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[–]donkey90745 708ポイント709ポイント  (49子コメント)

I would not advise #6 Home alone with no alibi?

[–]Vhyce 567ポイント568ポイント  (25子コメント)

NSA, bru. Relax.

[–]lost_mail 252ポイント253ポイント  (24子コメント)

Good guy NSA provides everyone with alibis.

[–]maiwson 110ポイント111ポイント  (22子コメント)

Just Google Snowden, ISIL and Putin multiple times.

[–]mabahoangpuetmo 133ポイント134ポイント  (20子コメント)

Or you know, mention all 3 in a single message.

[–]SmokeMathHeilSatin 202ポイント203ポイント  (19子コメント)

legends say if you're lost in the wilderness, and you shout "allah akbar" three times, you'll see a drone pass overhead.

[–]mupton0916 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Though I know I should resist, Still I must be on their list.

Invasive powers I'm recruitin'

Snowden,

ISIL,

Vladimir Putin!"

[–]antonious13 63ポイント64ポイント  (14子コメント)

Just admit your browsing history from the night in question.

[–]404_UserNotFound 38ポイント39ポイント  (4子コメント)

yeah, I know what social engineering is...good try though. Think I am handing over my JFK assassination hoax evidence to the NSA.

[–]THROBBING-COCK 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Joke's on you, the NSA already has it.

[–]-Tom- 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would like to plead guilty your honor.

[–]triangleman83 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Elderly butts...really elderly butts

[–]Tubes_69 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think I'd rather go to jail...

[–]Auspants 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have to leave webcams on, someone could break in and accuse you of rape.

[–]ChuckVader 1522ポイント1523ポイント  (128子コメント)

If you do get accused of rape, it's because you weren't following the rules and you were basically asking for it.

[–]iwantogofishing 788ポイント789ポイント  (62子コメント)

That's ok, if the accusation of rape is illegitimate, the legal procedure will terminate itself.

[–]Gabato_Luxury_Tours 386ポイント387ポイント  (24子コメント)

The court has a way of shutting that whole thing down.

[–]ObieKaybee 52ポイント53ポイント  (0子コメント)

A legitimate court maybe, college court is an inbred and incompetent bastard child of legitimate court however.

[–]PixyFreakingStix 86ポイント87ポイント  (21子コメント)

That one's... actually true though.

[–]The_Eggsecutive 47ポイント48ポイント  (1子コメント)

Has science gone too far?

[–]sohetellsme 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

lawyers hate him!

[–]delspencerdeltorro 16ポイント17ポイント  (6子コメント)

With an actual court, yes, but not with the farce colleges run (or public smear campaigns)

[–]ArsonKing20 23ポイント24ポイント  (6子コメント)

Not if you go to prison for a rape you didn't commit.

[–]ReadyThor 116ポイント117ポイント  (56子コメント)

Joke is on whoever did this as a parody of what is usually suggested women do to avoid rape. Sensible men prone to be accused of rape because of looks, behavioural anomalies, or proximity to predatory women already have to do this. They're just not vocal about it.

[–]Cthulu2014 212ポイント213ポイント  (42子コメント)

Maybe she should make another one for grown men titled "how to avoid everyone thinking you're a pedophile due to your mere existence around children"

or "how to valiantly sit around and die while women and children get priority during crisis situations"

that would be a real hoot!

[–]Jack_Hat 86ポイント87ポイント  (4子コメント)

"how to avoid everyone thinking you're a pedophile due to your mere existence around children"

step one, don't be an unattractive older white guy

[–]LeverArchFile 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ooooooh, so that's why Reddit has such a problem with this issue.

[–]lead999x 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't be an unattractive guy. Black guys also get called pedophiles too.

[–]brvteforum88 114ポイント115ポイント  (26子コメント)

  1. Take your kids to playground
  2. Have fun with your kids
  3. Wait for your wife to pick up the children and bail you out of jail

[–]phil8248 92ポイント93ポイント  (24子コメント)

In 1987 in our apartment complex I was outside with my 12 year old daughter and her friends. I'd been asked to let one of them spend the day with us while her single Mom ran errands and went on a job interview. The pool was right next to our unit and I think some of them might have been swimming. Anyway, it was me and 4-5 preadolescence females. My wife was inside our apartment. My daughter's friend that we were watching asked me if she could get something from her apartment, which she had a key to, so the 3 of us walked over. That's when a woman who did not know me and saw me enter this apartment with these two young girls called the apartment office. The manager sent the two maintenance men down to investigate. They both knew me since at that time I was working construction and had stopped more than once to bullshit with them while they fixed stuff around the complex. They went to the nosy neighbor and explained that one of the girls was my daughter and the other was a child we were watching for her Mom. The neighbor was nice enough to come over and apologize and I actually thanked her for being vigilant. I guess I'm posting this to show men being suspected around children is not new.

