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[–]ekjp[S,A] 507ポイント508ポイント  (288子コメント)

It was hard to communicate on the site, because my comments were being downvoted. I did comment here and was communicating on a private subreddit. I'm here now.

Edit: missing space

[–]Zouden 413ポイント414ポイント  (16子コメント)

Well, that's what /r/announcements is for.

[–]thefoolofemmaus 226ポイント227ポイント  (7子コメント)

And /r/blog. And "toggle sticky". Really, she has plenty of tools to get the above message out. "But downboats" rings hollow.

[–]allthefoxes 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Stickies won't make it show on the front page

[–]thefoolofemmaus 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am positive that the backend developers could solve that problem if they really put their minds to it.

[–]allthefoxes 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, but ay development takes time.

[–]LacyBlackKnickers 43ポイント44ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah but that would involve understanding how reddit works. And we all know Ellen Pao can't manage that.

[–]throweraccount 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Funny thing is that she has staff that could point all that out to her, yet nobody has or they have and she has yet to listen to them. Someone could have guided her much like someone guided lots of celebrities in working their way through reddit efficiently.

[–]--putty-- 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

She would understand if she understood how reddit worked.

[–]Ghost17088 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tools that should be used sparingly for only the most dire situations, lest they lose meaning. Its not like Reddit is in a downward spiral.

[–]wachet 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

They have a blog. Seriously.

Not surprising that she doesn't seem to know how to use the site, though. I mean, she tried to post a link to an inbox message the other day.

[–]xMithrandir 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah exactly, if she had really wanted to make an announcement before she could've, I don't know, literally done what she did like 15 minutes ago.

[–]AnOnlineHandle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then the circlejerkers would just scream about how she's cheating to dominate the discussion and not relying on democracy which reddit is about, or something. You know there's no way anything she did wouldn't be spun into hysterical hatred by them.

[–]alienith 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the subtext of that statement was "We were also waiting for people to calm down a little bit"

[–]demeteloaf 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, I think important announcements to redditors belong in random threads in /r/sysadmin.

Isn't that where they're supposed to go?

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    [–]14thCenturyHood 522ポイント523ポイント  (75子コメント)

    Why are you all of a sudden regretting things that have been years in the making? This is so far from genuine it's almost laughable.

    [–]mat20068 323ポイント324ポイント x2 (26子コメント)

    Hmm maybe this is why she doesnt like commenting on reddit

    [–]persona_dos 72ポイント73ポイント  (18子コメント)

    Nope. Can't be the childish antics and aspersions cast her way. Nope.

    [–]farbenwvnder 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Should you be reddit CEO if you can't handle downvotes and criticism?

    [–]curtdammit 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    How dare you use logic?!

    I think it's just easier for everyone to be mad; and hop on the resign/fire Ellen Pao circlejerk train, than it is for them to actually take time to think for themselves, and form an opinion.

    [–]bunglejerry 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    You mean not everyone likes being called a "whore" and having threats of violence constantly tossed their way?

    [–]dee_c 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    They are trying to run Reddit like Facebook. Users are responsible for the content and the experience while Facebook/Reddit offer a platform that they tweak/change/upgrade/downgrade/etc and then make all of their money from advertising and promotion.

    Unfortunately, Redditors are slightly smarter than Facebook users. Granted I think redditors are fucking idiots, but they are more self-aware than Facebook users who start "sharing" chain-mail about Zuckerberg saying he's going to start charging for facebook accounts.

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      [–]kerovon 32ポイント33ポイント  (3子コメント)

      To be fair, Ellen Pao only joined reddit in (I think late) 2013, and only became CEO in Nov 2014. I have a hard time blaming her for some of the mistakes and screwups that started before she was involved in reddit.

      [–]koproller 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      exactly!

      Nothing fucking changed on Reddit. Admins still ignore mods. Reddit still bans subreddits that will bring them negative publicity. Reddit still fires people without giving a reason.

