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[–]LostDamascene 205ポイント206ポイント  (16子コメント)

This is an ancient roman theatre in Syria that I have actually visited multiple times prior to all the complications. Its so sad to see such a great piece of human heritage under the control of these shits.

[–]lets_get_hyyerr [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

They completely destroyed an ancient historical museum containing artifacts dating back to the time that Jesus apparently walked the Earth. I'm talking about old pottery, icons, mosaics and other things. The killing appauls me, it does, but destroying artifacts that have survived thousands of years, only to be destroyed out of ignorance and stupidity is aggrivating and irritating beyond all belief.

I just really like meusums, history and what not.

[–]Redlaron [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As a Muslim, it REALLY boils my blood to see when ancient artifacts and history is destroyed. I remember wanting to hit my TV when I saw the Taliban destroy the ancient Giant Buddhist statues that stood for over 4000 years. I sometimes daydream about grabbing every ISIS member and levitating them thousands of miles in the air and then dropping them.

[–]wise_comment [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As a history major, I too had this reaction, and it concerned me a bit

Well, that and my crippling debt and useless major

[–]Mike_Fu 669ポイント670ポイント  (138子コメント)

Please excuse the ignorance, but what am I looking at here? Is this a public execution? What venue is this?

[–]Emperor_Bokassa 824ポイント825ポイント  (83子コメント)

About a month ago ISIS captured a town in Syria famous for its classical ruins (Palmyra / Tadmur). A few days ago ISIS released a propaganda video showing them executing captured Syrian regime soldiers in a Roman Era amphitheater in the town.

The other image shows a ballet being performed at the amphitheater before the Syrian civil war began (pre-2011).

[–]Dirty_Cop [スコア非表示]  (30子コメント)

The gunmen are also young men and children.

[–]springsoon [スコア非表示]  (27子コメント)

How fucking sad

[–]notsobeautiful [スコア非表示]  (24子コメント)

Don't worry I heard the second half is much better.

[–]makochi [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

I know this is supposed to be an /r/imgoingtohellforthis joke but I don't get the punchline

[–]bluestreak777 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The execution is at an amphitheatre. He's saying "the second half is much better" as if it's a live performance.

[–]Markiep52 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Live shows often have a thing called intermission where you hope it gets better, but it always lets you down. I think it's because they give you the freedom to leave unnoticed at that point, but you come back.

[–]orangesunshine [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I wonder if any of them were there on both occasions?

once performing with the ballet ... and the next time performing executions.

[–]lets_get_hyyerr [スコア非表示]  (38子コメント)

Thank you for the info. It's such a shame that these people have no regard for history, let alone their own history. They blow up and destroy their own artifacts like they are meaningless.

This whole war is a "holy war" to them... wouldn't their "holy" artifacts of their religion mean something to them? I don't understand ISIS and their logic, or lack-there-of.

[–]Revolution_Is_Needed [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

They even blew up the tomb of Jonah :(

Edit: Thought I might add that Jonah is an important figure in Islam as well as other religions, so they really have no reason to destroy the tomb if religion is their motivation.

[–]QueequegTheater [スコア非表示]  (16子コメント)

It's not a holy war, it's an excuse for bloodthirsty, murderous psychopaths to act like bloodthirsty, murderous psychopaths.

[–]iSanddbox [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

it's an excuse for bloodthirsty, murderous psychopaths to act like bloodthirsty, murderous psychopaths.

...so, you mean a holy war?

[–]nope_nic_tesla [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is vastly over-simplifying a much more complex issue

[–]Jonno100 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

sanctioned by Islam.

[–]tree103 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Claiming to be sanctioned by Islam many Islamic leaders and countries are against what Isis is doing hell even the Taliban believe Isis has gone to far.

[–]Angusthebear [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

even the Taliban believe Isis has gone to far.

This reminds me of that time when the KKK released a statement against the WBC.

[–]thefr0g [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

also, lives. They have children shooting people in the head. But yeah that history thing is sad too.

[–]TDuffin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh, they know the meaning these ruins have. It's exactly why they destroy them.

