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DiscussionThoughts for Thursday, 09 July 2015 (self.badhistory)

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[–]TaylorS1986Odin Was A Turkish Chieftain 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm reading a book on the Vikings and TIL that the infamous Blood Eagle is a myth derived from later saga writers misunderstanding an skaldic poem that said "the eagle cut King Ælla's back" (that is, that eagles munched on his corpse on the battlefield) as "the eagle was cut into King Ælla's back".

[–]chocolatepotChanel was the woooorst 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did you get into a fight with somebody recently? I can't help but notice that your comments are always downvoted to zero.

[–]websterandy42Sources? Just prax it out. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someones getting shadowbanned if they keep it up.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't take the story of a berserker waving an enemy leader around like a flag on his glaive away from me too.

[–]R_B_KazenzakisKra! I speak for the Downworlders 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Up yours robot

I read that article on climate change in /r/TrueReddit and now I am feeling unbelievably depressed. What a way to start this weekend.

Going on a Go-Ruck 5K on Saturday.

[–]jaguarlyra 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

My Mom is coming to visit me!! :D

[–]BreaksFullFrench resistance? Not worth beans I say! 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

If badhistory wasn't bad enough working nights at Walmart cleaning toilets really is driving me towards ascension.

[–]WorldOneWonAlexander the Great Didn't Real 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Saw Ted 2 last night. Went in thinking it was going to be between "meh" and "OK". Holy shit, it was even better than the first one.

[–]pittfan46 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

It was one of those movie where you paid for the ticket knowing exactly what you were gonna get. And you got exactly what you wanted. A live action family guy type movie.

[–]WorldOneWonAlexander the Great Didn't Real 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

True, but being a sequel I wasn't expecting too much. Especially with a movie like Ted

[–]arminius_sawMOD ABOOBS 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I hate Family Guy, though. I try not to get too worked up at Seth MacFarlane because he's clearly a very talented guy, but man is his humour ever not for me. I saw A Million Ways to Die in the West and I think I maybe laughed twice, it was a pretty terrible movie.

[–]pittfan46 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well to each his own. Just know what you should expect when you go to the movies.

[–]pittfan46 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

My thoughts for Thursday:

I've worked all week alone. So there's that. Work til 5pm today, hopefully not alone. I need to try and get some things done for city year before registration. That includes a tb test and physical. I need to plan to move out of my apartment.

My parents want me to go to Wisconsin with them for a weekend. They'd stop in Pittsburgh and stay a night then I'd go with them. I think I'll go.

So the Irish player left /r/HistoricalWorldPowers. Pretty sure the central Asian players will leave too. They haven't posted in a while. Same with south america. Also northern europe may become lonely again. So if anyone wants to join pls join. The time spent isn't too bad if you reddit regularly.

I started playing LoL and I suck. :(

Sooo onto real stuff. The Chinese economy crashed. That may be slightly more major than Greece defaulting, thoughts? My brother seemed worried.

My favorite sub is quickly becoming /r/bestofoutrageculture. It's freaking amazing.

I participated in the badhistory census!

How's everyone else doing?

[–]websterandy42Sources? Just prax it out. 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

My favorite sub is quickly becoming /r/bestofoutrageculture[2] . It's freaking amazing.

I got told not to long ago that I was an SJW for going there.

[–]GeneticDaemonBerzerker of Abraham LinKhorne 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well since /r/badhistory is part of the fempire and full of SJWs, it's too late for you (and us in general) anyways

[–]dancesontrainsVictor Von Doom is the Writer of History 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Join ussss

[–]DirishVeni, Vidi, Predatori 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably by the same people who will call you a SJW for posting here, so you're already contaminated in their eyes anyway.

[–]pittfan46 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The war analogies are amazing lol

[–]arminius_sawMOD ABOOBS 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What's city year? Why do you need a physical for it?

[–]pittfan46 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

With city year, I got into Impovershed and at risk schools and help kids in school.

[–]Mictlantecuhtli 4ポイント5ポイント  (12子コメント)

I've been trying to quit caffeine for the better part of a year. I've decided to end my struggle and just go back to regularly consuming coffee.

Also, I've been watching Sense8 because my friend told me that the show had shaft tomb figures in it. Sure enough, they popped up in two episodes. It's so nice to see tiny bits of the area I study show up in non-academic settings.

I just came across this article on an alt-history novel where the Romans invade 13th century Cahokia. The article contains minor spoilers about the plot of the novel.

[–]MBarry829God bless you T-Rex 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

The caffeine struggle is real. I'm legitimately addicted. If I don't have any then I'll go through with drawl symptoms after about 24 hours. I get the shakes for crying out loud.

[–]Mictlantecuhtli 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I get a headache for about a week.

Sometimes I get shaky while on caffeine and I normally only drink one cup of coffee a day.

