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Video Shows FSU Quarterback DeAndre Johnson absolutely clocking a woman in the face at a bar (deadspin.com)

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[–]nenozer 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

Johnson has been dismissed from the team.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13211988/florida-state-seminoles-qb-deandre-johnson-dismissed-school-video-shows-striking-woman-bar

[–]__dilligaf__ 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had a different opinion after I saw the full video. Also, kudos to the girlfriend who's got her back (or rather, the back of her hair) And I can't be the only one wishing the bartender with the towel over his shoulder had cleaned the blood off the bar before the next customer put their hand in it)

[–]ElasticBandAid 65ポイント66ポイント  (13子コメント)

I don't know about others but I don't punch people when I'm not getting my way. Especially people bigger than me.

Usually doesn't turn out well.

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    [–]MackMizzo 138ポイント139ポイント  (153子コメント)

    Looks to me like she threw the first punch.

    [–]Saintreagan 28ポイント29ポイント  (15子コメント)

    If this were two guys...

    [–]cooltest2 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

    We wouldn't even be hearing about it. The smaller guy should have know better. It was his fault.

    Charge them both or they both walk is what I'm seeing from arm chair. I don't see how they can just charge the guy. He tried to take control of raised fist which to me seems defensive. She decked him and looked like she was going for round two.

    [–]erowidtrance 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Charge them both or they both walk is what I'm seeing from arm chair.

    Only charge her. She hit him first, he acted in self defense.

    [–]LiveCat6 55ポイント56ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Exactly. If this were two guys, the smaller guy wouldn't raise his fist to the bigger guy like that. It's only because she assumed immunity due to the fact that she's a woman.

    [–]ioncloud9 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    She's been watching too much TV where the small woman easily overcomes the jacked up football player.

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          [–]PatrickTulip 210ポイント211ポイント  (180子コメント)

          I watched the full video, and noticed that at 1:53 (after she said something to him that obviously provoked him) she also did something, kinda pushed him aside, then he grabbed her. She punched him and he punched her back.

          Not saying she deserved it, but do women really expect NOT to get hit when they punch a guy?

          [–]bruceville_road 35ポイント36ポイント  (5子コメント)

          Anyone else notice that the bar tender is still making drinks?

          [–]FireFromTheWire 58ポイント59ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Well she did order some punch.

          [–]PastafarianT 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

          0 shits given for pussy privileged sorority girls apparently. Becky got fucking rekt..

          [–]snorlz 115ポイント116ポイント  (45子コメント)

          actually she says something to him while he has his back to her and is trying to get to the bar. When he does, she grabs him and holds up a fist. He grabs her fist and then the punches are traded.

          I dont think he should have done that, but she definitely instigated it and is not blameless

          [–]supersede 165ポイント166ポイント  (43子コメント)

          best video is here

          clearly shows she was another drunk chick who started shit, and he finished it with a vicious right cross.

          • :07 - he's trying to squeeze into the bar. super common bar scenario.
          • :08-10 - she says something to him, who knows what
          • :11-14 - other girl moves back, he moves up to squeeze in, you can see tuff girl push her shoulder out
          • :15-17 - tuff girl is clearly talking shit and has her fist raised threatening to punch him in the face
          • :18 - deandre goes for wrist control to avoid getting beaned.
          • : 19-22 - bit of a struggle, tuff girl breaks other hand free and goes for a jab, skims his left cheek.
          • : 22-23 - right cross to the dome

          sucks to see a chick get beaned like that but man people need to realize there are physical risks when you assault someone and start throwing punches. especially in a bar where judgement is severely impaired due to alcohol.

          sickening to see the news just crop out all the shit that happened before hand, and playback from :20-23. because that's certainly the whole story. way to go news.

          [–]Atruen 11ポイント12ポイント  (12子コメント)

          Is that bartender wearing overalls?

          [–]portajohnjackoff 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          are you matlock?

