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Mark Messier wearing a fallen FDNY firefighter's helmet at the Rangers first home game after 9/11 (imgur.com)

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[–]rowing_owenBUF - NHL 284ポイント285ポイント  (37子コメント)

They played the Sabres that game, this is the special jersey Buffalo wore

http://i.imgur.com/Y5PUpi5.jpg

[–]BoobyLordBOS - NHL 110ポイント111ポイント  (22子コメント)

Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't buffalo the first team to play in boston after the marathon bombing? Seems like buffalo is always there

[–]rowing_owenBUF - NHL 156ポイント157ポイント  (9子コメント)

You are correct

[–]BoobyLordBOS - NHL 103ポイント104ポイント  (8子コメント)

Oh boy i love being correct, thanks!

[–]kenata88OTT - NHL 34ポイント35ポイント  (7子コメント)

Trivia fact: Ottawa was the team in Boston that day, the game got delayed to the end of the season.

[–]chrisrobinmTOR - NHL 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

I remember a Leafs and Sens game Ottawa was pushed a couple of weeks after the shooting at Parliament. To a Sunday, I think.

[–]kenata88OTT - NHL 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yup I remember, I was really looking forward to that game too, we haven't been lucky when it comes to unfortunate events on game days

[–]bringmethefunkNJD - NHL 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

And we got to play your first game after the shooting. It was powerful to watch

[–]chrisrobinmTOR - NHL 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

True. Regardless of the team, I'm glad that time and time again, franchises from many sports honour their place in the city culture and pay tribute to local tragedies, and tragedies in other cities, too. Like for the Boston Marathon bombing, I really liked how Philly had the "From one tough city to another" billboards, and for the Ottawa shooting, that Oh Canada at the Penguins-Stars game.

[–]harvestmooner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea that was my birthday and I had tickets for the game, woke up late in my downtown apt and shit a brick:

[–]Bossman28894 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was supposed to go to the game with my father. We didn't find out the game was postponed until like an hour or two before, which was plenty of time

[–]beantheoneMTL - NHL 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remembered it because that game decided the outcome of my Fantasy hockey championship

[–]ColiflowerEar 30ポイント31ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hmm...awfully suspicious on the Buffalo Bills

[–]Mr_Abe_FromanCHI - NHL 87ポイント88ポイント  (2子コメント)

If the Bills start playing hockey, I'd suspect something too.

[–]ismellfartsonpurpose 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm pretty sure the Sabres won both of those games too

[–]DicNavisNYR - NHL 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Rangers won this game in overtime. Brian Leetch scored the GWG.

[–]ismellfartsonpurpose 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah you are correct, probably should have done my research first!

[–]BoobyLordBOS - NHL 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah i know they beat the bruins... Bastards

[–]jk01BUF - NHL 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

<3 u 2 bby

[–]spiritbearrVAN - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wasn't them for the Ottawa shootings so they're safe

[–]BoobyLordBOS - NHL 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah well i still have my eyes on them... Eichel

[–]sharpz_NYR - NHL 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

'grabbing my tinfoil hat'

[–]captarsNYR - NHL 61ポイント62ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you look at that picture of Messier again, you'll notice the Rangers' jersey says "New York" instead of "Rangers." This was a one-time-only jersey as well—both teams auctioned off their game jerseys for 9/11-related charities.

[–]JefflerCanada - IIHF 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

Technically, the Rangers did have a "NEW YORK" jersey in that style in the 80's, but yes, it was a one-off for its time.

[–]captarsNYR - NHL 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know, but if you want to get really technical, it was still a rare occurrence to see the Rangers in those jerseys… at MSG, at least. When they regularly wore "New York"-emblazoned blue jerseys from 1979 to 1987, they were away jerseys.

[–]OnlyFactsNoContextMTL - NHL 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's pretty normal in sports to have the name of your town on the away jersey and the franchise name on the home jersey.

I thought we'd see more interesting jersey changes when the NHL went from White at Home to White on the road.

[–]Sonny_ZwackLatvia - IIHF 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

"The jersey auction raised over $215,000 for the Twin Towers Fund."
- from the end of this video

[–]DicNavisNYR - NHL 85ポイント86ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's safe to say we'll always be thankful for that display of solidarity, BuffaBros.

[–]teerav42COL - NHL 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wait did they actually wear these in the game?