[–]Unclehams [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

those artifacts are not of islam so they destroy them. There is a holy war, Christians in Kurdistan and Jordan along with muslims are fighting the far left sect of islam known as isis.

[–]Oplexus [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Luckily ISIS has said they will leave the actual ruins of Palmyra alone, because the pillars etc... are not idolatrous. But any statues/sculptures may not be so lucky.

[–]throwagay1235 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It should be noted that many of the ISIS members are not even Syrian. Some are not even Arab. A significant were born in Europe or elsewhere. I'm not sure if it's better or worse when you realize it's someone else destroying Syrian history.

[–]ohchristworld [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

What's sad is this doesn't have the world up in arms. We've officially reached the point of "If those people want to kill each other, let them." The problem is, ISIS is the worst possible outcome of this. They are a legitimate threat to western way of life and we refuse to do anything about it because we, as a nation, are too war weary and frankly don't want to go back over there again. The problem is, we may be getting ourselves into the same shit as we did with WWII. Ignore ISIS, like Japan, until they blow up some of our shit and kill a lot of our people. THEN we'll do something about it.

[–]FrankieSpinatra [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Considering the absolute shit wagon of a war we've been in for the last 14 years, damn right level headed Americans are cautious about starting more battles in the Middle East.

You mention coming over and blowing shit up- I'm afraid that's fear mongering and honestly not something we should be worried about. To clarify, you can worry about it if you want, but id certainly be more worried of the situation if we threw more 18 year olds in the sand to fight ISIS.

[–]tarheels058 180ポイント181ポイント  (48子コメント)

You're looking at a concert hall of some kind in Syria. 4 years ago they had world class ballerinas...now they have ISIS. Many people don't realize Syria was very modern before the recent wars.

[–]frito_andolini [スコア非表示]  (33子コメント)

But the news told me that Syria was bad.

[–]kingmozi [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

news

It was bad. All that modernity, entertainment was all "breads and circuses". Read this if you want to know about what happened behind the scenes: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/06/assad-war-crimes-syria-torture-caesar-hospital

[–]HarperCaliphate [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Fuck off with your lazy cynicism. The news tells you a lot of things. The news told the narrative of Syria's downfall a long time ago. The news talks about Syria and the devastating effects of its wars, especially the consequences on real peoples' lives, constantly.

Your petty misplaced vendetta against "the news" is entirely due to the fact that you suck at choosing where you read about world issues. Make better choices and don't be such a cynical little fuck. Turn on PBS and learn something instead of whining about some inconsequential bullshit no one should ever have to acknowledge.

[–]ojaldaconqueso [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You...you are far too reasonable and intelligent to be arguing with teenagers that know jack-shit about the world on reddit. I just come here for the cat videos and occasionally get sucked into a real news-story. I suggest going elsewhere for real news.

[–]smartbrowsering [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

If they were executing Saddam then news would tell you they are good.

[–]hughnibley [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Anti-US and anti-media sentiment on reddit?

The level of edge is off the charts bruh!

[–]back_off_im_new [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty sure it is way more complicated than that. But I get your point.

[–]Solomaxwell6 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"Syria was bad" and "Syria had world class ballerinas" aren't really mutually exclusive...

[–]Slut_Nuggets [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

Assad used chemical weapons against people. Reports are coming out that he is continuing to do that. Assad is not a good guy. ISIS is not good. The whole situation sucks

[–]Its_Porsch-ah [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

It cannot be proven if Assad used the chemical weapons or if the rebels used them in order to attract more support and more anti-Assad sentiment. My personal feeling is that Assad didn't use chemical weapons as it would serve no tactical purpose.

[–]Albus_k [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So far ISIS is getting poor reviews at the theatres compared to the ballerina dancers...

[–]Bahmerman [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Right; 4 years ago, world class ballerinas, now they have world class assholes. (Apologies in advance for the understatement).

[–]Jon-Osterman 469ポイント470ポイント  (183子コメント)

[–]ApurvaKP 216ポイント217ポイント  (20子コメント)

They all turned into Ninjas.