          [–]Silverkarn 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

          Not just overalls, but "shorts overalls".

          I don't know what else to call them. "Overall Cutoffs" maybe?

          [–]Nasawolf 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

          FSU alum here, in all fairness this might of taken place and "white trash wednesday" at the strip.

          [–]chriser80229 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Fuckin' Florida fashion statements.

          [–]PastafarianT 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

          Jesus, Becky got fucking rocked.

          [–]KlaatuBrute 23ポイント24ポイント  (3子コメント)

          She took that punch like a champ though.

          [–]iSanddbox 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

          She was probably too drunk to feel most of the pain.

          [–]ILikeMyDogNotYours 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It honestly looked like a pimp slap to me.

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            [–]cocktailsanddreams 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Only arrest that needs to be made here is the bartender in dungarees

            [–]mugsybeans 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Wow, I think she shares the majority of the blame there. She totally instigated that.

            [–]nashkara 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Even from the truncated clip my first reaction was "She punched him first, game on!" Having seen the full clip this is a case of media smearing as she 100% deserved what she got.

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              [–]iREDDITandITsucks 66ポイント67ポイント  (3子コメント)

              As /r/streetfights would say, "equal rights, equal lefts".

              [–]OssiansFolly 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I know this won't be a popular statement, but c'mon you can't expect to hit someone and not be hit back. I was taught to never hit girls, but realized later in life that the line was a load of bullshit. Women walk around like they can't be touched and then scream feminism when they are treated differently. He squeezed in to get a drink, she clearly threatened him, he grabbed her to tell her it was a bad idea, and she hit him in the face. What exactly did she think the outcome would be?! I'd have cold clocked her as well!

              [–]riptaway 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Seriously? Of course women expect guys to do nothing in response to getting hit. Because when a guy hits a girl, regardless of the reason why, 10 other guys will often jump in and beat the shit out of him. I've physically restrained girls before, and I'd be willing to hit a girl if she hit me, but I probably wouldn't just because of that. Most you can do is try and stop them from hurting you, but even that's risky. Better hope there isn't some white knight bro around who thinks he's superman coming to the defense of a damsel in distress

              [–]Kush_back 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I grew up with mostly male relatives...had male roommates..I'm not one to start any confrontation with a dude unless I know I can take the punch. I've handled myself before fighting a guy, when I was younger. I don't fight people now, better to just walk away, no need for things to get there.

              [–]8483RENE 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Nah, she deserved it.

              [–]Coogcheese 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

              It looks more like an open hand slap he got her with. A fast, powerful one, but to me it does not look like a 'punch'.

              [–]Gogothewizard 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

              It is exactly what she expected. She was mistaken.

              [–]BloodyBrownHole 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

              aka /r/pussypassdenied

              [–]ioncloud9 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

              We he is the one the prosecutor is going after, not her. So there is some pussy pass there.

              [–]njskypilot 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I see this happen all the time....woman punches man, man instinctively responds and punches woman. Problem is, in the courts women have a pussy pass and are able to assault men without fear of consequences. Men are expected to just take women's physical abuse. Ray Rice was physically assaulted three times before he had enough and it was lights out for his now wife. It cost him his career for one incident. Women feel they can physically assault men because they know they can get away with it. This guy has a tough road ahead of him as the courts are biased.

              [–]lordthat100188 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

              I dont blame him for it at all. If you dont want to be hit, then dont hit people. I dont care how much smaller you are, battery is battery.

              [–]MulderD 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

              She says something, bumps him, says more stuff, then cocks he fist... at which point he grabs the wrist which she has primed to swing at him. Then she throws a punch with the other hand, misses and he goes into straight 'react' mode. He 100% should not have responded that way and in world is it appropriate. But, he reacted to an act of violence set upon him. I can see how and why this all went down the way it did, and how to stupid people just seriously fucked each other over.

              [–]stan11003 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

              That's why he is charged with a misdemeanor. It sucks that he loose any chance at the NFL and have that show up in background checks everytime he looks for a job.