[–]chaz345 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's not new but it has changed. Today it wouldn't have been the apartment office she called,it would be the police.

[–]Jillianmd777 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

No older ladies are still old school and will call the apt office. I had maids come to my apartment while i was gone and my landlord called me within a half hour because he knew I was gone and wanted to make sure they had permission to enter and I wasn't getting robbed by a team of fake maids lol. This was 8 months ago.

[–]fied1k 27ポイント28ポイント  (7子コメント)

What kind of mustache were you wearing at the time? Might explain the neighbors apprehension better.

[–]phil8248 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

At that time I had both a mustache and beard, neither very full. My facial hair seems abnormally widely spaced and when I grow it out it always looks scraggly.

[–]oozles 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was 1987, that was like the mustache golden age. Not having one would have been a better justification for calling the cops.

[–]SullenChoirboy69 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a cyclical pattern for men really, the constant struggle of fathers everywhere

[–]big_cheddars 21ポイント22ポイント  (7子コメント)

I was walking to the pub about a week ago down this empty cycle track at about 8 at night. By one of the paths leading into a street a little kid, idk like 3 or 4, was playing. He kinda wandered out as I came past. Thought it was weird he was on his own, tried to ask him where his parents were, he didn't say a word.

I shrugged and left, didn't wanna be thought of as a paedo, and he was near some houses I guess. Told my mates and they agreed with me, not worth getting involved.

[–]garglemesh42 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

It is sad that men aren't allowed to help lost children find their parents without someone calling the police anymore, but I agree with your actions. You can't take that risk. If you were with a woman, maybe the two of you could have helped - but you on your own, if you're guilty of the crime of being an adult male, no way.

[–]iambecomedownvote 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I got the impression that she was trying to be bitchy but actually pointed out how biased the court systems are against men by accident.

[–]Aetrion 564ポイント565ポイント  (30子コメント)

This is victim blaming! Men should be allowed to dress as rapey as they want without being accused of rape!

[–]Sookye 138ポイント139ポイント  (26子コメント)

...I have a hard time seeing RapistWalks catch on.

[–]danivus 58ポイント59ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well we have to stop all this Rapist Shaming somehow.

[–]PeopleEatingPeople 18ポイント19ポイント  (13子コメント)

I remember a group on Reddit actually trying to make Creepwalks a thing.

[–]greenfly 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are totally right!! You wanna buy some glasses?

[–]Catostomidae 1103ポイント1104ポイント  (344子コメント)

And if you do engage in consensual sex, be sure that you have a written consent form signed by both parties and a witness, then have it notarized. Furthermore, when the act takes place, ensure that both parties consent to being observed by adults and recorder for posterity.

[–]PrinceRkm 126ポイント127ポイント  (0子コメント)

100SexTapeExcuses

[–]1amathrowaway 90ポイント91ポイント  (8子コメント)

[–]garglemesh42 50ポイント51ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wow, so she blew him while he was unconscious (oral sex without consent) and he gets kicked out for rape?

.... I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

[–]Deezbeet-u-z 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Iirc, in the Occidental incident the guy says he has no memory of the act at all. The girl claims to remember up the point of giving him oral, and the beginning of sex... In case you wanted more reason.

[–]404_UserNotFound 32ポイント33ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you are going to record it you have to send nudes to the pataton clerks office to trade mark it so they don't post it, legally, on nude shaming sites.

[–]Vhyce 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never figured Dennis was a progressive on this topic. Makes sense now.

[–]Samthebadass 106ポイント107ポイント  (138子コメント)

There was a law passed in California that makes it so that this is basically how it has to go to have consensual sex with someone. Here's an article about it. http://time.com/3222176/campus-rape-the-problem-with-yes-means-yes/

[–]sgdfgdfgcvbn 171ポイント172ポイント  (135子コメント)

Not exactly, no. They haven't changed the legal definition of consent. They've required universities to take a stronger definition of consent. You aren't in any legal trouble if you don't get affirmative consent. You might just get your ass thrown out of the school.

It's horrifically retarded.

[–]MidnightMateor 78ポイント79ポイント  (12子コメント)

You aren't in any legal trouble if you don't get affirmative consent. You might just get your ass thrown out of the school.

The fact that someone can be deprived of an education from a public institution without ever being convicted of a crime disgusts me.

[–]DarkBladeRunner 141ポイント142ポイント  (93子コメント)

Really? So if as a male I don't give verbal consent to my partner I can retroactively decide to have them kicked out of school? Why is the government still in the bedroom?

[–]sharkiness 304ポイント305ポイント  (33子コメント)

Haven't you heard? Men can't be raped.

