Where do you keep your pop bottles?

wittyrandomusername · 5分前

I bought a trash can that sits in the garage.

When it fills up I take it in.

user6580 · 1時間前

This is just one way and the different girls I meet through this is somewhat limited.

Then you don't have enough irons in the fire. By freshmen year you should have at least 10-15 social groups to call upon at any given time. By sophomore year cull the half that you didn't really like and pick up that many more.

Then you are never 'needy' to one single group and you have stuff to do 7 nights a week even if you alternate through groups one per day.

It also 'makes you interesting' because you're in Swing Dance, Samba Dance, Lacrosse, Humans Vs Zombies, Yoga, Entrepreneurial Club, Society of Automotive Engineers (more girls than you think), Society of Women's Engineers (Yes, they accept men), etc. It's when you start running into people that are in multiple groups. The HB10 in your Yoga class may be the HB4 that is in the SAE Formula One because she's not wearing yoga pants and makeup (to impress the other girls). And when you run into her at the bar in a year or two and you were the guy that didn't try to hit on her you're going to be golden. If you tried to cold approach her and she turns you down you'll never see her again.

The one thing that all of those campus groups have in common is they all party. They all have people that drink, they all have people that smoke and they all have people that have sex. You talk about "stoners" like they're a noun. It's an adjective to who you are. You're not the stoner guy. You're the guy in Yoga and Swing Dance that has the weed. Show up to 2-3 parties they throw and keep your nose to the ground. It'll start at about 11 pm. If all you're doing is going and smoking you're doing it wrong.

Take Yoga class 50 girls there are at least 2 gamers in the room. At least. They won't talk gaming at Yoga or talk gaming with their girl friends but if you're patient and don't blow good will on cold approaches (and that means hitting a landmine of anyone in that room) you may find out who they are. A friend of mine plays WoW with his HB10 girlfriend

You may bang one or two in the class, good for you. But you've just cut yourself off from any future plate spinning from anyone.

Study groups are a terrible social environment, people are trying to study. Girls there aren't in the frame of mind to be picked up or even meet a guy socially. If you're trying to chit chat about what they did this weekend when they have a big math assignment due you're not going to get invited back because you're counterproductive.

Does your campus have an outdoors club (Fit outdoorsy girls)? Does it have a Quidditch team (Yes, lots of girls play Quidditch).

Doing it to a lobby and study groups is amateur hour.

I've been able to apply and adapt what I learned in each different situation

And how much breadth of knowledge do you have to approach people? I don't identify with anything with the 'so you're a boring fuck' thread because my ADHD has always driven me to a breadth of stuff.

I once bumped into a group of Irish girls at the bar and I told them I loved their TV shows and they said "Oh, let me guess Top Gear / Dowton Abbey?" like they had heard it a dozen times before. I told them I watched Skins and Father Ted. Then we quoted Father Ted and argued over the best cast of Skins.

When you cold approach a girl what breadth of knowledge do you bring to the table to relate to who she is? Hell, name something and I will probably have done it or know something about it.

I've been able to apply and adapt what I learned in each different situation

And how many situations have you actually been in? It sounds like you're not old enough for the bars. So that crosses a massive number of situations off the list. You've listed study groups, smoke forest, dorm rooms and lobbies.

That's why I also work on being able to cold approach any girl in any situation

And you're adding to your future baggage. When you do go out to the bars expect to be shot down. You're going to be 'that guy that hit on me freshmen year'. Expect any girl that turns down your cold approach to tell 5 of her friends. It's like negative interest rate. I've seen it a dozen times before and I'll see it a dozen again. You may not think you're setting yourself up for future failure but cold approaching freshmen girls never ends well.

Meanwhile I have 'creepy old' Asian seniors that were good friends with HB9-10 freshmen because they were doing something cool and didn't even try to hit on them (He was the 'weird kid' playing DDR in the lobby). He was pretty asexual but it paid off for all of his friends. He thought it was hilarious when he was out with his freshmen girl friends (years later) and some guy tried to cold approach them. It's the same reason girls like gay men. They know they're 'safe' with them. (And why it works the opposite way with Lesbians and straight men).