[–]Pikachu1989COL - NHL 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's pretty fucking awesome, love the respect that the Sabres Organization put out to support their fallen Brothers on the other side of the State.

[–]allancaesarPIT - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember that, I loved that the Sabres did that (as well as the Rangers)

[–]Meowingtons-PhDEDM - NHL 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow that's super cool. Those must be worth a fair bit nowadays

[–]domaaWSH - NHL -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where the hell is Snew York?

[–]ComradeVoytekVAN - NHL 651ポイント652ポイント  (119子コメント)

WOW LITERALLY GRAVE ROBBING, CLASSIC MESSIER.

No but seriously, I've never seen this image before, it's pretty powerful.

[–]Not_Jacob_TroubaManitoba Moose - AHL 67ポイント68ポイント  (116子コメント)

Could you explain to me why the nucks hate messier so much? He always seemed like a pretty stand up guy to me

[–]moorese7enUSA - IIHF 181ポイント182ポイント  (94子コメント)

He left a bad taste in their mouth after his time there and it's well deserved. He replaced Trevor Linden as captain who was a fan favorite, demanded to wear the number they had unofficially retired and I'm sure I'm missing a few things. He was a great hockey player and a hell of a leader with New York, but he did not do a great job in his time with Vancouver.

[–]perogiesVAN - NHL 287ポイント288ポイント  (58子コメント)

Ran over Linden in the playoffs when he was already down and injured. Replaced Linden as captain, demanded a retired number, played like he didn't give a fuck, didn't lead at all, was personal close friends with the GM and other management, forced Linden and other players out, had a secretive deal with the team where he would earn a bonus if team revenue went up a certain amount during his time there, later sued the Canucks for $6 million. He's a greedy self centered piece of shit and we fucking hate his filthy guts. I'm sure i missed a few things too.

[–]Lemon_ColaEDM - NHL 130ポイント131ポイント  (6子コメント)

Didn't give me any of his Lays chips either

[–]Konker101CHI - NHL 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah he needs to not put all the chips in his mouth at once

[–]TofinochrisVAN - NHL 31ポイント32ポイント  (2子コメント)

I still won't buy Lay's chips. My wife thinks this odd but understandable. It's a great marriage.

[–]WorkThrowaway91EDM - NHL 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I switched from Rogers when I saw his mug in their commercials...just for you.

[–]EnemyAceVAN - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lays low sodium chips are fantastic, the ones in the light blue bag.

[–]OnlyFactsNoContextMTL - NHL 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just try one. I dare you.

[–]filthy_sandwichTOR - NHL 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

And he didn't sign an autograph for me at the hockey awards when I was 13. Pure evil man

[–]ShoutsAtCloudsVAN - NHL 36ポイント37ポイント  (2子コメント)

You forgot to mention the number that Messier wanted (Wayne Maki's) was retired because he died of brain cancer at 29. Hence the grave robbing comment at the top of the page.

[Edited because I can't be trusted to form sentences.]

[–]FlavourdynamicsDET - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

[Edited because I can't be trusted to form sentences.]

Relax, you're doing

[–]ShoutsAtCloudsVAN - NHL 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How you word so good?

[–]Highlander253CBJ - NHL 74ポイント75ポイント  (14子コメント)

Was recently plastered all over the city by Rogers in an ad campaign where he held a family of canuck fans hostage and forced them to listen to his stories about how great of a leader he is and how they needed gamecenter in their lives.

[–]MEATSIMVAN - NHL 53ポイント54ポイント  (13子コメント)

The largest crowd response at the Heritage Classic at BC place was when his dirty mug came up on the big screen. Massive boo's. Whoever planned that ad campaign wasn't too aware of his reputation in Vancouver.

[–]MrIceCapVAN - NHL 22ポイント23ポイント  (10子コメント)

You would think he'd be somewhat aware of his own reputation.

[–]Dennis-MooreVAN - NHL 36ポイント37ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't seem like self awareness has ever really been his thing

[–]goalstopper28BOS - NHL 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think he said in his AMA that he regrets his actions in Vancouver and should have never been captain there.

[–]Banana_massacreVAN - NHL 34ポイント35ポイント  (3子コメント)

Of course he would say that, what do you expect his response to be? "Fuck Vancouver, no regrets"?

