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[–]admonishment 397ポイント398ポイント  (42子コメント)

I'm far more scared of Theresa May than I am off any terrorist.

[–]cuntarsetits 157ポイント158ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's exactly what they want. We can't give into the fear and change the way we live as a result, otherwise the Theresa May has won.

[–]SrekcalpEngland 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is nothing to fear other than Theresa May herself

[–]shitinahat 140ポイント141ポイント  (25子コメント)

terrorist n. 1. A person who provokes a state of fear in the general pubic intended or calculated to diminish the freedoms of civilians for the pursuit of political aims.

[–]HowObviousScatland 35ポイント36ポイント  (18子コメント)

That is just one definition of terrorism which has no agreed definition.. Its a Buzzword used to describe enemies of a state.

[–]wedontlikespacesTyne and Wear 11ポイント12ポイント  (17子コメント)

Just like the word troll no longer has any meaning. If you have a vague definition for any word then all meaning is lost.

[–]minimus_ 29ポイント30ポイント  (15子コメント)

"Terrorist" never had a meaning. It has always implied a blind hate, and described someone who exists only to cause misery, death and destruction to "the West". No one hates blindly, and any acts of mass violence can be traced back to long-standing resentment and discontent and ideological difference (no matter how unthinkable they may seem to us).

"Terrorist" allows us to see our enemies as movie villains and discourages attempts to empathise and see their viewpoint. It perpetuates war and stirs up conflict.

If I had my way, I'd outlaw it from our vocabulary.

[–]wedontlikespacesTyne and Wear 5ポイント6ポイント  (12子コメント)

The West, with a capital T and W, is another fantastic example of a word, or in this case an idea, that has no real meaning. The UK is in The West as in France but no one would ever try to claim that they are in any way like each other. But somehow they get clumped together. Likewise places like Norway and Sweden are in The West but somehow get excluded from this definition no real reason.

I would be interested in what you would call people, such as ISIS, if not terrorists.

[–]minimus_ 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well I'd say the West is developed Europe (definitely including the Nordics) plus North America. It would be pretty easy to argue Britain and France are very much alike. As far as geographical groupings go I'd say the West is an easier one.

As for the group who call themselves Islamic State, they're militant jihadists whose only concern is to achieve a caliphate, and if that means killing lots of harmless, peaceful people, so be it. There is an ideology behind what they do that can be understood. They are not simply a force of evil (although they're doing a good impression of it), they have a goal and a rationalisation for what they do.

[–]DogBotherer 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The West also ideologically includes countries like Australia and NZ, which, on an arbitrarily UK-drafted map, are in the South East. So it's not strictly a geographical definition so much as a broad cultural one (having all been strongly influenced by Ancient Greece and Rome historically).

[–]quinn_drummer 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

The UK is in The West as in France but no one would ever try to claim that they are in any way like each other.

This is called Imagined Communities. We do it all the time when we stereotype, grouping people together and assuming they have the same traits, characteristics, problems, needs, desires etc etc.

It's a very political thing that's hard for any of us to really escape. We do it with gender, assuming all women face the same problems. We do it with people that read newspapers, assuming anyone that reads the Guardian or Daily Mail all think the same. We do it with countries, say, "the French", assuming they behave, act and think the same and have the same wants and desires.

Governments find it useful to draw up policies when looking at stats for disabled, single parents, failing school children, or as this thread is discussing, terrorism. It's easier to for them to broadly address this imagined group of people that, whilst they may have one thing in common, Guardian readers for example, they are all very different and have very different experiences and sets of circumstances that will shape their lives.

The key point is in the "imagined" part, these "communities" have largely never met each other. in terms of "the west" ... we are grouped together in terms of socio-economic terms, but mostly as individuals we Brits don't have a lot of contact with the French, or Germans etc.

It's just a catch all term that does good at scratching the surfaces of things but never really looking at real problems and issues feeding any discussion.

It's easy for the Government to point to IS and say "terrorist" to instill fear, and have us all believing that all they want to do is destroy us. But talk to anyone of those people that identify as IS and you'll find that there is a lot more to what they are doing, their belief and their behaviour. It'll be heavily political, it'll have lots of connect to their social economic status in their country and the world as a whole, and an entire history that we're not really privy too as it's not broadcast to us unless we research it ourselves.

