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[–]kajam93 894ポイント895ポイント  (136子コメント)

So, I had no idea that anyone cared how big someone's labia is until right now. I just thought vaginas looked like vaginas.....

[–]esoteric_coyote 132ポイント133ポイント  (92子コメント)

It's a thing, to the point women feel like they need to get their's surgically altered(Link clearly NSW). There's a documentary about it some where on Netflix... too lazy to find it right now.

[–]ZippityD 121ポイント122ポイント  (49子コメント)

Huh. So that's a thing. We're weird, us people.

[–]small_havoc 106ポイント107ポイント  (46子コメント)

Yeah I never had a problem with mine, until Channel 4 did an "embarrassing bodies" episode on vages. I think I made it 17 years without hating that particular area, and after that I became really afraid of intimacy because of it, thinking I was going to be called a freak or whatever. Thanks, media.

[–]JUSTLETMEMAKEAUSERNA 106ポイント107ポイント  (27子コメント)

Most men honestly don't care, just giving you a heads up.

[–]omnipotant 108ポイント109ポイント  (12子コメント)

All men: Hey, nice vagina.

No men: Well the girl is wonderful, but what an awful vagina. Let's call off all the sex we could be having.

[–]Hyperdrunk 78ポイント79ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gay men: Ew gross, a vagina. Get me a penis please.

[–]Porrick 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exception: bad hygiene.

Source: mostly-straight male. Day-old pee is not an enticing scent.

[–]Eludeath 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

Women care too much what other women think? That's the only point I feel makes sense.

[–]lacheur42 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

How often do straight women show their labia to other women?

[–]turimbar1 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

wait, I thought this was one of the rituals of friendship... no wonder I have so many lesbian friends...

[–]burping_fish 32ポイント33ポイント  (5子コメント)

Am man. Can confirm. Does not matter in the slightest. Never a consideration. Never an issue. Never.

[–]Wigg2K 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also a man here. Not an issue before I heard about it. Now that I know about it...still a non-issue.

[–]small_havoc 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks you're right, I realised that after a few more years. I don't think I'd be interested in someone who was that concerned about how people's junk looks anyway - it's all getting mashed together regardless. :P

[–]Anzai 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Personally, I just like vaginas. Pretty much all of them so far.

[–]anillop 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This gets asked all the time over in /askmen and the answer is almost always "wait this is something women worry about". This also applies to the color of the vagina too.

[–]jonnym43 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't you mean head down ;-)

[–]kloudykat 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

Girl I sleep with legit has an issue with how her labia looks. She thinks it is way too big, looks horrible, is extremely unattractive, unsexy, etc.

Of course it looks beyond perfect and she is about as far from unattractive as you can get, but good luck convincing her of that.

I always wondered what put that in her mind....now I know. If it wasn't the TV show you were talking about, it was probably a similar one.

Thank you.

[–]huskersviper 44ポイント45ポイント  (10子コメント)

It's sad, what passes for show-worthy tv these days. Apparently, making an episode called "Embarrassing Bodies" was not considered morally corrupt, but hey...that's television for you.

I'm just a regular guy, who has seen, touched, tasted, and had sex in quite a number of vaginas. All I'll say is that truly (read as emphatically speaking) all vaginas are beautiful. Hygiene is the number one thing in my book. Whether a girl has a small vagina, innie, simp or lips that look like tiny elephant ears, they are all works of art. I'm sorry you had to experience fear of intimacy because of those like Channel 4, who have little knowledge or common decency on the subject of bodies, embarrassing or otherwise.

[–]:Dshewhoentangles 73ポイント74ポイント  (27子コメント)

Just wanna say as someone with long labia, I would totally snip those suckers off just so they stop getting pinched in things. Not for the looks.

[–]ZeiglerJaguar 57ポイント58ポイント  (20子コメント)

I know someone who had this operation. She was unhappy with how she looked, but also how she felt, all the time, with... well, as a guy, I don't exactly know, but with pinching and such, I guess.

She was outrageously happy when it was done, felt consistently much more comfortable. There can be good reasons; don't judge people's choices!

[–]:Dshewhoentangles 20ポイント21ポイント  (16子コメント)

Yeah. I have huge and saggy boobs and long labia, and I went to go get a consultation for both. insurance will not cover either (or at least the surgeon didn't bother to call me back and now I've lost my health insurance). I know deep down that I will be SO FRIGGIN HAPPY after I get them, and I kinda saddens me when I read stories of 18 years old who have been able to get breast reductions and such so easily, while I've been dreaming of it and trying since I was 14 (almost 11 years now). It would cost me $2500 to get a labiaplasty. I don't have the money right now - and believe me I've been tempted to just grab the kitchen shears and snip them off myself. Nothing a hydrocolloid can't handle, right! /s

[–]Pezasauris 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

That made me involuntarily clench my vagina so hard. I'm sorry you're so uncomfortable, though. :(

[–]call_me_Kote 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Girl in my senior class got reduction surgery just before we graduated. Her change in demeanor, energy, and appearance were all rather positive. Obviously plenty of guys joked she was ruining a true gift from god, but when you're suffering lower back problems and can't buy bras it's really nothing to joke about.

[–]kdmcentire 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I knew this existed. I just had no idea people were ripping into other people over it. That's ridiculous. I understand getting surgery if you're hurting yourself due to length but for looks (outside of working in the porn industry) seems... unduly painful. I get some people really care about their appearance and that it's their body, their prerogative. I do. It's just... very odd to me. Maybe because apparently I've got "childish labia" as well, so I don't understand the trials of having longer lips, but it's so subjective I'm having difficulty processing it.