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                [–]NoGoddamnNamesLeft 12ポイント13ポイント  (39子コメント)

                she held her fist up like she was going to hit him, then he grabbed her arm, then she hit him. This is where he should have either talked to security or called the cops.

                Honestly, if I was in that situation and a woman raise her first to me, I'd grab her arm too, but I wouldn't punch her in the face. I've been hit by drunk obnoxious women before and believe me, there have been times where I thought she deserved to get decked, but I'm not the guy that's going to do it.

                Some women think they can fuck with guys (and girls) and hit them and expect not to get hit back and they are very wrong. There was absolutely no need for him to punch her like that, but she didn't exactly make an effort to not provoke someone.

                Just because you're in a crowded bar, doesn't mean you can instigate someone without consequences, there will always be some stupid fuckbag looking for an excuse to punch a chick.

                [–]knatxxx 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

                his is where he should have either talked to security or called the cops.

                Good luck with that one.

                [–]nybbas 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Right? And what, gotten laughed at for "being a pussy"? I mean yeah, in a perfect world that would be great, but also in a perfect world, crazy drunk bitch wouldn't be throwing punches at someone who is going to finish the fight.

                [–]Optionthename 20ポイント21ポイント  (13子コメント)

                Looking for an excuse to punch a chick? Really? She's the aggressor here. Not saying cooler heads shouldn't prevail but at least be honest about the situation.

                [–]nybbas 9ポイント10ポイント  (12子コメント)

                Right? Fuck this. If someone punches you in the face, completely unprovoked, then you have EVERY RIGHT to give them one right back.

                [–]enolja 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

                You have the right, but you don't have the need. Having a cool head goes a long way. In this case, not getting kicked off your team.

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                  [–]OssiansFolly 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Security? The fucking bartenders less than 5 feet away missed the ENTIRE THING. Talk about horrible at your job. Bartenders' job is to have your head on a swivel watching for potential problems at the bar BEFORE they happen. That happened pretty quick, but with the cups flying and the pitcher falling it shouldn't have gone unnoticed.

                  [–]TheSortOfGrimReaper 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  She hit him first... That's is actually the PERFECT reason to hit her like that.

                  [–]Jambox_Ready 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

                  Fuck bitches - rock that dome every time. They need to pipe down their bullshit...I'm sick and tired of men getting the domestic abuse shit when women will say the foulest things and think they will get away with it, push, hit, slap men when drunk and stupid, and then cry like whiney bitches when called out on it.

                  [–]dubs2112 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  You're an idiot. If someone tries to punch you in the face, you have every right to defend yourself and punch them back. It doesn't matter whether it's a male or female.

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                    [–]Year_Of_The_Horse_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    She clearly raises her fist to him, he tries to restrain her, she physically assaults him, and he defended himself with an appropriate level of force.

                    Equal rights, equal lefts.

                    [–]TheSortOfGrimReaper 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    No, she COMPLETELY deserved it.

                    Now she learned never to do that again. Stupid bitch.

                    [–]jordankw -2ポイント-1ポイント  (14子コメント)

                    I started to think the same thing but I noticed that he grabbed her first. He shouldn't have escalated the situation like that.

                    [–]TheSortOfGrimReaper 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    By definition, she assualted him by threatening to hit him. Assault is merely the threat, where as battery is actual contact.

                    [–]mikey_says 21ポイント22ポイント  (10子コメント)

                    he grabbed her first

                    Watch the full video. She has her fist raised and seems to be threatening to hit him. He grabs her wrist, then she punches with her free hand.

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                        [–]supplepuppies 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Hopefully he didn't tweet anything racist, because that will get you suspended for 2+ years.

                        He should do what Ray Rice did, and marry this girl.

                        [–]Badblackdog 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        The Ray Rice comment was hilarious.