[–]TexasTmac 98ポイント99ポイント  (17子コメント)

Or death eaters?

[–]jonnybanana88 73ポイント74ポイント  (15子コメント)

Or Sith Lords.

[–]PLxFTW 54ポイント55ポイント  (99子コメント)

What the hell happened?

[–]OrzBlueFog [スコア非表示]  (27子コメント)

Coups. Civil war. Soviet invasion. Proxy Cold War battles. Soviets left. Fighting continued. Taliban won in 1994. Oppression. Support for terrorism. 9/11. U.S. Invasion. Taliban pushed from power but still extant. Karzai administration corrupt. Persistent fighting.

[–]AleaLudo [スコア非表示]  (16子コメント)

...we didn't start the fire?

[–]AAlliterativeAsshole [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

My exact thought. There's gotta be someone who can rearrange this and make it work with the rhythm

[–]QuinineGlow [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Coups galore, a civil war, Commies knocking at the door,

Proxy target's on our face, Reds're kicked out in disgrace,

burquas for the Taliban, cover for Al Qaeda's plans,

eagle's comin' in hot, bosses gone (but then they're not),

hamid's hands are in the till, fighting then and now and still

Never gonna change the rhyme-

LEONARD BERNSTEIN-

we didn't drop the towers,

No they were falling first before we saw the worst

We didn't drop the towers...

[–]Chay-wow [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

That's scary... Those places look like the U.S in the 70's, then all the coups and stuff happened and BOOM, No rights.

[–]utchemfan [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

The US overthrew a democratically elected socialist Iranian government to install a puppet emperor (the Shah) for the west. His disregard for his people and brutal suppression of any and all opposition directly led to the otherthrow of the Shah and the rise of Iranian Islamists.

[–]15413453452 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Way to oversimplify it, have you thought about starting a half comedy half politics talk show?

[–]TheIdesOfLurch [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Ah yes! Another brutal oligarchy created by the US! Just like Afghanistan and Iraq! One generation funds them, the next generation fights them.

[–]Mouse_Farts [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why are the Iranian Islamist worst than the Shah?

[–]Sunshinexpress [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I highly recommend reading Persepolis (a fantastic graphic novel) if you're interesting in learning about the revolution in Iran.

[–]elfdom [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There's also a good film of it, also called Persepolis (2007), though it does not go too much into the background: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808417/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

[–]newroot 64ポイント65ポイント  (3子コメント)

sharia law happened

[–]ChipsOtherShoe [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

A gross oversimplification, but yea basically it was Islamic extremist revolution

[–]EngelbertHerpaderp [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Clearly each region was taken over by ninja. Duh.

[–]50Olol5 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Is this why we nuked Japan? Thank God we stopped the ninjafication of America.

[–]fewforwarding [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

The US and UK decided the middle east was too peaceful, so they fucked it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

[–]ANAL_McDICK_RAPE [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, they did some bad shit but you're linking a coup from 1953 and those pictures are from the 70s, doesn't really apply..

[–]DrBaus 107ポイント108ポイント  (21子コメント)

ehh I know people who've been to Iran and most women just dress in regular western clothing plus headscarf

[–]sammaher1 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

True. I'm there right now (been to Tehran and currently in shiraz) and most women are wearing loose fitting head scarfs.

[–]bros_pm_me_ur_asspix [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

i watch Veep and i'm disappointed with how HBO represented Iran during the airport scenes in the episode "Tehran", they made it look like the Ayatollah just took over

edit: screenshot

[–]Team_Pup_N_Suds [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

It's a comedy. It's not meant to be an accurate depiction.

[–]avoiding_politics [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Unfortunately many people solidify their worldview on what is depicted in movies and television...it's horrifying, really.

[–]Dilfbert [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's what happens if you have no other perspective

[–]lorenzofm [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

very true, but to many viewers who have no other concept of what it might look like in real life, that is the image they will associate it with. many people accept satire as gospel.