[–]esoteric_coyote 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even as someone without "childish labia" I have a hard time wrapping my head around it. I don't like the idea of women making themselves look "tidy" down there because some jackass said she looked funny. But I agree it's there choice and their body. I'm happy with mine, my husband is happy with mine, I have no complaints. Vagina Pride!

[–]OnlyMath 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

They all look different at least in my experience. Just like penises or any part of the human body. Different doesn't mean wrong or right it just is. People need to get over their unrealistic expectations of people's bodies. It is never going to be exactly what you expected in your head. As long as their parts aren't diseased or something just love it.

[–]DJDanaK 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

PREACH! I've seen purple penises, veiny penises, pale penises, giant mushroom top penises, etc etc. I have never once thought to compare a penis to a different penis. They're penises! They have one job! Keep 'em clean and disease free and there's no problem, or rather there SHOULDN'T be a problem. Genitals are weird but everyone's got em so treat them with respect.

[–]OnlyMath 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right? As long as the vagina clean and disease free I don't really have a problem with it :P

[–]SeattleBattles 45ポイント46ポイント  (2子コメント)

This seems like something that people who only see vaginas on screens really care about.

[–]da_chicken 19ポイント20ポイント  (5子コメント)

As far as I'm aware, it's largely backlash from the Australian law which requires basically everything but labia majora [NSFW!] be removed from the most widely available pornographic materials. There's been a steady rise in labiaplasty in Australia since then, as women want their bodies to look like what men expect, and men learn what to expect from, among other places, porn. Or women learn by looking at porn themselves, and they think their body is abnormal because they never see labia like theirs.

It's similar to how pornography effects men's perceptions of average penis size, and what size women want in their partner.

[–]sophiatheworst 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was 18 before I even knew vaginas looked different and that was just because the guy I dated at the time described his ex's vagina in vivid detail.

[–]amen_break_fast 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

That must've been an awkward date.

[–]ozfiend 68ポイント69ポイント  (6子コメント)

I like them all. each have their own reason why they are fabulous, variety is the spice of life. Anyone calling a grown woman's vagina childish is a retard

[–]LogicChick 683ポイント684ポイント  (82子コメント)

I'd advise to stop hanging out wherever vaginas are being critiqued. Personally, I've never been to a place like that and I'm all over the internet so it shouldn't be hard.

[–]NewjackNewbieson 58ポイント59ポイント  (9子コメント)

I think even reading one stupid article about it would give me body issues for the rest of eternity. I'm soft as fuck. :/ But maybe it's because like OP I got a "childlike" vagina. Shrugs*

I do like the idea of a vagina critique scene. Arthouse vagina. Yo.

[–]schrodingerorgsm 35ポイント36ポイント  (4子コメント)

As a perverted male with an insanely high libido, I honestly couldn't give a fuck what a girls vagina looks like, for 2 reasons:

  1. People are too fucking critical of other peoples bodies as is. I'm not gonna say some beautiful at any size bullshit, but people need to realize that most people are attractive, and just cause they don't have the accepted weight/hair/vagina or whatever doesn't make them less attractive.

  2. If I'm interested in a girl its for more than appearances. Yes Ill probably fuck anything, but appearance shifts based on a number of factors. So long as a girl meets some minimum attractiveness threshold(which as I've established is either very low or I'm open minded), I focus way more on personality and intelligence.

Now maybe I'm the exception, but I think there are plenty of guys out there who care more about what you got going on upstairs than downstairs(I mean mind, not boobies. I like those too though).

Tldr; people need to stop being body critical and accept everyone is beautiful. If you're basing your shit on someone's appearance exclusively, you're gonna be miserable. Learn to appreciate everyone's beauty and you'll be happier.

[–]BlackeeGreen 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

there are plenty of guys out there who care more about what you got going on upstairs than downstairs

Attractiveness is 90% attitude. Or 50%. Or whatever, it doesn't matter. People exude sexuality from within and that's what counts. Appearances can easily be changed and, over time, will change no matter what. It's your personality, your self-confidence, your ability to trust your partner, your enthusiasm for the person you're with that is really sexy.

It's like the difference between how someone's eyes look to you and how someone's eyes look at you. If that makes sense.

[–]icetbitch[S] 40ポイント41ポイント  (63子コメント)

This type of thing sometimes comes up on blogs and websites that are supposed to be body positive, ironically.

[–]KermitLeGrog 235ポイント236ポイント  (39子コメント)

Where exactly is this happening? Stop visiting bastions of stupidity.

[–]chubbylittlesecret 372ポイント373ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm sorry to have to tell you this but you're on reddit right now

[–]Derpylox 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

...yeah, I'm trying to figure out how a private part becomes targeted for so much critique...

[–]Wanhope 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

Body positive, isn't.

It like the so-called fat acceptance movement, they hide behind "body positivity." When it usually is made up entirely of people cutting down other for being "too skinny."

It's just about projecting insecurities.

[–]ynosleepscreams 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Exactly this. I let these people shout out all about "real women" because stopping them is a waste of my time. The only other people buying that crap are other self proclaimed "real women" making fools of themselves. Go ahead and try to shame me for being skinny, its just them showing the hidden shame they have for themselves. Haters gonna hate and so forth

[–]Wanhope 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty much, as stupid as it sounds, haters are going to hate.

Unfortunately these toxic self-sustaining beliefs get a boon from echo chambers online, where the only people there are people who believe that it gives you a skewed idea of what is acceptable or believed in society at large.

It's only when thse fucks (of any silly belief) come out of the woodwork and into the open that they just get shattered.

[–]videodork 314ポイント315ポイント  (11子コメント)

Honest question:

Where the hell do you go that people are discussing their genitals this frequently??? Seems like an odd topic of discussion.