      This is going on, like you said, for years.

      Al this hate for /u/ekjp is complete and utter bullshit. It's so insane that it's borderline psychotic. She became CEO in November 2014. She didn't change a goddamn thing about our reddit experience.

      [–]BloodInMySaltStream 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Right. But communicating how to fix them, or what needs fixing IS her responsibility. Sticking your head in the sand and doing nothing, OR not talking about plans for the future and ignoring requests for communication - she is fully culpable.

      [–]Diplomjodler 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      If you look at the way the mistaking and screwing up has been intensifying since she came on, it's hard to not blame her.

      [–]grosslittlestage 394ポイント395ポイント  (8子コメント)

      Hint: she doesn't actually regret anything

      These are business people who give zero fucks about Reddit except for what it's price will be once they finish monetizing it and sell it. Aaron Swartz was an idealist, but he's gone, so we're left with a lawsuit-happy MBA and the asshole popcorn guy. What do you expect from that leadership?

      [–]RiotDesign 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Honestly, reading the apology reminded me too much of the way a child apologizes when they're not really sure what they did wrong. They say "I'm sorry, I really am" and when you ask why they are sorry it was "for making you mad" not for what they did to make you mad in the first place.

      [–]FPHThrowaway1234 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

      you mean like fucking those married dudes to advance her career or bilking that fire departments pension fund?

      [–]lukien 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Don't forget she asked for the exact amount from her ex employer that covered her hubby's ponzi scheme.

      [–]FPHThrowaway1234 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I wonder if she regrets losing that frivolous law suit?

      [–]Half_The_Battle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Wasn't really frivolous since many of the people who worked there thought she had a case.

      [–]Redxl1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'd say people do oblivious and dangerous things for those they love, correlation? Is that a word?

      But considering how unrepentant many hedge fund/wallstreet assholes can be, I'd rather see them burn, including those who would be just as ethically vile to defend those actions.

      [–]Froghurt -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Aaron Swartz was an idealist, but he's gone, so we're left with a lawsuit-happy MBA and the asshole popcorn guy.

      Goddamnit stop using a dead person's name to push your own agenda. Aaron wrote some code for this website and thus was included as a founder. THAT WAS IT.

      Other than that he was without a doubt what some would call a SJW.

      Not to mention that before he died he was working at ThoughtWorks, who now has an annual Aaron Swartz award. I also worked there so I can assure you that they are a pro-socialist, pro-feminist company who has special programs to hire and promote women and minorities. They give days off to go protest or volunteer and during a black lives matter protest they shut down HQ and the entire in office staff went out to participate. We have open, company wide conversations about things like using gendered pro-nouns (don't do it) and office parties always include social justice workshops. They even have a director of social justice. From what I know through mutual co-workers, he would have been sick over people using him to defend racism and harassment- which may not be quite what this idiot was doing, but I've seen it enough for it to be upsetting.

      Source

      [–]Frisian89 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Just another chore

      [–]EruptingVagina 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Maybe because of massive community backlash? Maybe because she's human and responds to criticism just like everybody else?

      [–]yishan 53ポイント54ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Because she's not really responsible. She's been in the job for a few months and is cleaning up the mess I made.

      The way redditors have been treating Ellen is eerily similar to how Republicans blamed Obama in his first years of the presidency for the problems he was working on fixing that were caused by the Bush administration.

      EDIT: hey reddit staff, can I have an alum distinguish?

      [–]99639 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

      She has done plenty in her short term here to upset a lot of people, all on her own. The things that happened before she arrived are why people are angry at the admins in general, rather than just Ellen in particular.

      [–]G_Comstock 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Fair play for taking whatever portion of the flak is your due.

      [–]A_WILD_CUNT_APPEARED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Really man,they day the content creators leave this site its gonna die a long and horrible death.

      [–]idleservice -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It's totally different, I mean, you don't have corruption charges, do you?