                        [–]dustotepp 56ポイント57ポイント  (21子コメント)

                        Florida's self defense law says:

                        "A person is justified in using or threatening to use force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. A person who uses or threatens to use force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat before using or threatening to use such force."

                        It looks to me like they start trying to get to the bar, and she cocks her right fist and is possibly saying "I'll kick your ass something something" (I'm not much of a lip reader). That is an unlawful threat of the use of force, which makes his grabbing her arm a justifiable use of force. Then she hits him, another unlawful use of force. He punches back hard enough to stop a further assault but not hard enough to cause serious injury (as evidenced by her not being seriously injured) and leaves. That all seems justified to me.

                        That being said, if he was threatening her and she responded to that, the defense would be the other way. It doesn't look that way to me though.

                        [–]cdc194 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Florida Title XLVI Chapter 776.012 apparently doesn't apply when a female is the aggressor.

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                          [–]pensfanfaraway 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          Isn't he 19 and drinking or am I missing something?

                          [–]sfinney2 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          So this reminds me of the Pacman Jones case in Cincinnati where he punched a lady that poured a drink on him. He got off because the lady initiated the assault. I think it will be the same case here since she raised a fist first (the threat of violence counts as initiating the assault). Now he can't respond to that by shanking her with a knife, but a wrist grab and counterpunch in immediate response would likely be considered non-criminal. It did for Pacman, at least.

                          People will conflate this with "it's wrong to punch a woman," but that has little bearing on the criminality of the act from what I've seen. If FSU wanted to suspend him for punching ladies and/or getting into barfights it would certainly be a fair thing to do.

                          [–]BransonBombshell 13ポイント14ポイント  (55子コメント)

                          It's always interesting to me to read the comments after one of these videos. Everyone sees the same thing, but everyone has a different interpretation of it.

                          [–]Lemon-Harang-Pie 25ポイント26ポイント  (52子コメント)

                          No one actually seems to have a different interpretation of the events. They just disagree on whether or not it's ever appropriate to hit a woman hitting you.

                          [–]Zedrackis 24ポイント25ポイント  (34子コメント)

                          As a strong believer in gender equality, she who swings first has declared herself up to the task of the fight she has just picked. As a man, I would not be up to picking a fist fight with a pro league athlete.

                          [–]njskypilot 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Unfortunately the courts are gender bias central where the pussy pass reigns supreme. She is now a "victim" and he is fuct!

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                            [–]braised_diaper_shit 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

                            They just disagree on whether or not it's ever appropriate to hit a woman hitting you.

                            Which are different interpretations. Stop being pedantic.

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                                [–]ProfessorMordred 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                I'm not saying he should have hit her like that but honestly what did she expect to happen? It's really frustrating to see people act like this and expect nothing to happen just because they are something different that deems them as someone who can never be hit even if they start it.

                                [–]SoundBearier 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Making an early bid for the Heisman, I see.

                                [–]CHWK 78ポイント79ポイント  (137子コメント)

                                It appears that she hits him 1st - equal rights and all.

                                [–]utuxia 26ポイント27ポイント  (51子コメント)

                                you gotta wonder. does self defense only apply if the attacker is a man?

                                [–]joshuads 17ポイント18ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                does self defense only apply if the attacker is a man?

                                No, but you generally have to believe that your use of force was necessary to prevent the others physical harm to you. Tough to argue that as a football player.

                                [–]yourenotserious 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Right. Some people can punch strangers and some can't.

                                [–]SomRandomGuyOnReddit 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                She hit him, yes? He hit her back, yes? Did it end it? Yep.

                                [–]shapu 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                She could have had a bottle or a glass tumbler.

                                withdrawn

                                [–]joshuads 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                Her hands were empty. She did actually hit him, and she did the same so I may not even get charged, but it may depend on what Florida laws say about escalation of force.

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                                  [–]diythrow24234 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  She could jam a finger into his eyeball and blind him permanently or have a ring on her finger fist and slash him with severe injuries.