"So, long story short, Tina, I think Diane got collagen in her lips. "

" Hey, speaking of lips, what do you think of these? "

zips

[–]NewNavySpouse 47ポイント48ポイント  (8子コメント)

She said some documentary made comments about how unnatural and childish small vaginas were. So the comments weren't directed specifically at her to say, she did mention that it's been brought up in blogs and the like.

[–]videodork 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gotcha. That makes much more sense. Thanks!!!

[–]Rin_aonir 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

She did, however bring up that people are calling her bf a pedo for being with her. So at some point it's being discussed.

[–]tinydot 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I thought it was more like seeing the posts on Facebook and what not about real women having x or being y. My friend is perpetually skeletal, and was really down about the real women have curves/bones are for dogs nonsense that was going around.

[–]Edgar-Allans-Hoe 745ポイント746ポイント  (134子コメント)

Unfortunately this always seems to happen when one type of something is having an acceptance movement (fat acceptance and skinny hate for example). Don't worry about it OP, your vagina is fine.

[–]Ulfric_Stormtoke[🍰] 63ポイント64ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, there is a difference between acceptance of one thing (fat people, long labias) and just reversing the standard.

[–]Durbee 226ポイント227ポイント  (22子コメント)

I read that as "Don't worry about it OP, your vagina is fire." In which case, please DO worry about it.

[–]credibit 192ポイント193ポイント  (7子コメント)

How dare you judge my flaming vagina.

[–]Caosdth 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

All I can think of is "I'm straight but my vagina is flaming"

Forgot where I heard it from.

[–]SoundSunspotWestern 33ポイント34ポイント  (1子コメント)

alternatively her vagina is about to drop the rap album of the year

[–]thedude388 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're not caught up with the kids' slang, fire is good

[–]Sevlins 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Chlamydia, the infectious crotch fire!

[–]icetbitch[S] 75ポイント76ポイント  (45子コメント)

That's so true. I am a plus sized woman myself, and while naturally I advocate for fat acceptance, I do not condone body shaming. I would never dream of putting someone down for the way their body looks because of how this has hurt me most of my life.

[–]Edgar-Allans-Hoe 94ポイント95ポイント  (7子コメント)

Exactly! There is nothing wrong with encouraging someone to feel better about the skin they are in, but the point is to get rid of all chastising, not flip it on the other party.

[–]lolatu54 52ポイント53ポイント  (3子コメント)

How is your vagina subject to so much scrutiny?

[–]LittleSandor 42ポイント43ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe it is misinterpretation. "Hey guys, look at my vagina!" Everyone else "Stop being so childish!"

[–]gondor333 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

Agreed. This is one of the most frustrating things about some "activists". Vilifying someone is not activism.

[–]xeroax 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think some people think like you do and other people think, "Now is my time to get revenge."

I don't hate on people for skinny shaming because I know what they've been through but I will tell them to STFU when I see it.

[–]Navicerts 15ポイント16ポイント  (8子コメント)

As someone who is too skinny, people tell me all the time. I dont think it would happen in the opposite direction with people constantly calling me "fat" if i was overweight (talking friends and family).

[–]AshleyBanksHitSingle 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

There are two completely different kinds of skinny shamers from my experience though.

There are the people who are total assholes and they are just trying to reverse the standards and make skinny "ugly" or "shameful" so they tell you you're skinny with a tone of disgust or pity. Those people suck.

Then there are the people who genuinely have the impression that gaining weight is an easy thing to do and also it happens if you're allowing yourself to have fun. They tell you that you're so skinny because they think you don't realize you have a "lay on the couch and eat a tonne of pizza free of the bad consequences" card. They think that in order to be skinny you must be depriving yourself, because they are when they want to lose weight, so they're trying to tell you that you have some leeway to stuff your face and feel no stress about it. I don't mind these people. They have no ill intentions.

[–]saraithegeek 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are also a few who are genuinely concerned- like my sister's gym teacher who saw that she was a 75 pound 18 year old and promptly called my mother to express her concern for her health. Even though I know my sister gets tired of it, these people have their hearts in the right place.

[–]AshleyBanksHitSingle 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, definitely. I had a bit of a problem with genuine concern for other women's eating habits when I was younger because my best friend developed anorexia/bulimia in our early adolescence and I didn't see it. I wasn't sophisticated enough to pick up on the clues and I blamed myself so much afterwards that I developed sort of hypersensitivity to any questionable habits after that. It was 100% my problem but I definitely didn't mean any harm. I just hated the idea that these other girls might be suffering alone because I was too oblivious to pick up on their disease, even when no disease actually existed. The pendulum swung back to centre as I aged but there was certainly a time when a really thin girl skipping a meal or going to the bathroom straight away after eating would have me internally panicking.

[–]kaseyyeaaah 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dont think it would happen in the opposite direction with people constantly calling me "fat" if i was overweight (talking friends and family).

No, they definitely do. Any compliment is usually followed by 'for your weight' or things like 'you'd be so gorgeous if you lost weight'.

Anytime eat anything non-healthy there's comments, 'are you sure you need that?' etc. Choose to relax on the couch after a long days work? What a lazy fat ass, go for a walk, do something active!

No, the comments never stop no matter what. No one is ever happy with anyone else because they're not happy with themselves. People suck, basically haha

[–]joeflux 92ポイント93ポイント  (55子コメント)

Like the Meghan Trainor - All About That Bass song.

Starts off about body acceptance, then starts attacking "skinny bitches" etc calling them "stick figure barbie dolls".