      [–]pfftYeahRight 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

      It seems to me like she's regretting the fact that they didn't realize how big of a deal it was. I don't know. Rather than the vague "regretting things that have been years in the making" it's regretting their bad response to those specific things. In essence, regretting the very thing people are upset about, and that they let it get this bad.

      [–]frankenmine 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Just say Streisand Effect, for short. It covers all of this.

      [–]Snaaaaaaaaaake 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

      You know what. I think you're wrong. I think she actually is being genuine and if she didn't want to do this job she would have left by now. The door was open for her and she could have taken other opportunities. Instead, she's here, saying she wants to work with you and she hasn't given up yet.

      GIVE HER A BREAK.

      [–]99639 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Other opportunities? For a sexist lawsuit happy ex-ceo who caused a user revolt on her last project and a petition with over 150k signatures asking her to be replaced? Who would dare hire her, all she brings to the table is the threat of baseless lawsuit and poor leadership.

      [–]jimtakesthecake 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Why so pretentious?

      [–]Engekomkommer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'll play devils advocate here... It's possible to do what you think is best for a long time, realize what you thought was best wasn't, and regret not seeing that sooner.

      [–]Nickompoop 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Dude, that's how an apology works. The admins are acknowledging that they fucked up, and that they're promising to fix it.

      Honestly, I feel bad for the admins; Reddit users clamor for a response, then when they get one, they reject it out of hand as "not genuine." It's like you don't actually want to forgive Pao and are just looking for a way to stay pissed at her and the other admins.

      What more do you want?

      [–]thegoldenmandenis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Why are you all of a sudden regretting things that have been years in the making?

      If they've been years in the making then it's not her fault, is it? She didn't work for reddit before about late last year.

      [–]Kavis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      ITT: People who can't accept an apology with a shred of grace or dignity.

      [–]Takuza 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      shut the fuck up

      [–]sauceDinho 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I thought she was a fresh CEO so how is it "years" in the making?

      [–]buriedinthyeyes 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      she's apologizing for other people's policies to get this ridiculous witch hunt off her back, because clearly apologizing just for her own work isn't enough. if i were here i'd apologize for apartheid and the holocaust while she's at it, although i doubt it'll do much....

      [–]koproller 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      exactly!

      Nothing fucking changed on Reddit. Admins still ignore mods. Reddit still bans subreddits that will bring them negative publicity. Reddit still fires people without giving a reason.

      This is going on, like you said, for years.

      Al this hate for /u/ekjp is complete and utter bullshit. It's so insane that it's borderline psychotic. She became CEO in November 2014. She didn't change a goddamn thing about our reddit experience.

      [–]lazydrumhead 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      How else does regret work, exactly?

      [–]epicblob 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Because if Advance hears that the majority of a userbase doesn't like the CEO of a company then she'll be kicked out. She's at least trying, which is good. I don't think that reddit can be turned around, but at least the admins are somewhat aware of their fuckups.

      [–]tashidagrt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      July 10, no reddit day.

      [–]Froghurt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      What the fuck do you want? She doesn't make a statement, you're mad. She makes a statement, you're mad too.

      [–]Irishfury86 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You're right. People and organizations can't change their minds.

      [–]AceSu 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      They aren't regretting shit, trying to damage controll that's all. With the change.org shit that we have been pressuring her with, its about time she make some comment that deliver empty promises like they always do.

      [–]imsorando 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      all the upvotes she is recently getting is really questionable as well.. lol

      [–]roborious 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

      On that note, why not revert some of these changes you made that you deeply regret. That would show that you mean it.

      [–]AnOnlineHandle 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Which changes were made by her? Some people speculate that she fired the IAMA PR lady, but we won't know if she did, or why she was fired, but we automatically demand that the CEO hire her again blindly?

      [–]stanley_twobrick 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Oh no, we're also demanding that this unqualified girl who got fired for who knows what to be hired as the new CEO!

