16
17

What happened to Edgewood? (self.Atlanta)

DerpChangEdgewood が 投稿

The last couple times I went out in Edgewood, the crowd has gotten a lot more.... ratchet. (I know I'm going to be downvoted for not being PC).

What happened? It used to be a very mixed crowd at all the bars.

My theory is that Department Store (across the street from Church) started attracting a pretty ratchet crowd. And it just kind of grew from there. Nowadays Mom's, Noni's, and even Joystick is pretty getting more and more ratchet.

全 184 件のコメント
並べ替え:
ベスト
トップ新着論争中古い順Q&A

[–]breauxzzio 23ポイント24ポイント  (3子コメント)

I live in the apartments a block away from dept store. A bullet came through my living room window a week ago while I was out of town. I love being able to walk to bars when I'm in the mood but I also like to stand near my windows. Time to move!

[–]100_percent_dieselOld Fourth Ward 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was at a bar in midtown a couple of weeks ago when a black lady and guy came over from the bar next door and gave me a black eye because they were looking for a fight. I hate to say it but hood blacks are not like most blacks and they can be dangerous with no respect for life, just a fact.

[–]sharknadough 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What bar?

[–]100_percent_dieselOld Fourth Ward 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tenth and piedmont in midtown. It was a lesbian party and these two clowns wandered in from a hip-hop party next door at G's.

[–]fanta_romantaMedlock Island 32ポイント33ポイント  (49子コメント)

Maybe my age is showing, but........what the fuck is "ratchet"?

[–]Norm_Peterson 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Ratchet" is a black slang word that originally referred to a woman who - like the tool of the same name - was only good for getting nuts off. It has since come to mean anyone, male or female (although still mostly females), who dresses or acts trashy or "ghetto."

[–]the_deliman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What?!?

From what I understand it's just a variation of the word wretched that changed over time.

Wretched --> Wratched --> Wrachet --> Rachet

[–]underscorexover there somewhere 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's the transformer that turns into an ambulance!

Or it's a way of saying "black people who act too boisterous for my comfort level".

[–]deck_hand 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Finding out the answer to that was the only reason I clicked on this post. I thought it might mean something to do with a certain kind of behavior, but apparently it's just being used as another word for black. Disappointing.

[–]rebo2 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think it's like a socket wrench.

[–]BluegodzillDuluth -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Urban Dictionary is your friend

[–]autourbanbot 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's the Urban Dictionary definition of Ratchet :

A diva, mostly from urban cities and ghettos, that has reason to believe she is every mans eye candy. Unfortunately, she's wrong.

Typical signs to beware of include, but are not limited to:

-owning a Blackberry

-BLARES anything by Drake, 2Chainz, Nicki Minaj, Gucci Mane, Waka Flocka, Lil Wayne, T-Pain, Cali Swag District, or any other garbage entertainment rapper

-rowdily quotes "lyrics" from aforementioned artists

-has a weave reminiscent of a bird's nest after a tempest hit the tree it was in, and is dyed at least thrice

-wears torn leggings/stalkings (mostly of the fishnet variety), unpolished 8" heels (or higher, depending on how God-awful they look), fitted jean jackets (to accent the blubber 'round their arms and stomach), and 4 layers of caked on make-up to go clubbing

-repeatedly use ludicrous terms such as "YOLO", "swag", "boost", "beaking", "doe", "really", "naw", "actually", "twerk", "coaster", "dagga", etc., to make a valid statement when they speak

-have side bangs, despite having incredibly small-ass foreheads to support them

-are commonly overweight

and are mind-numbingly stupid; a safe assumption to make would be saying they're uneducated (as if they could pass the 4th grade)

If spotted, please report to the authorities, notifying them that they are possible smack addicts, or potential, degenerate Chaka Khan look-alikes.

Imagine a woman that wears skinny clothes, bad looking heels & fishnet stalkings, blasts Drake or Waka off her phone, would go out of her way as to cop CD's from these artists, has a bad hairdo, looks immensely disgusting as a human being, and would rather spend her time maintaining her looks, communicating among her folk, and being a jobless, gold-digging bum for the rest of her days, not even bothering to get herself a good shower, a paying career, and a damned effort to earn a diploma.

