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[–]gunslinger_006Team McVicker 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 2時間 前 (28子コメント)
Its hard to pick a reason why I hate this.
Its got a "kimura trap" poster from Marcus Avellan in the background, and Avellan is one of LI's homeboys. Fuck LI and everyone who still associates with him.
Its an overtly sexualized bit of fluff that cheapens our sport and is offensive to women.
I think I gotta go with #1, with #2 being an extremely close second.
[–]iCHRYSTGracie Barra Hunter Valley 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
There's always examples of overly sexualized content for anything that has a strong male following. It's impossible escape now-a-days because sex sells.
[–]ElSchooler -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 1時間 前 (26子コメント)
Reason 1: Fair.
Reason 2: Ridiculous. By "overly sexualized" you're implying that you personally feel titillated. This is along with your "offensive to women" is hetero-normative. What if gay guys feel titillated by seeing two men demonstrate a move? What if female practioners also like the female form?
At some point, people decided that to masquerade as enlightened, they had to be puritans. IDK why that is. There's nothing shameful about the human form, and there's nothing shameful about liking to look at it.
"Overly sexualized" = thing that any typical victorian era religious zealot or censor could utter. It's an authoritarian mindset. If you don't it, fine. But the rest of us don't need you to dictate what "cheapens" our sport. Life is short, lighten up and have fun and don't be a sexually repressed killjoy desperately trying to impress random usernames on the internet.
[–]_eternalreturn_Paul Creighton 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間 前 (8子コメント)
Your complaint about reason 2 is total horseshit. The reason why it's "overly sexualized" is that it's purely prurient, with no actual worthwhile content. Both people in the demonstration are moving with no skill or understanding of what they're supposed to be doing with their bodies whatsoever.
[–]BJJCollective 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 54分 前 (4子コメント)
We giving it the "Miller Test" now? :D Con Laaaaaww!!!!
[–]_eternalreturn_Paul Creighton 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 52分 前 (3子コメント)
I knew some lawyer was going to recognize that!
[–]BJJCollective 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 51分 前 (0子コメント)
I'm studying for the Cali Bar right now hahaha
[–]BJJCollective 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 50分 前 (1子コメント)
There are not many uses of the word "prurient" in the history of the english language. hahaha
[–]_eternalreturn_Paul Creighton 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 49分 前 (0子コメント)
XD yeah, I suppose that's true
[–]ElSchooler -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
"pru·ri·ent ˈpro͝orēənt/ adjective adjective: prurient
having or encouraging an excessive interest in sexual matters."
Who are you to decide what is excessive? You sound like a high inquisitor. Moreover, excessive implies harm. If you can view it without being altered into some sort of deviant, why do you assume others can't?
[–]_eternalreturn_Paul Creighton 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
If you can view it without being altered into some sort of deviant
I couldn't. I am now a deviant. Send help, pls
[–]ElSchooler -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 38分 前 (0子コメント)
Exactly.
[–]NDNguitarguyWARNING: Choking Hazard 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
Are you really trying to say that MMAcandy doesn't overtly sexualize bjj for the purpose of getting views? Get out of here...
[–]HxrdcoreParkour 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 42分 前 (0子コメント)
Overtly, and excessively are two different things. Yes, overtly. Excessively, no.
[+]ElSchooler スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
1) So what if they do?
2) What's overtly sexual depends on your perspective. You assume that this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl5racwB0cw
Isn't overtly sexual because you think being a heterosexual male is the norm. This is a form of bias that isn't true. Plenty of men/women have different sexual tastes than that, therefore what is or isn't sexualized varies based on context. What for you is too sexual is boring for someone else, and vice versa.
[–]gunslinger_006Team McVicker 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間 前 (10子コメント)
That was a fantastic bit of projection you just did, but the reason I say it was oversexualized, is that those ladies are the MMA Candy ladies and no one takes them seriously. The only reason for that channel or the gif that was posted to exist at all is to mix softcore porn with MMA.