      [–]BunniesWithRabies -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This doesn't excuse recent shoddy decision making, but she only joined in 2013 and became CEO in 2014. The "years in the making" things aren't her fault, but the recent mishandling could well be

      [–]IIIMurdoc -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Obviously she regrets this mysoginistic community being so 'uppity' about her plans to make Reddit a 'safespace'

      [–]99639 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Can't tell if Poe's or not...

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        [–]Llim 82ポイント83ポイント  (14子コメント)

        She's got a point. It's pretty hard to have a real discussion when everything she says ends up -2000

        [–]AMarmot 43ポイント44ポイント  (8子コメント)

        To be fair, I think what everyone wanted wasn't a discussion, it was a statement, like this one, as of 48 hours ago.

        Whether she's downvoted to oblivion or not does not impact the visibility of a statement made in /r/announcements, and frankly, that's pretty much the purpose of this subreddit - it's a soapbox for potentially unpopular posts that the admins need to make about the state and direction of the community.

        [–]supergauntlet 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

        I mean all this shit happened over Independence Day weekend, when everyone is with their family or out having a good time, and most companies have Friday off.

        I don't think I have a problem with the apology being posted now, I'm more interested to see if they'll keep their promises.

        [–]Kalium[🍰] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

        That explanation would go further if there hadn't been other media communication in the same period.

        [–]supergauntlet 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        yeah thats definitely true.

        Maybe they wanted to put together a more cohesive response for reddit? That's all I can think of honestly

        [–]Kalium[🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        That's about all I can think of in terms of positive explanations.

        [–]AMarmot 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I mean all this shit happened over Independence Day weekend, when everyone is with their family or out having a good time, and most companies have Friday off.

        The amusing thing is, if they had stayed absolutely silent over the last three days, I'd actually agree with you - I'm not inhuman, people deserve scheduled holidays, and sometimes time to reflect before making considered comments and statements is absolutely necessary.

        They weren't silent though. They commented the day of, they commented throughout the weekend, and they were in some level of damage control the entire time, with actual news outlets like Time and Buzzfeed getting pullquotes. I mean, if you're going to give the media an official comment before posting a comment on your community-driven site, do you really believe in the community? Shouldn't you post the comment here, and direct traditional media towards this source instead?

        [–]FleenersPeener 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        She's the CEO... Plenty of people work on holidays to keep the company running.

        [–]Reil 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        It does, actually. There was one post recently that I was lucky to have seen at all because it went straight into the negative thousands shortly after I spotted it on the frontpage.

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          [–]sinsyder- 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Yet gilded many times over. Weird.

          [–]Nushuktan-Tulyiagby 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          That's the problem with this site, its a hive mind and no one can have a different opinion.

          [–]SoundBearier 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Pretty sure she controls up/downvotes. Shouldn't have been a problem.

          [–]4ringcircus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Yeah, because the fucking CEO can't sticky their own shit. This isn't some jerk off posting crap memes on /r/AdviceAnimals.

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            [–]Leninator 213ポイント214ポイント  (26子コメント)

            It's pretty absurd the way that redditors demand a reply, and then downvote you when you provide one.

            I also completely understand why you'd go to a third-party website to announce stuff over the place that was literally comparing you to hitler and calling for physical violence against you.

            [–]alienith 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Exactly. People were clamoring for some response from the admins, and now that the admins have spoken, there is nothing but criticism. They at least deserve a chance to try and make amends

            [–]codeverity 48ポイント49ポイント  (3子コメント)

            I think people forget that downvoting actually hides comments from view - either because they have RES or because they have their settings set a certain way, or maybe they just don't care. I get that downvoting her into the -1000s gives some petty satisfaction but giving people the chance to see what she's saying seems more important.

            [–]thisoneorthatone 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Everybody complaining she doesn't understand how the site works yet they still can't understand the concept of reddiquite. Upvote if it contributes to conversation, downvote if it does not.