That, my comrades, is a prime notoriety of a ratchet.

God help us all.

about | flag for glitch | Summon: urbanbot, what is something?

[–]4daMaher -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

in this case its punk ass white boy for blk ppl. i can guarantee you two things about op... 1 he/she is not from Atlanta and 2 they are a bigoted close minded asshole.

[–]Mightyhorse82 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've actually heard the same thing from 3 different people in the last few weeks.

[–]TantraArtBrookhaven 25ポイント26ポイント  (6子コメント)

On the other extreme, go to Town Brookhaven on a weekend and it feels like you just walked into a Belk/Abercrombie ad.

[–]well_fuck_thatchamblee/buford hwy 48ポイント49ポイント  (2子コメント)

do you mean to tell me there are rich white people in brookhaven

hold the fucking phone

[–]underscorexover there somewhere 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is literally the reason Brookhaven exists. Rich white folks wanted to abandon The Poors and be Dekalb Buckhead.

[–]brightlancer 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Brookhaven includes part of Buford Hwy (2mi?) and the less-than-stellar apartment complexes on and around it.

[–]Lovnmesomealpacas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

O

[–]sanfordthemanford -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Where you don't have to look over your shoulder and watch the females you brought with you bc they're constantly getting harassed by the "Rachets" those crazy white people why would they go to Brookhaven instead of Edgewood 😒

[–]well_fuck_thatchamblee/buford hwy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah those black ratchet people are harassing our women! so fucking pissed bro!

anybody heard the new 2 chainz mixtape?

[–]dog_mayor 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I used to go to the strip all the time back when Joystick first opened up. It was awesome. Still got bothered by bums but whatever it's to be expected in that part of town.

Got a job and moved out of the city earlier this year. Came back and decided to go hang in Edgewood with my buddy on a Friday night. Big fucking mistake. The crowd definately different than it was 2 years ago. It's no longer a hipster hang out. The influx of frat dudes, creepy middle aged people and yes, ratchet folk, is prevalent and evidenced by police officers standing outside Department Store and fights breaking out like it's a normal thing. Just my honest observation.

[–]DerpChangEdgewood[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you. It's nice to hear someone who's actually been to the area relate to my observation without accusing me of racism. The whole area changed a lot. It's such a shame.

[–]changomachok-woo 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

soundtable used to be a club called "over da edge." the same folks still go. everyone is trying to have a good time. if you want a little more white folks, go to va hi. either way, don't sweat it too much.

[–]MandelishVirginia Highlands 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also, if you want the first question you get asked to be, "Where did you go to school?", Virginia Highlands is a good place to hang out.

[–]AdrienneSublimePoncey Highlands 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahahaha man I like the highlands but this is kinda spot on.

[–]sanfordthemanford 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

Same thing that happened to Lindbergh

[–]DerpChangEdgewood[S] 27ポイント28ポイント  (3子コメント)

I mean, Lingbergh was doomed as soon as they opened a Wet Willie's.

[–]Buzz_2569 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Yelp reviews agree with you.

[–]rocksauceWest Midtown 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wet willies reviews are the best worst a reviews in town. I'm pretty sure 50% mention getting thrown up on by strangers.

[–]TheKarmakazieGrant Park 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ha ha ha! Fuuuuuuuck, this is so true.

[–]JollyGreenGigantor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same thing that happened to Buckhead before that.

[–]TwoDaysRideO4W 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

I live in the neighborhood and last night was hands down the worst I've ever seen it. The entire street was filled with people like it was a block party and cops were everywhere. Thankfully Noni's is a couple blocks down and doesn't get as overrun.

[–]DerpChangEdgewood[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah last night was really bad. I went to a show in The Music Room, and when I walked home up Edgewood, I was overwhelmed by the ratchetness.

[–]BrickTopp -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was at the "show" at music room for about 10 mins.

The lady taking our cover money was a fucking cunt from hell, and I think it was bc some honkies were going to the hip hop show.