[–]Meowymeow88 [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

That's really ignorant and misleading though. It's not a typical comparison of 1970's Iran and Afghanistan vs current times. Afghanistan has 30 million people and most of them didn't dress like that in the 70's. You're looking at what's most likely upper class urban Afghans. The Iranian comparison is even more ignorant.

You could compare picture of half naked 70's hippies in America to conservative Mormons today and it would look only slightly less contrasting. And it would be only slightly less ignorant.

[–]Clay_Statue [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Point being that upper class Afghans could do that back then without being accosted and injured by an angry mob (or worse).

[–]The_Keg [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You actually think upper class Afghans cannot do that currently?

[–]BigOldNerd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And the US doesn't even let Mormons marry multiple wives. Such oppression. Wonder why they aren't all moving to Iran and Afghanistan?

[–]EllenPaoFUPA [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Those are extremely misleading. At least in Afghanistan women outside some wealthy elites in Kabul never stopped wearing the ninja suits.

[–]jax1492 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

come on, not this again ... you make it seem like iran in the 70s was some kinda beach paradise.

[–]KCBrowsin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

afghanistan was never an amazing place. the few nice pics of ppl wearing normal clothing doing "modern" things are all from a small section of their society in the most developed areas of kabul. Majority of the country still appears as it is today. sorry to burst your bubble

[–]weareonlynothing [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Except Iran doesn't look like that now and that image of 1970's Afghanistan is only representative of the urban population, the rural population was still fairly conservative but maybe not as much as people are now.

[–]Givemeawayoutofhere 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hrm. What are two things those people have in common...

Blowback indeed.

[–]AnusDestroyer__ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Its crazy how people will take 1 small headline or picture from the outskirts of civilization in the middle east and label the whole country/people/religion with it. Imagine if the entire world would think if the only thing they read about us was news from florida, lol.

[–]cdxv [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Anyone know the backstory on why there is a group of people in the crowd watching? They there by choice?

[–]fuglyflamingo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Maybe. The Sunnis didn't like the shias. Many, believe or not, prefer Isis rule than corrupt sectarian rule.

[–]Perdi 134ポイント135ポイント  (32子コメント)

How fucking sad is this, beautiful comparision OP, this middle eastern fuck fest is really starting to get to me, especially with images like that.

It just seems a impossible situation that we won't see ended in our lifetimes, I can't imagine seeing the ballet performed there again soon, but if I did, even with stones still stained with the blood innocent people who were executed for ridiculous reasons, I'd shed tears, lots of em.

[–]iTAMEi [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I used give opinions on what the government should do during situations like this. Now I have no fucking clue what they should do.

[–]ARONDH 31ポイント32ポイント  (22子コメント)

It has been ongoing for millenia, so the likelihood that you'll see the end of it is pretty fucking slim.

[–]PainMatrix 233ポイント234ポイント  (58子コメント)

All executed and:

Among them was a young boy.

This is the point where I stop understanding your cause, at all. You can make points about cultural relativism and land claims and religious values and I will track you... but once you bring innocents, and especially children, into the mix, you cease to be human to me.

[–]NerJaro 116ポイント117ポイント  (9子コメント)

ive stopped trying to understand them along time ago. when they started the vendetta against human history. when they destroyed Nimrud i nearly cried. knowing that the artifacts of our history has been destroyed. knowing that they will stop at nothing to make the world in their image and faith... also knowing that now they have stated they want to destroy the pyramids at Giza that Egypt will fuck them up should they try.

[–]patientbearr 95ポイント96ポイント  (3子コメント)

Maybe they're just jealous of Egypt's extra workers and increased tile improvement construction speed.

[–]mantiswarbear [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Fuck that shit. If they try to take down the pyramids, conscript me all you want.

[–]Marvolo_Mescudi [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Aren't they, like, 10 mins outside Cairo? I think the UN/NATO would kick in to full gear long before Isis would be strong enough to take Egypts capital... I hope. Honestly, that's just a terrifying thought.

[–]TheNastyDoctor 286ポイント287ポイント  (9子コメント)

All the rape and murder before was whatever, but involving a boy? This is the last straw, ISIS.

