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[–]isiramteal 1470ポイント1471ポイント  (112子コメント)

I had an interaction regarding a shadowban. She was unprofessional and treated me like a child. Never went into depth after requesting her to.

I mod a sub where she's gone into the sub and removed a post without contacting the sub.

[–]giantdeathrobots 277ポイント278ポイント  (95子コメント)

Oh wow, that's pretty immature. And I'm a teenager.

[–]I_Xertz_Tittynopes 209ポイント210ポイント  (26子コメント)

Age does not necessarily equal maturity. I know a lot of adults that shouldn't be allowed to make decisions.

[–]PeteMullersKeyboard 69ポイント70ポイント  (10子コメント)

I know people old enough to retire that still have trouble with things most people learn in grade school...or at least things you'd think most people learn in grade school.

[–]UnPolyglot 85ポイント86ポイント  (6子コメント)

That's one way to call out /u/ekjp

[–]GangreneMeltedPeins 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

Shots fired! PaoPao Down!

[–]i_like_betta_fish 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Get ready to be sued, you just triggered Pao.

[–]midasMIRV 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shadowbans incoming, its all over!

[–]BillyisHere 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

shots fired, paopao pao

FTFY

[–]portajohnjackoff 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Poa, right in the kisser!

[–]EyeAmmonia 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Common sense is bizarrely not.

[–]testmypatience 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Common sense is not common.

[–]rhinocerosbladder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Many adults aren't actually good at being adults.

[–]giantdeathrobots 11ポイント12ポイント  (14子コメント)

Yeah... I'm still pretty dumb though, haha. At least I'm aware of it!

[–]daniell61 21ポイント22ポイント  (13子コメント)

Im a teenager as well.

We don't know the half of our dumbness lol

[–]giantdeathrobots 32ポイント33ポイント  (12子コメント)

Lol ain't that the truth. I cringe at things I did last week. I'm probably gonna cringe at this later.

[–]shitty-analogy 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm cringing at this exchange right now!

[–]giantdeathrobots 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm cringing at the future

[–]KING-PONGofPING-KONG 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cringe fuel can't melt steel fucks.

[–]Chiba211 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm nearly 40, that never ends.

[–]giantdeathrobots 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

oh no

[–]Chiba211 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the bright side, I mostly cringe about things I did in my teens and early 20s. Then again, some of those things lead to good things.

[–]AHCretin 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not from being a teenager, that's from being alive and at least a little self-aware.

[–]Senuf 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're both lovely.

[–]krystalvstheworld 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like to think that when I'm 50 or so I'll be a wise old sage who no longer has the "you're a goddamn retard" moments. Truth is I could live to be 1 million year old and I'd still probably figure out how I was an idiot the century before.

[–]daniell61 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let the cringe fest(ivities) BEGIN!!

And lets hope the odds are not in your favor.

Too soon? Don't worry.

I almost over payed a guy $2K for a motorcycle before realizing it was a POS.

Dont let the wants overcloud you :P

[–]MoansWhenHeEats 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That awareness is a hell of a lot better than the contrary, though

Or maybe it isn't. I don't know, I'm a teenager

[–]AnOnlineHandle 55ポイント56ポイント  (61子コメント)

You... don't even know what she did? The person literally didn't describe any actions, and we only have their incredibly vague side of the story.

[–]ItsObviousYouMoron 38ポイント39ポイント  (14子コメント)

This is the way with Reddit.

While I think Ellen Pao and the reddit admin team have made some monumentally stupid decisions in recent times, it's still the case that 90% of people's apparent problems with her are inaccurate, unevidenced, irrelevant, or poorly understood, and usually all of the above.

Don't question, just get angry. Make your anger and unwillingness to check if you're right to be angry everyone else's problem, and the thing that smashes the community you're blind enough to think you're protecting. That's our way.

[–]birdmanofbombay 17ポイント18ポイント  (6子コメント)

If you think 90 percent of people's apparent problems with her are inaccurate, unevidenced, irrelevant, or poorly understood, then why do you also believe that she and the reddit admin team have made some monumentally stupid decisions in recent times? Their mistakes were monumental, but only deserving of a backlash an entire order of magnitude lower than what we've got right now? I don't see how that makes sense. Did you feel the need to say you are against Pao in some fashion simply because you did not want to attract ire from the people reading this thread?

[–]kilgoretrout71 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's easy to make sense of what that comment says. What I see is that it acknowledges that genuine mistakes have been made, but also says that a lot of the anger and indignation is unfounded, uninformed, or exaggerated. There are comments in this thread, for example, that say such things as 1) Pao didn't apologize personally (not realizing that it was she who personally made the apology), and 2) no specific mistakes were acknowledged in the apology (even though they were).

People are demanding things that make no sense--like an explanation for the firing of Victoria, which nobody has any right to demand except perhaps Victoria. Or the unbanning of FPH, which is a stupid thing to ask for.