How many house parties have you been to with HB9-10s that played strip beer pong? There's nothing quite like meeting a future kindergarten teacher topless.

It's why listening to guys in their younger 20s talk about this is entertaining because they haven't seen the negative payout yet. It may never come if you're in a larger city but if you're on a college campus you're in for a bad time in a few years. Meanwhile being an altruistic nice guy / 'big brother' to multiple different cliques of girls only takes a month or so at most to start paying dividends.

I've gone to Chicago on big party weekends and randomly run into 'friends' I haven't seen in 10 years. If you're 'the dude' that hit on them freshmen year in study they're going to not even show their face. If you're the guy that nicely walked them back from the Frathouses and never tried to put a move on them you're golden. And if you haven't run into her in 10 years and she's still single and still on the CC you're in for a great night.

I doubt most women can distinguish PUA guys on Carlos' level.

They can. We all can. It's both sad and pathetic. What does Carlos or any of the other PUA or TRPers trying to sell you? I have nothing to sell. No youtube channel to push, no website to subscribe to. How many takes do you think those videos took?

I'm not saying it doesn't work. It does (Video shows it). It's just that it has a low success rate. You end up alienating a lot of women. (And putting them in a bad mood for the rest of the day).

"smoke forests" (its like a weekly mini festival on campus for stoners to smoke and socialize).

And if you're anywhere near Georgia/TN the last weekend in July I have a social event similar that will put that to shame. And the only way to win there is to be a nice guy because PUA and Chad's are a dime a dozen.

You may think the cold approach is doing you good now but unless you're 100% certain you're in a scenario where you will never run into those women again it's going to end up coming back to bite you in the ass long term.

ILU2 · 1時間前

You don't have more skills than I do

I can pretty much guarantee not. And I'm not just talking about office & business skills. If TRPer's "So you're a boring fuck" is any indication of the average TRPer. When was the last time you made a raux? Used an Arduino PID controller to smoke meat? Rebuilt your own car? Rebuilt your own house (You do own, right?) Started a fire with a fire piston?

I have software engineer | solid command of computer science principles

So not real engineering. Get back to me when you actually take some high level real engineering courses.

probably should have worked hard and gone to Stanford where you would have actually learned real stuff.

Oh god, we hated working with guys from Stanford (and MIT). They could tell you the most detail theory behind how to tie your shoes but couldn't actually do it. I've worked with MIT and Stanford grads that couldn't change their own oil. When you got those guys into a test cell they shut down because some small parameter of the test went out of bounds and their theory fell apart.

That's where 9/10 times a company that actually builds stuff would rather have a good ole Midwestern school grad. Purdue, Wisconsin Madison, Michigan, Michigan Tech, Illinois, ^The Ohio State... It's why companies that actually build hardware usually recruit there heavily.

I have seen teens around here that are absolutely killing it.

And how many of them compared to the actual population? Other than the next John Carmack how many of them will actually come out ahead at 40?

is inconceivable to you that people much younger than you are more successful than you, so you rationalize that by making excuses as to why that must not be so.

I never said it was inconceivable. I just don't think anyone selling those T-shirts is doing it.

A few million dollars would be a considered a failure by any reasonable small company, let alone a household name.

It's a Fortune 50 company. I'm sure you've passed something we've made in the last day. Also, reread what I said: bought a few million dollars in hardware that your software made run. I didn't say I it made a few million dollars. I said that my software runs on equipment that costs more than you'll make in a lifetime. We actually make physical things. Physical things need software. It's not some video game that no one will remember in 2 years. It's stuff that will likely outlive you and your family (because it's designed to last that long).

I would probably learn how to build a real-time OS

I have better things to do than rewrite stuff it's cheaper to pay Wind River for. If you're writing RTOSes you're making the hammer I use to get actual home construction done.