[–]ZaneraxUtica Comets - AHL 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

If he was truly repentant for how he took your org for a ride he probably wouldn't have sued them for more monies. It's probably a "Yea, I shouldn't have done that, but whatever" type of regret.

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    [–]Rustyreddits 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He's aware of how to sell out for a big paycheque, he's excellent at it

    [–]ZaneraxUtica Comets - AHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why would he care? Free money or not dicking over Rogers with a bum add. Choice probably wasn't too hard

    [–]dbcanuckTOR - NHL 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm fairly certain Moose refers to himself in the 3rd person.

    [–]ApkohaARI - NHL 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    yeah, I'm sure he cares

    [–]redphive 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Someone from Toronto no doubt, eh?

    [–]tronfonneBOS - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It was for that lame ass can am spydr ad

    [–]tyereliusprimeVAN - NHL 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

    He sued because of a clause that stated that he'd get money if the franchise grew in worth. This clause ended in 2002 (If I recall correctly), and so he was paid 6 million because Naslund/Bertuzzi/Morrison were amazingly fun to watch.

    [–]dbcanuckTOR - NHL 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    IIRC those types of clauses are now illegal in the latest CBA.

    [–]ClaudeLemieuxCOL - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

    ...Bertuzzi...were amazingly fun to watch

    Hmmmm. Agree to disagree.

    [–]tyereliusprimeVAN - NHL 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You don't think Bertuzzi (before the whole Moore incident) was fun to watch? The guy would have two defenders on him, be stick handling with one hand allowing Naslund to get open to wire his shot from the half boards?

    Bertuzzi was the penultimate power forward of the time and I'd like to know your reasoning why not?

    [–]ClaudeLemieuxCOL - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Because of the Moore incident. And his absolute joke of a penalty

    [–]tyereliusprimeVAN - NHL 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Which didn't happen until 2 years after the Messier clause ended (which is what we're talking about). Up until that incident he was incredibly fun to watch because it was so much talent.

    And Todd, though his NHL punishment should have been more severe was crucified in the public eye. He was vilified for months afterwards in the Vancouver press alone. And I believe that other players should have shared the blame considering the dogpile that happened immediately after had to have had some effect on the outcome of Moore's injury.

    I was working with Steve and Dominic's uncle at the time, and he let on that the family thought the same as well.

    [–]raptosaurusTOR - NHL 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

    One of those players he forced out was Bure.

    [–]BryzllyBearVAN - NHL 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He didn't force out Bure, he held out/left for other reasons. He said years later that Messier had nothing to do with it and he didn't have much of a problem with him.

    [–]PeteFo 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah you're missing when he helped rob the cup from you too.

    [–]internet_butt_raperCGY - NHL 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    big coke head too

    [–]mantiseyeNYR - NHL 53ポイント54ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Here is a Rangers fan take on it, as someone who lived through it and loved Messier when he lead the team to the Cup (I was 12 when they won it):

    Messier very famously lead the Rangers to their first Cup in forever. He was also very famously a leader: not only with the Rangers but he was known for it with the Oilers and even got a Cup without Gretzky after he was traded to LA.

    After the 97 season, Messier's contract was up and the Rangers didn't think he was worth over $6.5m per season (he wanted $20m for three years). They had also just signed Gretzky and Pat LaFontaine, so they thought they were fine with centers. Most fans at the time wanted Messier to come back and there wasn't a salary cap either so it's not like them throwing money at him (something they did often) would have had any real downside.

    The Canucks, meanwhile, were on a downswing. After their Cup run in '94 (they were the seven seed) they had gotten swept in the second round the following season, lost in the first round the season after that and missed the playoffs entirely after that. They were desperate to improve their situation, and they had actually been turned down by Gretzky the year before for the Rangers in spite of him offering them more money (they basically gave him an ultimatum which of course always works out great when trying to sign a high profile kind of guy). So they looked to Messier. They gave him the money he wanted and they even gave him the captaincy and his number which had been out of circulation (but not officially retired) since 1974 when Wayne Maki died.

    Here's the thing though: Pat Quinn (Canucks GM) gave in to Messier because he thought he would somehow do for the Canucks what he did for the Rangers, either because he actually believed it or because the new Canucks owners thought it. He didn't have to say yes to any of those things. Anyway it ended up costing Quinn his job and he was replaced with Mike Keenan who is an absurd man and really the guy Canucks fans should hate since he traded away Linden (and a number of other players).