[–]Shaper_pmp 136ポイント137ポイント  (46子コメント)

then starts attacking "skinny bitches" etc

Apart from, you know, the exact three lines immediately following it:

Go ahead and tell them skinny bitches Hey
No, I'm just playing I know you think you're fat,
But I'm here to tell you that,
Every inch of you is perfect from the bottom to the top

I swear people can't even be bothered to wait until the end of a sentence these days before getting offended. :-/

calling them "stick figure barbie dolls".

Once again, it's actually

stick-figure, silicone Barbie doll

so it's explicitly referring to completely artificial, porn-star-like physiques that only come from a significant amount of work with a surgeon's knife.

Now, whether you agree that people who undergo surgery to turn themselves into stereotypical caricatures of male fantasies deserve criticism or not is another issue, but the song is emphatically not knocking any and all slim/skinny women.

Literally the only way you can possibly assume that is if you take one line completely out of context, and if you tactically ignore words right in the middle of another line.

It's disingenuous, manufactured recreational outrage at its finest.

[–]nothingtoseehere28 116ポイント117ポイント  (22子コメント)

How about "boys like a little more booty to hold at night" (implying more booty is more sexually desirable) - ignoring the heteronormative issues and the idea that a woman shouldn't worry about her size so long as it's still sexually appealing to men it's still saying that bigger is better.

[–]ninjette847 71ポイント72ポイント  (2子コメント)

Except insulting someone and then saying "Just kidding!" doesn't make it ok. What if the song was "and all you fat slobs" and "walrus looking" ... "Just kidding!" Would that be ok?

[–]Shaper_pmp 48ポイント49ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ah, are we back to the perennial 2XC argument that ultimately ends with you declaring irony itself to be inherently toxic and evil? ;-p

More seriously, it's impossible to ironically invoke stereotypes (even for the express purpose of disparaging them as evil and harmful) without invoking them.

Taken together the lines pretty unambiguously demonstrate:

  1. Trainor ironically invoking the common, automatically-anticipated stereotype of the jealous larger girl who resents slimmer, more conventionally attractive women.
  2. Immediately pointing out that that's merely an ironic affectation on her part, and that despite what you and the audience member might expect her to feel, it's not actually the point she's making in the slightest.
  3. Reiterating that while she's personally "all about that bass" and in this song specifically she's empowering larger women to feel good about themselves, she also recognises that slimmer women also deal with similar body-acceptance (even body-dismorphia) issues, and sees them as allies that should be mutually supporting each other, rather than the antagonistic opponents with a crab-bucket mentality concerned only with dragging each other down that society expects them to be.

Of course if you take the comments completely out of context, ignore the obvious (hell, explicitly stated) sentiments and intent and fixate only on a couple of words out of the whole song, then yes - it's easy to paint any ironic statement as immoral or unfairly supporting exactly the sentiment it's actually criticising.

That's the literal meaning of "taking it out of context", after all.

[–]Insert_Non_Sequitur 31ポイント32ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm glad you pointed this out - I always seem to have to point this out to people. The skinny bitches part was supposed to be a joke... and then she goes on to tell them that they're perfect the way they are (but everyone ignores those lines).

I can still see why people might be offended by the skinny bitches remark but to be honest, the song itself is about her - Meghan Trainor and how she learned to accept her body the way it is after being told for a long time that she needed to be thinner to be a popstar.

So people should just take it for what it is - someone singing about learning to accept themselves as they are and not taking drastic measures to change just to suit other peoples ideals.

[–]Danttdantt 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yesssssssss all of this is everything I've wanted to say!

On a similar note - people hear what they want to hear :/

[–]MarthaGail 31ポイント32ポイント  (4子コメント)

Then why even bother to call thin women skinny bitches? The next line seems like a CYA sort of thing. It's like in court where the lawyer says something that's either very leading or is banned evidence knowing the judge is going to order the jury to disregard. Yeah, it's already been heard, no one is actually going to disregard it.

[–]Shaper_pmp 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then why even bother to call thin women skinny bitches?

Because whenever you have a larger woman talking about body-acceptance and encouraging larger women to feel good about themselves, it's an absolute stereotype for people to expect them to overreact against the conventional standards of beauty and start disparaging slimmer women.

You see an identical process with larger girls referring to slim women as "not real" women, women with lots of public hair disparaging women who shave as "looking like little girls" and implying their partners are paedophiles, etc, etc. Hell, the number 1 post on 2XC right now (fuck: it's this very post) is one complaining about women with larger labia reacting against labioplasty and a prevailing standard of beauty that emphasises smaller labia by characterising women with small labia and clitorises as having "childish vaginas". How's that for timing?

You can tell this is an instinctive expectation people commonly have, by the sheer number of people who jumped on the one throwaway ironic joke invoking this stereotype in the whole song, to insist that (despite her own subsequent statements explaining and clarifying the line!), Trainor's doing exactly that.

No, she's invoking the stereotype ironically in order to immediately disparage it, in exactly the same way posters on 2XC will post "what about the menz?" or MRAs will post "misandry doesn't real!" or people post "freeze peach!" in SRS.

All of those examples are understood in context to be ironic, and nobody gives them shit about it.

Try the same thing as a celebrity in a light-hearted pop song, however, and half of Twitter starts stamping on your clit because it's an excuse to turn a light-hearted, body-acceptance-encouraging song into a shitstorm of empowering and satisfying recreational offence at the expense of someone people only conceptualise as a two-dimensional cardboard cutout they can tear to shreds to feel better about themselves, rather than a real person who might actually be trying to make a nuanced point in a medium ill-suited to nuance or qualification. :-/

[–]thirdjane 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

(I think I love you.)