[–]my_sfw_alias 86ポイント87ポイント  (20子コメント)

Except in prison.

[–]IIOrannisII 85ポイント86ポイント  (0子コメント)

And who cares about those scummy criminal Subhumans? Don't drop the soap HAHAHA AMIRIGHT!? /s

[–]DingyWarehouse 33ポイント34ポイント  (4子コメント)

In some jurisdictions, the legal definition only accepts male perpetrators

[–]Astrogat 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, men always wants sex, so we consent just by looking at a girl (or by lookraping her, as I like to call it).

[–]A419a 38ポイント39ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nope, Duluth model of sex. If something nonconsensual happens then the man is at fault. There are even cases showing this is how it works.

[–]BrocanGawd 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Government is still in the bedroom because feminists pushed them in there.

[–]queefconnoisseur 103ポイント104ポイント  (42子コメント)

Look, women can't be trusted to do anything, including taking care of themselves. They need rules and laws in place to dictate behavior, otherwise women will just do whatever they're told to do, and then later someone will tell them what they did was wrong or bad and so they'll feel bad. So, they set up rules so they don't ever have to worry about listening to someone.

[–]jakj 60ポイント61ポイント  (27子コメント)

Didn't feminism used to be about empowering women to be independent?

[–]WeirdSandwich 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sadly there is more money and attention in being a victim than there is in being empowered and independent.

[–]GroktheCube 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. And if both parties are drunk, everyone knows that men are so much more responsible and rational in decision making than women that men are obviously still capable of consent even when women aren't.

I'm glad the feminists have recognized how frail and inferior women are intellectually and emotionally. Maybe next they'll advocate for rules requiring male relatives to accompany them outside the house at all times. They might need their hands held crossing the road.

[–]Le_Pecheur2 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then would that mean no drunk person who attends a college can ever have sex again because they're not legally competent at the time of this form of consent?

[–]Intruder313 42ポイント43ポイント  (23子コメント)

I have heard that if a woman changes her mind afterwards you can still be accused

[–]garglemesh42 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Hell, you don't even have to sleep with someone for her to falsely accuse you.

And don't kid yourself - a man can't do that and have anyone take him seriously. Most people still seem to think men can't be raped.

[–]Stillwatch 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was touched sexually by a female Dr when I was 14. I once mentioned it on here and my inbox was filled with "Dude you're a bitch don't complain" from men and a few "well that isn't really rape like we get raped" from women.

[–]jozzarozzer 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's fucking stupid. Apparently you need to be a mind reader and time traveller to not be thrown into jail.

[–]Z0idberg_MD 29ポイント30ポイント  (10子コメント)

Apparently, on a college campus I have raped my wife several times. I began kissing her and we went upstairs to get down and I never asked her verbally if she wanted to have sex. Since she didn't give verbal consent, this could be technically considered rape.

[–]Zian64 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

FBI en route scumbag. Your going away for a loooong time.

[–]dongasaurus 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

Damn I sexually assaulted my wife almost every day during university according to this rule. She also sexually assaulted me every day because I sure don't remember her asking for my enthusiastic affirmative consent.

[–]dingoperson2 28ポイント29ポイント  (128子コメント)

Serious tip: If you're bringing someone home you're not 100% sure about, record the audio.

It doesn't have the reflexive outcry of "made sex tape". It's 80% as useful in defense.

[–]Ramv36 28ポイント29ポイント  (22子コメント)

But what if you are in a 2-party recording consent state? You could be committing a serious crime in attempting to prevent being accused of a serious crime.

[–]SmokeMathHeilSatin 57ポイント58ポイント  (5子コメント)

if there is one message that the government keeps repeating, its that violating privacy in the name of safety is perfectly fine.

[–]thepoliticianbuster 23ポイント24ポイント  (7子コメント)

Probably better if you got convicted for recording than for rape though... the judge would only know about the recording if you presented it as evidence.

[–]Christianawaldemar 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

But since the evidence was illegally obtained it would be thrown out and not used in trial.

[–]dingoperson2 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a good chance this only applies to evidence entered by the prosecution, not the defense. E.g. see my quotes above from the article on the Exclusionary rule.

[–]snarklefruit 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not how that works champ

[–]dingoperson2 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

True, in the handful of states where it's a felony, it might not be worth it. If it's a misdemeanor it probably is.

[–]YouAreSoLying 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Wouldnt be worth it either way, as another user above said, the recording wouldn't be admissible as evidence since it was illegally obtained.

[–]dingoperson2 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Doesn't matter. The majority of states are one party consent states, and in the ones where it's a misdemeanor, it's definitely worth it to release it as it would destroy the credibility of the accuser and shame her into withdrawing accusations. Or gain you a pardon eventually.