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              [–]99639 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              There is a reddit blog, why not post there? She is just crying victim again. Yeah the CEO of reddit has just no way to get a message out because of those big bad meanie misogynists on reddit!

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                [–]Sunshine_Bag 56ポイント57ポイント  (9子コメント)

                You literally are the CEO of the site. You can have your messages be at the top of EVERY SINGLE SUBREDDIT AT ONCE.

                [–]supergauntlet 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                and have everyone bitch and moan about how ellen pao abused her CEO position to force her post to the top?

                not fuckin likely

                [–]mrawesomebroseidon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Yeah like that'd go over well

                [–]bunglejerry 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                There'd be no backlash to that, none at all.

                [–]timmy6591 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I agree with Gabby Johnson....

                [–]nic0nic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                That would be another reason for hating her, if she would impose her thoughts with the force here...

                [–]fluffywhitething 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                And then everyone would be crying about how she abuses her power to force her message to be seen. There is literally nothing she can do that will not earn her complaints. She's made an announcement. Things are in the works. Let's see where this goes.

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                  [–]stapler8 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Don't downvote her responses, everyone. She won't care about losing her internet points, but others will want to see the messages, which can be hard if they're buried from negative karma.

                  [–]36DD 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  It's actually pretty easy to see responses, just click on her username, even if stuff is downvoted you can see every response there.

                  [–]Whubwhub 49ポイント50ポイント  (29子コメント)

                  I'll be honest, refreshing and seeing your score drop from -100 to -500 in one go is a pretty big deterrent to actually being seen...

                  [–]Im__Bruce_Wayne__AMA 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  The comment you responded to has jumped +100 in an equal amount of time.

                  [–]ekjp[S,A] -83ポイント-82ポイント  (25子コメント)

                  Yup.

                  [–]THAT_NOSTALGIA_GUY 33ポイント34ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  An announcement post would have easily been seen, just like this one right now. Why would downvoting deter you when you could have made a top level post that is guaranteed to be seen?

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                      [–]JackassWhisperer 36ポイント37ポイント  (4子コメント)

                      Your comments were being downvoted. But couldn't you have responded like you did with this announcement? A text submission in a Reddit announcement subreddit would skyrocket. Like they always do.

                      And then start your campaign to other outlets.

                      [–]AClassicCape 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      Coulda. But look at the votes. 400 points, 2300 votes.

                      [–]JackassWhisperer 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Yes. And the only people that can submit to /r/announcements are Admins. So even if it doesn't "skyrocket," it's still not going to go anywhere. Her message would still be heard.

                      That didn't happen.

                      [–]ItsMeCaptainMurphy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      They froze the votes on a previous announcement. They could do the same for this one.

                      [–]DwelveDeeper -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      This makes a good point.

                      She could have edited the announcement with each question she answered if her responses were being downvoted as well

                      [–]slice_of_pi 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      You had the option to make an announcement four days ago. I don't believe /r/announcements was blacked out.

                      Given that your current karma tally is still positive despite obvious brigading of your post history, making a site wide announcement, like the original post here, was well within your ability.

                      I'm calling bullshit.

                      [–]MaryWitch 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Your comment just went from -80 and when I refreshed a minute later it's on +245 ?

                      [–]I_smell_awesome 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      I mean... You probably should have made a post before speaking to buzzfeed of all places before reddit.

                      [–]Butcher_Of_Hope 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Giving some reports a bi-line for a story versus actually making a plan to address issues are two different things. We are also going to be more critical and ask more in depth questions than a reporter from CNN or Buzzfeed.

                      [–]Carinhas 61ポイント62ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      It's hard to communicate on the site when you don't even know how to use it.

                      [–]UnicornFritters 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      It's really ironic to me how lack of communication is what people are screaming for, yet they downvote you and hide your comments from the masses cause of all this herd mentality. It's a shame, honestly.

                      Edit: The comment is positive now

                      [–]tyereliusprime 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      If more Reddit users followed Reddiquette, the site would be marginally better. I don't care how much people dislike Ellen or Alexis, I'd like to read their responses without having to search through a barrage of crap comments.