[–]drunk_katie666Yo Boulevard 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you're talking about Friday night, you know that one of the hip hop groups to which you are referring features a black guy, a white guy, and a Latino guy, right? So maybe she was just salty for reasons other than your honkiness Source: dated guy in said group, can confirm whiteness

[–]MrMuntzzEAV 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mighty high? Known all the guys for a long time. Good shits.

[–]CHNchillaVaHi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's how it was the last time I was in Edgewood too. Unbearably crowded up on the boulevard side but less so as you went down the street.

[–]jgeiger3Cabbagetown 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

RIP Edgewood. It used to be a fun place. Now just long lines and full of bro-ternatives honestly. I will venture to places during the week just because there aren't ridiculous crowds, but weekends I avoid at all costs.

[–]DerpChangEdgewood[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously. RIP.

[–]chillin223Old Fourth Ward 23ポイント24ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm more concerned with the flood of frat bros we've had for the last two years.

[–]DerpChangEdgewood[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Haha agreed. But with the way things are now, you won't have to worry about that much longer

[–]chillin223Old Fourth Ward 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yea it's been a steady flow back in forth. Been in east atlanta since 08 and it has gone back and forth.

[–]turbodude69 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

eav is pretty steady. you got a few hipster bars and a few bro bars and a few black bars. somehow they all coexist...i have no clue how more fights don't go down.

thats part of the reason atlanta is a unique place. not a lot of other cities in america have so many racially diverse bars and neighborhoods where people mostly get along and hang out at the same places.

[–]chillin223Old Fourth Ward 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

True but even WAV has been gentrified as fuck in the last few years. Yuppies all over.

[–]zedsmithpractically Grant Park 17ポイント18ポイント  (20子コメント)

maybe just stay in va-hi.

[–]DerpChangEdgewood[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (17子コメント)

I moved to the O4W area because of the unique scene Edgewood had to offer. I use to live in Va-Hi, and honestly the bars there are just a slightly watered down version of the Buckhead bars.

The only other place to go now is EAV, but still, EAV doesn't have a lot to offer and mostly cater to very specific niches.

[–]hodgeyATLMidtown 29ポイント30ポイント  (15子コメント)

You moved to O4W. One of the oldest black neighborhoods in the country... And you're complaining about black people being in your neighborhood. Did I get that right?

[–]100_percent_dieselOld Fourth Ward 1ポイント2ポイント  (14子コメント)

They aren't talking about those kinds of people, the formerly affluent blacks who lived here and still do. They are talking about people who tend to cause fights and gun shots and make the area less safe. Also hate to burst your bubble but hipsters made Edgewood. This crowd just discovered it due to department store.

[–]FemaleSquirtingIsPee 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Jesus Christ, I don't know where to start.

[–]your_a_racist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

(http://i.imgur.com/Mtdcy.gif)

[–]your_a_racist -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

AGREED, GET THIS RACIST PEICE OF SHIT OUTTA HERE. RACIST IN DA HOUZ, RACIST IN DA HOUZ

[–]WildVelociraptorAnsley Park 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh I see, this is only about some new group taking over something that used to be cool and ruining it. Also that group is black. Er, "ratchet".

[–]well_fuck_thatchamblee/buford hwy 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

>implying the old fourth ward was always an affluent black neighborhood

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Fourth_Ward#History

that stopped being the case like fifty years ago

also

Also hate to burst your bubble but hipsters made Edgewood

hahahahahahahahahahaha

[–]100_percent_dieselOld Fourth Ward 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

I don't know how much you know about the area from up there in chamblee but I've lived here since the only business was danneman's coffee. Then I was there when noni's opened. And church, and spundtable and all the rest. I had a conversation on my street with a guy whose dream it was to create a vintage gaming bar on Edgewood. I actually know exactly what I'm talking about. You're just being defensive for no reason now.

[–]well_fuck_thatchamblee/buford hwy 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

yeah I forgot I never leave my neighborhood and have no idea what is going on anywhere else in the city my bad

your view of the history of this place begins right around when white people began showing up

[–]hodgeyATLMidtown 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly.

