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[–]ekjp[S,A] -143ポイント-142ポイント  (88子コメント)

I worry more about how to improve our relationship with mods and the community than about my job. I'm excited about what we're doing (community tools, site performance) and about the reddit team, and that’s what keeps me going. I'm glad to work for a company whose users are so emotionally attached to its communities.

[–]garynuman9 73ポイント74ポイント  (28子コメント)

I posted this on another of your replies as well, but this. Seriously. It'll go a really long way...

Not sure if you'll see this but looking at your comments thus far you have to see that the ones in which you appear human, have a sense of humor, and seem genuine are actually netting you positive karma. The ones that seem like corporate legalise are the ones getting nuked... As such a simple suggestion... Maybe spend an hour or half hour daily simply engaging with the community. Visit the subs that interest you. Comment without the "A", essentially be a person. You must see that part of the uproar was caused by your general negative public perception versus the overwhelming positive view of Victoria. Essentially give Reddit a chance... If you're open and friendly with us- willing to engage in the " authentic" conversations you've been praising- we'll return the the favor. At the end of the day this can be a surprisingly forgiving place- hell I hear even Unidan is getting upvotes again...

Hell maybe even start a dear yishan style sub for yourself. Anything...

Edit: syntax

[–]tripinjackal 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

Totally this. It will help build an actual relationship with your community and have show us you really are a part of it.

[–]plowkiller 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same here. Honestly, just reading her responses to all of these questions already makes it feel like she really cares.

[–]pppppatrick 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

Why are we teaching the CEO of reddit how to reddit?

[–]Sassy_Cinnabon 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Because she has been acting as a CEO rather than a redditor. She needs to be both.

[–]thistokenusername 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Exactly. When I see an admin who's last activity was 2 months ago, I'm not inclined to trust them at all.

[–]Rikvidr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm inclined to trust them even less when they get publicly accused by major news sites of being "out of touch with the community", and some of her first responses are "pics or it didn't happen", and "haters". If you look at /u/ekjp's post history, there is a complete lack of meme terms being thrown around. In fact, I can find none. Exactly none. Until today. I feel like it's a thinly veiled attempt to show the community that she can be one of us. It's only a matter of time before she's talking about her "rare Pepes" and "dank memes".

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[–]ignavusaur 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

I agree but look what happened to /u/kn0thing, when reddit brings its pitchforks, there is no rational or reasoning, it is pure LITERALLY HITLER SPAWN OF SATAN CHAIRMAN PAO.

[–]garynuman9 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

The difference being /u/kn0thing literally built Reddit. There's no question of his intentions. He has handled this entire situation just absolutely terribly but has returned basically hat in hand begging forgiveness. If he follows through on the things he's said today I have no doubt that he'll regain his credibility in the eyes of the community. The same can't be said of /u/ekjp. With her past and more or less total lack of engagement with the community (I mean let's face it, she's only here today because she has to be) it's hard to trust her or take her at her word. If she gets involved and actually shows she understands, uses, and enjoys the thing she runs I think a lot of the hate will subside. If not, probably not...

[–]ignavusaur 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

people kept saying he became a sellout and that he sold his principles and is taking the site in a direction that many other key members would have refused like Aaron Swartz.

But you do have a good point, the rift between him and the community will be healed sooner or later, I just sincerely hope that the rift between Pao and the community is fixed, she doesn't seem like a bad person, and has good ambitions for the site.

[–]CovenantHeart 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I mean let's face it, she's only here today because she has to be

Hearsay...

[–]garynuman9 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Looking at her history her last post that wasn't related to an administrative action was 7 months ago. That doesn't exactly scream someone who actually uses Reddit for fun to me...

[–]2fists1anus -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you have any idea what a CEO does?

[–]garynuman9 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No not at all actually can you please use your I'm sure endless knowledge to condescend some more to me please. You seem the think all CEO's have the exact same workday. She runs a social media news aggregator with a very small staff funded by venture capital. If she's concerned about gaining the trust and respect of the community it's not unreasonable to think that she might actually occasionally use the damn thing. You're conflating running Reddit with the being the CEO of general electric...

[–]LiterallyKesha 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is a really, really stupid idea that you didn't think through. I can guarantee that every single response will be downvoted and attacked. It's what has happened so far. She made a little joke earlier along with an answer to a question and everyone didn't see the answer and went "OMG WHY ARE YOU WASTING TIME INSTEAD OF ANSWER ME"

[–]garynuman9 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not going to happen overnight. She's not the most popular person right now. If she posts on topic about things that interest her as a user- not as an admin- the tide will eventually turn. Sure there will be steadfast detractors but the majority will come around if she puts forth the effort...

[–]CovenantHeart 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Technically, I think it would be a really good idea in itself...but it would work out exactly like you say it would.