Also, are you sure that illegally obtained evidence cannot be entered in defense? Isn't it just for the prosecution? Seems absurd that someone can be found guilty of a crime even if there's evidence which 100% beyond reasonably doubt point to someone else just because that's not admissible. I'm in Europe where pretty much anything can be entered as evidence.

[–]TheNoteTaker 101ポイント102ポイント  (79子コメント)

Serious tip: if you are not 100% sure a person wants to have sex with you then don't have sex with them. If you feel that you must record it to ensure your ass is covered in case this ends up in you being accused of rape just walk away.

[–]PM_Me_Your_Boobs1234 85ポイント86ポイント  (7子コメント)

I feel like crazy isn't always detectable until it is too late.

And no one ever made poor choices while drinking and thinking with their sex organ.

[–]iamcrazyjoe 207ポイント208ポイント  (38子コメント)

Victim blaming. You are saying if he didn't want to get falsely accused of rape, he shouldn't have had consensual sex.

[–]non-rhetorical 91ポイント92ポイント  (8子コメント)

Your willingness to pretend humans can read minds simplifies the equation fantastically. Thanks!

[–]kingssman 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bring a camera. Use a camera

[–]GambitX 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

All men need to wear body cameras at all times in bed. I personally prefer the GoPro 6.9

[–]flemhead3 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Chapelle's Show got it right.

"Kobe" Throws used condom in the trashcan

[–]Bla34112 151ポイント152ポイント  (1子コメント)

I genuinely enjoy the men and women glaring at each other suspiciously.

[–]zerothreefifty7 489ポイント490ポイント  (44子コメント)

couldn't we just teach women not to falsely accuse guys of raping women.

[–]MrFriis 215ポイント216ポイント  (5子コメント)

Having lectures about how NOT to make false rape accusations? I think you are going too far Buddy!

[–]AdolfHitlerAMA 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Would you rather put railing on top of a tall building, or just tell people "don't go near that edge"?

...Society is truly fucked.

[–]zerothreefifty7 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

People can still climb over railings. What we need to do is put a complete dome over the top of the building, also, we should put airbags on the ground around the building.

[–]Ardelic 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

I forgot this was /funny after reading this comment thread

[–]big_ern_mccracken 138ポイント139ポイント  (43子コメント)

My lieutenant used to tell us that if we had sex with a random girl to always take her to breakfast the next morning and take pictures of it. No one is going to get raped and then go eat breakfast with their rapist.

[–]JaxThePyro 78ポイント79ポイント  (69子コメント)

How exactly do you "dress like a rapist"?

[–]Ewrong[S] 160ポイント161ポイント  (48子コメント)

That's the point. It's poking fun at people who say that women shouldn't "dress like a rape victim" or they should "dress modestly to avoid being raped".

[–]potatoisafruit 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

This thread is full of guys who clearly don't get the joke.

Probably all rapists.

[–]presidentiallogin 70ポイント71ポイント  (18子コメント)

Oh, I thought the joke was that casual sex is being reported as rape too often.

[–]PtolemyXIII 57ポイント58ポイント  (15子コメント)

It's not. It's taking the piss out of all of the weird emails colleges send girls about avoiding becoming a victim. Putting it in a context others can supposedly relate to.

[–]iwantogofishing 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ah, the old "look what you made me do". Brilliant, I head it's the main reason behind ISIS actions.

[–]noman2561 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And don't forget the joker.

[–]PtolemyXIII 198ポイント199ポイント  (88子コメント)

ITT a lot of people not understanding that this comic is NOT trying to highlight the problem of false rape accusations, but taking the piss out of the stupid emails colleges often send girls telling them how not to be raped. Mine included gems such as ; 'don't wear tight and provocative clothing but also make sure it's not loose enough for someone to be able to grab.' And; 'long hair is easy to grab, even when tied back. Consider wearing it short.'

In short, this piece isn't supporting the belief that false accusations are widespread. It's taking the mick out of it.

[–]Darth_Corleone 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

As an old man, I had no idea such emails existed. We used to get similar emails but about protecting your valuables and your parked car. I suppose they were trying to help, but it is what it is.

This comic is skewering a lot of things. Pretty well done if you can make a satire of multiple sides of an issue.

[–]Martel_the_Hammer 96ポイント97ポイント  (10子コメント)

Are you sure? I think it's poking fun at both things simultaneously. More or less just showing how silly our society has become on the entire issue.

