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[–]PantsOfAwesome 10ポイント11ポイント  (51子コメント)

I have an honest question for you. Is it hard to stay so positive with all of the negativity towards you?

Other than that, it's good to see that you give a shit about reddit's community. You're getting there.

[–]ekjp[S,A] -13ポイント-12ポイント  (50子コメント)

Here's my honest answer: Of course. But there are a lot of people who have been super supportive with thoughtful PMs and comments, and they make a huge difference.

[–]BeHereNow91 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

You'll find that this community is forgiving and forgetful if you make the right move from here on. Reddit has had a witch hunt many times before, only for it to be forgotten the next week.

[–]Telemachussneezed 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Forgotten? Son, we still invoke saydrah.

[–]Cylinsier 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time...a long time...

[–]ImmaRussian 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I read the redditHistory on Saydrah, but it doesn't really present a clear picture; what exactly was the dispute over and why did everyone hate her?

[–]Telemachussneezed 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

She boasted on her resume that she could get anything on the front page. She banned someone while allowing others through. Then she bitches to xx, and she was basically just arrogant and cunty. The hive mind went frothy and burned the witch.

[–]armdrag2youback 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It might be forgotten but that doesn't change her history or extensive highly questionable behavior outside of reddit (suing her former employer for made up gender discrimination charges to pay her gay husbands debt he accumulated robbing firefighter pensions)

Just because reddit is circle jerking doesn't mean what they are saying is wrong, when major news outlets like Bloomberg report on how shady you are you lose a lot of plausible deniability

[–]PantsOfAwesome -1ポイント0ポイント  (39子コメント)

Reddit can be really damn hateful sometimes, but seeing that you're taking the time to apologize and reply to nearly every comment in this thread is definitely a step in the right direction to getting the reddit team back on track. Contrary to what a lot of others will say, you really do seem like you genuinely care about what's happened recently.

[–]your_mind_aches 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

I really respect and admire her for braving this storm. If it was me, I would probably already be in the wind. Or at the very least have someone else make this announcement.

I shot her a PM when the FPH crap was going down and she actually responded. It felt pretty nice that I could spread some kind of positivity no matter how small. I just hope the rest of Reddit can help do the same.

[–]Reichland -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

This swing in the hivemind is pathetic. A few soulless corporate non-responses and suddenly the cool kids love Ellen and the haters are a neckbeard lynch mob. How easily you are flattered.

[–]Bowbreaker 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Corporations aren't soulless though. They are made of many souls. Most of them get paid to make more money for other souls which hold the shares. Such is the American way.

[–]DigitalMindShadow -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think we can all agree that there's no such thing as a literal soul, the way it's meant in religious belief systems, i.e. as some sort of non-physical essence of a person.

That said, the way you're using the word is very different than the way the person you're responding to used it.

You seem to be using "soul" as synonymous with "person." You're correct, of course, that corporations are composed of groups of people, and it follows that corporations aren't inherently evil – the ethics of a given entity's actions depends on the aggregate behavior of those people.

In contrast, "soulless" in the post your responded to referred not to human beings, nor even to corporations categorically, but to the character of certain statements that were made by reddit's admins in their official capacity. It was used as an adjective, synonymous with something like "callous" or perhaps "issue-dodging," not as a noun synonymous with "person."

So while I agree with your sentiment that business entities are not necessarily all monolithic, uncaring entities, the way you responded to the above post is equivocal, and it fails to address the point that was being made: that despite the few positive PR moves in response to the latest crisis, we shouldn't ignore the deeper issues underlying the apparent problems in reddit's upper management.

[–]Ls777 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The haters were "a neckbeard lynch mob" from the beginning, it's just a handful of you are beginning to realize how retarded you are being

[–]armdrag2youback -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it's any consolation more than likely this thread is heavily manipulated

[–]koproller 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

You know whats really shocking?
Reddit didn't change and she is apologizing for a culture within reddit that started far before she became CEO.

[–]armdrag2youback -4ポイント-3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I love how people just ignore her borderline criminal behavior and her husbands outright criminal behavior and make this all about "she changed a feature or policy"

She is a disgusting criminal just because she is playing the PR game doesn't change that

[–]koproller 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, yeah, I don't give a fuck what her husband did or what they say he did.
Also, what did she do that's borderline criminal?