[–]stormhunter1 [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

They become that much more irredeemable. It's more a question of, is anything sacred to them, obviously the answer is no, but that won't stop us from being surprised

[–]Faxon [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

i'd wager that if you started burning korans in front of them they'd probably react similarly to how we are now. that's probably about it though. that and images of Muhammad

[–]Carcharodon_literati 31ポイント32ポイント  (7子コメント)

ISIS follows Islam about as accurately as the Nazis followed their official church. Their "cause" is a fight for the ability to freely subject their will on others.

[–]meeeeetch [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's not about the cause. When militants do things like that, it's about letting everybody around know that they're the ones in charge. It's not about satisfying the troops, or even about getting rid of the old guard. They're telling everybody what happens if they resist them. They're telling everybody that there's nobody else who's going to save them.

[–]APairofDocks [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Has someone actually used "cultural relativism" to argue in favor of ISIS to you?

[–]Joal0503 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Human sacrifice driven by "gods will" it's been going on for centuries. Children or not, taking of human life for religious purpose, doesn't make sense at all.

[–]frito_andolini [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Who in their right fucking mind tries to understand Daesh in the first place?

[–]Random_G [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Everyone with an education, empathy and an open mind. Understanding does not mean agreeing. To best your opponent is to understand them better than they understand you.

[–]Angry_Robot 35ポイント36ポイント  (5子コメント)

And they want to do the same to Europe.

[–]Nachosleaze [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm guessing they want to do it everywhere, the Universal Caliphate doesn't do half measures. However, they are misinformed, uneducated and untrained (relative to western military forces) so it's not really a threat.

Still very sad for the people who come under their misguided swords. Humans have always been cruel, I guess this contrasts how far we have come in modern society.

[–]frito_andolini [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes, once would correctly assume that Daesh, after slaughtering thousands of their own people, will have no qualms about murdering the shit out of Europe.

[–]LightLordRhllor [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

We need to rid the world of these people.

[–]newera14 33ポイント34ポイント  (5子コメント)

Sometimes I think I'm turning into one of the old folks who say "Just bomb them all!" Except I say so only to spare the innocent of the torture and agony of living under these fuckers so they die quickly.

[–]n3rdopolis [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Unfortunately they live amongst the innocents as they terrorize them, making it harder to just grep them all out...

[–]BearsDontStack [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This is how I feel. When we hear about how their army is advancing on a city, well, how about we use those drones we love using in Yemen and bomb the fuck out of them? Anyone traveling with them is good as dead anyway.

[–]Tongue_Puncher 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

This shit makes me incredibly sad.

[–]garhent [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Looks right for the Caliphate. Muslims across the world must be so proud to see what Saudi and Qatari religious funding throughout the world has brought their faith. The fruits that money have grown are ripe and full of poison.

[–]EJ-ericjackson [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It saddens me to see this, blood staining sites of human history where blood should no longer be spilled.

It really sucks, ever since I was a kid, I was in love with the architecture and landscape of the middle east. But now its far to dangerous to travel too... and so much of it is getting tainted and destroyed... one hopes we can put aside self-interest and solve these issues and fix the mistakes of an ignorant past.

[–]bushrod [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well I'm glad that at least that haven't completely destroyed Palmyra (yet).

[–]skimble-skamble [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This sort of thing could happen anywhere, that's the terrifying part.

[–]rividz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm going to move to Syria and marry an unemployed ballerina.

[–]baozebub [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The first pic was taken under a secular Assad controlled Palmyra. The second was taken under ISIS, brought to power by U.S. backing of moderate rebels, who are nowhere to be found since they're all ISIS

[–]gnarx [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

so fucking depressing. i really hope one day religious fuckwits can fuck off

[–]brave-new-world 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Where were these pictures taken/what venue is that?

[–]LostDamascene 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Roman Theatre in Palmyra Syria

[–]marlajane [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

From most of these comments I've learned that most people on Reddit need to go back to school or just fucking get off here and watch the fucking news. Stupid ass people.