[–]purpleslug -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Exactly. Cite Unidan. It definitely does not work.

[–]garynuman9 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

k.

...sure looks like it works...

[–]kriffz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

this is cool.. I sent reddit mail to ekjp a few hours before you posted this, saying pretty much the same thing as you have said. She hasn't replied yet though.

[–]treebog 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you fucking serious? This is the site that upvoted Ellen Pao hate to /r/all for the past month and you think people would like her if she interacted with the community more? Even this very reasonably post is at -100. If I were her I would stay the fuck away from this community.

[–]cullen9 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

it's not going to happen, look at both her and u/kn0things post they just keep answering the same question and avoid anything that requires actual involvement.

[–]Show-Me-Your-Moves -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

the ones in which you appear human, have a sense of humor, and seem genuine are actually netting you positive karma.

Except that pretty much every comment except the meme-one now has triple or quadruple digit downvote totals, same as always. People have no right to criticize her use of reddit when they can't even grasp the concept behind upvote/downvote.

[–]fire_and_shit 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

tl;dr: can we get back to Rampart

[–]evidently_em 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I worry more about how to improve our relationship with mods and the community than about my job.

Nobody believes you

[–]RunningWarrior 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ellen, do you browse Reddit in your free time? Do you have any alt accounts? Do you contribute content?

[–]proto41 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If that is true, it might be hurtful but the only way you could prove these words is to leave reddit. Over 190.000 users have publicly and in clear terms asked for exactly that. So if you're really excited about the concept of reddit please let go for something greater instead of clinging to your career.

[–]the_fappening_king 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

▄︻̷̿┻̿═━━━╥━══E

Can you just leave ,smartest thing you would do while working at Reddit

[–]Slagathor91 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Slightly related to your comment: I just wanted to say I really respect you putting yourself out here. I can tell your comments are still getting downvoted for no reason right after you post. That sucks, because you definitely sound sincere (and I bet you are). While I don't think everything was handled as well as it could have been, it sounds like you and your team are attempting to make a concerted effort to improve. While I don't agree with you on many issues that I've read about, you seem to have your priorities in line with the reddit community. I eagerly await to see how you move reddit forward.

[–]CreamyJackCity 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Get these promises into action, and hopefully the childish majority will put down their pitchforks.

[–]thefarcus 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

That is your job. I hope you are removed from position solely due to your lack of connection with your community. You're the equivalent of a McDonald's manager who doesn't know the menu or how to prepare the items while trying to ensure the customer still leaves the restaurant satisfied so you still look good.

You are not qualified for this position and it worries me that you even got this far in the first place.

[–]clawhatesyou 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pretty sure McDonald's managers are cross-trained to perform every single job function on the staff.

[–]coaks388 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's amazing how far you can get when everyone is afraid that you'll sue them because you chose someone else who was maybe a different gender or race, but more qualified.

[–]KungFuBeta 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey Ellen (or anyone else),

I haven't really been a fan of yours, to be honest, I really disliked you when you fired Victoria, or so to say, I started to hate you. But afterall, we all make mistakes, big and small, huge and tiny. You are a human! We all are!

But what really made me sad, that you have a multisubreddit called "positive". Please, if you need help, talk with somebody (just don't do it with this community).

For everyone else: I really don't care if this gets voted down to oblivion. We must know, that Ellen and /u/kn0thing are humans, just like us. And please for the sake of everyone who don't know what the hell is going on, don't downvote them.

I wish you all the best! :)

[–]dangerdark 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

I worry more about how to improve our relationship with mods and the community than about my job.

Apparently not that worried

You would do anything for Reddit, but you won't do that?

[–]zardeh 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

To be fair, its probably worse for reddit if she leaves than if she doesn't.

[–]lazysourduck -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Because she'll sue the Internet for sexual harassment?

[–]zardeh -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Because then, while embroiled with {all of this shit} they then need to find another interim CEO.

[–]lazysourduck 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was speaking to how horrible of a person she is and what she dragged KP through the mud over while embarrassing herself.

[–]zardeh -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know that, your joke was ignored, not misunderstood.

[–]lazysourduck 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not a joke. She's a cunt.

[–]halfar 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you really loved us, you'd upload an album of you wearing various hats of our choosing.

Pikachu. Link. Batman. National Socialist. Jigglypuff. That kinda thing.

[–]jojotv 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does worrying more about one issue than another preclude you from commenting on the second issue?

[–]monk3ytheboy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

For someone that doesn't care about their job, you sure do like filing good lawsuits over them.

[–]Raqk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

well that issue is almost at 190,000 signatures.

[–]mavvv 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bullshit If I was you I'd care more about my job than the community. If you are going to bullshit us just stop commenting. You don't care about the community or you'd be a part of it. That is literally how communities work.