Unless there's some benefit to being fat and unattractive that I might have missed.

I'd be willing to wager I'm more fit than you are. But I can't seem to get TRPers to ever play a game of put up or shut up to save their lives. And I never claimed to be attractive.

Let me ask your trophy wife.

What do you want to ask?

ifelsedowhile · 2時間前

I'm deep in a conversation with a self-proclaimed incel right now and I completely agree with what you're saying.

You're doing better than I can. No matter what I've said to him he always has an excuse.

user6580 · 2時間前

It's the best bang for your buck. But if you really don't want to lift, you don't have to.

It's not. The gains are disproportionate to the time consumed. You'd be better off doing any number of other things. I already went over this with someone else, with medical citations. There are also plenty of those that combine fitness and co-ed socializing.

I would go climbing with HB9 girls because I was the only one that wanted to drive the hour to the climbing wall. Most of the guys they knew rather spent their time lifting. That's 2 hours in the car socializing and 2 hours belaying for them. And when I ran into them at the bars later I didn't have to do a cold approach.

No shit, that's basic TRP advice on socializing.

Not any socializing I've ever seen them offer. Especially when none seem to understand how to be friends with women (or lesbians).

Sure, if the guy doesn't want to fuck her, then he's free to just be friends. Your way just seems to take a while.

It has more startup time (but can be done in a month if pressed, or a weekend if really pressed) but pays much better in dividends. TRPers are playing the lottery with their time. 10 cold approaches and they may get 2-3 hits? And how many of those convert? I invest my time. It's like saving for retirement. I put a lot of upfront 'nice guy' sunk costs (time) into becoming friends with a lot of women in a lot of different social groups. Then when you hit a good break even point you can start collecting interest.

At that point it takes nothing more than going out to _______ with your female friends, them running into a 2-3rd degrees of friends (and one lower your female friend's social hierarchy than you). It's easier than anything I've ever seen TRP suggest.

Even then you can still do 'cold' approaches, you just let your female friends do it. 5 girls sitting at a table in a karaoke bar. A single guy walks up and you may have a 10% chance of getting a seat. A girl walks up and asks if her 'and her friend' can have a seat. Table of women give her a pussy pass and you get brought in as the friend. Rather than cold buying some table you don't know a drink you've already talked to them for an hour. You offer your friend a drink and then ask if anyone else wants something if she says yes. Their guard is already let down.

Under the normal TRP cold approach the girls are going to throw up their guards. (Except for the ones just wanting to get laid, and they are out there). Girls already know they shouldn't accept drinks from strangers they don't get delivered or handed from the bartender (and even then, you never know). Buying random girls drinks only works on the ones dumb enough to accept drinks from strangers.

It's the Bonnie and Clyde of cold approaches. And if your friend is a HB8 lesbian there is guaranteed someone at the table for at least one of you. But you do it by being altruistically nice with your friend and to the table. Even if the investment doesn't yield returns that night the next time you're in the same social setting you only need to run into one of the women at the table that night and you repeat the cycle. Within 2 months you're already 4-5 degrees from your original friend you go out with without having done a single cold approach. Compounding interest pays off.

I've also been on the other end of it. I'll be sitting at a table of girls (since I'm their friend) and a guy will come up and try to cold approach them or pretend he's my friend. Everyone looks around the table like "Does anyone know this guy" and we either bolt or give him the cold shoulder.

And once you're at that table of all girls you know what the chatter is. There is almost always one that is just out to get laid. All the girl friends at the table know it. I know it. But what every single other girl (and my self) at that table does is direct them towards our other friends. The guy that's from Math class that's pretty cool. Not the cold approach TRPer.

Like I said, the only women you get with TRP methodology is the only people TRP methodology would have worked on in the first place. There is an entire demographic of girls that play the smart game and don't deal with cold approaches or anything else I've seen TRP suggest.

You got nothing to offer in terms of clear, precise advice explaining interactions, flirting, escalation, etc.