    However, a thing you might not hear Canucks fans mention, is because the team played so badly when Keenan and Messier was there they were able to land them the Sedins. A guy who the Canucks got as part of the Linden trade, Brian McCabe, was a huge part of landing Henrik Sedin. The Cancuks already had the second overall pick, which they used to draft Daniel. McCabe was traded to the Blackhawks for the 4th overall pick, which was flipped to the Lightning for the first overall pick (plus two later round picks) which was then flipped to the Thrashers for the second overall pick. Boom, Sedins on the same team.

    Anyway I don't think Canucks fans hate for Messier is unjustified, since it sounds like he wasn't the best guy for the team, but it also sounds like the team was kind of a mess at the time and Messier is just a decent guy to pile blame/hate on. There were never any issues with him in New York, even when the team was awful during his final years. I don't think he should have accepted the captaincy in Vancouver, but he was also brought in to lead the team so who the hell knows? I do think that nobody should ever hire Mike Keenan to do anything, but that's a separate issue (and one teams only very recently started to understand; I'm looking at you, Panthers).

    Anyway the Canucks waived him and eventually became a super good team that was basically one ridiculous Tim Thomas performance away from landing the Cup for the first time, and that was all built from things that happened as far back as when Messier (and Keenan) was ruining everyone's lives in Vancouver. The Rangers re-signed him after that and never even sniffed the playoffs during his second stint here.

    [–]thenyrfanNYR - NHL 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Just a correction.

    After the 97 season, Messier's contract was up and the Rangers didn't think he was worth over $6.5m per season (he wanted $20m for three years). They had also just signed Gretzky and Pat LaFontaine, so they thought they were fine with centers.

    They actually had just signed Brian Skudland and Mike Keane. Messier went on to sign with Vancouver shortly after. Dave Checketts the President of MSG (who was more of a Basketball guy) refused to give Messier the $6.5+ a year contract, despite just having resigned Patrik Ewing to a huge contract earlier in the year. It was a slap in the face to Messier who had actually won a championship. The Lafontaine trade came during pre-season after Messier had already left. And Gretzky was signed the summer previously, as Messier and Gretz played together for the season going to the ECF losing to Lindros and the Flyers.

    [–]mantiseyeNYR - NHL 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah, didn't mean to imply that Gretz was signed the same season Messier left. I was actually pretty tired and slightly drunk when I wrote that post (yay, World Cup!). Thanks for clarification on LaFontaine though.

    [–]prophetofgreedVAN - NHL 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The thing about Kennan replacing Quinn was partly a decision that Messier pushed to ownership and was famously a part of the decision making on the team since he was close to Kennan.

    Many players came out and stated that Messier was clearly part of roster decisions.

    [–]mantiseyeNYR - NHL 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Right, but why let a player have that kind of power? The Rangers never let him do that! I mean, they were perfectly capable of making their own hilariously awful roster decisions without consulting Messier, but I digress. You're putting a player with zero team building experience in charge (in whatever capacity) of shaping your roster? That seems... like a bad idea. Clearly the team figured it out since Mess was gone after three years (and Keenan only made it one season) but still.

    [–]prophetofgreedVAN - NHL 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Because the owners were dumb? They were the ones that allowed this to happen. It was also the owners first season as the owners since they got control of the Canucks through some shadowy deals.

    (They were supposed to be co-owners with the owners that the Canucks had since expansion, because the owners had gone over budget in building a new arena but secretly grabbed some stocks to get past 50% ownership of the team)

    [–]allancaesarPIT - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He should had NEVER been given the C and the number 11. PERIOD

    [–]irishguy42NYR - NHL 33ポイント34ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Pretty sure he also didn't play well during his time there.

    Like you said, he was absolutely amazing for us. Really showed what kind of a player/leader he was.

    But with the Canucks...eh.

    [–]TheWildRover_EDM - NHL 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Same with the Oil. I laugh at the Vancouver hate, but it is well deserved.

    [–]lovedetroitDET - NHL 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    To add insult to the Canuck's injury, there is an award named after him about displaying leadership.

    [–]anstormningSJS - NHL 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    162 points in 207 games. Considering he was over a point a game player for his career, his stat line was pretty bad during his 3 seasons there.

    [–]cachow6SJS - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Did he request the captaincy, or was it sort of thrust on him? Just wondering.