[–]Travv 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not so much a fan of you nor your sjw leanings, however.

[–]cullen9 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Will any of the admins actually answer questions that are relevant to the mods or the users frustrations? Or are we just going to see you all just give the same PR non answers?

[–]TheEndOfLevelBoss 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was starting to believe you but then you post that, come on. Of course you care way more about your job than the relationship with mods and redditors.

If it wasn't your job you'd not even think about it and even though it is your job, you had to have a huge public backlash before considering caring for that relationship and actually do something, even though as of now all you did is talking, not a single action yet.

What you're really excited about is money and I can't believe you're "glad" about the "emotionally attached" Redditors, they just make your work of monetizing Reddit way harder.

[–]Jdbeiha -5ポイント-4ポイント  (8子コメント)

Best thing you can do to improve that relationship is leave, Captain.

[–]dope-as-heck 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Why? She's the first CEO to even acknowledge, much less actively work on problems that have been plaguing reddit since day one.

[–]dominotw 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

plaguing reddit since day one.

There was no arbitrary bans, cleanup, shadowbans ect from day one. What are u talking about?

[–]aldenhg -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's just not true. Subreddits didn't even exist on day 1. The tools made sense when they were made (though were spartan), they just weren't updated to match the needs of the growing community.

[–]yayreddityay -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

The fuck are you smoking?

She fucked up so bad that a reddit clone sprung up and now is getting 1 million uniques a month + venture capital $$.

[–]Jdbeiha -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, she has certainly worked on the 'free speech' problem all those inspiring TEDtalks were about.

More importantly the userbase has made it clear she has lost their trust, imo, irreparably. The best thing she can do for the community is gracefully exit, because it's all downhill for her from here. The more reddit is focused on that resentment, the less reddit is focused on everything else, and as a result the community suffers.

Source: every action she has taken resulting in a 2 day shitshow in r/all

[–]MrAwesomo92 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is ekjp Ellen Pao?

[–]americanpagesus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That can go right in the management textbooks as an example of not answering a question.

[–]nagash666 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Than stop shadow banning redditors just to suppress their opinions at least open a public admin log why they have been banned with a reason attached

[–]shemp5150 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know, I wish people would stop mass downvoting everything you say. A lot of hate fire everything that happened is still floating around, and I had too stalk your username to find out that you're actually planning changes... and trying to make a difference.

I can understand why everyone is so upset, but it's hard to hear the apology over all those pitchforks clanging together.

[–]thepetitionthrowaway 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am the creator of the petition. What do you have to say about it? Why haven't you replied to my few emails I sent? One of the reddit admins made sure they would be forwarded to you.

[–]whiskeytango55 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

wait, what?

I like the sentiment, but your personal history is very very well known and such a humongous feel-goody statement rings at least a little disingenuous in light of the massive amount of debt you have as well as the career you have to pretty much rebuild from scratch.

[–]nathan0905 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I worry more about how to improve our relationship with mods and the community than about my job.

Ergo, if that included stepping down, you'd do it right? This really does sound a tad like you are dodging the question here. Will you resign if the community (as displayed in the petition) believes that it is best for the community as a whole?

[–]dominotw -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I worry more about how to improve our relationship with mods and the community than about my job.

Isn't that your job?

[–]ohboyohboyohboy[🍰] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is is true your husband ran a ponzi scheme that took more than $150,000,000 from people?

[–]ziptime -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problem as I see it /u/ekjp (Ellen) is that a great deal of people on Reddit simply don't trust you.

[–]improvemedawg6 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

GO AWAY ELLEN

[–]armchairdictator -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Giza Job

[–]docollas -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then why do you still allow subs like /r/ShitRedditSays and /r/SubredditDrama? Both subs exist only to harass the users you claim to care about, yet nothing is done about them.

[–]benowillock -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Leave now, and never come back.

Im not implying you look like gollum, by the way.

[–]crazyeight -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're also extremely emotionally attached to you resigning. Right now.

[–]ngpropman -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can think of a great way to improve the relationship between Admins, mods, and the community. Are you ready? Give it up. Just walk away. If you "worry more about how to improve [reddit's] relationship with mods and the community than about [your] job." Then maybe it's time to put your money where your mouth is.

[–]KhalifaKidV2 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I worry more about how to improve our relationship with mods and the community than about my job.

lpao what a joke!

[–]BostonDrivingIsWorse -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Weak. Not only do I not believe you, but can you give us more than corporate speak? "I'm excited about what we're doing blah blah blah..." What ARE you doing to improve your relationship with the user base?

[–]Okichah -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those "communities" are literally Reddit. Enabling and encouraging growth in those communities, makes Reddit a stronger platform. Giving subreddits more control instead of less.

[–]clawhatesyou -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is the petition an emotional response or an logical response?