                      [–]UnicornFritters 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Yeah. I'm so sick of seeing some dumbass say "DAE charimen pao xD" get 1000 upvotes while an comment adding to the discussion gets downvoted a million times.

                      [–]teleekom 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Because this site is full of fucking children, that's why

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                        [–]zeug666 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Uh, isn't that what this post is, a way to communicate to the site that isn't (can't) be set to private?

                        [–]rokthemonkey 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        It is kind of bullshit that everything you say gets downvoted to hell. I mean, I don't like you either, but downvoting someone just because you don't like them seems petty.

                        [–]IronIceMan 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        But you couldn't make a post like this?

                        [–]Sacrix 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        You say you want to improve?

                        Prove it.

                        [–]MuayThaiJudo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Why was Victoria fired?

                        [–]russotiquerra 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        yea, dont worry your interviews on ABC regarding kleiner perkins made it to /r/videos most upvoted :)

                        [–]tiercel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Hard doesn't mean you don't try, if it's important. That one comment got linked all over Reddit, so people did see it, despite the downvotes (which I think was an attempt by some to communicate with you). Hopefully you'll see that communication, even when in disagreement, goes a long way.

                        [–]Smoochy32 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I get that it's difficult to answer questions in comment threads and have it be seen when people downvote, but couldn't you have made an announcement just like this one earlier?

                        [–]Dwood15 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Thank you for responding, though I think you could participate a bit more on the site, so people could get to know you better.

                        [–]TheRaymac 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        That's your excuse? You were getting downvoted? If only there was a way for you to make /r/announcements

                        [–]MEMES_IN_MY_ASSHOLE 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        You could have made one of these posts in the first place. You didn't though. Instead, you went to Buzzfeed and insulted the "loud minority". You know, the people who manage your website and make content for your "moral majority"?

                        [–]unicibusipsisunicior 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Okay, I am not a long-time reddit user, but I think it is not okay to ruin your life. No person deserves such hatred, and I sincerely hope you're trying to improve everything.

                        Nevertheless, it looks like you fucked up a tiny bit, but I am totally okay with that if you're trying to make it better for anyone.

                        P.S: Sorry for my (possibly) bad english, I am not a native english speaker.

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                          [–]shamelessnameless 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          you know why the comments are being downvoted though right?

                          [–]WhyDoges 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          You could had disabled downvotes temporarily on the subreddit then. It's not like you don't have the power.

                          [–]Ryzzer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Roughly 2 years too late. Sorry.

                          [–]paiute 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          You seem very tone deaf for someone who aspires to be a successful CEO. I think you need an adviser to look over your ideas before you pull the trigger.

                          [–]ScrabbleDudesGF 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Why didn't you come straight to /r/announcements? The faster the explanation, the better redditors would have felt.

                          [–]randomaccount1451435 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Many of the users have lost the belief that the reddit administration is working in good faith with the community, to the extent that many simply just don't feel comfortable with you in position of influence with the company. That said, Ellen, why haven't you stepped down from your role at ceo yet?

                          [–]awoeoc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Here's a feature request I'm sure many would like: A way to always see responses by OP of post.

                          Not just this post but horrific AMAs tend to have an issue where I'd actually like to see the responses (if just to know why everyone hates it) but they've all been downvoted to oblivion.

                          [–]Kikool42 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Perhaps you should do something so that an admin's comment doesn't get buried by the downvotes.

                          Anyway, thank you for realizing you made a mistake and thank you for communicating.

                          [–]TheStroomis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          When are you going to resign? The majority if reddit users want you gone because you're incompetent at your job.

                          [–]ThinKrisps 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Stop making changes, and stop censoring things. We could move past this whole thing if you just leave everything the hell alone.

                          [–]noinfinity 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I think its ridiculous that you couldn't find a way around that being an admin on the site and all.