[–]shinraRude 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

the song IS about big ass... B Ass. who cares, it's a fun song right? Maybe if we all cared a little less what people thought and just had fun the world would be a better place

[–]jeanskismet 42ポイント43ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have never heard of this before.

[–]pinkprincess95 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

i'm going to be perfectly honest and say i did not know that the "vagina/labia positive movement" was a thing...

i also have 0 idea if mine is long or short or large or small or average. i probably don't watch enough porn lol

[–]mjfgates 118ポイント119ポイント  (13子コメント)

This is ridiculous enough that I'm having trouble even thinking of anything besides "Who the fuck even SAYS that?" Because, yeah, ridiculous.

[–]DisplayFX 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thought the same thing. Who the hell even says or thinks about this shit. Whats fuck man

[–]camipco 146ポイント147ポイント  (8子コメント)

The word for the external female genitalia is "vulva."

[–]EmoticonIlliterate 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm surprised there's only one of these comments. Because yes, you're right.

[–]michyum 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ron Jeremy can show you how to grow your labia Six Inches in Two Weeks

[–]Frenchiewowsa 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hahaha. I saw an ad the other day that said "penis less than 10 inches? Click here for help" and I was flabbergasted. Like...I guess that's a good way to word it if you want to appeal to almost every male on the internet, but holy shit I'm sure there are a ton of preteens who now expect dick to be gigantic and are in for a major reality check.

[–]PMmeyourfacepls 112ポイント113ポイント  (33子コメント)

As a woman with labia hypertrophy I envy you. Both women and men have made fun of me. You should know most of those hurtful comments are made out of envy. Hell, you have an idealized body part that is sensitive to even talk about to most people.

Don't let those trolls ruin your self-confidence. Ever.

[–]esoteric_coyote 45ポイント46ポイント  (10子コメント)

Yeah there's a growing movement of people who are against larger labia, calling them meat curtains and such. And some women are actually getting their's trimmed surgically . So I can see why there are another growing movement to be proud, but it really should vagina pride. I don't care that the OP has a "pretty" vagina, be proud! I can't even say I wish I had one, because I love my vagina, meat curtains and all. Be proud of your vagina, because it's unique and yours.

[–]PMmeyourfacepls 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm actually saving up to get mine trimmed. I can't mentally handle having labia that are about 13 cm long.

[–]MachineMagic2 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah there's a growing movement of people who are against larger labia, calling them meat curtains and such.

Just because you're only now becoming aware of it doesn't mean its new or growing.

[–]maracay1999 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah there's a growing movement of people who are against larger labia

lolwut? The only thing that's growing is the amount of teenagers discussing vaginas that you've come across on the internet. When I was in high school, sure some guys made fun of "roast beef" vaginas. Now that I'm an adult, I'm fairly sure most guys don't care whatsoever.

So if you're spending time on 4chan, then sure, you're probably coming across a lot of immature discussions. If you're on here, you'll find many more accepting people.

[–]rhinoloupe 22ポイント23ポイント  (16子コメント)

As a woman with labia hypertrophy

I didn't know this was a thing until now. Like... you just have large labia? Why is that considered a 'condition'? Maybe I'm missing something, but when I read this description:

"Labial hypertrophy means the labia are larger than normal. Labial hypertrophy is common."

I have to wonder where they got their definition of 'bigger than normal'. The pictures I see on an image search look totally within the boundaries of 'normal'.

We don't say people with normally-large breasts are suffering mammary hypertrophy or guys with normally-large dicks are suffering from penis hypertrophy.

[–]PMmeyourfacepls 17ポイント18ポイント  (7子コメント)

Trigger: Extreme gross body part description.

My labia are about 13 cm long when I smooth them. Most common labia are anywhere from 2 cm to 5 cm.

So with my mighty roast beef flaps I feel both awesome and disgusting.

[–]=^..^=kokomocat 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

It has that name and it's considered a condition because people don't think it's normal. You can read more about it here it is pretty informative. I just found that link myself after your post prompted me to search the why to your question and I found it very interesting.

[–]rhinoloupe 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

Thanks for the link. Interesting read. I find it quite jarring every time the article refers to long labia as a 'condition' that needs 'correcting'. How people are paying to have their genitals mutilated for aesthetic reasons is beyond my understanding.

I've actually only heard discussion of large lips in a sexual context before i.e. some people get turned on by large lips. I find it pretty awful that anyone would get teased about the size of their labia, big or small.

[–]mirinthesky 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I live in the Netherlands and when I was a teen I read a magazine that you could send questions to. Some were about sexuality, some about make-up, friendship, etc. Once there was a girl who was venting, she had large labia and living in a country where there are millions of bicycles, always had pain on the way to and from school because sitting on the bike saddle hurt her labia apparently. There are probably other inconveniences, so it could have physical reasons when it comes to surgery instead of only aesthetic.

[–]Ashprism 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've heard of people getting their labia caught outside of the edge of their underwear and things like that, along with having chafing issues, so maybe that's what the article is referring to?

[–]=^..^=kokomocat 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

We as humans get many things mutilated and deformed for aesthetic reasons; but we're so used to breast/butt implants, nose surgery and botox that we don't even blink an eye anymore.

And I completely agree! Getting teased for how you look is never good; but it is specially bad when it comes to such a sensitive (and somewhat taboo) topic as genitalia. I understand people have preferences but that shouldn't be determining factor for anything. Sucks that we still have to deal with silly things like that! Large or small labia, a vulva is a vulva and a vagina is a vagina and it still works the same.