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                                    [–]CHWK 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    I suppose so, also it seems he is 19....wonder if he was "carded" at the door?

                                    My comment is a bit much, he should have by no means hit her but it does appear she is at fault.

                                    [–]Ayuhno 11ポイント12ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                    I think at some point you have to take into consideration how credible the threat is.

                                    [–]Dame_Juden_Dench 48ポイント49ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                    LOL, I guess scrawny nerds have free reign to try and roll as many jocks as they can.

                                    [–]yourenotserious 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    One person punched another. That's has to become the only way to look at this. Or would you let some people do anything they want because they're shorter and lighter than others? She hit him because she figured he wouldn't do anything. She surely didn't expect to get one back. She played the vagina card but it was declined. You swing first, you get one right back. Especially if it's a stranger. In a bar.

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                                        [–]projektnitemare13 0ポイント1ポイント  (49子コメント)

                                        only issue i see is he grabbed her arm first, if he hadnt dont hat, id say yes, she got hit after attacking him. but if he indeed did grab her frist then he is the aggressor here.

                                        [–]angrydude42 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        if you read the actual news reports, she had attempted (or did, reports vary) to knee him in the groin at this point.

                                        [–]MulderD 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                        He grabbed her after she raised her fist to hit him. Two wrongs. No rights.

                                        [–]Gotmilkbros 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Well there was a right...cross ._.

                                        [–]nevernarconnoone 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        she made a fist in a threatening matter. Any judge worth his salt will easily deem she was prepare to throw it.,

                                        [–]yourenotserious 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        She made a threatening gesture and he was was in range. It's a stand-your-ground state, right? Does that apply in bars? The only reason his actions were wrong is because she's a she, right? That seems odd.

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                                            [–]Vamaranthus 40ポイント41ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Nice misleading title. She gets clocked after she punches him ineffectually in the face. Just because she has a pair of tits doesnt giver her a forcefield preventing her teeth getting rattled after punching someone in the face.

                                            Not saying the guy wins any hero awards, but burning him for doing exactly what she did (with more strength mind you) while not placing fault for her smashed face squarly on her own shoulders is utter bullshit and sexism.

                                            [–]TeeReks 16ポイント17ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                            I see we all have law degrees. Let's hold the trial here and now.

                                            [–]turdcorn 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            When will she be charged?

                                            [–]Dillweed7 45ポイント46ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                            Graduate of the Ray Rice Dating Academy.

                                            [–]MyPersonalBubble 59ポイント60ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                            that's where Hope Solo went right?

                                            [–]dutch_meatbag 33ポイント34ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                            She gets a free pass for reasons. Sorry.

                                            [–]Ellen_Pao_is_a_cunt 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            She is good at the sport she plays?

                                            [–]residentchubbychaser 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            So is/was Ray Rice though. He was an almost unquestioned top 5 at his position a few years ago.

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                                              [–]Catostomidae 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Rae Carruth was valedictorian in 1999.

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                                                [–]SimpleGimble 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                I see a dumb bitch that fucked up and forgot she can't fight starting a fight.

                                                [–]Fukkthisgame 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                It's pretty clear that she hit him first, and is without a doubt the aggressor. Here. And I'm pretty sure I caught her kneeing him in the balls, too. This is her fault, and He's taking all the blame because men can't hit women.

                                                If a small man punched me and kneed me in the balls at a bar, I'd clock him, too. It shouldn't it be any different. That's equality.

                                                [–]DeLee2600 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Don't you just love the guy behind the lady that gets punched. No one. And I mean NO ONE is going to encroach on his space. Look at that expert use of the elbow to seal the deal and grab his real estate

                                                [–]theycallmemk 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                Isn't this a prerequisite to be a FSU QB?

                                                [–]selfhatingyank 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                The current state of Seminole warriors.

                                                Jameis Winston: long history of allegations.

                                                This guy: to use technical terms, "absolutely clocked" a girl at a bar.