[–]100_percent_dieselOld Fourth Ward -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sorry you hate white people so bad!

[–]well_fuck_thatchamblee/buford hwy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

statement:

your view of the history of this place begins right around when white people began showing up

response:

Sorry you hate white people so bad!

very reasonable conclusion

[–]100_percent_dieselOld Fourth Ward -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because you are just so obviously single-minded and unreasonable at this point that it doesn't make any sense to argue with you.

[–]hodgeyATLMidtown -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is how I know you don't know what you're talking about. The only business... You ever heard of Sweet Auburn Market? The original Krog Street or that not un-Ratchet enough for you?

[–]100_percent_dieselOld Fourth Ward 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm talking about the strip of Edgewood which is popular with night goers, which is what the original post was talking about. Is that so hard to understand?

[–]turbodude69 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah...edgewood was pretty cool for awhile. it was like a less hipster EAV. oh well, RIP edgewood....

[–]VintageWrench -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Look at me, I'm a self righteous liberal that ignores facts. No one likes ghetto but ghetto. Blacks included. Get over it.

[–]FemaleSquirtingIsPee 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Blacks

I love it when people use "blacks" instead of "black people" - it makes bigots easier to spot.

[–]100Rings 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

disgonbegood.gif

[–]image_linker_bot 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

disgonbegood.gif

Feedback welcome at /r/image_linker_bot

[–]FemaleSquirtingIsPee 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I love everything that's going on here.

[–]WildVelociraptorAnsley Park 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's both unsettling and hilarious.

[–]RichardSharpe95th 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah one of the reasons I haven't been in a few months....to there or Lenox.

[–]Atlsucks 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Same thing happens with every nice area of Atlanta - 1) ghetto folks start taking over 2) shootings start to happen 3) increase in security 4) normal folks go elsewhere 5) ghetto folks follow

Remember "Screen on the Green" in piedmont park? It was great until the ghetto crowd began showing up, acting rowdy, and then there was a shooting that caused the park officials to shut it down for good. Ghetto folks, can't you stay the fuck away from Atlanta's nice areas?????

[–]LinkBalls 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Black people, go away!

[–]catieleary 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait a second... are you really complaining about black folks hanging out in the neighborhood where MLK Jr grew up, lived, and went to church? Just because it's been gentrified relentlessly over the past couple years doesn't mean it's no longer an historically black neighborhood. Get the fuck outta here with your bullshit "theory." You're in Atlanta, bud.

[–]ButtercupslosinitBanished to the northern wilds 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is it a summer thing?

[–]cabasse 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

this was my thought in the atl road rage/world class whatever thread as well

[–]sonic_toasterOld 4th Ward 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I live off of edgewood (and have for years) and I mean, it's always been a lower economic area. I had a nice Christmas murder on my street and the serial mugger that was a thing for a while. But there are a lot more assholes that hang out here now.

I mean. Seriously. People yelling at bouncers about "do you know who I am?", girls crying on the sidewalk, dudes hanging out in the middle of the street.

Like, just leave me and my ratchet neighborhood alone, though. People trash the damn place and then get uppity about the element.

I'm sorry. I'm just frustrated that my bars are being overrun and everyone just acts like a bunch of jerks.

[–]Jsweet404 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the "cool" club scene all over again. When I got down here in 01, Buckhead was the cool clubs scene, Midtown was the legit clubs with actual EDM, L5P/EAV were underground. Enter Ray Lewis, Midtown becomes new mainstream club scene, drives underground (Not hipster, b/c hipster wasn't a thing then) music to EAV, Downtown (The Mark, Castleberry Hills, Trinity Ave). Midtown has become super ritzy, EAV is a mix of hipster and underground, edgewood is college heaven now. It's slowly moving south. Maybe it's EAST POINT next lol.

I don't go out anymore, but very rarely when I do, I follow the music I want to see which is usually underground hip hop, Drum n bass, etc. The venues vary from Terminal West (Been awhile), Aisle 5, 529, The Earl, The Glenwood, the Basement, the Masquerade, etc. Douchey frat kids and ratchet ass people don't tend to like underground music.