[–]MBarry829God bless you T-Rex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If I'm consuming caffeine I'll only get the shakes if I consume a lot than I'm used to in a short time, like with an energy drink. But the headaches. Man, they'll kick in first and are the worst. Sometimes I'll forgo coffee and cola on the weekends without even realizing it, and a massive headache will settle in. It's worse than a hangover headache.

[–]SinlessSinnerSinning 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I gave up caffeine for a couple months until I realized I only gave it up to prove I could give it up, there was no real benefit.

[–]Mictlantecuhtli 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I managed to go two months without caffeine as my longest stretch. What I noticed the most is that I could fall asleep easier and my sleep was more restful.

Whenever I'm not on caffeine I feel dull. Like I'm a washed out reflection of normal me.

[–]willkinton247Hiroshima and Nagasaki underwent urban renewal 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I've done this too. My life was no better off than it was before.

[–]Domini_canesFëanor did nothing wrong 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I gave up caffeine.

I really really miss Mountain Dew...

[–]Mictlantecuhtli 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Soda was surprisingly easy for me to give up. I gave it up way back in high school, but I also began drinking coffee in high school. Now, I could probably count how many times I've had soda this past year on both my hands.

[–]eongeAlexander Hamilton was a communist. 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good. Good.

[–]TurnshroudPresident Raiko is literally Sozin 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

let the caffeine consume you.

Am I doing it right?

[–]arminius_sawMOD ABOOBS 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I drink like three cups of coffee a day when I'm working (when the coffee machine's working, that is, and it almost never is) but I've never had a problem on my off-days when I have like one cup max. Although I don't know if that's really a caffeine dependency.

[–]sirpellinorOther Sources: literally every reputable historical source 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Been writing a paper on the Venetian colonial empire but I seem to be stuck with the conclusion that 'more research should be done on this field'. This is quite annoying given that I spent my last one and a half month on this. Otherwise it is rain and brutal sunshine, alternating.

[–]Mictlantecuhtli 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oooh! Have you hit up Cyprus yet? Read about the siege of Famagusta?

[–]DirishVeni, Vidi, Predatori 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any book recommendations you can make? I love reading about Venetian history.

[–]DirishVeni, Vidi, Predatori 4ポイント5ポイント  (13子コメント)

Thanks to the survey I've discovered /r/bestoflegaladvice and it's hilarious. Landlocked neighbours, subpoenaed babies, soccermoms who think they're above the law, and much, much more.

Thanks to whoever entered that in their favourite meta-subs!

[–]MBarry829God bless you T-Rex 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Have you sorted by top of all time yet?

The blaming the DD for their own drunk driving is probably my favorite.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

This subpeonaed baby is already my new favorite, just beating out the guy who got caught jacking it to a billboard in his car.

[–]MBarry829God bless you T-Rex 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh, wow. Subpoenaed baby is the new best ever. How the hell is even such a thing possible?

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A secretary or intern probably made a big goof and hasn't realized yet.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's the absolute best, though sometimes it can get pretty tragic, but then it gets better. In one of those Best Of Part___ links on the side, there's a thread where legaladvice got a kid out of no-shit slavery.

There's also this.

[–]TurnshroudPresident Raiko is literally Sozin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

wow, that sub is amazing. Subscribed!

[–]bananameltdown 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Recently learning why /u/zapopa doesn't drink scotch was one of the best reveals I've encountered on reddit.

[–]DirishVeni, Vidi, Predatori 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I want that guy as my lawyer :).

[–]bananameltdown 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/Zapopa was recently opened to the public. It used to take delivering a particularly nasty comment to be grated admittance there.

[–]TurnshroudPresident Raiko is literally Sozin 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Uh, I lost all my RES data. That sucks. The thing is, I saved a backup of all my tags, and followed rhe instructions for restoring them, but it's didn't work for some reason. Help?

[–]arminius_sawMOD ABOOBS 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Speaking of RES, anybody know when it's going to start tracking vote weight again? I really miss that feature.

[–]websterandy42Sources? Just prax it out. 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Can you get to the prompt by pressing "."?

[–]TurnshroudPresident Raiko is literally Sozin 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

yes

[–]websterandy42Sources? Just prax it out. 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

RESStorage update RESmodules.userTagger.tags

Does entering that ^ give you the place to paste in the tag information.

[–]TurnshroudPresident Raiko is literally Sozin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ok, so that works. But, how exactly do I open the dialogue box with all my tags? What program do I need, I mean, because I keep getting the dialogue box that says I need to specify a program to open it in

[–]Felinomancy 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

So I hear there's gonna be a second blackout tomorrow (7/10). Y'all gonna stay open, or do I have to look elsewhere to read my volcano fanfics?