    [–]TibetzzVAN - NHL 16ポイント17ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Linden offered the captaincy out of respect, Messier took it without hesitation. He then generally made the locker room a shitty place to be, to the point that Linden almost immediately regretted the decision.

    And then Linden got traded. So yeah. Kind of a prick.

    [–]babbers-underbiteVAN - NHL 15ポイント16ポイント  (8子コメント)

    that being said- why the flipping fuck would Linden offer up the captaincy "out of respect". Should've respected himself more

    [–]TibetzzVAN - NHL 14ポイント15ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Messier's middle name was pretty much "The Captain" at the time. Linden probably expected him to turn it down out of respect himself.

    [–]babbers-underbiteVAN - NHL 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

    True- just overall a dumb management move to bring a player that was going to shake up the dressing room like Messier did.

    [–]baconwichesVAN - NHL 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Sort of when you offer your buddy the last slice of pizza. By offering it, you're really saying you want it, but you're acknowledging your buddy who in turn pretty much has to say no, go for it, lest he look like a dick.

    Turns out Messier looked like a dick.

    [–]babbers-underbiteVAN - NHL -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

    yeah but when your buddy is a dick and goes for the last slice of pizza you should jam it down his fucking throat so he knows not to do it again

    [–]EasyKreiderNYR - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sounds like Linden shouldn't have offered something he wasn't prepared to give up

    [–]goalstopper28BOS - NHL 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He also played for arch-nemesis Edmonton and beat the Canucks in the SCF as a Ranger captain in 94.

    [–]koncept61VAN - NHL 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

    He also hit linden when he was down in the finals, and recently sued the canucks because they grew in value after he left

    [–]easyRyder9NYR - NHL 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    ...and won (the suing part), so apparently at least 1 impartial person with literally all of the known facts thought he was justified.

    [–]sinsyder-EDM - NHL -2ポイント-1ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Had the Canucks retired Maki's jersey it would be one thing but it was not retired and was worn by another player in 1974. Messier would have worn that number in any rink.

    [–]this____is_bananasVAN - NHL -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

    It's about a lack of respect for the culture created by Canuck fans.

    [–]sinsyder-EDM - NHL -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

    There isn't a club in the league that wouldn't have let Mark Messier wear number 11 even if it was officially retired.

    [–]FatdapTri-City Americans - WHL 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This should be mandated reading for all /r/hockey posters.

    [–]prophetofgreedVAN - NHL 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Someone made the definitive write up with news sources, player quotes and management quotes into explaining it.

    http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1385597

    Short story to it, him and Kennan was a cancer to the team. He showed no heart, no grit and no passion like he never did before, he just showed up for his pay check (he was also one of the most paid players in the league getting 6 million a year)

    [–]allancaesarPIT - NHL 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Maki

    TL;DR Guy died of brain cancer in 1974, his number 11 was never issued again until Messier demanded it. One of his biggest fuckups he ever did.

    Had he not done that, I would 100 percent respect Messier, but that leaves a bad taste in my mouth as a hockey fan, still an incredible fucking player and one of the best Oilers and best Rangers hockey players to ever fucking play the game. But that? And the fact he was given the C over Trevor Linden was beyond fucked up.

    Trevor Linden and Pavel Bure were the heart and soul of that team in the 90's, that's not even disputable, that's a god damn fact, and to disrespect one of your core players like that is mind boggling.

    And to top it off, the Canucks management to this day are a bunch of idiots. (Trading 3 starting goalies in a span of 2 years)

    [–]stillclubVAN - NHL 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

    he created cancer and baby aids

    [–]kylieighHouston Aeros - AHL 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think this might help you find your answer

    [–]SharksFanAbroadSJS - NHL 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't think anybody else mentioned, but Messier also scored the GWG in Game 7 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals against the Canucks, in a 3-2 Rangers victory in MSG.

    Of course, this was before he joined the Canucks in the 1997-98 season.

    [–]L4cer8VAN - NHL 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Took our money, and did coke instead of playing hockey.

    [–]WhereIsMyButtholeVAN - NHL 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    He snorted Lays chip dust.

    [–]L4cer8VAN - NHL 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Betcha can't have just one bump!

    [–]StevedaleVAN - NHL -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He's a cunt

    [–]invrsleepNYR - NHL 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    One of the firefighters being honored at the game gave it to him and asked that he wear it during the anthems.

