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[–]agentlame 179ポイント180ポイント181ポイント 20時間 前 (30子コメント)
There's lots of very low hanging fruit in toolbox that is both simple to add to reddit and really should be native to the platform. Just one example of something simple is built in analytics for spam fighting: http://i.imgur.com/jntiFzw.png or mass/bulk actions on mod queue pages: http://i.imgur.com/BXlDB1d.png
It's not like you guys need to deliver super huge projects to make progress. I could name 10 things in toolbox that would each take less than a week to make native to reddit.
[–]krispykrackers 38ポイント39ポイント40ポイント 20時間 前 (29子コメント)
Yeah, I think it's pretty reasonable to be able to expect smaller changes rapidly. I didn't mean to sound like nothing would get done by the end of the year. I'll put an edit in my initial comment.
[–]jij 37ポイント38ポイント39ポイント 19時間 前 (2子コメント)
Perhaps you guys should set up a public feature/milestone tracker? It would be nice to see what's prioritized... I see on https://github.com/reddit/reddit/ you guys only have 2 branches and zero tags. Push up some feature branches so we can watch the commits and see what's being worked on!
edit: although a milestone tracker is really best, since not everyone knows how to work with github... and it forces you to design out and think-through your features too!
[–]amped2424 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 16時間 前 (0子コメント)
Or maybe they should hire some better coders because right now the site functions like a high school group project put it together
[–]caadbury [スコア非表示] 38分 前 (0子コメント)
Which would fall squarely in line with their touted commitment to transparency.
[–]rabbitlion 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 19時間 前 (21子コメント)
But, in reality it's likely that nothing will have been done by the end of the year. What happens then?
[–]sirbruce 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 18時間 前 (0子コメント)
They'll have people in place so when the mods of the big money-making subreddits blackout, they'll just replace them.
[+]krispykrackers スコアが基準値未満のコメント-20ポイント-19ポイント-18ポイント 19時間 前 (19子コメント)
Getting /u/Deimorz on my team full-time has given me a lot of confidence that that's not going to happen. He's an amazing engineer, and more importantly, he has deep understanding of how reddit works, the community, and moderation. He grew /r/games and created AutoModerator long before he even worked here. He was made for this.
[–]rabbitlion 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 19時間 前 (17子コメント)
Perhaps you're right, he seems like the right guy for the job. That is, assuming he's given the right mandate. This sort of complete non-delivery that has been happening over the last few years is rarely a software development issue, it's a management issue. I would hate to believe that the previous developers working at reddit were completely unable to implement these fairly simple features.
I seem to be rambling, so to get to the point: Will Deimorz be dedicated to working on features for moderators and users of www.reddit.com rather than one of the countless side projects that no one asked for?
[–]Deimorz 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 19時間 前 (12子コメント)
Yes, my job is now basically "implement things that the moderators need". What we'll need to figure out next is how exactly we're going to decide which things to do, and in what order.
[–]I_AM_STILL_A_IDIOT 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 18時間 前 (2子コメント)
This is good news. Your knowledge is a huge asset to reddit (thanks for AutoMod!) and I'm glad you are tackling this.
I'd suggest first taking a look at remedying the biggest current complaints, such as:
modmail being utter crap: there's no way to effectively sort messages by their content (say, mod invites versus actual messages), or by their origin subreddit, if they were adressed or not (ticket system!), etc; no way to prevent spamming; no way to search old messages... I mean, most modteams rely on IRC, Skype and other IM programs to talk to one another easily just because modmail blows.
why so many useful functions require /r/toolbox just to make moderating big subs feasible. Please talk to their creators! Things like usernotes that are only visible to mods, automated removal messages and macros, instant notifications of new messages, etc. Sure, toolbox works, but it's ridiculous that it has to be maintained by volunteers just to address glaring flaws in the moderation tools.
Also, PLEASE give regular updates on what is being worked on. This is crucial to help us make something that would work for everyone.
[–]nandhp 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 13時間 前 (1子コメント)
or [sort messages] by their origin subreddit
Actually, you can filter modmail by subreddit, e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/EarthPorn/message/moderator/inbox
[–]I_AM_STILL_A_IDIOT 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 9時間 前 (0子コメント)
True but an overview of where new and unread modmail is would be golden. Like a list with Earthporn (3) | JapanPics (2) and so on.