[–]windofpazuzu 4ポイント5ポイント  (16子コメント)

should have backed assad when we had the chance. all those "rebel" groups everybody was supporting and sending weapons to just turned out to be isis.

[–]____DEADPOOL_______ [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

Is that really what happened?

[–]ApolloFortyNine [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not isis, but AL qaeda. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/04/11/syria-al-qaeda-connection/2075323/

No one can say for sure how many rebels had ties to AL qaeda or isis, but either way it was a poorly handled situation.

[–]returned_from_shadow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The following is a brief background of the build up to the Syrian Civil War and a collection of sources showing how the US and it's allies have both directly and indirectly created the situation which has given rise to ISIS.

In the period following the Second World War, the US has engaged in covert operations and coup attempts in Syria due to their support for Socialism and Russia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Syria

This means that the primary choice of opposition was radical Sunni Islamists due to their rejection of the inherent secularism of socialist leaning governments:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-s-uprising-in.../29221

This has lead to decades of violence and conflict between the Syrian government and the Sunni radicals, and terrorist attacks against Syrian Christian and Alawite minorities. The Sunnis due to their lack of political dominance in the country have instead resorted to terrorist attacks against civilians and government officials in order to oppose the secularism of the Syrian government, the government forced into a position to protect Syrian civilians has lead to increasing violence between the two factions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Syria

Unfortunately, Syria's current uprising is not secular or based on the desire for democratic reform. The majority of the Syrian protesters and rebels have always been dominated by radical Sunnis who have wanted a government based on Sharia.

“Syria’s uprising is not a secular one. Most participants are devout Muslims inspired by Islam. By virtue of Syria’s demography most of the opposition is Sunni Muslim and often come from conservative areas.”

http://foreignpolicy.com/.../islamism-and-the-syrian.../

Iraqi politicians stated numerous times that if the US backed the Syrian rebels it would destabilize Iraq, which as they called, happen exactly as they said it would.

“The idea that secularists and moderates ever had a chance to be the dominate rebel military opposition in Syria is a nonsensical fantasy.” -Patrick Cockburn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2E8XBnQVfE

Time and again it has been shown that the largest benefactors of US support for militia and rebel factions in Syria, whether by direct or indirect means, is going predominantly toward radical Islamists. The US has been warned by countless world leaders, journalists, analysts and experts that our policies are benefiting and creating the very same terrorists we have sworn to destroy.

“We Helped Build ISIS” –Admits retired Lt. Gen. Tom McInerney

ISIL created by US, says CIA contractor

Iraq Crisis: ISIS Terrorists were Trained by US in 2012 for Syria Conflict

Al Qaeda Commander claims US helped create and supports ISIS

How the US Allowed ISIS to Form a Terrorist Army

US-Backed 'Moderate' Free Syrian Army Factions Join ISIS Terror Group

America's Allies Are Funding ISIS

US/EU ally Turkey Supporting ISIS:

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/01/turkey-syria-intelligence-service-shipping-weapons.html#

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/3000-in-turkey-linked-to-isil-group-police-intel-report-says.aspx?pageID=238&nID=77063&NewsCatID=341

US trained Syrian and Libyan Wahhabi terrorists:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/18/the-terrorists-fighting-us-now-we-just-finished-training-them/

Iraqi politicians stated numerous times that if the US backed the Syrian rebels it would destabilize Iraq, which as they called, happen exactly as they said it would.

The idea that secularists and moderates ever had a chance to be the dominate rebel military opposition in Syria is a nonsensical fantasy.

-Patrick Cockburn

'Moderate' Syrian rebels sell Steven Sotloff to ISIS

ISIS commander who was killed was former US/NATO backed Libyan rebel leader

US-Backed 'Moderate' Free Syrian Army Factions Join ISIS Terror Group

1,000-Strong Syrian Rebel Brigade Defects to ISIS

FSA brigade 'joins al-Qaeda group' in Syria

The US is not supporting secular/moderate rebels according to the testimony of the FSA's southern commander:

"The bits of the FSA that continue to oppose Nusra and the Islamic State blame the West for their loss of power. ‘The Syrian people will welcome any support if the West continues to abandon us,’ the FSA’s commander for southern Syria, Abu Fadi, told me in Jordan. Abu Fadi said that, contrary to reports in the US newspapers, he had received almost no American help. None of his men had been trained in the camps that supposedly exist in Jordan. No weapons had been handed over. ‘We have had some new boots and jackets,’ he said with a snort. ‘That’s all.’"