                                                Mascot from 2004-2007, Joshua Halley: stabbed to death in a workplace knife fight over gumbo recipes.

                                                The real Chief Osceola would be crying.

                                                [–]mm242jr 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                stabbed to death in a workplace knife fight over gumbo recipes

                                                I'm trying to formulate an intelligent question here. No luck.

                                                [–]angrydude42 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                What's there to question? Fuckers that use File instead of Okra deserve what they get!

                                                [–]mm242jr 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                My comment was a trap. Guys, I found the infidel.

                                                [–]Vendevende 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Cincinnati is calling him at the moment

                                                [–]kilbus 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                woman threatened him, then hit him. Got what she deserved.

                                                [–]TrueEgalitarian 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                If she started the assault she probably won't do that again and we shouldn't punished the victim for defending himself.

                                                [–]diggyo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                I was expecting all the comments to indicate the guy should be executed by firing squad.

                                                I think he is probably never going to play for FSU again, but it seems like its going to be difficult for her to sue him for gazillions of bucks, like she probably intends to do. His lawyer is a boss.

                                                [–]Jw0341 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                I don't think you should ever hit a woman. But if you hit me first don't think you can hide behind your puss it doesn't mean shit to me once you physically assault me. Man or woman I don't care if you hit me I will do anything in my power to not let it happen again.

                                                [–]Ancient_Unknown 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                Alternate submission title: video shows FSU quarterback trying to get a drink at a bar, then some chick is a cunt to him, and he doesn't take her shit.

                                                Fuck these bitches who think just because they have a pussy means they can be the biggest cunt they want.

                                                [–]litewo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Jesus, DeAndre, take that sticker off the hat before wearing it.

                                                [–]MotleyCruise 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                Doesn't even matter who started it. A Southern raised college athlete for a prestigious Southern football team hauls off a punch on a woman for anything but genuine fear for his life, he's going to get the boot.

                                                He's in the wrong region and sport to hit a woman, even if she swung first.

                                                [–]whoistheenemy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Don't underestimate the southerner's love of the football playing man though. Remember this critical fact: he can throw oddly shaped balls really far. If that isn't reason enough to negate a pussy pass, I don't know what is.

                                                [–]goldenspear 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                What about arrest and prosecution? You t u ink he deserves those too?

                                                [–]huehuelewis 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                In true /r/FloridaMan fashion

                                                [–]MT3 5ポイント6ポイント  (34子コメント)

                                                It's like Jameis never left.

                                                [–]Kush_back 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                I see two young people, may be intoxicated, trying to fight for a spot at the bar (I'm guessing to order drinks)..the girl feels pushed, because she gets in his way over his shoulder. Then she puts up a fist, throws a punch and gets punched back. Even Stevens.

                                                [–]travislopez44 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                She hit him first soooo

                                                [–]rectifryer 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                The amount of brigading in this thread is too damn high

                                                [–]hesh582 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                Lotta people saying "well, what did she expect to happen???" What did he expect to happen? She has a sore jaw. He lost his place on a D1 football team.

                                                They were both morons, but everyone in this thread seems to be saying "what did she expect to happen??" ignoring the fact that he ended up suffering way greater consequences.

                                                He was just as much of an asshole as her, all the way through. He tried to sweep her out of the way to get to the bar. She overreacted and waved her fist. He overreacted, grabbed and pushed her. She overreacted to that and punched him. He overreacted to that and punch her back, far far harder.

                                                They were both belligerent drunk assholes playing out the same scene that happens at thousands of bars every night. One of them just happened to be a lot smaller than the other.

                                                There is this weird fixation on gender going on in this thread, neither of them "expected anything to happen" because they were both being drunk morons and got into a barfight. If it was a tiny dude the situation would be exactly the same, but reddit is out in force today with the "BITCH GOT REKT, PUSSY PASS DENIED, EQUAL RIGHTS EQUAL LEFTS" shit. I swear some people here just love watching women get hit.

