We apologize

desmunda1 · 33分前

So anyway why did you go on to give detailed statements to thirdparty newsfeeds first, before speaking to us? The place with the tagline 'the frontpage of the internet'? The people you slighted in the first place? Hell even buzzfeed got info before this statement from you...

Edit: Ellen responded to me, but I anticipate she will be heavily downvoted so here's the reply

"It was hard to communicate on the site, because my comments were being downvoted. I did comment here and was communicating on a private subreddit. I'm here now."

DoctorDank · 27分前

Your second to last paragraph is spot on.

These are just words.

You haven't actually instituted any reforms yet. To be honest, this just feels like corporate newspeak. You're just telling us what we want to hear. I think you'd ve a better response if you actually instituted the reforms you speak of, instead of just talking about how you're going to do them.

Because talk is cheap.

But, at least you acknowledge that the way you went about dismissing Victoria was utterly tone-deaf, and very disrespectful to the (unpaid, hard-working) moderators who relied on her in order to make their subreddits the very best.

Oh wait no, you totally didn't do that either. You just say you're acknowledging a "long history" of mistakes, without actually acknowledging them at all!

More newspeak.

So, I don't really know what to make of this "announcement." Guess we'll just have to wait and see if you put your money where your mouth is, won't we?

ucantsimee · 31分前

You've been promising mod tools for longer than I care to remember and they are still "coming soon." At this point your word alone means nothing. Actions will be the way to make it up to the community. Not words. Get to work.

cahaseler · 22分前

Hi Ellen,

/r/IAMA mod here. First, thank you for finally making a statement about this on reddit.

Second, can you go into more detail about the direction you see for celebrity participation on Reddit in a post-Victoria age? Alexis has made some comments to us behind the scenes about your ideas to encourage celebrity participation beyond AMAs, but I'd love to have the conversation in a more public space where everyone can participate.

vorpib · 32分前

How about apologizing for calling your strongest user base insignificant ?

54CymruBeats · 34分前

Okay.

UpstateBrah · 32分前

Well this doesn't sound like an HR memo at all. /s

rfbandit · 33分前

Thank you for finally apologizing on here, instead of through media interviews. Should've come to your community first, instead of the press. But you also miss the point. You say a majority of reddit users don't care. But, those of us who create content for the lurkers care. Acting flippant isn't a good way to get us on your side.

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CaptnRonn · 16分前

A few things beyond a PR statement that would restore my faith in the admins:

Stop shadowbanning users - It was a tool made for spam bots, not to silence dissent. The mere fact that a perfectly legitimate user can be shadowbanned without their knowledge is ridiculous, and it has been happening more and more in the past few months/year
Stop subreddit favoritism - You want to have anti-harassment rules? Great. Enforce them in every. sub. equally. Other meta-reddit subs have to use np links. Why does SRS get away with being able to post direct links with obvious brigading?

Also, /u/ekjp, as much as I would like to think that things are business as usual with you as CEO, you have made some very questionable statements regarding free speech and sexism in tech from a position that is seemingly vacant in logic. The fact that you feel you must talk to major news sites before actually acknowledging your userbase is troubling to say the least. You have done nothing to earn my trust or support, and in fact have done several things to reinforce the opposite. So... prove me wrong?

stagecraftman · 32分前

Why was Victoria fired?

_lilPoundcake · 29分前

sigh

looks like it's another dramawave for us at SRD

thanks for the popcorn at least. tell /u/kn0thing that they do indeed taste good

vubbz · 27分前

TL:DR Version

Anon2971 · 29分前

You're right. They're just words. The same kind of words you've been saying for years.

It's appreciated that you're now apologizing and try to make amends, but I personally won't be believing it until I start to actually see these changes happen, like an explicit explanation/timeline/development details of what tools are being made, or the moderators themselves saying that communication has improved.

Also, a direct response to the Victoria scandal would be good. You don't need to tell us why /u/chooter got fired, but you could at least say if there's now a new point of contact for mods to go to when it comes to arranging these AMAs rather than leaving them high and dry.

sonofaitch · 30分前

The main issue, clearly, is the divide between Reddit the website and Reddit the business. Finding a balance to please both can obviously be quite difficult, but you'd be surprised to see the positive feedback and ideas the communities will have that could prop up the business side if you actively listen. I hope we can better the site thru this.

Some ideas, of course, are crazy (https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyIdeas/comments/3cauxn/community_buyout_of_reddit/) but at least some are trying

brzt6060 · 26分前

You missed the most important points, censorship and transparency.

TheGreatRayPape · 26分前

I like how your apology over a lack of communication wasn't delivered to the people who needed it until you told every other press outlet first.

This has nothing to do with your race, gender, sexual orientation, weight, height, eye color, or any other physical attribute or personal preference in any arena; no matter what light your behavior and decision-making is used to examine your choices here, they universally identify you as completely incompetent as a CEO of a site built on community data aggregation.