There's nothing irreconcilable about saying that actual mistakes were made, and that people's reaction to those mistakes is overblown.

[–]Strill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or the unbanning of FPH, which is a stupid thing to ask for.

Why? It would demonstrate that they're not out to censor anything they arbitrarily deem offensive.

[–]gcfbrain 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd be willing to bet there's no response from them :P

[–]MyPunsSuck -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You seem well trained in litigation

[–]ItsObviousYouMoron -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I recognise that 10% of what she's accused of is stuff she probably did.

Im not trying to be a jerk, but I'm really honestly struggling to work out how you misinterpreted it.

[–]internetUser0001 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you raise a lot of good points, but also everything you said was utterly wrong and worthless.

See? It's easy.

[–]PoorPolonius 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

In some circles they call this "mob mentality". Coincidentally it also killed a lot of black people in the US over the years, and a few French aristocrats.

[–]fredrodgers 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't forget the Tsars.... and the Chinese (they went to Taiwan), and the Philippines, and the Cambodians, and the south Vietnamese, and 38 million other Russians, and the Jews, and someday someone will admit the Palestinians, and the Armenians, and the Bosnian/Serbs, and the hutus, and apparently still killing black people, and and and and and and and and and and and and and ........................................................................................................................

[–]ItsObviousYouMoron 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Showed your comment to my colleague who has a doctorate in history:

"This person must have sat outside during high school history."

[–]giantdeathrobots 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I came back and I saw that down voted thread... Whether or not /u/krispykrackers is the spawn of Satan, I think in that situation she did what was right. But there are quite a bunch of people also saying she's bad, and people defending her... man I need to get outside.

[–]ItsObviousYouMoron 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh for sure, and I wasn't criticising you personally.

I think that the general principle is really important: When someone tells you that /u/krispykrackers or Ellen Pao or Adolf Hitler is bad, until you have a good idea WHY you should think they're bad, and you've done some checking to make sure that your good idea of why is actually reasonable and sensible and fact-based, you shouldn't be drawing any conclusions at all.

If people were willing to do that, the general theme on Reddit would be, "Hey Ellen, we admire your feminism and your stand against victimisation, but stop being such a fucking moron with the way you manage this site and communicate, and here are our clear issues so that you can constructively fix them" rather than "OMG this crazy hitler bitch cares about fact-based research into social problems and by the way you evil cunt we hope you die in a fire because you did something wrong!"

[–]birdmanofbombay 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If people were willing to do that, the general theme on Reddit would be, "Hey Ellen, we admire your feminism and your stand against victimisation, but stop being such a fucking moron with the way you manage this site and communicate, and here are our clear issues so that you can constructively fix them" rather than "OMG this crazy hitler bitch cares about fact-based research into social problems and by the way you evil cunt we hope you die in a fire because you did something wrong!"

Why would it? You realise that the second sentence is the one that more accurately represents what a lot of people on reddit actually believe.

[–]ItsObviousYouMoron -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

We seem to be accessing different websites. Here:

Www.reddit.com

[–]giantdeathrobots -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're right, I shouldn't judge without knowing the whole story, but she doesn't exactly sound like a saint, haha.

[–]crackadeluxe 40ポイント41ポイント  (1子コメント)

If that is true then /u/krispykrackers should not be considered for the mod advocate.

Reddit should have picked 5-7-12 mods and formed a committee to pick a mod advocate utilizing whatever method the committee saw fit.

[–]nightreader 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

12 mods enter, one mod leaves.

[–]UnholyDemigod 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mod a sub where she's gone into the sub and removed a post without contacting the sub.

Admins do that quite a lot. It's not uncommon. They remove things that break the site's rules, not the subreddit rules.

[–]CaptainJaXon 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Removing a post from a sub without informing its mods is in and of itself not necessarily damning.

[–]LexLugerChantSample 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Have any links or screencaps?

[–]isiramteal -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

below in the downvote hell is a quote

[–]tdb7893 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

you yourself post posted this about your ban. While the judgement is questionable your actions are not really the most mature thing I've ever heard about

[–]i_wanna_be_the_guide 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

thats a pretty shitty act. shame on her.

[–]GaslightProphet 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Care to provide the quotes or conversation in question?

[–]SluttyPhilosopher -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

she

that explains the choice. Pao most likely favors women.

[–]barscarsandguitars 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know her personally and this doesn't sound like her at all. Are you sure it was her? I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just saying that it seems very out of character for her to act in such a way.

[–]Kanikuly -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah sounds like a cunthole to me.

[–]OuO_hello -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hm. What was that post about?

[–]6519849 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, she's CEO and gets paid by the company, whereas you're just a volunteer mod. No offense but you need to stop acting like you own the sub you moderate.