[–]Lionel-Richie 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

Our society is so silly about this issue! Like how people shame rape victims or dismiss them! What a great wacky jape

[–]whatwouldbuffydo 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, I think the main purpose of the comic is to mimic the rules girls are told from childhood to avoid getting raped. I remember having an girls only assembly in high school where we were told don't wear suggestive clothing, don't go out alone at night, make sure your parents know who you're with at all times. Good general safety rules but throwing in comments about suggestive clothing completely changes the message of the talk. Of course there is the secondary message of false rape accusations which has been mostly commented about here. Such a shitty situation where each side is scared of the other

[–]lurker093287h 21ポイント22ポイント  (38子コメント)

I hesitate to say this but there is some evidence that at least one of those types of things (a comprehensive one not involving how you dress but assertiveness and risk avoidance etc) actually worked.

The risk of rape for 451 women randomly assigned to the program was about 5 percent, compared with nearly 10 percent among 442 women in a control group who were given brochures and a brief information session. “Only 22 women would need to take the program in order to prevent one additional rape from occurring within one year,” the authors concluded.

The risk of attempted rape was even lower — 3.4 percent among women who received the training, compared with 9.3 percent among those who did not.

“It’s an important, rigorous study that shows that resistance and self-defense training needs to be part of college sexual assault prevention,” said Sarah E. Ullman, a professor of criminology, law and justice at the University of Illinois at Chicago, who was not involved in the research. “This won’t solve the problem, but it’s an important piece that has been overlooked.”

I'm sure there are problems with this survey, but I think that it would be interesting to see if somebody could find the factors involved in people accusing people of rape erroneously and have an actual one of these to give guys tips to avoid it happening, but I also think that guys need one of these because iirc the latest cdc surveys have had the level of victims (in the one year interval) at pretty much equal two times in a row.

[–]chomstar 27ポイント28ポイント  (11子コメント)

This sort of misses the point though. There are plenty of ways you as an individual could reduce your chances of being raped. If you wear a chastity belt with steel bars and keep the key hidden, you're pretty much rape-proof. If you wear a porcupine shirt made of needles, chances are you can fend off a rapist.

Just because something works doesn't mean it should be embraced. Plenty of women feel that those rape-protection methods you mentioned (while obviously not as ridiculous as what I said) place an unreasonable burden on them.

[–]captainflyte 12ポイント13ポイント  (9子コメント)

OK so thats nice.

But that is Saudi Arabias stance on this. If women cover themselves and avoid men in all areas of life, as in separated school, don't go out past 6pm, don't speak to men not related to you, you WILL avoid being raped. Do you not see why this is problematic though? If men are so fucking animal that they can't help raping you as long as you show some skin, there is a problem.

[–]Frodolas 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you also have a problem with informational messages about keeping your house safe from being robbed?

[–]Kyle772 250ポイント251ポイント  (60子コメント)

False rape allegations and actual rape allegations are two completely different problems that need to stop being compared.

False rape claims have the potential to literally destroy a person's: career, home life, relationship, friend circle, etc. All physical things that require time, money, and effort to grow and maintain. Even IF you are acquitted of all charges you cannot bounce back. It will have a permanent affect on some aspect of your life.

Actual rape claims have the potential to leave someone fucked up for the next 5-20 years. It can leave them in therapy for long periods of their lives. It can also cost time, money, and effort to get out of that rut. Even IF you can get out of that rut in a short amount of time and continue living a normal life you it will always be there to remind you (PTSD if you get it, most don't; 1 out of three women [1])

They both have their own affects and problems, while they are similar they are completely independent of each other despite them sharing the word rape.


This and other posts like it (satirizing either side) are a cancer to the goals of both sides. Somewhere else in this thread someone said that 5% (I believe it was actually between 2% and 10% but who gives a shit) of rape charges are false. That is too high. To put that into perspective every 5 out of 100 women who are raped are lying about it. That is insane. That is 5 people who are having their lives potentially thrown away because someone just decided to fuck someone else over. That in itself is a problem and people need to stop acting like it isn't because "rape is more important"

THESE ARE COMPLETELY UNRELATED TOPICS. RAPE IS ALSO MORE IMPORTANT THAN SOMEONE STEALING A FLAT SCREEN TV THAT DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE STEALING TVS SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST FUCKING WALK AWAY UNPHASED. BOTH SIDES ARE BREAKING THE LAW. BOTH SIDES ARE FUCKED UP. You can't choose a side on two problems that don't fucking have anything to do with each other.

/rant

[1] http://www.svfreenyc.org/survivors_factsheet_43.html

[–]TheUPisascam 168ポイント169ポイント  (10子コメント)

To put that into perspective every 5 out of 100 women who are raped are lying about it. That is insane

Your post is top-notch, but this isn't true.