Garethp · 32分前

Thanks for the announcement. I wasn't expecting it to actually come. Quick question: Will those devs be communicating with us at /r/Toolbox?

MaskedxAvenger · 33分前

It's absurd how many days it took for this to happen.

karmaranovermydogma · 32分前

I know it's minor, but I appreciate how direct the wording of the apology was. No "I'm sorry if you were upset" or "I'm sorry you feel that way" unlike many "political" apologies; rather it was a straight to the point nostra culpa "We screwed up."

Be interesting to see where this goes.

brock_lee · 33分前

Just remember what happened to Digg.

Wakers · 26分前

We screwed up. Not just on July 2, but also over the past several years

Already trying to deflect criticism away from your own regieme within the opening sentence.

It's not sincere.

Talking to major media outlets before addressing the community on your own social platform demonstrates incompetence.

Not a good start.

"It was hard to communicate on Reddit because of the downvotes."

I'm sorry, what?

You know that people have to read your post before it gets downvoted, right? If you'd have posted anything addressing the concerns it would be at the top of /r/all within an hour, easily.

gitykinz · 33分前

I don't really care what you have to say. This is PR bullshit and you don't have a leg to stand on.

dustlined · 24分前

We're sorry.

aintdatsomeshit · 31分前

https://www.change.org/p/ellen-k-pao-step-down-as-ceo-of-reddit-inc

ploik2205 · 21分前

I dont think this is enough.

The community is what makes reddit awesome,and yet you addressed this issue to other newsfeed (Buzzfeed?seriously?) Before adressing to your own community.

You don't know how reddit works (trying to link your pm inbox)

Gilding of self

Lack of communication

I think this is just a PR answer to ease us honestly.I think you ( /u/ekjp ) need to get more invested on reddit.Learn what is the community and what makes it good and special.Go on a handfull of subreddits and comment/take part of it.

Many people would want your position.And yet you still screwed up.

I hope you take the steps that are needed to improve this site and make the userbase happy with the managing of reddit

It makes me angry to see you say "We screwed up".I think YOU screwed up for the most part

g01d3n · 18分前

PAO, RIGHT IN THE KISSER

                                                                   Resign Please

Squally160 · 33分前

So uh, when are you leaving?

swolejusticewarrior · 32分前

Why did you talk to everyone but reddit, we are the community and you ignored us. Its obvious you don't know much about the community here at all. Why don't you keep working on these positive changes but you yourself should make a real effort to become apart of and involved in the wonderful thing called reddit.

zerogeesus · 30分前

Several Questions:

Can you respond to the change.org petition which is (as of this moment) currently at 170K~ signers and growing?

Will you step down as most redditors currently see you as the problem, not the solution?

How do you plan to gain back the community's trust?

mmss · 32分前

Words are easy, actions are hard.

lostatwork314 · 24分前

Transparency and no censorship please.

yurisses · 14分前

If you're truly sorry for what you've done, do an AMA so you can answer the hard questions. Like what you have to say about shadowbanning people who so far as mention your lawsuit.

Petrarch1603 · 34分前

ELLEN PAO IT'S TIME TO RESIGN

SpontaneousLightBulb · 30分前

What about censorship? Your post is all about placating moderators (which are essentially unpaid employees and do server attention). However there is NOTHING about the overt censorship occurring on Reddit. Posts about Ellen Pao suddenly disappear, Reddit censorship, and other issues that are most certainly NOT harassing anyone end up in shadowbans for users.

Your apology is not accepted.

doug3465 · 31分前

When VC's are pressuring reddit to become profitable (aka destroying the site if done improperly) the CEO can't be a former VC group Sr. Partner. The people who actually know how to keep the site thriving are the moderators, unpaid volunteers. The paid reddit team is becoming more and more out of touch. Out of 38 employees who have ever left reddit, 23 have been in the last 9 months. I'm glad you are actually listening now, but am disappointed it took an entire shut down like this weekend in order to get you to. Also "years" of shitty upper management as you yourself admit.

The tech industry is not about quick profits, not at all. It's about potential. Reddit has tons of it. Don't squash it like many sites before you have done in order to try and get out of the red too quickly via the wrong ways.

ThePatrickSays · 29分前

But remember: most of us aren't interested in this.

bundys · 31分前

So you are not resigning?

B1gWh17 · 31分前

Don't gild! Use AdBlock!

Just say NOPE on July 10th

/r/JustsayNope/

EDIT: Whoops, deleted the 0 when I was adding /r/. Thanks peeps

And it got gilded; ya'll are some odd folks.