[–]sharknadough 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

Same thing with Lenox Mall. It's gotten significantly worse over the last few years. overRUN with ghetto folks. And let's be clear - I'm not talking about African Americans in general, I'm talking about people who wear their pants below their asses, women with holes all over their clothes, guys in wifebeaters and/or t-shirts that hang down to their ankles. Ghetto is in style evidently.

[–]HawkCawCaw 10ポイント11ポイント  (22子コメント)

White Flight Part II: Edgewood Boogaloo

But seriously. This is why I am leaving Atlanta. This is what happens:

  1. Black people live in area

  2. White people screw over black people, e.g. slapping an interstate down the middle of a thriving black community

  3. Black property gets super cheap

  4. White people realize the property is cheap and start gentrifying it

  5. Investor money comes in, fully gentrifying the area, completing the process of kicking out poorer black people

  6. Black people of Atlanta realize the area is nice, start going there again

  7. White people don't like the new influx of black people, move to the new cool part of town.

  8. Investor money leaves the area, going to a new part of town

  9. GOTO 1

No one feels like breaking this trend, if it is even breakable.

[–]well_fuck_thatchamblee/buford hwy 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

man i don't know what you think goes on in other american cities

atlanta isn't the only place where white flight happens, it's arguably one of the best academic case studies of it though.

[–]HawkCawCaw 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know, but being an Atlanta native, it hurts the most to see it here. I figure that if I am a transplant in another city, it will be easier to shrug at the problem.

[–]well_fuck_thatchamblee/buford hwy 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

i was born and raised here, but i have lived (for periods of time) in new york, chicago, and milwaukee

racial politics re: segregation and gentrification can get way, way, way worse

[–]turbodude69 12ポイント13ポイント  (9子コメント)

except stage 3 and 4 have like 50 years between them.

and the "cool" part of town will always be evolving, that's just how cool works. once something or somewhere get's too popular, it's time to move on to a new spot. i'm actually excited about a new ghetto neighborhood being turned into a fun bar district. that just means more bars for us all to hang out at! atlanta is finally becoming a fun place to hang out.

[–]well_fuck_thatchamblee/buford hwy 11ポイント12ポイント  (8子コメント)

i'm actually excited about a new ghetto neighborhood being turned into a fun bar district.

i wonder how the people who used to live there feel about it as opposed to, i dunno, you

[–]turbodude69 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

sorry, that's the way capitalism works. people want to pay more to live in more desirable areas. poor people that get subsidized/free housing don't get the luxury of choosing where they want to live.

[–]well_fuck_thatchamblee/buford hwy 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

sounds like a pretty fair, equitable, and socially responsible system doesn't it

especially since rich people don't have to displace poor people, they choose to

[–]deck_hand 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Wait, someone offers a home for sale (or an apartment for rent) and you're complaining that a person takes them up on that offer? Really?

[–]well_fuck_thatchamblee/buford hwy -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

christ you guys actually think gentrification is a good thing

[–]deck_hand 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is gentrification your way of saying "white people?" Or is this just age discrimination because you think you'll never get older?

[–]well_fuck_thatchamblee/buford hwy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

gentrification describes a process by which rich people capitalize on cheap land values in lower-class neighborhoods, thereby displacing the area's original residents. as rich people move into an area, the cost of living in that area becomes much higher, solidifying the local demographic shift and effectively restricting access to the area's previous lower-class residents. so while an area might appear like it's "improving" (whatever that means), it's really just moving poor people somewhere else.

it almost always happens along racial lines as well, and certainly has been that way in the case of intown atlanta neighborhoods over the past 15 years.

but hey i guess it's an okay thing since it's the free market and unrestricted capitalism benefits everybody equally.

what the fuck are you talking about with "age discrimination"

[–]deck_hand 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Answering the last question first:

what the fuck are you talking about with "age discrimination"

Um, it's because I'm stupid, I guess. For some reason, I had always thought "gentrification" was the process of the average population of an area getting older. Now, after looking it up (after your comment) I see that gentrification doesn't have anything to do with age. Mea Culpa.