I have plenty to offer, you haven't asked a direct question yet. (But I expanded greatly on my approach to most scenarios above). One of these days I'll get around to writing my magnum opus of complete TRP theory without TRP methodology but I have plenty of other more important stuff for now.

Just like the 'camping' scenario already has clear straight forward rules that only apply to it and it only. (Especially with the extremely compressed timeframe). What do you want explained about interactions? Flirting? Escalation? Give me a clear scenario of where you think each would apply. There are hundreds of millions of different setups and scenarios that need context to give advice about. There is no 'one size fits all' of "clear, precise advice". You can't write in articles upon articles about a generic approach. Especially when people don't understand the difference between 'being a nice guy' and 'being a door mat'. And it can be done without doing it the TRP methodology.

One of the big pieces of advice is I would say ignore 'bros' and trying to befriend straight girls. The lesbians are one of the big things I and TRPers have a big discrepancy on.. I can give a thousand reasons as to why too.

Only shitty PUA get cockblocked by you.

No, they all do. Especially when they didn't take friends' engagement rings as a firm no.

pakleader · 3時間前

The strict control over female sexuality that our society had led to the creation of the traditional family unit. Women were forcefully bound to man and men in turn had the obligation to provide for and protect their family. Now no one gives a fuck.

"what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

Proper parenting no longer exists.

Plenty of proper parenting exists. Perhaps you didn't get it. Perhaps your friends didn't get it. But a lot of us got it. It's why there is 'obvious' stuff about TRP. People complain and complain that they didn't learn the 'obvious' stuff because they were never taught it. The reason it's 'obvious' to a lot of us is because we got proper parenting.

Men abandoning their children isn't even a big deal in the eyes of society.

Because it's not a problem? You think like this is the first generation to grow up with out dads. How many men do you think came back from WWII? Vietnam? How many people have been 'going out for cigarettes' for decades? Men abandoning their family isn't anything new.

user6580 · 4時間前

Well in my 22 years of growing up blue pill I never witnessed anything resembling the sort.

Well that certainly explains a lot.

user6580 · 4時間前

If nice guy routines are getting you laid you're fucking sluts.

Except not at all.

If you want to bang a chick, like now, you have to be an asshole.

Or not.

ILU2 · 4時間前

Keep white knighting. Did GLO get you laid once? "Give" you free access to his consultation?

DStoo · 5時間前

Edit: So I've apparently been banned from TheBluePill. I guess /u/gaylubeoil and /u/ciswhitemaelstrom couldn't take the bad press.

no one could truly the that deluded

Have you met most TRPers 'in charge'? The 'leaders' of the rest of the herd?

ILU2 · 5時間前

I can't see your comment over your blinding white armor.

user6580 · 5時間前

Why does TRP advocate lifting? Here you go. Enjoy.

If only you could get all of those without lifting.. wait, you can.

What is it called if he isn't a PUA?

It's called cold approaching. It's a PUA tactic and it's why girls automatically have their defense shields up.

Is she an engineering woman though?

Chemical.

How does it suck to not be friendzoned and wait for shit to happen to me?

Because it's not 'being friendzoned'. It's having a social life.

Cooking bacon on a grill and setting up tents seem only applicable to outdoor festivals/group camping environments.

Because I only described the approach for that event.

Befriending women and waiting to be introduced to their friends doesn't seem like an adaptable tactic, especially if you want to pursue women without befriending her friends first.

Because you don't sit and wait to be introduced to their friends. You have your own social life and you just get introduced to new people all the time. It's not like you stalk one woman and try to befriend her friends just to get introduced.

ILU2 · 5時間前

You're pretty hung up on how much money other people make when you're a cab driver.

6 figure cab driver. Not doing too shabby.

I still like how GLO has this many people white knighting for him. It's like he can't speak up for himself.

ILU2 · 5時間前

I am not. I am STEM.

Internal Medicine.