                                                It's a fucking barfight guys. D1 athletes don't get to wreck tiny people on camera in barfights without consequences, regardless of the circumstances. Seems like anytime a woman is involved in anything around here the nasty gender politics come out in full force.

                                                [–]Pumpernickelfritz 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                What did the man do that made him a belligerent drunk asshole? He went to get a drink the same way as someone in any crowded bar, and was assaulted. Also if you look at the video, he was just trying to get to the left of her, where there was space once the other girl moved. Paranoid she was going to be skipped or something, she actually shimmied into his pathway.

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                                                  [–]LiterallyFuckPandas 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  I say they both were being stupid and they should just both move on.

                                                  [–]Sp0rx 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                  Right or wrong - reading a bunch of technical analysis on whether or not you can legally blast a woman in the face kind of depresses me a little.

                                                  [–]nusuth 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                  Okay, how about technical analysis on whether or not you can legally punch a belligerent and aggressive assailant in the face?

                                                  If instead of being a woman, this was a guy of her exact same weight, strength, fighting ability, etc, this would be blowing up /r/justiceporn.

                                                  Everyone would be saying, "Wow that guy was dumb for picking a fight with someone bigger than him, he had it coming". I don't know why people are so quick to assume that violent women can't actually hurt a guy, and that it's a guy's duty to always back down from violent women.

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                                                    [–]anormalgeek 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                    They're both assholes.

                                                    I don't feel sorry for her. She shoved back, she threatened violence first, and was the first to throw a punch. She deserved to get punched in the face. If the person across from her was female, nobody would give a shit. Pussypass.

                                                    I don't feel sorry for him either. Her punch didn't really hurt him, and legally justified or not, there was no real need for physical retaliation. If he'd been smart, he'd have just got the bartender/bouncer to throw her ass out. Because he couldn't control his emotions, he's being pilloried by the press and he has damaged his career. Fuck him. Act like a dick, get treated like one.

                                                    [–]omgfr[🍰] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    watch the full video in full screen. you can see she was waiting her turn the whole time, he tapped the guy on the shoulder in front of her trying to cut in. then its her turn she moves an he grabs the bar hitting her ribs trying to muscle in front of her when she was a head of him. after he touched her she then put her hands up saying back off, he didnt like that an got all big man and grabbed her wrist.. so she fought back. thats why he was arrested and is being charged.

                                                    [–]JurijFedorov 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                    I don't get it. A man followed a black man in Florida even thought he was told not to. Then he shot and killed him after being attacked by him for following him.

                                                    Now we see this retaliation punch in the same state. But instead of getting a not guilty sentence his career may be over. What kind of backwards laws do they have there?

                                                    [–]goldenspear 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    Let me simplify it for you. The black man is always guilty unless he is a fucking saint.

                                                    [–]Modified_Hackware 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    Don't tell me not to assault people, teach men to be my punching bag. #yesallmen

                                                    [–]Malphael -5ポイント-4ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                    Holy shit there are some real paragons of humanity in this comment section...

                                                    [–]Escodesco 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                    Why the fuck does this guy think he can just waltz up to the bar like nobody else is waiting for a drink? Fuck this dude

                                                    [–]Allie_dog 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                    As I always tell my guys. It's the second punch that always gets in trouble.

                                                    [–]avrahamb 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    He was just trying to improve his draft position.

                                                    [–]FowelBallz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    The full video revealed the following things to me:

                                                    1. Mouthy, drunk blond obviously started shit with Johnson.

                                                    2. Stupid, self-entitled jock figures squaring off with the blond is worth the risk of losing his scholarship and a sure shot to the NFL because he's never been required to accept responsibility in his life.

                                                    3. Neckbeard to the right of the blond at the bar finally realizes that something happened and GTFO of the bar pronto.

                                                    [–]BigDaddyRos 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    http://youtu.be/u2ntfQ3u2Mo

                                                    [–]Jayswagasaurus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    No more NFL dreams for this guy

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