[–]wineandcatlady 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ugh vagina critiques. I remember once when my friends randomly started talking about this girl who had a large Labia and they called her dick girl. They even said her boyfriend refused to touch it because there was something wrong, it didn't look "normal"

They showed a photo to me of what it looked like and I went home later crying to my boyfriend about mine because it was identical. I actually looked into surgery because I was so ashamed. It took a few months and I'm sometimes super self conscious but my boyfriend doesn't mind.

I don't even know why I'm ashamed because it's a vagina lol

[–]PorkPyeWalker 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dear god where are you generally browsing online that you find it hard to avoid critical deconstruction and analysis of peoples genitals?

[–]paperconservation101 40ポイント41ポイント  (10子コメント)

This big/small vag divided seems like something 4chan may have cooked up.

[–]bunnylover726 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've got long labia and small breasts and culture tries to tell me it all makes me less of a woman. Uh, false- tearing someone else down for things they can't control makes someone less of a person.

[–]bebeyim 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

You really stop worrying about it, why would you care

[–]cl3ft 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

Vaginas are awesome. All of them. -Men.

[–]gorillamonkey 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

My vagina is at times childish when she farts in my boyfriends face. Seriously though people who make those comments about vaginas being 'childish' looking need to get a life!

[–]modestmouselover 18ポイント19ポイント  (12子コメント)

I haven't heard of any of this so I'm hoping I don't. We need to remember another women's breasts, vagina, or any other body part being beautiful does not mean another persons is. It all comes from insecurity.

[–]HighRisk26 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

If a person is this dumb they shouldn't be allowed near reproductive organs anyway.

[–]4ugustin4 32ポイント33ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why do others know, what your vagina looks like? And why do they blame your boyfriend being pedophile? This sounds weird to me. If I heard others criticizing my vagina, I would never talk to them.

[–]I_Reddit_First 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't even know this was an issue. Is this an issue?? Where does anyone discuss this because its the first I've hear of it.

A vagina is a vagina, they all look a little different but pretty much the same. I can't say I've ever really pondered when looking at one what it looks like, how I'm responding to it and what that makes me as a person. I'm not philosophising over the vagina or judging it and I don't understand why anyone would??

Wherever that is on the internet, stop visiting it these are not normal people. I'm sure your vagina is fine just as much as the rest are...

[–]Groovah 116ポイント117ポイント  (14子コメント)

THIS IS NOT A THING. This is not a thing. I am a man and I literally had to log on just to say this is the dumbest thing I have ever read. I know this subreddit is all love and womens lib and all that but this is like someone saying "guise my bank account is just too big" "my job pays me too much" "my dick/boobs are too big" it is a non issue it is like when wicked skinny grills act like they are fat. it's obnoxious.

[–]GeeMunz11 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

Agreed. Society isn't shaming you. You are feeling insecure about something someone somewhere said on the internet. Nobody gives a flying fuck about it.

Now things that do get shamed -> obesity, small boobs, small butt, small penis, man-boobs, hair loss etc.

[–]nope_alope 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's not fair to people who have big dicks and boobs. I imagine having a big dick can both be uncomfortable and an inconvenience.

I have huge boobs, and it's not a "non issue" especially when it's become a discomfort for me both physically and mentally. I have to live with this constant heaviness on my chest, clothes not fitting me properly, and men approaching me to say inappropriate things to me. The other day a group of men followed me in their car in broad daylight to gawk at my chest and tell me to give them a look. I covered up my shirt and then they told me to stop doing that. I've had men supposedly "complementing" my "tits" since I was 12 and calling me a bitch when I refused to acknowledge those men. How is this not an issue for me and other girls and women with big boobs?

[–]vulvasaur001 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for writing this.

[–]TreatYoSelves 27ポイント28ポイント  (3子コメント)

Um, where exactly are you looking that this is even an issue? I have not once seen anything related to this topic. My advice would be to stop frequenting it. I mean come on, read what you wrote...do you know how ridiculous all that sounds?

[–]mega_trex 16ポイント17ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'll trade vaginas with you if you want.

And stop hanging out on 4chan. They insult every form of labia.

[–]networknewjack 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

If this leads to vagina on vagina violence we all lose.

[–]LonelySquad 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

How exactly is this brought up in a conversation? Is this common water cooler chat at your work?

[–]RunAMuckGirl 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

How is this even a topic for discussion with...? Who?? I'm not being a smart ass. I'm just trying to figure out how this even came about.

[–]throwawaychilder 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not to sound like a perv (gonna totally sound like a perv), but I have a hard time thinking of any vagina shape I wouldn't like. I think they're all beautiful.

[–]thirstynurse 30ポイント31ポイント  (4子コメント)

You must have 0 serious problems if this is the type of thing you come up with to complain about. Congrats, and congrats on having the type of vulva that's idealized almost everywhere (exception being the type of blogs you visit I guess).

[–]malcolmxtc 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

With due respect, i wonder how this is possibly an issue that cause women stress. I can think of nowhere in western society where nudity below the waist is mandatory. Who exactly is judging these women? Are women divulging photos of their organs at cocktail parties? If a man made insensitive comments about a woman's body, then he's a jerk. I argue that it is not indicative of a society wide obsession.

[–]savvybackpacker 86ポイント87ポイント  (7子コメント)

literally no one is talking about this

[–]sneakystratus 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, not true. I don't exactly think that there are websites of people critiquing vaginas necessarily, but the myth that longer labia are a result of slutty behaviour is a very old one. And one look at porn indicates the obvious; society frowns upon anything which isn't hairless and tiny in all respects. So yeah, people talk about it. They talk about it when they meet a woman with larger labia.

[–]overcloseness 51ポイント52ポイント  (50子コメント)

Hi, male here, saw this on /r/all. Tentatively want to point out that guys I know around at my age (26) are not bothered by such nonsense. Either way, I can't imagine something like that changing what I think of a vagina let alone a woman. I can't imagine why someone would put down another person for something like this. it honestly reminds me of the Japanese marginalising each other based on their blood types.