[–]Roland212He's called Domitian because he was just that kinky. 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would be deeply upset if we blacked out what with the group that is currently associated with the movement, and the fact that we didn't black out the first time.

[–]tobbinatorFrancisco Franco, Caudillo de /r/Badhistory[M] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are staying open as usual

[–]arminius_sawMOD ABOOBS 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Huh? First I've heard of it. The original blackout achieved what it was supposed to, there's no reason to black out again unless you're an anti-Pao dipshit.

[–]Felinomancy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Word around town (and by that I meant /r/circlebroke) is that there's gonna be a second one on the 10th. So y'know, just checkin'.

[–]arminius_sawMOD ABOOBS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't see anything on /r/modtalk or /r/defaultmods, so it's probably coming from /r/Blackout2015 or /r/IHaveTheMentalCapacityOfATrilobite. Either way, no sub anybody cares about is blacking out.

[–]Spartacus_the_trollThe burning of the the Library of Alexandria was from an STD. 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've been reading Naomi Oreskes and I'm learning more and more how chaotic scientific research and discoveries can be.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was listening to an old Infinite Monkey Cage about serendipity in science, and apparently it's hugely beneficial for research labs to give their scientists and engineers a period of time to just use their labs for whatever they want. Andre Geim got both his Nobel and Ig Nobel prizes thanks to this policy.

Apparently a good amount of progress has been made by faffing about.

[–]Spartacus_the_trollThe burning of the the Library of Alexandria was from an STD. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

A lot of the early evidence for plate tectonics came when Harry Hess, Fred Vine and J Tuzo Wilson were just dicking around at the latter's office in Cambridge in 1965. Vine had just introduced the Vine-Mathews-Morley hypothesis and was trying to see if it applied around the world. He offhandedly mentioned he thought there was a spreading ridge off the Pacific Northwest. Wilson chimed in "lol, I have bathymetric and magnetic surveys of the northeast Pacific that have been sitting there since the late 1950s." So the Juan de Fuca ridge was discovered as a divergent boundary. Neither of the other two even taught at Cambridge. They were just, fortunately, there.

[–]Roland212He's called Domitian because he was just that kinky. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So week two of my job at the battlefield is fun. I cannot drill for shit, but everything else is pretty great.

[–]Gunlord500 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

FIRST

Making my way through David Kennedy's book on World War I and enjoying the hell out of it. Maybe I'll post a bunch of quotes from it on my Tumblr sometime...

[–]A_Crazy_CanadianEU4 is a Academic Source 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

To much rain everywhere, I swear I'm growing mushrooms between my toes.

Does anyone know some good books on the carter administration?

[–]websterandy42Sources? Just prax it out. 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm leaving for Chicago in a few hours; that should be fun.

I forgot that my fiends don't all understand ironic meme culture, so quite a few think I'm a huge dork now. The joke's on them though, I've always been a huge dork.

[–]dancesontrainsVictor Von Doom is the Writer of History 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know fiends? :o

[–]MBarry829God bless you T-Rex 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm reposting this from a Moronic Monday from a couple of weeks ago. I hope that's okay.

Good morning /r/badhistory!

So I've been reddit-squating on a sub called /r/mosaicearth the last few weeks. The inspiration to do so came after I found some sub that specialize in running in map games, and led me down a rabbit hole in exploring such games on other web fora (again).

What is mosaic earth intended to be? Well back in my alternatehistory.com days I was involved in running and playing this map game. The core concept involved transporting various countries with different points of departures (PODs) to a single Earth and the free playing what happens next. Our most successful game ran for about 6 months and was probably one of the most fun things I've done on the internets before.

Mosaic Earth is a forum based nation game, similiar to /r/worldpowers and /r/historicalworldpowers . In the game each player takes on the role of a nation and plays out the narrative in a semi-cooperative manner. That is to say the goal isn't to win, but to further the time line of events. The game has it's roots on the forum for alternatehistory.com.

The key component to Mosaic Earth is what is called the ISOT - Island in the Sea of Time, which is taken from the SM Stirling novel of the same name. In that novel, the island of Nantucket and its inhabitants are propelled backwards through time from the 1990s to the Bronze Age. The AH.com community generized it to refer moving any geographic body backwards or forwards through time, and the hi-jinks that ensue.

For Mosaic Earth, the ISOT is multiple nations from multiple timelines. Using the most successful Mosaic Earth that I helped run as an example you had countries with various points of departures with a technological level (I know, chartism but balance requires it) of the mid-1880s participating. So in the Americas you had a United States (where the Union crushed the Army of Northern Virginia more decisively on July 4, 1863 at Gettysburg) a Kingdom of New Granada (with a point of departure in 1549 with the ponatification of Juan Alvarez y Alva de Toledo), La Plata Republic (that won independence from Spain in the 1770s), and an Empire of Peru. For areas of the Earth not claimed, since there was large stretches in the Americas, Asia, and Africa, we decided to run the world in 1400 AD, partially to capture that imperialistic zeal.