First off, scholarly research has found that most rapes go unreported. People usually respond to that with "How can they know?" Well, they do interviews with a ton of people and, many of those people find it comfortable to anonymously report to a researcher that they were raped but are not comfortable reporting that rape to the police for a number of reasons. Maybe it was a friend or family member and they fear what it will do to their family or relationship with others if they report the rape. Maybe they were really young and their rapist made them afraid to tell anybody. Maybe they didn't think they had enough evidence. Maybe the ordeal of going through a criminal proceeding was just too much for them to take after being raped. Regardless, it's safe to say that numerous rapes aren't reported to the police.

Then, you have "false rape accusations." Most of these stats are based on FBI statistics for unfounded rape allegations. That does not mean false rape accusations. That means everything from blatantly false reporting, to suspected false reporting, to not enough evidence.

So, when you take the whole of rapes being committed, far fewer than 5 out of 100 are lying about their rape. Hell, a fair number aren't even talking to anybody about their rape.

I say this as a man who experienced sexual assault as a child and didn't report it because of fear of repercussions. You're right, any false accusations are too much, but when looked at on the whole, actual rape is an incredibly bigger problem than false rape accusations per capita.

In my opinion, we should continue to focus on reducing rape and absolutely crucify false accusers since they ruin the person they falsely accuse against and foster skepticism for actual rape victims.

[–]JUST_another_GOD 34ポイント35ポイント  (2子コメント)

This will seem like a terrible answer, but just two weeks ago I gave a Forensic Victimology Presentation on False Reports. The only thing I can say conclusively is that there are no accurate figures on false rape allegations. I have read statistics from 2% (complete anecdotal bullshit) to nearly 70% (operational definition so fucking flawed I can't believe it got published) there really is no stair answer! If you are interested in the topic check out Kanin (1994 or 1996 can't remember) he had a decent methodology, also the set of red flags by Dietz and Hazlewood (renowned psychiatrist Park Dietz from Dahmer case and Hazlewood retired special agent of the FBI)

[–]Redbulldildo 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

If those FBI things truly included not enough evidence, (Fuck you for making me have 'rape infographic in my search history) These Would have all those faced trials be false accusations.

[–]Hyperbole_-_Police 51ポイント52ポイント  (11子コメント)

Somewhere else in this thread someone said that 5% (I believe it was actually between 2% and 10% but who gives a shit) of rape charges are false. That is too high.

It's virtually the same as the percentage of false accusations for other major crimes. But I never see people up in arms about false accusations of any other kind. When someone's building burns down, I don't withold my sympathy on the off chance they burned it for the insurance money.

[–]shred_wizard 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Many other serious crimes can be more easily proven/disproven with forsensics. Rape is unique in that the "crime" is often devoid of evidence if it was a non-violent rape. This makes it awful for the victim in that they fear they may not be believed or could question if it was rape, but also opens the door to some very serious accusations.

It often turns into "he said she said". This happened to a friend of mine, where we knew it was consensual (she bragged about how good he was to her friends, was hanging out with him immediately after the incident etc), but it didn't prevent him being suspended from college for over a year during the investigation, even after she recanted her statement to the police.

I understand this is the vast minority of cases and would never want to take the focus off rape and its victims. But it's a scary accusation because it can destroy lives with minimal proof

[–]JUST_another_GOD 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This will seem like a terrible answer, but just two weeks ago I gave a Forensic Victimology Presentation on False Reports. The only thing I can say conclusively is that there are no accurate figures on false rape allegations. I have read statistics from 2% (complete anecdotal bullshit) to nearly 70% (operational definition so fucking flawed I can't believe it got published) there really is no stair answer! If you are interested in the topic check out Kanin (1994 or 1996 can't remember) he had a decent methodology, also the set of red flags by Dietz and Hazlewood (renowned psychiatrist Park Dietz from Dahmer case and Hazlewood retired special agent of the FBI)

[–]PeopleEatingPeople 22ポイント23ポイント  (13子コメント)

Do not forget that any percentage about charges only covers reported numbers. These count for both cases, but rape only gets reported 40-50% of the time to the police.

[–]missingmarkerlids 15ポイント16ポイント  (12子コメント)

Actually it's much less. More like 30% https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates Where I live, only 6% of sexual assaults go reported http://www.sexassault.ca/statistics.htm

I was sexually assaulted as a teenager and did not report it because 1)I blamed myself for putting myself in that situation 2) He didn't actually rape me, I managed to get away and lock myself in the bathroom until he left 3)calling the police, trying to track the guy down, going to court so it could be my word against his? no way was I going to put myself through that.

so I took a long hot shower instead.

[–]rruedas 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, this comic is like Reddit's Modest Proposal. Every other comment is about how it's so true.

[–]CapnJAHN 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd recommend checking out OC's Tumblr for more of her work if you liked this. She was my neighbor/babysitter years ago and she's always been great at laughing at current matters.