    [–]TheKing30NYR - NHL 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Laughed my ass off. Thanks for that and acknowledging that he did something kind of alright once.

    [–]irishguy42NYR - NHL 65ポイント66ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Holy shit. That's powerful.

    [–]otter_pop_n_lockNYR - NHL 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I was at this game. Home opener against the Sabres. Normally when the away team comes out, the crowd would boo, which is what we started to do. But then we noticed that the Sabres jerseys said "New York" across the front instead of their old logo. Boos quickly turned to cheers and it was a nice show of unity between two New York teams during a time where it was really hard to cheer for anything. Keep in mind that Ground Zero was still a smoldering mess just a few miles away. It was a pretty emotional night and one of the most memorable home openers I had the privilege of attending.

    [–]InSOmnlaCBUF - NHL[🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    As a Sabres fan, I never saw this. Awesome story!

    [–]marksk88TOR - NHL 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I really like hockey. I mean a lot. In my spare time, I read up about players and teams before my time. Now, I am old enough to remember 9/11. I was a child when it happened (grade 8) but I remember it vividly. But seeing this photo, and realizing that Messier was captain of the Rangers when 9/11 happened really puts into perspective just how long ago it was. Wow.

    [–]SteamHoleNYR - NHL 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is amazing.

    [–]oteppNYR - NHL 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I can't find the image anywhere, but I also remember teams lining up on the same blue line during the national anthem.

    [–]GustavoPinkmanVAN - NHL 32ポイント33ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Damn that's a poweful picture.. Let's go check out the comments

    [–]NauticalDisastaPIT - NHL 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Love that scene to death but hate the way his shoes blend into the carpet.

    [–]dcmcdermKamloops Blazers - WHL 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Dammit I never noticed that before but now you've ruined it for me!

    [–]Packers91DET - NHL 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Did they do that originally or just after it's been jpeg'd to death.

    [–]kissinKyleCOL - NHL 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

    2001-02 home opener at MSG. Very cool.

    [–]SefferTOR - NHL 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Classy messier

    [–]bigbadgregVAN - NHL 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I love how Canuck posters seem to try to steal the show in every thread remotely related to Messier.

    But seriously, very powerful photograph.

    [–]NickDerpkinsFLA - NHL 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

    his face says it all

    [–]ryderjb 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thanks for posting this image, I had never seen it before. Cheers.

    [–]PhillyNetminder 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Damn even 14 years later and this stuff still gets to me...combine this with the sabers jerseys from that game ... it's amazing to me

    [–]Pikachu1989COL - NHL 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's pretty touching, love that everyone were supporting the New York City immediately after 9/11. Loved the camaraderie that took place between the New York Sports teams and the NYPD and FDNY.

    [–]IamthelurkerVAN - NHL 56ポイント57ポイント  (15子コメント)

    Even Satan was an angel once.

    [–]greybeardsVAN - NHL 65ポイント66ポイント  (3子コメント)

    He was even a hockey player

    [–]nudy_auraBUF - NHL 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Satan was the reason I got into hockey, and the Sabres, in the first place.

    [–]j-awesomeNSH - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Skatin' with the Devil

    [–]rowing_owenBUF - NHL 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    ayyy

    [–]ScrewbitNYR - NHL 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Canucks fans should be banned from any thread mentioning Messier. We get it, you hate him.

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      [–]murphthebanditWSH - NHL 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Wow

      [–]goalstopper28BOS - NHL 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

      I didn't realize he was still playing in 2001. I thought he retired in 1999 or 1998?

      [–]ThrowinderSinghDET - NHL 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Gretzky retired in 99, and Mess was still there.

      [–]Revofev92VAN - NHL 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

      He retired during the 04/05 lockout. Gretzky retired in 1999 with NYR

      [–]goalstopper28BOS - NHL 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Ok. I guess I was thinking of Gretzky.

      [–]prophetofgreedVAN - NHL 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Nope, he was ruining the Canucks those years.

      Then they bought out his contract and he ran back to the Rangers.

      [–]BijanadactylSJS - NHL 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I don't give a shit what team you're a fan of. This is a powerful image and Messier is one of the greats, history with your team or not. Grow up.

      [–]canuck_11OTT - NHL 39ポイント40ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Favourite player of all time. Thanks for sharing OP.

      [–]RelentlessNick10DET - NHL 73ポイント74ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I see you don't get along well with Canucks fans.