DStoo · 6時間前

Edit: So I've apparently been banned from TheBluePill. I guess /u/gaylubeoil and /u/ciswhitemaelstrom couldn't take the bad press.

Did you expect less?

user6580 · 7時間前

What is your obsession with lifting?

You tell me what TRP's obsession with lifting is. Mention you don't lift on TRP or the TRP IRC channel. See how well that goes. TRPers are the one that have a problem looking

Not everyone waits like you to be introduced to women

Sounds like you don't know enough people.

The women of PPD has said they wouldnt be able to tell Carlos was a PUA from his "friendliness, tone of voice, demeanor" in that video.

The women of PPD also said: "There is not enough footage to judge. It's a teaser to advertise his product on how he did it. To be honest he came across just friendly and gay."

especially when you say to pursue engineering women,

I said I've pursued engineering women, among others.

who are not exactly stunners.

Oh yes, many ugly. Would not bang. 1/10. By all means, show us the hotties you're landing.

So if your advice is to get into the friendzone with women, wait for them to introduce you to their friends, I'm not interested in that.

Sucks to be you then.

RP methodology is perfectly fine and you can adapt it to your situation and who you're pursuing, which I haven't seen from your "alternatives".

So you're saying I don't or can't adapt?

ILU2 · 7時間前

no real person actually lives actually lives he described life

Again in English?

ILU2 · 7時間前

Anyone who says that Yale, Harvard, or Stanford are "really easy" law schools to get into needs to get his head checked.

You guys really have a hard time with sarcasm don't you? They're the top 3 law schools in the US, of course they're hard to get into.

someone with a distinct lack of success.

Graduated a decade ago. Have a great life and a ton of success. Especially when you toss on top my wife's MD. Together we easily hit the top 5% of take home. (3% by last years tax returns).

What neither of us had was daddy's hand out.

DStoo · 7時間前

No, selling a product. I'm an entrepreneur, not a freeloader.

Sending a text message is not a product.

Of course it is. Packaged and sold. Look buddy, if you don't have the balls to start your own business or the kahonis to see it succeed then that's fine but don't criticize mine. You can play the virtue game all you want but I'm fine with taking the money while you take the virtue. It's like how I bet you've had women walk away because you asked for that consent whereas I got them naked by getting them 10X drunker. You get the consent, I get laid. You get the virtue, I get the money. #redpillvictories

Well then. Can't argue with that logic. Especially getting girls much drunker so they 'consent'.

pakleader · 7時間前

Are there any male-specific issues that you think society should tackle?

Yes, males need to not be raised as man children. Stuff like 'so you're a boring fuck' isn't something that should ever be taught.

Who should tackle them? A men's right advocate? A feminist?

Parents. What ever happened to parents parenting? And if for some reason there isn't availability there is always Boys and Girls Club and Boy Scouts for strong positive male rolemodels.

Should we as a society invest money into creating academics focused on men's rights?

No. But we shouldn't be investing any money in creating any female focused academics either.

Should we as a society invest money into men's advocacy groups?

No. Same reason as above.

ILU2 · 7時間前

Sending a text message is not a product.

DStoo · 7時間前

Edit: So I've apparently been banned from TheBluePill. I guess /u/gaylubeoil and /u/ciswhitemaelstrom couldn't take the bad press.

While having mommy issues.

This just keeps getting better the more I dig.

ILU2 · 7時間前

Business is manufacturing texts for my wealthy clientele where I ask for money.

Ah, I get it. Asking for daddy's money.

And yes, 3% is poverty, comparatively anyways

I can only wonder what you think of GayLubeOil and his ~90^th percentile.

ILU2 · 9時間前

You're digging yourself a hole by living in poverty

... except I'm not in poverty. You haven't been paying attention have you?

instead of starting a business like I did.

Oh, what business is that? This should be good. What does it net annually? (Selling stuff to daddy is not a business).

ILU2 · 10時間前

Don't need to tell anyone You're digging yourself enough of a hole with daddy's handouts.

DStoo

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