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[–]WhoAteJohnGalt 104ポイント105ポイント  (31子コメント)

Thank you for the honest answer, and people above, please stop downvoting. Just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean you should make it un-readable.

[–]dragonmere 65ポイント66ポイント  (30子コメント)

Sorry. That's how Reddit works.

[–]MannoSlimmins 97ポイント98ポイント  (14子コメント)

Downvotes are (supposed to be) used when something doesn't add to the conversation (See: Reddiquette).

Instead, people downvote when they get butthurt and not get their way.

[–]Okichah 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The downvote/upvote system is flawed for this very reason. You have to work within how people use the system not how you intended for it to be used. Problem is that most of the time the system works, so theres no need to dramatically change it.

Plus i got all these shill accounts on sale from unidan and i've got bills to pay.

[–]Mista_Wong 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

People see them as like and dislike buttons yet complain about Facebook the majority of the time. How funny.

[–]InnocuousUserName 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is imo the biggest problem with reddit right now. Downvotes are just used to express disagreement, hiding the comment, and stifling and conversation that could be productive.

[–]cy_ko8 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's always going to be like that, though. It's been reddiquette from day one, but the vast majority of people who use this site aren't mature enough for the mindset of "I respectfully disagree with you." It's "ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME IS WRONG AND I HATE THEM." This is why reddit has the hivemind reputation that it does.. in very few of the top subs will you ever have anything resembling thoughtful discourse.

[–]Suppafly -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's been reddiquette from day one

No it hasn't.

[–]beenwaitingforthisda 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think, in this case, it's the lie that is being downvoted. And because people view it as a lie it adds nothing to the conversation. In fact, it just muddies the water.

[–]paulmclaughlin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's an is-ought problem.

[–]huitlacoche 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How dare you cite the proper rules and theory behind it. Downvoted, chump.

[–]GnarlinBrando 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or people don't think that the comment says anything new or contributes to the conversation. So many of you operate in bad faith and presume that everyone who is critical or negative is as well.

[–]AnOnlineHandle -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep, they use it to censor posts they don't like, while screaming in hysteria about how pao is apparently censoring people, because rules which have been around and enforced since the beginning of reddit and long before she arrived were enforced again on fph, which was breaking reddit's rules.

[–]RussellLawliet -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except they aren't enforced at GamerGhazi or SubredditDrama.

[–]onlycatfud -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How does saying bullshit, spin and meaningless platitudes or outright lies add to the conversation? I think people are fair enough to downvote mods claiming things that are not true or are just talking.

[–]wickedsun -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah guys, he's right!

Shadowbans is for when you don't agree.

[–]Abedeus -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, shadowbans are supposed to be for dealing with bots.

Guess the admins themselves don't care about rules.

[–]adremeaux 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

No, that's how reddit behaves. According to reddiquette (and I really, really hate quoting reddiquette, but it's relevant in this case), you should not be downvoting people based on opinions.

[–]Suppafly 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Reddiquette is meaningless and isn't going to 'happen'. People use the site how they want to. Take it from someone that has been here a long time, it's never worked how the reddiquette page says it should.

[–]adremeaux 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Take it from someone that has been here a long time

We'll be able to high five the 9 year club together in a few months.

[–]Qingy 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, do you try to make an active effort to follow Reddiquette? Be the change you want to see. I've upvoted ppl I wanted to punch in the face due to their strong arguments (that I disagreed with, of course).

[–]Suppafly -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, do you try to make an active effort to follow Reddiquette?

No, because I disagree with a lot of it. It's an attempt made in the last few years to try and change the behavior of a community that has been around for 10 years.

Be the change you want to see.

I'll continue to do that.

[–]Qingy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dunno, man. I started using Reddit during its early years and the quality of the posts/comments have declined tremendously (which one would expect with the quick surge in users once the Digg exodus happened)... Seems if the users had actually attempted to follow Reddiquette, we wouldn't nearly be in such a cesspool situation. The behavior of the community has long changed in the past 10 years without anyone making an outside effort...

[–]Acetylene 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ironically, the fact that you're being downvoted and the people arguing against you are being upvoted only proves your point. (And I'm one of the people who downvoted you.)

[–]palmer672 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

But downvoting something that is relevant to conversation is counter productive.

[–]Cosmic_Charlie 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, that and the casual racism.

[–]ScienceParadigm 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Actually, its not. Try reading the reddiquette.

[–]ThinKrisps 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually, it is. Try being on reddit. Rules mean nothing when they aren't enforceable.

[–]Qingy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Uh, no it's not. That goes DIRECTLY against Reddiquette.

[–]Se7enLC 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. No it's not.

That's like saying "That's how cars work" when somebody asks you to stop crashing into their mailbox.

[–]dubman42 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah but it needed to be explain to Ms. Pao.