                          This shows that you aren't really dedicated to the issue and are not willing to put time into getting your point across.

                          [–]hm_rickross_ymoh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          'All my comments were being downvoted' Yeah. Take the hint and kindly fuck-off.

                          [–]adamsfallen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Was your comment you're referencing before or after your third-party news sites? It appears to be significantly after several interviews...

                          [–]Jantr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          So maybe this points out a fundamental flaw with the way reddit works with this large of a user base?

                          [–]s-blade 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Great example of how redditors are completely misusing downvotes. Good job reddit

                          [–]NowThatsAwkward 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          This is the first step in a process where everyone, admins and users alike, are trying to feel out the new dynamic.

                          Hopefully the communication and relationship between the owners of the site and the majority of the users will follow this fledgeling path of admins listening to what the users say, and users giving the admins a chance to speak.

                          With more effective communication and less hyperbole, this could really go in a better direction in the future.

                          [–]NeedToCumRightNow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Your comments are downvoted because you're mean.

                          [–]catpor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Wouldn't it make sense if [A]dmin tagged posts were given priority for visibility regardless of up/down-vote numbers?

                          [–]saabr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          What happened to victoria?

                          [–]I_Am_Not_Ellen_Pao 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I'm glad I'm not in your shoes right now.

                          [–]abacabbmk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Then why didnt you do what you just did now, and post in /r/announcements? Im sure one of your employees could of given you that tip.

                          [–]Hstrike 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          "My comments were being downvoted".

                          Then make a sticky apologize post. Everyone would see it, even if downvoted.

                          We had to wait 4 days for an official response, and this is the only BS you come up with?! Shame.

                          [–]notrb 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I believe a large of the community wants to see a response to the following:

                          https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3cbo4m/we_apologize/csu0f0v

                          [–]traverseda 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Which private subreddit?

                          Trust, but verify. Given all the leaks I would have presumed that if you had addresed the issues we would have heard about it.

                          [–]flurpimus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          https://www.change.org/p/ellen-k-pao-step-down-as-ceo-of-reddit-inc??

                          [–]glassshield 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I think it was/is a mistake to interpret everything that has happened as a result of the concerns of moderators. There are other important issues that definitely need to be addressed. Hiding in /r/DefaultMods and allowing those users to determine the outcome of this was the wrong move. You can choose to ignore the concerns of the community at large, but don't act surprised when more protests arise in the future.

                          [–]Alyssum 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          This site has a dedicated channel for distributing information from the administrators to the users (also known as /r/announcements; you seem to have found it). I find it incredibly unprofessional to address third party news media days before an official announcement is made to your own user base. Your actions so far have only served to further alienate Redditors and make you seem entirely out-of-touch with both the service Reddit provides and its community.

                          [–]kindraness 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          But, you posted this announcement and it's front page. I don't buy that for a second.

                          [–]Shadow703793 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Hard to communicate eh? Why didn't you make the /r/announcement post/posts days ago and open up the communication channels. Nice try though. 3.25/10 for effort.

                          [–]its_always_right 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Yeah you commented on it in a niche sub. One that is relatively small. /r/announcements would have been a much better choice.

                          [–]blufr0g 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          That's a horrible excuse. Why not post to /r/announcements like you did finally today? so why did you wait? why Buzzfeed before /r/announcements?

                          [–]touchedbyamallangel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I'm sorry I called you a gook on the 2nd, Ellen

                          There might be a too little too late aspect here but we do appreciate you making some sort of effort

                          [–]Thorneblood 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Well, I for one rather respect ya Ellen. Don't let the keyboard monkeys get ya down, all they do is hoot and throw shit at each other anyway. If it wasn't you it would be some other manufactured target for them to vent on.

                          [–]SlitSlayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          "It was hard to communicate on the site, because my comments were being downvoted." -Reddit CEO

                          BAAHHHHAAAAAA WTF!@#!@#111one

                          http://i.imgur.com/46al4us.png

                          [–]ichbineindonut 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          You user history isn't showing many downvoted comments in that timeframe.