[–]Sw0rDz 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Am I the only one that thinks that this makes a legitimate point?

[–]Yavares 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have been following the last rule for years

[–]brent0nius 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know whether to laugh at this or cry.

[–]ristorilsm 35ポイント36ポイント  (3子コメント)

We shouldn't have to teach our boys how to avoid false rape allegations, we should be teaching girls not to falsely accuse someone of rape.

[–]no_talent_ass_clown 80ポイント81ポイント  (23子コメント)

Nice turn of the tables. Scathing and on point. Lets guys know what it's like to be a woman who is constantly warned about things she shouldn't do so she doesn't invite a rape.

EDIT: Ho.Ly.Shit. Anyone else hear the whoosh as this satire went over a lot of heads?

[–]dingoperson2 27ポイント28ポイント  (5子コメント)

It feels good actually, since it even acknowleges the existence of false rape accusations.

I am also not sure how committed someone who wants to "turn the tables" about doing X is to not doing X in the first place. Maybe all they want to do is to do X but to a different goal than the original.

[–]that__one__guy 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

It feels good actually, since it even acknowleges the existence of false rape accusations.

is on reddit

Fucking top kek

[–]evileddy 121ポイント122ポイント  (128子コメント)

Shit's true: FROM: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01541619

With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a 9 year period were studied. These false rape allegations constitute 41% the total forcible rape cases (n =109) reported during this period. These false allegations appear to serve three major functions for the complainants: providing an alibi, seeking revenge, and obtaining sympathy and attention. False rape allegations are not the consequence of a gender-linked aberration, as frequently claimed, but reflect impulsive and desperate efforts to cope with personal and social stress situations.”

A better list:

1 Don’t sleep with drunk girls. I know it’s tempting; drunk girls are easy, she was probably drinking because she wanted to have sex and be able to blame it on the alcohol, and anyway, she’s coming onto you so hard. But like we talked about in “Sex and Alcohol”, this is the danger zone; lots of stuff can go wrong here, and it’s better just not to dabble if she’s anything more than just buzzed.

2 Don’t be a dick with her. Can you ask her to leave after sex? Sure. But if you’re a dick about it, that increases the chances she experiences sex regret – then seeks revenge via a false rape allegation later on down the line. Is that fair – you hurt her feelings, and in response she attempts the worst thing she can do to you shy of outright murder? Not at all. But this isn’t about fairness – a false rape accusation is an act of war, on you and your life and sanity and well-being, and fairness as a consideration goes right out the window here. This is about not giving her motivation to screw you over if she’s an emotional, vindictive, hollow human being... because you often won’t know if she is unless and until you’ve crossed her sufficiently.

3 Yet, do be a MAN with her. At the same time, you must not be a pushover. Don’t be a dick, but don’t be someone she thinks is going to fold and take it if she decides to give him a reaming via the state. Instead, just be a cool, strong, dominant man; do the things you’re taught to on this site, and you will be fine in that regard.

4 Keep your reputation above-board and discreet. Don’t go for the “playboy” image if you can avoid it. Every guy I know who’s been hit with false rape accusations – the auto mechanic, the reader in college, the member of our discussion forum – had a reputation in his circle as a “playboy”, which made the women who weren’t cute enough to catch his eye (or otherwise had low self-esteem) come to view him as a “bad person” that they needed to find a way to revenge themselves upon.

In the case of our forum member, he said the girl herself actually said he did not rape her, but the girls around her worked very, very hard to convince her she’d been raped, and started spreading the rumor that she had been even as she fought it, because they wanted to take him down a peg. Manage your reputation; keep things discreet, be friendly-but-platonic with the unattractive or nerdy girls; and don’t let yourself get too much of a player reputation to avoid creating enemies who want to see you fall.

If you do go the “playboy” route, then at least make sure that you make nice with the less attractive girls, be cool with them, be a little flirty with them, etc. Just make them feel good and keep them on your side. ‘Tis better to have friends than enemies.

5 Limit your contact with her social circle if possible. The social circle is the incubator for false rape accusations; if no one in the circle knows you, is friends with you on social media, or has any familiarity with you, they will usually have a hard time trying to pin motivations on you other than what the girl herself tells them, so unless she’s telling them “I think I might’ve been raped” (like what happened with Vince), they’re not going to try to push her to consider her most recent sexual encounter a forced one as often. This is another reason why cold approach is king.

6 Limit how much she knows about you. This one is something of a tragic part of dating, but I’d advise you to if possible let girls have as little info on you as possible until you know them very well. No last names, social media accounts, don’t let them know your address, etc. This one might sound a little paranoid, but especially if you’re picking up girls from bars, clubs, parties, etc., you’re going to get some crazies mixed into the pot; you’ll get some girls with boyfriends or husbands; you’ll get the whole mishmash of women with one reason or another to file a false charge against you.