      [–]HoBorvatVAN - NHL 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

      you put shame to that username /s

      [–]the-magic-man-is-bac 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Wow that was powerful. Woah. I had a friend that lost her dad during 9/11 it was really devastating. She said to lose her dad that way was way worse than imaginable

      [–]DicNavisNYR - NHL 66ポイント67ポイント  (82子コメント)

      Pretty sad that every single thing involving Mark Messier (including an iconic, powerful image with such massive circumstances surrounding it) has to be taken over by Canucks fans harping on an old joke/grudge.

      No American city (or maybe even any city abroad) has ever been struck with such a display of terrorism, and the strength of the city was largely tied to the city's symbolic leaders showing courage and standing for nothing less than pride and a return to normalcy.

      I'm honestly pretty pissed off at the Canucks fans who participated in the "Fuck Messier" circlejerk in this of all threads. This isn't about you. And maybe one day another fanbase will circlejerk around the captain of your cup winning team.

      [–]HappyHaplessVAN - NHL 16ポイント17ポイント  (9子コメント)

      Am I missing something here? The one guy who said "Fuck Messier" was downvoted to oblivion. Nobody on this thread made this about them.

      [–]DicNavisNYR - NHL 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

      One guy said only "Fuck Messier" and he stands at 1 point, but the top comment and all of that comment's 21 children comments are about why the Canucks fans hate Messier. It totally took over the beginning of the thread.

      [–]rookie-mistakeWPG - NHL 34ポイント35ポイント  (3子コメント)

      then downvote it if you don't think it contributes, hide the conversation you aren't interested in, and move on with the thread

      i mean, you're annoyed the threads being derailed by comments about messier yet somehow slamming the entire canucks fanbase is super relevant?

      [–]xzElmozxVAN - NHL 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

      At this point half the comments are about why canucks fans dont like Messier and the other half are Rangers fans bitching about the first half.

      The beautiful part of reddit id the fact that you can start your own discussion on any relevent topic. If you dont like people discussing that part of his career then start a discussion about a different part; maybe this part.

      You whining and complain about the discussion being off topic of the picture is hypocritical.

      [–]EasyKreiderNYR - NHL -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Its the top of the god damn thread you depressed, bitter fucks. There's a reason you pessimistic fucks have never won a cup. Maybe if you cry less, and support your team more you might see different results. Then again, your entire city will probably just throw a collective temper tantrum after another early playoff exit, because that's the only thing the Nucks are good at. Whining.

      [–]AmIStillShadowbannedTOR - NHL 22ポイント23ポイント  (25子コメント)

      Every fucking thread, it's incredibly annoying. But, cant expect much else from the most bitter fanbase in the league.

      [–]ScrewbitNYR - NHL 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Plus there are a ton of Nucks fans in this sub, way more than Rangers fans so its a losing cause.

      [–]AmIStillShadowbannedTOR - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yep, whole profiles been hit by a downvote train, but what're you gonna do.

      [–]baconwichesVAN - NHL 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Come on, man. Those are some pretty broad strokes, don't you think?

      [–]AmIStillShadowbannedTOR - NHL 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I'm not joking, find any thread about Messier that isn't hijacked by angry Nucks fans. 2nd most points in NHL history and his name can't be brought up without a thousand Vancouver fans echoing "fuck Messier".

      [–]baconwichesVAN - NHL 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You'll also find in this thread a Canuck fan casually mentioning it then acting like a good dude, and someone else inquiring why Canuck fans hate Messier. THAT is the real issue... People asking, and us being way to giddy to oblige.

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        [–]goddamnretardVAN - NHL -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Harden the fuck up.

        [–]InSOmnlaCBUF - NHL[🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Or what? You gonna riot?

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          [–]bloombloxDET - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I was in Kindergarten when 9/11 happened, but even back then I remember it so clear and vivid. Great pic OP thanks for sharing.

          [–]rpm3311 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          That's Chief Ray Downey's (Killed on 9/11) helmet. Chief Downey was a member of the FDNY hockey team and a very well known and respected firefighter. Here is the FDNY Hockey teams article about him and how Messier ended up wearing the helmet. http://fdnyhockey.org/chief-ray-downey/

          [–]InSOmnlaCBUF - NHL[🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Wow....the onions

          [–]grandwahsVAN - NHL 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          He's so pretty!

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