                          Between twelve days ago and the time this post was made it shows three comments.

                          Honestly, I'm surprised that you comment so infrequently in general.

                          I'm not here to throw stones.

                          I can't imagine the personal stress you must be going through with your life in addition to being a mother. Even if people may not agree with your position or choices, I would hope they could see you as a human. From one human to another, I hope you have better days.

                          [–]SpaceOdysseus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Does the sight have no way for you to pin an announcement to the top?

                          [–]_Guinness 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          It was hard to communicate on the site, because my comments were being downvoted.

                          So essentially what you are saying is either:

                          1) You were scared to communicate with us because of downvotes? Seriously? No wonder you want to create safe spaces...

                          or

                          2) You didn't communicate with us because the downvotes would make your comment disappear? Which is bullshit because you have the reddit blog, you have /r/announcements, hell you can probably sticky your post to the top of all of reddit (or write up some quick code to do so)

                          You're the leader of reddit, and you're either AFRAID of it, or you don't know how it works. And judging by the fact that you submitted a link to your private message inbox to a public subreddit, it seems to be pretty clear that you don't know how this place works.

                          Which is just laughable because again, you are the leader.

                          [–]SharpKeyCard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          No no no, you don't get to say, 'Oh but I commented!' No. You have /r/announcements and other subreddits for a reason. You don't get to tell media outlets how sorry you are and THEN make some half baked CYA apology to your user-base.

                          [–]Atomica 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Fake, half hearted damage control apology...

                          [–]Tor_Coolguy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Your very few comments were being downvoted but everyone who was interested found and read them. Hence their being downvoted so much. This is unlikely to be the real answer to the question.

                          [–]supergauntlet 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I never got why people downvoted you when you were trying to communicate. All that does is make it harder to actually have any sort of conversation with the admins.

                          And then people complain about how you made statements on buzzfeed first. You can't win. This is like downvoting someone on their own AMA and then complaining about how they 'didnt answer any questions,' maybe that wouldn't have been a problem if you hadn't gone through someones entire post history and downvoted all of it?

                          [–]qtx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Have an upvote, hope it helps to keep at least one of your comments visible.

                          [–]Mackin-N-Cheese -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Hard to communicate? What about using a post just like this one instead of commenting in obscure and private subreddits?

                          [–]thejournalizer 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          It was not an obscure private subreddit, it was a subreddit for the default mods, which realistically we started the protest. She made about four comments two days ago.

                          We're waiting for the fervor to die down so we can have a real conversation with more detailed plans. I don't know when that will happen.

                          [–]Mackin-N-Cheese 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I get that, but she's responding to a question about communicating with reddit as a whole. Commenting on a subreddit for the default mods doesn't seem like a very good way to do that.

                          [–]SpaceSteak -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Maybe you were missing a frivolous lawsuit or two against the downvoters?

                          [–]pWHOp_ -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          You should learn to use the product of the company you pretend to lead.

                          [–]SwampFoxer -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Ellen, you need to face the facts: You are being downvoted because you don't understand the overall community of Reddit, or even how it works, let alone how to effectively manage it and also use it to make money for investors/employees.

                          It's time for you to step down.

                          [–]DoctorWaluigiTime -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          That's not fair.

                          I know it's Ellen, and I'm not commenting on any actions or measures she's taken outside of the reddit comments.

                          But the Reddit posts themselves should be upvoted/downvoted based on the relevance to the threads in question, not based purely on the person who posted them. It's not "sending a message", it just hides posts that people are asking to see.

                          [–]SwampFoxer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Indeed, the downvoting is not fair, but it's the fact of the matter.

                          [–]Fletch71011 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Honestly it doesn't make sense that you went to other outlets before us. It makes the impression that you really aren't putting Reddit first when it is your job to do so. It feels like a slap in the face to the community.

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