Your strawman attacks in response to my objection to the sexualization of BJJ say a lot more about you than they do about me.
Also the fact that you had to create a throwaway just to argue with me is pathetic.
[–]BJJCollective 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 47分 前 (0子コメント)
Have you seen this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htGtsnBqXFg
That chick on the bottom is an actual porn star.
Or so I've heard...
I had to research it for the site...
[+]ElSchooler スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 1時間 前 (8子コメント)
You're saying "softcore porn" as if (1) it's a bad thing, and (2) they're something obscene about what they're doing. Funny how someone claiming to care about women is basically walking right up to the line of calling them whores and sluts. I believe that's called slut-shaming.
Did you feel sexually aroused while watching that? Are you ashamed of it? If the answer is no, then why do you project? If the answer is yes, why are you ashamed? Why do you think only men are being appealed to? Why is sexuality something shameful?
[–]gunslinger_006Team McVicker 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間 前 (6子コメント)
You're saying "softcore porn" as if (1) it's a bad thing
Its only a bad thing when it is in the context of sexualizing our sport.
The rest of your points are hilariously obtuse.
[–]ElSchooler -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1時間 前 (5子コメント)
What are you talking about "sexualizing our sport", you act as if tomorrow the mundials will be changed to a naked oil wrestling competition.
All sports have sexualized sub-media associated with them, from sexy photoshoots, to videos, to fantasies, etc. The sports themselves are not sexualized, rather some subsets of the fandom have their sexual inclinations occasionally expressed in a way that is entertaining to the.
What is the harm in this? What harm comes from this video? You're taking a hectoring moral tone but you've yet to provide a basis for this condemnation, probably because you can't. What harm came from this?
All this is for you guys is a chance to feel superior to others on the internet, that's it.
[–]gunslinger_006Team McVicker 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (4子コメント)
Coming from a throwaway troll account made just to argue this nonsense in this one thread, that is hilarious.
Come out from hiding, link to your real account and I'll have this conversation with you, otherwise I have no incentive to be pulled into your vortex of nonsense.
[–]ElSchooler -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 49分 前 (3子コメント)
What's with this constant, weird, line of attack from you? Not only are these inherently personal attacks and thus have no logical bearing on the argument, but they're also not true. I'm not a "throwaway", I'm a longtime lurker. I'm not a "troll acount", I earnestly believe every single word I'm typing, and believe that you calling me a troll is just a defense mechanism for you to hide the fact that you have no argument.
Bluster and play to the gallery all you want, the fact remains that you made heteronormative assumptions, asserted sexuality as interchangeable with bad without a warrant, and use vague language and weasel words to try to paint a common human manifestation as some how unusual - all this in the context of trying to anathematize someone else.
"Stop hiding" says the guy posting from a pseudonym on a website. Grow up and address the arguments.
[–]gunslinger_006Team McVicker 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 46分 前 (2子コメント)
Take your dimestore psychology to tumblr where it will be appreciated.
[–]ElSchooler 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 18分 前 (1子コメント)
No. I don't like bullies, so I think i'll stay right here. Still calling out your nonsense, still pointing out that you came in here trying to look down on others and then ran into someone more articulate, well-read, and coherent than you.
All your whining about "trolling" and "hiding" yet you've made several posts in a row avoiding the basic arguments and just making personal attacks. Dimestore? You're not even giving your two cents.
For the rest, here's the arguments again re-stated for you:
Don't strike out again.
[–]Lionsweatshirt 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I feel like your trying to justify a porn addiction
Wow, your so sexually mature, teach us...please
[–]LemonHerbC-Quence 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 39分 前 (0子コメント)
All your comments ever are in this thread. Obvious troll is obvious.
[–]HxrdcoreParkour 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 45分 前 (0子コメント)
Knowledge bomb just got droooooooooooooooped!!!
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