CaptainHoek · 31分前

This is gonna be good.

immolated_ · 32分前

REMINDER EVERYONE: DO NOT BUY GOLD IN THIS THREAD

dangerdark · 24分前

Weird. There seems to be a lot of angry people in here for such a small vocal minority.

pretzelbutts · 27分前

lol "lost trust in me" like there was any in the first place.

ni79 · 17分前

Wake the fuck up people. Reddit doesn't care about you or your community. You are one big social experiment data mine. This is the best website in the world for monitoring status quo. Every time big business or governments or a politician does something they study your response like a school of fish. Every crisis, every major sport event, every piece of crap article about a celebrity they watch you. Reddit has trouble monetizing itself, but the data is valuable to someone otherwise Reddit would be gone. Pao is a product of the environment that which she comes from, and it's a heartless, soulless group of cut throat money worshipping robots. Seriously, stop using reddit, they'll just give you a smarter Pao to replace this one and you won't hear about what happens to people.

PavementOnWheels · 3分前

Fine, whatever. Cover your ass after the storm passes. This doesn't seem all that apologetic to me.

My biggest question is this: why have so many valid Reddit posts that speak out against you and other staff members been removed as of late? Seems far too much like censorship for my taste. I think the community has grown more accustomed to a more censored atmosphere, but if something like this had happened even a few months ago the uproar it would've caused would've been on par with the current fiasco.

Shoebox_ovaries · 2分前

Next time before you fuck us, take us out to dinner first.

EquationTAKEN · 2分前

Talk is cheap. You've said most of this before, and no changes have been implemented.

duckacubed · 32分前

Admitting is the first step.

wafflecakes · 27分前

Stop it. You were already going to push these new changes onto us, regardless of our actions or not, so please stop patronizing us.

You DON'T have the answers, you DID shit on your community, via news outlets, and you DON'T have the respect, nor ability to post such a self-serving message.

Get out of here. I'm starting to already.

Bidda26 · 32分前

Where the fuck is Victoria?

Potss · 32分前

Too little too late, you've shown your true colors.

ArtisticProgrammer · 32分前

The users have no confidence in you. You should resign immediately, for the good of the company.

jupigare · 31分前

I appreciate that you guys are acknowledging the problem and at least saying you'll try to fix it. That's certainly better than ignoring the problem or, worse, outright saying one doesn't exist.

I just hope this all isn't a "Please understand" a la Nintendo. Words are better than silence, but they aren't as good as actual tangible change.

NotreDameFootball · 31分前

fritzly · 29分前

Are we just suppose to pm /u/krispykrackers?

Starlightbreaker · 29分前

ok, yeah, sure.

AshenGaming · 23分前

So on top of the fact that you responded well after the little damage control stunt (responding to numerous other websites before making a statement here), you also haven't really made a proper statement. Why, for instance, did you only talk to us after this issue had been brought up? What do you have to say about the fact that the vocal part of the community that you consider a "minority" being the actual content creators for the site. What, also, do you have to say about the fact the content that this website makes is ours and without your userbase you wouldn't have this content. Many, many issues are here that are still to be resolved that could've been answered when they arose, rather than waiting for the "cooldown" of the community. What do you have to say about moderators being stripped of their ability to set a subreddit private even though you say that this is not a place for censorship?

Reddit is going down a very dark road, and without the userbase creating content that fits the "criteria" that Reddit deems suitable, I fear it may just disappear for good.

LectureModeOff · 32分前

A day late and a dollar short, IMO.

pornjesus · 31分前

It's a good thing to apologize and acknowledge you fucked up. Now don't be like that episode of South Park and keep fucking up and keep apologizing. It only works once, okay?

mudclog · 33分前

Looking forward to the improvements in the coming months! And if not, I'm looking forward to the implosion!

TheKrimsonKing · 29分前

"We're sorrrry"

calaber24p · 33分前

To other admins get rid of Pao if you are really serious

scrimaxinc · 33分前

jbeale53 · 32分前

OP will deliver...

y_all_need_JESUS · 16分前

It took you 4 days, a petition which has close to 170000 people wanting you to resign from Reddit to come and apologize. You went ahead and gave statements to other sites first but not to your own community. I guess we now know what your priorities are right. Saving your image. If you're really sorry bring back Victoria.

notp · 32分前

I feel sexually harassed.

lilfoxy16 · 24分前

Why did it take so long for you to acknowledge this PR disaster? Not only that, all you did was promise us you'll do more than promise things. I'd love to see some decisive plans, time lines, and more information as to what led to the meltdown the past few days. We want details.

JustinTimberbeach · 20分前

Here is the link to the petition to remove her:

https://www.change.org/p/ellen-k-pao-step-down-as-ceo-of-reddit-inc

coupland · 19分前

I'm sure you never expected this to be accepted at face value by the vocal minority in the community, but in case you're wondering why people don't care about your apology:

http://i.imgur.com/O5F2jdC.jpg

You've had many, many days to apologize to Reddit. Your silence was loud as thunder.