The US had supposedly been training 'moderate' rebels in Jordan, why is it that the main opposition leader in the FSA is claiming otherwise? And let's not ask the Northern commander of the FSA because we already know he wants a government based on Islamic Law

Additionally, a western diplomat makes the startling revelation that the vast majority of Syrian rebels are Islamist thugs:

"The official was his government’s main conduit to the Syrian rebels. I asked him what percentage of the rebels western countries could support: what percentage were not jihadis, not committing human rights abuses, looting or kidnapping — and were militarily effective?"

"There was a silence. Finally, he said: ‘Thirty per cent.’ It was a devastating admission. Then he paused and said he had been considering only the first three criteria. Adding in military effectiveness, you would have to say the West could support only 10 per cent."

Hassan Aboud of Soquor al-Sham and Abu Ayman of Ahrar al-Sham, another Islamist group, said that whoever was vetting which groups receive the weapons was doing an inadequate job.

“There are fake Free Syrian Army brigades claiming to be revolutionaries, and when they get the weapons they sell them in trade,” Mr. Aboud said

FSA selling US TOW missiles to Syrian Jihadists

Here's the CIA supporting and supplying Islamists with arms in Syria (2012):

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/world/middleeast/jihadists-receiving-most-arms-sent-to-syrian-rebels.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/world/middleeast/arms-airlift-to-syrian-rebels-expands-with-cia-aid.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/opinion/alqaeda-now-a-us-ally-in-syria-20120910-25oby.html

March 3, 2015- US backed Syrian rebels armed with anti-tank weapons defect to ISIS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HEqDRoQ2k9A&list=PL50BDB9BCCFAF09CA#t=30

[–]Tartooth [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

He's vastly oversimplifying what really happened. In essence, yes but not directly.

ISIS took over all the bases build by america and filled with rebels, because the rebels were cowards and ran away leaving the guns and tanks behind.

PS - I really don't fully understand all of this so don't flame me going "hurdur you're completely wrong"

[–]fuglyflamingo [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Assad targeted and killed the moderate rebels while the western governments were thinking about arming them and Daesh is what was left.

[–]Mutt1223 0ポイント1ポイント  (44子コメント)

Religion. Not even once.

[–]B_eb21 102ポイント103ポイント  (14子コメント)

Yes. This all happened after all of Syria finally converted to Islam for the very first time four years ago.

[–]backtowriting [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Well, it happened after a particularly virulent strain of fundamentalist Islam spread throughout the world.

[–]frito_andolini [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

From Saudi Arabia, backed by the west. Forget that little tidbit?

[–]ApolloFortyNine [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Link to the proof that we funded extremist Islam? Or are you talking about funding rebels in Soviet Union controlled territory?

[–]sandscript [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Well it's not as if all those centuries of holy wars were caused by an excess of skeptical inquiry.

[–]frito_andolini [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

No, it happened because some people are assholes and will use whatever justification they can in order to continue being asshole.

[–]sandscript [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This way of exculpating religion from the actions of its followers is curiously only applied to evil behavior. Nobody argues that religion is just an excuse for attending church, giving money to priests, eating unleavened bread, fasting for a month, or avoiding birth control. You can't have your cake and eat it too: religion doesn't get to be the ultimate cause of good behavior and somehow innocent of causing the evil behaviors carried out in its name, especially when those behaviors are specifically condoned or encouraged in its holy text.

[–]phozee [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

In before "this has nothing to do with Islam." Yes, people of all religions and no religions at all commit atrocities. The difference is what they are using as their justification for their actions.

If a Jain, for example, suicide bombs a restaurant full of people, there is nothing in the doctrine of Jainism he can point to in order to justify his actions.