Basically, don’t give a woman looking for a mark anything to make her job easier. People abandon hard work quite frequently; if it’s hard for her to find your or finger you, she’s more likely to go out and find someone else it’ll be easier for her to file a false rape claim against instead. Again, this is necessarily easier in cold approach than it is in social circle, where everyone knows everyone else already. However, the next one is easier for social, and that is: false rape accusations

7 Try not to sleep with crazy girls or girls who are pushovers. Even if you’re meeting her through social circle, you can never be 100% sure before you’re dating her for a while usually whether she’s batty or a doormat for her empowered female friends. So this isn’t always totally avoidable. But do try to be aware of the group dynamics, and if she’s a nutcase or she lets her radical friends walk all over her, steer far clear of her. Opt for confident, normal, emotionally secure women as lovers and girlfriends instead.

More on false rape: http://www.annalsofpsychotherapy.com/pdf/Winter2008.pdf#page=45

[–]Mundilfari 63ポイント64ポイント  (3子コメント)

Don't have sex. Got it!

[–]keypuncher 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's actually not a good enough defense, where false rape accusations are concerned. The whole concept of a false rape accusation is that you are being accused of something that didn't happen. There's not a great deal of difference between calling consensual sex rape, and calling no sex rape.

[–]Tahrnation 40ポイント41ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think I'll just continue to be a misanthropic loner, thanks.

[–]TheGreyGuardian 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the case of our forum member, he said the girl herself actually said he did not rape her, but the girls around her worked very, very hard to convince her she’d been raped, and started spreading the rumor that she had been even as she fought it, because they wanted to take him down a peg.

Holy fucking shit these are people that need to be removed from society and rehabilitated. You do not spread lies that will ruin someone's life just because you think they could use some humbling.

[–]AdseyV 23ポイント24ポイント  (25子コメント)

Are the stats for definite false claims or just where there is insufficient evidence to prove a charge? 1 victim 1 offender cases are hard to prove is all.

[–]Whatsapokemon 24ポイント25ポイント  (20子コメント)

Link to a pdf of the article I got from google scholar

To summarise the methodology of the article:

It is a study of one police agency in a small metropolitan area (population of 70,000). This agency was selected due to its policy of pursuing every rape complaint, and also having the resources to thoroughly investigate all claims.

"This city was targeted for study because it offered an almost model laboratory for studying false rape allegations"

All false-rape charges were declared as such by the police department after a very strict process, where the criteria includes an admission by the complainant. Charges are not marked as false for any other reason, including an unwillingness to cooperate in the investigation process, or a refusal to pursue a charge. Basically, in this study a false allegation must include an admission by the complainant.

As put by the paper:

The foregoing leaves us with a certain confidence that cases declared false by this police agency are indeed a reasonable--if not a minimal- reflection of false rape allegations made to this agency, especially when one considers that a finding of false allegation is totaUy dependent upon the recantation of the rape charge

[–]gregsg 5ポイント6ポイント  (17子コメント)

All false-rape charges were declared as such by the police department after a very strict process, where the criteria includes an admission by the complainant.

That criterion is an ouroboros of silliness. People can lie about rape having been perpetrated but can't lie when they back down from the charges?

[–]AdseyV 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks heaps for the link and summary.

[–]sotek2345 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

For #1, I would revise it to say if they have had nay alcohol at all. Buzzed is way to far gone already.

[–]jthree2001 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

Don't scroll too far down, might catch cancer...

[–]apple_kicks 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

i see your warning but im going to keep scrolling

[–]that__one__guy 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Down? Lol, this entire thread is cancer.

[–]JohnGalt316 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

carry a mattress and make a porno after you accuse someone to remove all doubt

[–]rebelwithacaue 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't forget to send them a message saying to stick it in your butt

[–]warthundersfw 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

And beg them to come back to you

[–]Dusty170 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love that it sounds like prevention tips for women on how to not get raped, thats the joke I guess.

[–]Pyroteq 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Laugh all you want, but any guys here that work with younger children will know that reality isn't too far off this.

I worked as an IT tech at a girls high school.

During my training I was told to avoid one on one situations with girls, keep my office door open at all times (It got really freakin' cold in winter) and if for some reason I was to come across a girl injured I shouldn't touch them and wait for a female teacher to help them.

So if I see a girl fall over and scrape up her knees I'd basically just stare at her and say "Ummm, well this is awkward, too bad I can't be trusted to help you back up".

[–]justjoshingu 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't be black

[–]imalwaysthinking 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

For #1, this is why a lot of places instruct managers to have one on ones in a room with windows. If there are no windows keep the door opened.