I suppose, in the end, the fact that people with means have more options than the rest of us doesn't seem fair. At one time, I looked at living inside the perimeter, but could really only find two extremes; places where I could not afford to live, and places where I wasn't comfortable living.

I did live in Brookhaven for a while, in some really old, really cheap apartments. This was before the MARTA station went in. I didn't leave because things got too expensive, I left because I got too poor. But, that's another story.

It almost always happens along racial lines as well

One would hope that some day, we can stop talking about race being an issue, where white equals rich and black equals poor. I fear I will be long gone by the time that is true, but... I still hope. That having been said, buying land while it's cheap and selling it to rich people after the price has gone up sounds like a good way for some of the poor to become less poor. I know what you're thinking, "they are poor. Don't you understand the word poor?" But, my family was poor, and while many of them still are, some of us have become "not poor." It can be done, and owning real estate is one of the best ways to move out of the economic category.

I can't solve the fact that there are rich people and poor people. It has always been so, and it always will. Rich people have advantages when dealing with poor people, just as they did 1000 years ago, and 1000 years before that. I suspect it will be that way 1000 years from now.

[–]rocksauceWest Midtown 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I bought a house in a growing area specifically because I think it's value will increase. That's just how housing works.

[–]hodgeyATLMidtown 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is why you SHOULDN'T leave. Be part of the solution and break the cycle. I also want to buy in O4W or Bedford Pine to invest. I really believe in this city.

[–]HawkCawCaw 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I know. Truth be told I have an offer in another city, and I have been trying to justify the move! Atlanta really has come a long way. The westside, O4W, downtown, poncey-highland are unrecognizable from even 10-15 years ago. Unfortunately, a lot of progress will be impeded as long as extreme regionalism and dog whistle racism are around.

[–]cabasse 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

i think we need more data points before we can jump to such conclusions

[–]HawkCawCaw 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just think it's kind of silly to complain about black people in a neighborhood that is majority black.

[–]cabasse -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

i agree with this statement. i don't necessarily agree with your circle of gentrification and flight, though.

[–]HawkCawCaw 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, it was probably a bit knee jerk.

[–]justcampDecatur 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

I can't help but feel like you are replacing the word "black" with "ratchet."

[–]WildVelociraptorAnsley Park -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Naaaaahhh, who would ever substitute a word for black?

edit: /s was implied

[–]Voxtrotly -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ditto. This is some racist bullshit. OP is basically saying, "What happened to Edgewood, guys? There are a LOT of black people around, right?"

I can't get over how incredibly small minded and closet bigoted people are.

[–]justcampDecatur 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP looked over both shoulders before posting.

[–]DeAntre -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

There will always be two facets of African Americans. Those who dress like ghetto thugs and those who don't. As long as these two facets exist, society will continue to come up with terms to describe the latter. It just so happens that term now is "rachet

[–]well_fuck_thatchamblee/buford hwy 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

lol @ using "ratchet" to mean "black people are in the streets"

lol @ being afraid that the wave of gentrification that you rode into your neighborhood is beginning to ebb

lol @ being uncomfortable with black people and living in atlanta

[–]WildVelociraptorAnsley Park 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just wanted to say that gentrification was bad, I didn't actually want to stop it

/s

[–]Voxtrotly -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe instead of lumping all these people together as if they're a hive mind and labeling them as "ratchet", how about you use it as a fucking learning experience and expand your cultural perspective and use it as a damn learning experience.

This kind of on the sly, racist bullshit always pisses me off.

[–]NomNomPotato 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was there two weekends ago and I understand what OP is saying. No, I'm not racist. But ANY person that was there would have been like, "Wow, there's a lot of black people here tonight."

[–]Crazylor -4ポイント-3ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well, just like anything cool and good, once the word is out it gets progressively worse. Just like video games and the community for them. Gone are the days of challenging games like Mario, Megaman, and the fun innovative games they created, and now the masses play COD and other bs. Same thing applies here. If it's good, it'll attract different types of people, more people = more of the more unwanted people.