[–]karmalizing 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 10時間 前 (2子コメント)
Please run stuff by /u/Raldi when you're at a crossroads, he's clutch.
[–]raldi 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 10時間 前 (1子コメント)
If I may spend a bit of my crowd appeal, then please allow me to use it to ask everyone to ease up on the admin downvoting in this thread -- I mean, if they actually post a comment that's stupid or differently-tarded, sure, go right ahead. But I'm seeing a lot of negative scores on comments that don't deserve it, and that's not how you accept the olive branch they're so clearly extending. They're coming to you with their hats in their hands; meet them halfway.
P.S. I like mixed metaphors.
[–]nallen 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 18時間 前 (0子コメント)
Could I ask you to give the mods updates on a reasonable basis?
While there may be a trust issue with others, I think all of us trust you.
[–]Chtorrr 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 16時間 前 (0子コメント)
That's amazing.
[–]Unikraken 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
Yes, my job is now basically "implement things that the moderators need"
Are you concerned at all that this approach may cause you to burn out. Do you think it'll be fulfilling enough to keep you from looking for greener pastures?
[–]japanesetrapeze -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 17時間 前 (1子コメント)
What you guys need is to make .np links ACTUALLY WORK for goodness sakes, this is a simple fix.
[–]flyryan 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 16時間 前 (0子コメント)
They need to replace np. NP is not a good solution and is a bandaid fix. Reddit should implement its functionality in a way that is usable for users. If they are really bringing brigading tools, I imagine this will be one of the top things there.
[–]rabbitlion -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 18時間 前 (0子コメント)
I'm trying not to be pessimistic here, but what you're saying is that basically you are not going to
and you're not even going to
but rather
Unless I'm missing some subtle sarcasm here it seems like the project will be stuck in the planning phase for quite a while, which is exactly what the problem has been for the last few years if not longer. Too much energy spent trying to figure out what to do and too little energy spent on actually doing things.
[+]krispykrackers スコアが基準値未満のコメント-23ポイント-22ポイント-21ポイント 19時間 前 (3子コメント)
Will Deimorz be dedicated to working on features for moderators and users of www.reddit.com rather than one of the countless side projects that no one asked for?
Yes. I asked for him specifically to be moved to this team 100% because otherwise, any sort of "Mod Advocate" position would hold no actual power to do anything. It was approved.
I also just reaffirmed with Ellen here in person that, indeed, he is 100% dedicated to the community team and feature development.
[–]ImNotJesus 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 17時間 前 (0子コメント)
Once you and /u/Deimorz have had a chance to sit and work out (a) what the priorities are and (b) how long you think things will take do you think you could update us with that information? It really does look like a positive step forward and I'm exciting but we've had "we're working on it" for quite a few years now.
[–]folktaliesin 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 17時間 前 (0子コメント)
Come on guys. Relevant addition to the discussion. It's 100% an answer to what was asked. I can't see how this is being downvoted.
[–]Brimshae 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 9時間 前 (0子コメント)
I also just reaffirmed with Ellen here in person
Sounds like a verbal promise that's worth the paper it's written on.
[–]karmalizing 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 10時間 前 (0子コメント)
This is the first thing that has given hope during this entire fiasco.
KK - I don't think you're a fuckup. I think your bosses are though. Good luck.
[–]Froghurt 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 17時間 前 (0子コメント)
Just a small hint: please make use of /u/agentlame's expertise. He's without a doubt the most influential moderator for coding stuff, he'll be able to tell you what's necessary and might show you how to implement it.
Plus, he's a prominent cabal member.
[–]Lucky75 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 17時間 前 (0子コメント)
User notes are pretty damn useful.
In terms of modmail, isn't it possible for a quick solution to be to just redirect them to another "subreddit"? It seems like most of that infrastructure is in place already.
[–]allthefoxes 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 20時間 前 (0子コメント)
Thanks, I was cofusedededed for a second
[–]redalastor 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 20時間 前 (0子コメント)
Smaller changes quickly as a show of good faith and some kind of progress tracker for the rest?
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