Not that I condone their actions by any stretch, but it's always worth considering the deeper reasons of why people do thing, and try not to fall into the trap of creating these imaginary communities to speak of the group as a whole.

[–]WhatABiscuitEuropean Union 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would be interested in what you would call people, such as ISIS, if not terrorists.

I think ISIS is more commonly referred to as an extremist militant group. They use terror in their actions, but their self-described purpose is to establish a state.

It's important (methinks) to have a difference between terror as a tool to an end (domination), which is used in a lot of conflicts around the world, and terror as a goal, which is what is (in my eyes) more commonly known as 'terrorism'.

[–]DogBotherer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can you name any groups off the top of your head that you would see as having terror as a pure goal? I'd really struggle to to be honest. Even old fashioned nihlists had political objectives, such as they were. Having terror as a pure objective would seem to be an approach almost definitive of a group of certifiable diagnosable psychopaths and serial killers and restricted to such a group (although others might use such individuals instrumentally for other objectives such as to make conquest easier, quell rebellion etc.).

[–]McDutchie 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The UK is in The West as in France but no one would ever try to claim that they are in any way like each other.

In fact the UK and France are very similar when you compare them with a country such as Saudi Arabia, China, or pretty much any other non-European, non-"West" country.

[–]nigelthegingerSussex....mostly 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Britain and France are UN security council members with big economies and strong links to America. The Nordics tend not to be so involved (at least prominently) with the whole "world police" thing as the UK/france/US. It's not unreasonable to form these groupings

[–]ThereCanBeOnly_Juan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand the exclusion of Norway and Sweden, I would call them "The West". I do understand the similarity between Britain and France. Go to Japan, or go to Pakistan, and see how similar Britain and France actually are.

[–]OdeToBoredomBedfordshire 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd imagine "The West" is a holdover from the Cold War. And nobody has yet concocted a new sobriquet that encompasses the still shared values and heritage.

I don't disagree that it holds less and less meaning these days.

[–]wedontlikespacesTyne and Wear 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think we should use the name, Northern Europe because that is the most descriptive.

Not Russia would also work.

There are a myriad of different languages, religions and political systems. I don't think European nations have all that much in common with each other. Not enough to warrant a collective name.

[–]Pantera333Scottish Highlands -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

'Cunts' would do nicely...

[–]WolfBiedermanRocks 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually the first horror writers were called 'terrorists'.

[–]Joker1980 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just like "law", "capitalism", and "Justice"

[–]HammeljTonbridge 56ポイント57ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ok any other terrorist

[–]Gazareth 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of those... exotic, foreign ones.

[–]bbqroastBritish Commonwealth: New Zealand 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

By that definition nearly all political parties are terrorist groups lol.

[–]MxDalethCornwall 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

general pubic

[–]Barry_Scotts_CatMeowchester 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

a person who uses unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

[–]shitinahat 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fragment from OED terrorism 2a. The rest must be stuck behind the sofa somewhere?

[–]DjevansBucks 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

She's far more relevant to my life as a Brit than any terrorist threat is

[–]admonishment 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. There is a very small chance that a terrorist will harm me. There is a very large chance that Theresa May's actions will erode my privacy and rights.

[–]Othersideofthemirror 30ポイント31ポイント  (3子コメント)

That is an extreme comment. I hope you received permission from the UK Internet Authority before publishing.

[–]YodaTheCoderYorkshire 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

He'll be ok, he used an encrypted connection.

[–]Othersideofthemirror 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Encryption? Terrorist! Or WORSE.

Belmarsh awaits.

[–]Tony49UKGreater London 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm afraid I'll have to arrest him for using encryption and when we sieze his computer he'll have to tell us all his passwords or get even more time in chokey.

[–]cum_farts_of_a_clown 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

She will ban you

[–]MuffinYea"WHITE ROSE WHITE ROSE" - Sheffield 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

& v&

[–]patentedenemy 91ポイント92ポイント  (45子コメント)

You could remove 'internet' from that sentence and it'd still work.

[–]Barry_Scotts_CatMeowchester 84ポイント85ポイント  (34子コメント)

and replace "villain" with cunt

[–]the_ioSlough 31ポイント32ポイント  (5子コメント)

God no. I wouldn't touch that ever.

