sub. For some reason this is utterly not surprising.

[–]hs122 49ポイント50ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm a little more surprised /r/kotakuinaction doesn't overlap with /r/TumblrInAction.

[–]DataLoreThrowaway 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm even more surprised that SubredditDrama and ShitRedditSays weren't included on here. I'd love to see if they overlap significantly with JustNeckbeardThings and the assorted CircleJerk subreddits.

[–]hs122 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They might. I know I see plenty of Justneckbeardthings posts on SRD. The internet makes plenty of strange bedfellows.

[–]_OneManArmy_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they were included people would be getting shadowbanned left and right.

[–]Jiecut 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think he removed things with too many connections. (/r/Iama /r/askreddit)

[–]DataLoreThrowaway 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd still like to see just a single graph with only the aforementioned subreddits.

Too many connections would imply that they are practically everywhere.

[–]Jiecut 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's an example for /r/movies posted by OP.

https://i.imgur.com/G7FiZWO.png

It's possibly that a lot of people post in those subreddits. If >10% of all subreddit users post in that subreddit than there isn't really any point having them on the list.

[–]rupertbayern 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can anyone explain how OP got this data? Pcmasterrace isnt even on this list. OP definitely fucked up somewhere

[–]isit2003 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It likely wasn't included due to its reputation as being a circle jerk, regardless of true discussion or not.

[–]Jiecut 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/pcmasterrace might have too many connections.

[–]k10forgotten 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, they have created other small gaming subs, but w/e.

[–]lasershurt 15ポイント16ポイント  (14子コメント)

In recent threads, KIA has begun to admit it's not really about gaming, but about fighting "SJWs" as a whole. It's not surprising to see the overlap.

[–]DataLoreThrowaway 14ポイント15ポイント  (8子コメント)

More like people create separate accounts for KiA and their real gaming discussions for fear of doxxing.

That's what I did.

[–]pyx 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the real reason.

[–]AllGoodNamesAre7aken -3ポイント-2ポイント  (6子コメント)

I find it very hypocritical that you whine about being the victims of doxxing and harassment when KiA as a community has never made any effort to stop or even criticise their own harassment against other people. Not even when Anita appeared in John Oliver's show as one of the biggest examples of online harassment - the posts in KiA where even saying she's better off being harassed because she's made so much money because of it.

It's amazing how much you guys play the victim card when it's supposedly one of the things you hate the most about SJWs

[–]DataLoreThrowaway 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

KiA as a community has never made any effort to stop or even criticise their own harassment against other people.

HAHAHAHA okay.

https://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2ks2e6/psa_its_gamergate_harassment_patrol_and_its_only/

https://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2l8io4/ive_created_a_gamergate_harassment_patrol/

https://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2ke6q3/gamergate_harrassment_patrol_doing_a_great_job/

Yeah, but nooooo, Gamergate never even tries. Certainly not when they offered to find/turn in anyone who doxxed and harassed people online. Certainly not when they created the harassment patrol. Nooope, no trying there.

the posts in KiA where even saying she's better off being harassed because she's made so much money because of it.

Mmm, yes, those wonderfully fictitious posts. Unless you'd prefer to link them.

It's amazing how much you guys play the victim card

No, because see, we actually take steps to avoid being the victim. Like creating accounts specifically for Gamergate. We avoid the issue altogether.

[–]AllGoodNamesAre7aken -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mmm, yes, those wonderfully fictitious posts. Unless you'd prefer to link them.

np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3aopoy/john_oliver_talks_about_online_harassment_some_of/?ref=search_posts

Just from this single post:

John talks briefly about Antia and Brianna, and I find it interesting that people on the outside still believe them. I mean, he pulled footage from one of the most down voted youtube videos.

I've got mixed feelings on this. All I can say is the fact it's insulting that they grouped in professional victims with real victims of harassment. Ignoring the shit about Lw2 to LWu, it's not bad.

It's not good knowing he didn't do the research and put 2 borderline con artists as examples of online harassment that pulls into question whether or not he bothered to extensively research the rest of the claims.

Aaaand there goes all respect I had for John. To take an actual, serious issue and bring out two clowns who say stupid things on the internet as examples? Fuck off.

All of them denying that Anita and the other woman where harassed, calling them "Profesional victims", con artists, and liars.

If you really cared about harassment you'd at least accept that it exist , not link to a couple antiharassment posts while simultaneously denying that it happened to these two women.

[–]randdomusername 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where is the comments saying she should be harassed?

You proved your point by changing your point, good job moving the goalposts!

They don't deny that harassment exists, they just doubt that the ones Anita and so on receive is as bad as they say. They do exaggerate it to get patreon money. Not really an evil thing to doubt harrasment claims

[–]PadaV4 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea right. Those evil gamergoobers.

[–]t0liman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

KiA as a community has never made any effort to stop or even criticise their own harassment against other people

citation needed. they have, it's been documented. on places other than reddit of course, and also on reddit. do a search, find out more.

strangely enough, i too think that people create alt accounts to harass, but it's fairly trivial, and yet, it doesn't happen as much as statistics would account for.

people do emotionally imagine the worst, and yet, nothing happens there. or elsewhere.

given the size of KiA, KiA has about 40k subs and 50K views on a regular basis per day, which is not indicative of the subscriber base. a lot of people, gawk.

If 1% of KiA were sending a harassing text, even once a month, it would be notable to have 300+ people gathering on any twitter issue or hashtag or harassing people directly or indirectly. and it's not prevalent. it's barely a blip.

in contrast, if 1% of opposing sites to KiA were trolling, given their size, it would match up with the numbers of regular trolls on twitter or tumblr.

if you go back the 4 months, you'd see a lot of posts on the topic were covered when Anita met colbert, and had her smirk moment on camera with her bodyguards on ABC, had her picture taken with a lot of celebrities,

and later, Law and Order SVU got involved with GG. and suddenly, it's not so funny anymore.

[–]selxxa -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

As an early GamerGate supporter/follower, KIA is just embarrassing. They're mirror images of what they despise.

[–]infamous-spaceman 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Don't put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That's why they're called revolutions" -Terry Pratchet

[–]belieeeve -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh hai there, get rekt

Last analysis of overlapping KiA users had it as:-

Subreddit Overlapping users
/r/TumblrInAction 1511
/r/Games 1323
/r/pcmasterrace 975
/r/4chan 756
/r/SubredditDrama 731

Graze on that Pao shill.

Mensrights overlaps with KiA, it's not reciprocated (as shown by no double arrowheads).