EDIT: Awww yisss...

dogsrcool_ · 31分前

Thanks for the apology.

DylannStormRoof · 33分前

Apology denied.

edit: Petition to get Ellen Pao fired -- https://www.change.org/p/ellen-k-pao-step-down-as-ceo-of-reddit-inc

BrewFont · 31分前

So you'll be stepping down as CEO, right?

sparkigniter26 · 33分前

Let's hope this actually happens.

Helpmefindsomething · 33分前

Well, this is a first step to transparancy... so thats good I suppose..

Currently, im very excited to see what the next reason is going to be for the Voat servers to die...

Hold_my_Dirk · 30分前

this kinda feels like a "reddit pls" moment from the admins

onciblu · 29分前

We're Sorry

thee_clod · 28分前

For such a major website and problems, the fixes seem pretty vague and amateurish.

HighJarlSoulblighter · 28分前

Marking this to see which promises are fulfilled.

Also: How much free speech are we actually going to have on Reddit? How far down the PC hole will this site go?

illiam · 28分前

When someon is desperate, they will say and do just about anything to convince and manipulate others to benefit their needs.

This statement sounds like someone who is drowning and quite desperate to deceive others to keep themselves alive.

PW_IS_obvious · 27分前

That awkward moment when the asshole everyone's talking about just shows up at the party.

PavementOnWheels · 27分前

It took a petition for your resignation to reach 150,000 signatures before you felt it necessary to apologize? It's a little bit late for damage control, don't you think?

The_Great_Grahambino · 27分前

So it seems like you're just throwing us a bone. The forefront of this issue is, at the bottom line, about communication, you're right. However if you communicate after the fact, then what good is it? Let us know your plans when it directly affects us rather than after the fact when we all find out and blow up about it. How about you take reddit back to the original free speech forum that it was, rather than the heavily moderated speech forum it is today? You lack the fundamental understanding of your users and that's why we're against your stances. We know your plan for reddit is big money which is why subs get taken down rather than hidden. Be straight up with us rather than lying, because it's the damn internet, you will get found out.

This is a step in the right direction, however you have a long way to go.

LastElemental · 27分前

Honestly this means nothing after the comments about the submitters and the people who make this site what it is being "insignificant".

HoHoKyoma · 27分前

Hahaha yeah. No.

Nice damage control though

iron_sites · 26分前

OK nice PR. Thanks will be due when we begin to see that your promise of promises being more than just promises is... well more than just a promise.

Nushuktan-Tulyiagby · 25分前

170,000 people signed a petition wanting your resignation. What are you going to do if that number grows any larger?

Angerfist · 25分前

I am on board with people on this site that actually dont care about all of this. I get my content here because i found it to be better than other places for now, but if something different comes up that proves to be better than the system you have here, there wont be a teary eyed farewell or anything and i'll just go. Its a fucking site that recently suffered from a lot of shitty mismenagement from people that dont give a shit about it or the users. This is a perfect time for a competitor to rise up and i hope someone will grab this amazing chance to come up with something good.

Zaelot · 25分前

Wow. Just wow. First in the myths section you tell us that you only have 28 employers, then you jot this failure down to your "growth". (Also heard you've fired near 30 employees in the last 9 months.) And you are right. Your words are very hard to believe. How about showing some serious action by willfully stepping down?

MarshallMelon · 24分前

Hmm.

Provide some more info as to why exactly the events of July 2nd even needed to occur in the first place and maybe then we'll take you seriously.

pchc_lx · 23分前

Popcorn tastes good.

lazarus22 · 18分前

Ellen Pao gotta go.

SteelOnSteel · 17分前

/R/MANOWAR SHOULD BE A DEFAULT SUB

errl_dabbingtons · 17分前

i don't want your team to respond to comments, why are you apologizing for "the past"? reddit has taken a sharp downturn since you took the helm and envisioned some new Utopian hug palace, removed freedom of thought, and employed shady tactics. You have a history of throwing a hissy fit when you don't get your way but I, along with plenty of other users of this site don't want "change" we want you to stop trying to fix something that isn't broken.

You are such a narcissist that you think that you can fix what's "Wrong" with the internet, but you're only fanning the flames against you. You took control of a beast of a website for resume fodder and it's not going your way. listen to what the actual complaints are.

Censorship needs to cease. you know that word, it's the word that comes before "desist" in all of those letters you've been sent in your life. i'm not saying stopping removing ILLEGAL content, but to completely do an about-face in the way reddit has ALWAYS been communicated is a great way to ostracize the community.

Mass deletions of negative stories about you, SHADOW-BANNING those who dare dissent needs to stop.

I know i'll probaby be shadow-banned for the past two comments i've made in regard to you. and I'm prepared for that. It's a good thing i'm archiving the post right now. so when in the future I can join the thousands you've had silenced like a discount dictator.

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