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[–]316nuts 289ポイント290ポイント  (6子コメント)

How do you feel about various timelines and other goals that some subreddits have established as a way to keep you "true to your word"?

How will you measure success?

What is your time table?

[–]krispykrackers[A] 92ポイント93ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is important.

Those timelines were promised before we had a real plan of action or any internal dialogue. There's no good way to say this, but they are not reasonable and have given you guys some false hope. We want to do these things but we don't want to ship out crappy products either. Mainly, modmail is going to take a lot of time. It will not be ready by the end of the year.

We also need to discuss tool priorities with you guys. For example, if brigading isn't what you think should be a top priority, maybe we don't construct those tools first? I think once these questions are answered, we can start coming up with some realistic timelines.

*Edit, to be clear, I don't mean that we won't have new features until the end of the year. I think it's reasonable to be able to expect smaller features rapidly. I just wanted to stress that, for modmail specifically since it was addressed over the weekend, an end-of-the-year promise is unrealistic and not going to happen.

[–]itsmyotherface 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

So what are you going to do when you are faced with sub shutdowns, again? And I think this time people are willing to strike until you get off your ass and actually accomplish something rather than make empty promises.

[–]krispykrackers -19ポイント-18ポイント  (3子コメント)

I really hope we don't piss off the community to that extent again, to be perfectly honest. I'd like to have some realistic deadlines soon for specific tools and then actually deliver those tools.

That's an ambitious task, but I think it can be done. I was a moderator for a long time before I got a job here, and both /u/Deimorz and /u/weffey have extensive experience moderating subreddits too. I think we can do this.

[–]itsmyotherface 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problem is that you gave already very angry people deadlines. Ill-advised or not, you gave those dates, and we are counting on them. It reflects very, very poorly on you and anyone else who spouted off those dates without thinking just to calm the moderators. It does not inspire confidence. I personally already had an iffy opinion of the administration, and this shot any confidence I may have had. Giving those dates made me say "Well, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for 3-6 months". Going back on promises in under 48 hours that means you no longer get that.

Why should I trust you?

[–]Donbail 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

So, when the subs shutdown again in 3-6 months because you have just admitted to making empty promises(again), whats the plan of action? Make more empty promises?

Yep, seems pretty typical.

[–]DrBabyManPhD -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was a moderator for a long time before I got a job here

You were probably also a cunt for a long time before you got a job there.