[–]Period ShitsImPuntastic 68ポイント69ポイント  (26子コメント)

Believe it or not, there are some men (and women) who believe that if a woman has a larger labia, as some people call it an outie, then they're sluts who have had so much sex their vaginas get saggy and loose.

I've seen some fucked up things said about women with vaginas like these. It's sad.

[–]overcloseness 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

Are these people that believe that generally around the age of 17 and under by any chance?

[–]Period ShitsImPuntastic 34ポイント35ポイント  (1子コメント)

Probably a larger gap like high school through college. But when that is your current age range that actually does have a bit of an effect on people. Teenagers are insecure. So having a dude look at your pussy and tell you your a lying whore because it's not pretty and perfect isn't great for self esteem.

We really shouldn't trivialize problems because the younger generation experiences this.

[–]Ethernum 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

This sounds like the opinion of people who don't come into contact with labias with any regularity.

[–]comments on fleekSpookyBDSM 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Huh, then I have had a "saggy and loose" vagina since I was old enough to take note of my lady parts at about 4 or 5 years old. I've always had labia minora and a clit that sticks out. My joke is "If you can't find my clit, you are probably dumb"

[–]kaseyyeaaah 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

Eh, my friend has 'beef curtains', she's actually had guys stop dating her because they think it's gross, she's 24 and dates guys 25-35 generally.

Most fuck her then tell her after, but she's actually had two be like 'what the fuck' and walk out.

woooo

[–]LicenceToBill 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup. 26M here and if I'm face to face with a woman's vagina I've probably already decided that I like her quite a lot.

[–]MidnightAdventurer 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

I agree, it's just another thing to be insecure about when the reality is that most men aren't going to reject a woman for what she looks like downstairs for a number of reasons. (They don't care, they didn't notice, the don't want to risk not having sex now that they've got this far etc) those that would ridicule a woman for this would probably find something to point at anyway

On the other hand, easy access to porn does have to potential to lead to some awkward moments when the guy gets a lady naked for the first time and she doesn't look like what he's seen before or a woman gets a guy naked for he first time and be looks different (circumcised or not, or simply smaller) to what she was expecting. Funnily enough, more nude pics is probably the best solution - add some variety and make it a bit easier to find what normal is without pointing at a particular type as being wrong or unnatural

[–]2059FF 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Spoken like a true O negative.

[–]noneofthismatters999 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I'm also 26 and I guess I've seen a few by now. I can't say that I've ever got to the point with a woman where I see it for the first time and ever thought... well much of anything really. I can't even imagine what a "small" clitoris looks like, unless it gets to the point where I needed a magnifying glass I simply don't care.

Same with nipples, I was once with a woman who had one regular and one that went inwards. I thought it was pretty cute but I wonder if she constantly worried about it or felt insecure.

[–]UnbiasedLevity 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

Agreed, so long as it doesn't hurt our dicks we'll stick it in without a second thought; sometimes it can hurt and we still won't care.

[–]jjloraine 28ポイント29ポイント  (5子コメント)

sometimes it can hurt and we still won't care.

So what you're saying is that the teeth aren't NECESSARILY a deal breaker...

[–]Rrraou 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Depends if the vagina is smiling. If it looks friendly there's a chance it won't bite.

[–]Ethernum 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is that like a dogs facial expressions? When it's ears point high and it tilts it's head slightly to the side, the vagina only wants to play?

[–]fruitjerky 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm feeling so out of the loop. I'm pleased to hear that labia acceptance is a thing though.

[–]NotQuiteStupid 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Little girl vagina" is such a twitch-inducing phrase. It reminds me of the moral-panic types of people and the now-infamous Brass-Eye episode on pedophilia.

Why should people be obsessed with how your personal parts look? More importantly, why are they obsesseing over yours? Those people's right to positivity ends at their right to mock your body.

[–]natersd 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed! People ALWAYS make fun of my little wiener. I didnt have a surgery, its just like this!

[–]Dreamscarred 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually thought this was going to be about shaving since women who prefer to be bald get a lot of flak for looking like a kid. :( This is so much worse, because it takes personal preference of of the question and starts shaming people for their natural body. I wouldn't doubt it stems from jealousy.

[–]SJDubois 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

All "real women have x, look y, or behave z" campaigns are inherently anti feminist, body negative, sex negative, and belittling.

[–]MisterGuyIncognito 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Guy here: most of us like vaginas/labias of any shape/size.

[–]LOLer_coaster 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

How do all these people know so many details about your vagina's appearance?

[–]alfie_ 18ポイント19ポイント  (9子コメント)

I agree that it's a pathetic thing to say but I think that you're being you're taking someone's dumb comment(s) too personally. According to collectively thousands of upvotes I am trashy, unprofessional, unhygienic and gross but those people don't know me and if they met me they'd probably change their views pretty quickly.

Some people are just assholes due to their own insecurities/perceptions and others just don't think about/don't care if people are hurt by their comments. Your vagina is the standard "pretty" vagina so I think this is kind of like an attractive person getting defensive over someone calling them ugly - despite being conventionally attractive and having that fact acknowledged they let that one person's comment get to them for no good reason (sorry that I couldn't think of a better metaphor - obviously not all conventionally attractive women know it or accept it). I'm sure you have an awesome vagina and I hope you know it. I doubt anyone who had the privilege of seeing it in person would stop and go "wow what a childish vagina"...really, what a weird thing to think about a vagina anyway, comparing it to a child's? Way to ignore the entire grown woman that it's attached to! Lol

*Wow I thought you must have seen one or two assholes make a comment but I scrolled further and had no idea that there was so much hate for little labias. Who are these people and why do they waste their time bringing other people down?