Let me clarify, this just means ratchet people, and I don't mean black, I mean just ghetto 'hood' loud obnoxious people.

Edit: Love that I'm getting downvoted because even if you say ghetto, people identify it with black, and get defensive like I'm trying to circumvent and navigate my way around saying black people. Funny shit. On other hand, I hope it's because people simply disagree with my statement, but I'm leaning towards it's the former because black people can be ignorant about race and always think they're being attacked. This is coming from a black person.

[–]StoneColdSteveHawkng 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

There are still lots of great challenging, fun, innovative, games coming out all the time. They may not be the years blockbuster title but those sorts of games are still being made.

[–]redbananass 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. Anyone says "there no good music, games, etc, anymore" just isn't looking very hard.

[–]Crazylor -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Oh this year's been great, but it doesn't mean the market hasn't been flooded with crap.

[–]StoneColdSteveHawkng 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Unfortunately, there's been a ton of crap for every system ever.

[–]Crazylor -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's totally true, but I think it's changed. Back in earlier days, crap was mainly because of poor storylines. Some shitty games from way back when had at least mediocre gameplay, but unenthusiastic and devoid story content. Compare that to today, where it's the minimum of everything, it's like a recipe for the powerpuff girls without chemical X. The era of cookie cutter games, that's how I'd put it. I could also so we're spoiled though, I mean compare a game to today to one from that back and it's obviously better right, but the premise is that technology and games are to advance, instead of what they're doing now repeating the same shit. Anyway, nevermind me, just having fun talking about the industry xD what a tangent.

[–]StoneColdSteveHawkng 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you can make that argument for big AAA titles. Fortunately with indie and smaller budget games being so popular we've also got way more choices than ever.

My main point is, while it's easy to take a look at the big games and think "What is this crap?", I have no shortage of really good new games.

[–]idle_nomad 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think CastleberryHill is a great example of great authentic bar scene that blends different cultures of ratchet hipsters and ghetto yuppies without losing its identity

[–]young_but_ready 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is a ghetto yuppie?

[–]burgerkingdomdelighteast atlanta 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not sure... I think I spotted a gutter juicer hanging out with a pop-collar peasant there the other night.

[–]RichardSharpe95th 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is ratchet hipster?

[–]onafarawaybeach -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/pHIDGY6.gif

[–]FemaleSquirtingIsPee -5ポイント-4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Can someone just explain to me what "ratchet" is code for in regards to this post?

I know what it means. I just don't understand what OP means.

Edit: Got it, OP is asking if anyone else has noticed that Edgewood now has black people who aren't serving his drinks.

[–]underscorexover there somewhere 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

On a scale of "Carlton Banks" to "Lil Jon", anyone beyond Cee-Lo.

[–]mangolover 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's their "not racist" way of saying that they are troubled by the influx of black people. In Atlanta.

Don't even know what to say to OP.

[–]tomridesbikes 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

If OP is my age then he probably uses ratchet to mean shitty, off-putting people, not necessarily black. I was out in edgewood a few weeks ago and I know what OP means. There were ghetto folk being loud on the street, really sketch white dudes everywhere, and a white chick with face tattoos trying to sell me blow in Church bar.

[–]mangolover 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can say that ratchet doesn't mean black all you want, but that doesn't make it so. It's just another euphemism to mean "undesirable black culture", just like "ghetto" or "urban".

[–]tomridesbikes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess you could compare it to faggot and how South Park portrayed it. I grew up thinking faggot was the same as douche or asshole. It wasn't until later I found out it was a derogatory for gay people.

[–]redbananass -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If there are more shitty, dangerous people in Edgewood, say that. Why bring race into it when race isn't really the problem.

[–]BrickTopp -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude - I was on edgewood Friday for the first time in a month or two. I swear I noticed the exact same thing.

[–]jodwhyReynoldstown/Cabbagetown -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know on Sundays there's an awesome comedy show at Speakeasy at 10? right? It's a great show.