The game was (is? I don't know, as I haven't been active there in years) mostly free play, with very few rules. A cabal of moderator-players was utilized to counter balance any blatant cheesing. It would probably be better to have a more formalized rule set.

Anyways, I started up /r/mosaicearth a few weeks ago on a whim. I was partially inspired after lurking on the aforementioned world powers games. Since the games were some of the most fun, and engaging things I've ever done in a web community I feel like trying something. On a meta level, alternate history helped drive my interest and understanding of real history- I believe it to be a very useful educational device. Mostly, I'm looking for thoughts on organization and rules, or even just general interest.

Also, true to Giants fashion Jason Pierre-Paul managed to blow off one of his fingers by literally playing with fireworks. Soon all NYG players will be protected by a cocoon of some sort during the off season. Expect Eli who is such a lovable doofus, that it may be impossible to hurt him.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Jason Pierre-Burress.

[–]MBarry829God bless you T-Rex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Giants do not mix well with things that go boom. We shouldn't even give them sparklers.

[–]JoosemanCol. William Tavington 1776th SS Division Stand in Lines 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Going to have to make my way across London today to get to a train station to go home because I have next week off work. All Underground trains cancelled and I can't cycle as I have a suitcase. This could be interesting...

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hire a hansom cab?

[–]dancesontrainsVictor Von Doom is the Writer of History 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I hear the traffic's gridlocked.

[–]WalkingOsteoclast 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can get a trailer for your bicycle for the suitcase! Admittedly, this is probably a bit late for that and I don't know how the rail network would handle it.

[–]willkinton247Hiroshima and Nagasaki underwent urban renewal 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm going to be in one of my good friend's wedding, so that'll be awesome.

[–]facecubenever go full volcano 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

My favorite website, The Dissolve, closed down yesterday. Sad day.

[–]arminius_sawMOD ABOOBS 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Man, I'm so tired, I'm not going to set an alarm and just sleep in until noon tomorrow." wakes up at 8:00 "...huh."

I'm not commenting on reddit drama. The sheer volume of dipshits is just tiring me out. I want hockey to be on again, that was way more interesting. Any CFL fans here? I'm thinking of going to watch the Eskimos, they seem like fun.

Dreamed I was in China last night. Now that I think about it, it's actually really interesting because I was speaking in Chinese in the dream, except that I was speaking really badly. People make a big deal of dreaming in your second language, but I don't remember anybody else speaking Chinese, just me muddling along. Funny that.

Not much else to report. I organized a pub night for the Federal Liberals tonight, hopefully that'll be fun. Yesterday I worked an eight-hour shift on my feet and then wet straight to the gym, so I'm pretty impressed with myself.

EDIT: My Taiwanese uncle just sent me a picture of some mangoes, which reminds me of the real reason to go to Asia: the fruit is AMAZING

[–]WalkingOsteoclast 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stealing this from /r/ShitWehraboosSay: There was a Confederate general named States Rights.

[–]dancesontrainsVictor Von Doom is the Writer of History 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's SDCC this weekend! I'm a little jealous, but not of those hellish queues.

[–]bananameltdown 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The comment below from this thread is really bugging me. It is someone responding to a question on how anyone can divorce Mao's philosophy from some of his actions while in power.

Well like a lot of people he was deluded into believing he was doing what was right and pragmatic. Most people in power make choices that kill millions.

If late capitalism is the monster he thought it was, which i'm inclined to agree with(we're talking the systematic deaths of billions) then I can't really fault him, the delusion was the idea that he could make things better.

What I find most interesting about him was his military genius though. Before Mao there wasn't really a Sun Tzu for the lumpen proletariat, most military manuals assumed a king or general in command of an imperial army, not peasants with modern weapons in international protracted wars.

Sure Mao's a complicated figure but when people rush to defend anyone with his kind of history do they really think through what they are saying?

Anyway, I'm sure it would consume hours of someone's time trying to rufute it, but mostly I just needed to vent.

[–]GravityKills 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Been seeing an increase in confederate flags/bumper stickers.Found a lot of good new music. Super stoked for Healths new album Death Magic. Might take holiday soon, head to Serbia. If I do so I'll attempt to remove kebab.

[–]MrTejLiterally Windsor -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Researching the Cypriot Emergency, found a really pro-EOKA/anti-British book, the language used makes me chuckle. It could just be my own bias seeping through, but anyway....

On that note, anyone know any good scholars/works on the Emergency? Besides D. French, S. Robbins and few few others, there doesn't seem to be much in the area I'm working on. Think I'll have to visit the archives again.