[–]Diva Cup Cocktailseccentricgiraffe 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

I have no idea if my labia are long or short or whatever. I have seen pictures of vulvae (ahem, the outside parts are the vulva, not the vagina.), and I know what mine feel like (not flexible enough to look, not interested enough to use a mirror). I have just never attempted to assess where my vulva sits in the distribution of vulvae. I don't really care, tbh. I don't care what men think of it, either. In this particular area, I find function to be way more important than form.

[–]That's no moon!ChibiLlama 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shaming another person for their physical appearance is exactly what body shaming is, in any form.

Doing it to make yourself feel better doesn't fix the problem, it makes it worse.

People just don't think of others. I'm sorry people do this! Don't think of what others think of your parts (they are YOURS, and if it's what you're comfortable with, their comments don't matter). Besides, who the heck is going to look there besides you or your boyfriend (or Doctors!).

[–]cosmic_butter_cpu 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So shaming people about labias is a thing now?

When did I miss the fucking memo?

[–]Ash_ash 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wtf? Why are people worried about what other peoples vaginas look like?! I didn't even know this was a thing let alone that people looked down upon certain "types".

[–]lordperiwinkle 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

All vulvae are beautiful. It appalls me that there is any negative judgement at all about how any woman's vulva & vagina look like. Be happy and enjoy a lifetime of pleasurable sexy times with yours.

I imagine your bf likes you for who you are and is not with you only due to the appearance of your lady bits.

[–]TikiViking 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok so I've worked in the healthcare field for several years. And I've seen my fair share of vaginas/labias. Not a single one has looked exactly like another. Everyone is built just a little different. So claiming that any appearance is somehow better than another is just infuriatingly stupid. You at least of have some degree of control over whether your "skinny" or not. But there is no lifestyle change to magically change the way your labia looks. Love your body.

[–]Angry_Avian 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait, people actually care about this kind of thing?

If there's an unspoken rule about not shaming a man for his penis size, why on earth would you shame a woman for the shape of her labia?

It really just goes to show you how much reddit hates women.

[–]Bifferer 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

What women fail to realize is that guys are happy to see ANY vagina. We love them all!

[–]thedorkofyork 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reading the title of this post, I assumed your vagina went around calling people doodoohead and was afraid of the dark.

[–]Silvercelt 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously? Now we are vagina judging? Don't we have enough to worry about without that? Make up done? Check! Hair done? Check! Nails done? Check! Vagina done? Check! That's it! I'm moving to a different planet...

[–]peaceatrebor 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

ITT:

  • OP judging body positivity movements by a few vocal shitheads who have criticized her body
  • People shitting on body positivity movements
  • People shaming OP for showing her vagina to people
  • This comment going down in a storm of downvotes

[–]SmellyLipstick 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where are you seeing these negative comments about small vaginas because I've not once seen this happen.

[–]EdTheRealist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stop showing it to so many people, and you won't get so many comments about it. There you go, problem solved.

I have a small dick, but no one really knows about it since I don't show it off (why would I?).

[–]Blackmarketbeagle 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is a thing? I have to worry about how my fucking labia and clit look now? Whose fucking business is it? And why would anyone even entertain this stupid conversation? Who decided this? Oh let me guess, a man somewhere did. If you are a woman and you buy into this shit then I don't even know what to tell you. There's a sucker born every minute and concerning yourself over what strangers think of your genitals then you need to get your shit together.

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.  

[–]GeeMunz11 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh let me guess, a man somewhere did.

Nah...men don't care. Maybe the collective preferences of all men lean slightly toward a certain way, but no we do not discuss this at all ever.

[–]faceclassic 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

I refuse to believe this exists in my reality. This is too much. You guys have got to be fucking trolling. Please be trolling. I can't accept this.

[–]UrbanCowgirl79 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

So do I. I was just born that way. I agree, there is no such thing as a "normal vagina" or "normal labia", there is only "the spectrum of vaginas that exist". None are normal OR abnormal.

[–]itsmeRose 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you should stop talking about your vagina and other people wont know what kinda vagina you have.

[–]lucid_throw 24ポイント25ポイント  (7子コメント)

At first I didn't believe this was a real problem, but after visiting /r/smalllabiahate (slh) I was left mortified at the comments:

"Your labia is so skinny, I got a papercut on my tongue."

Sad.

[–]Sharksaurus 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Haters gonna hate. No need to let them get to you. Everyone has different preferences and there is no right or wrong way a vagina can look (outside of infections I suppose).

[–]cptusername 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's almost as if all people have feelings regardless of physiological material.

[–]Plaguerat18 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

... the fuck? Is this a thing now? Must we always default to tearing down women's bodies even among communities who's purpose is to fight against tearing down women's bodies? Must we always think in extremes, that a woman is either a tiny little baby girl or a fat swamp monster? Why is it possible to own a body the wrong way?

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      [–]_M0rgasm_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Christ, the stuff you women have to put up with is unbelievable. Please don't think I'm a 'white knight' because I'm not. And I certainly don't have a fedora to tip. I'm simply a husband and a father of a little girl. I can't believe some of the stuff I come across regarding women's issues.

      Men worry about penis size but I've never seen any penis shaming. What a weird world we live in.

      [–]Throwaway1944719115 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Come on, let's be honest here. Guys rib each other about having small dicks. Guys who drive a certain kind of car... making up for a small dick. Black guys have huge dicks... and so on. We all deal with some sort of shaming, it's fucked up, but so is life.