[–]AnOnlineHandle 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

She's a criminal? What has she been charged with?

Many people are having a huge cry about how she's apparently destroying reddit, because a rule about not posting personal information for witchhunts which has been enforced for years before Pao took over was again enforced against FPH, like that's somehow some change in direction or evil act by her.

[–]DigitalMindShadow -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are plenty of people who engage in criminal behavior who are never charged with a crime. Hell, most crimes are never prosecuted. I've only been awake for 2 hours so far today and I can already think of several laws that I've broken.

As for Pao, this community's allegations of her are pretty well documented elsewhere, so it's not necessary to repeat them here.

[–]AnOnlineHandle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you're saying that she's a known criminal, but nobody's pressed charges? Can you explain which law she's broken?

[–]Rock_Strongo 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

TIL 40 out of 19556 is "nearly every comment"

[–]grawk1 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Obviously if she really cared about reddit she would have created a pocket universe where time flows x10,000 slower from which she could have responded to all of them within 10 seconds of being posted. The fact that she failed to do this shows that she is Satan incarnate and personally responsible for the holocaust, the plague and the massacres of Genghis Khan.

[–]jacls0608 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you stupid? Reread the comment he replied to.

She's at like a 0.002 percentage for the comments she's responded to.

[–]AnOnlineHandle -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

How dare she not!

"Ellen Pao refuses to break the laws of time, reddit justice warriors outraged."

[–]fursoccer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly I'm baffled by the apologize response, it just seems like such a passive action.

I would of liked a sort of I;m tired of the mysognistic reponses, and a sort of what do we stand for at reddit and how individuals who openly attack others, should leave.

I understand the two issues mods, and general posters distate for the ceo. The new future plans was an appeasement to the mods, but the general hostility to the ceo, would be better handled with a rebuke. Instead of the sort of stoic face, act which is being played.

[–]lolzergrush -4ポイント-3ポイント  (5子コメント)

I like how everyone believes this is really her. You guys crack me up.

[–]tetelesti 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

After the last few days, I don't think they'd risk having someone else comment in her place. Think about what would happen if reddit found out.

[–]lolzergrush 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But how would we know?

I suppose we could get Victoria to verif...oh never mind.

Seriously, there is so much money riding on spin control at this point, it's absolutely ludicrous to think that they wouldn't hire people to help analyze exactly which comments to respond to and how to produce the desired effect (which is clearly working).

[–]AnOnlineHandle -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah I mean, she's only a founder of reddit who has been using the same account for years to talk about her kids, family, diet, places she went to school - total fake account all elaborately planned for today.

Conspiracy nutters are fucking embarrassing, go to voat.

[–]lolzergrush 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Despite your condescending tone, it might have been interesting to dialogue about this. However you completely invalidate any argument you might make and come across sounding like a caustic, bitter asshole with your hyperbole. You're putting absurdly exaggerated words in my mouth with the suggestion that the entire account and years of history on reddit have anything to do with it.

All I'm suggesting is that this is standard PR rather than sincere engagement. When you have millions of dollars riding on the line, the rules are a little bit different from someone sitting at home wasting their free time on their computer.

[–]AnOnlineHandle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

However you completely invalidate any argument you might make

Nope, my point is clear as day, the soundness of an arguments is not decided by how nice you judge the person to be. It doesn't get 'invalidated', by - ironically - lack of PR style talk.

The whining coming from somebody who honestly just suggested a vast reddit conspiracy to maintain that account for years to be prepared for secret PR today. Stop QQing and just admit that what you said was silly.

[–]doggiebowlracecarcat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually want to elaborate and say that i do not know you, so it would be foolish of me to have a personal problem with you. HOWEVER, anyone can see, objectively, that the actions/general state of malaise that is the administration of reddit, including you, is absolutely ridiculous. there wouldn't be a need for your half sincere apology if the administration had taken time to have anything to do with the community, whatsoever. it really only makes it worse when you only use your account and reach out to the community when you're doing damage control. This website needs a major change in a positive direction, otherwise it is bound to diggdom in the next couple years.