[–]RageReader101Kent 30ポイント31ポイント  (4子コメント)

So that's what's in room 101

[–]HapaxHogEssex 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Theresa May's disembodied cunt?

Just left on the floor?

Yikes

[–]I_tend_to_correct_u -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Cuntanomo Bay is nothing to be sniffed at

[–]HapaxHogEssex -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd fucking hope not. I don't know what disembodied cunt smells like, but I don't reckon it smells very nice.

[–]Weedlefruit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mr Gein wouldn't even touch that... Rotten through

[–]wedontlikespacesTyne and Wear 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

and replace year with universe. Also the word named is unnecessarily.

We are optimising the gibbens out of this title.

[–]Barry_Scotts_CatMeowchester 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Theresa May, cunt of the universe

[–]tylersburden 22ポイント23ポイント  (9子コメント)

Attack her myriad bad policy ideas, dude, don't get personal.

[–]Chazmer87Scotland 47ポイント48ポイント  (7子コメント)

because of her I can't film my BDSM sessions

She made it personal

[–]RichieSMLondon 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

She probably wants to monopolise the market under her "Mistress May" BDSM pseudonym.

Can almost imagine her in a leather outfit and a riding crop, striking her thigh-highs as she says in a stern voice "You've been a very naughty boy..."

Ok, that's a disturbing image.

[–]Chazmer87Scotland 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

tag that shit. NSFL

[–]defprocCounty Durham 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

keep going

[–]Weedlefruit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Dirty peasant... Work for me... Oooh yeah.... Work for less... That's it... Work harder for less! That's it! Harder! Harder!"

[–]henry_blackieWelsh Valleys 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

But think of the children.

[–]KhenirEast Sussex 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's an insult to cunts.

[–]zut50Cambridgeshire 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, le mot juste.

[–]arabidopsisSaffek -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

and then replace cunt with "cuntycuntcunt of cunting proportions."

[–]skunkdNorthern Ireland 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

But that's the word that gives the headline such power.

Oh yeah what am I saying lol. I meant 'no power whatsoever'.

[–]Osgood_SchlatterEngland -4ポイント-3ポイント  (8子コメント)

I think Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, Putin, Kim Jong Un and Xi Jinping amongst others would make her look fairly harmless by comparison.

[–]G_Comstock 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Xi Jinping

I'm surprised to see you include him in this list?

[–]Osgood_SchlatterEngland 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm surprised to see you include him in this list?

Why? These are just random leaders who happen to be more villainous than Theresa May, it's not a particularly tough competition. She's not killing dissidents, oppressing minorities, occupying neighbours, torturing journalists or anything.

[–]G_Comstock 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I quite agree with your general point that she is less bad than the baddest of the bad. I was just surprised to see you select Xi Jinpeng to illustrate your point alongside Al Baghdadi.

[–]Osgood_SchlatterEngland 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was just trying to give a range - though Xi is probably quite the villain if you're a Tibetan, Uighur, Falun Gong member, democracy activist or similar.

[–]G_Comstock 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No doubt, but no more so than any other Chinese Premier over the last forty years.

[–]patentedenemy 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh indeed, but those guys just get to the point of being evil. Theresa May hides her evil behind a veil of apparent "good".

[–]ninj3Oxford 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not to the people of the UK

[–]wedontlikespacesTyne and Wear 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also Darth Vader. But then again it's not meant to be a competition.

[–]Soul_Rage 24ポイント25ポイント  (10子コメント)

The MPs Tom Watson and David Davis were jointly named internet hero for their legal action against the Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act (DRIPA).

Hmm. From a related article:

Two leading Westminster civil liberties campaigners, David Davis and Tom Watson, are to mount a high court legal challenge to the government's new "emergency" surveillance law, which was rushed through parliament last week.

...wait a minute, is that the same Tom Watson as..?

Holy shit I think it is.

[–]Barry_Scotts_CatMeowchester 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I went to an Open Rights Group event that Tom Watson spoke at a while back.

He's pretty switched on about this stuff.

Also wat?

[–]ZebraSharkThames Valley 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should read his articles on New Statesman. He writes game reviews.

[–]LeonicholGeordie in exile (Bermuda) 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Committee Room 11, 2 years ago?

[–]Kantor48 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's also running to be deputy Labour leader. I think he'd be a good influence.

[–]scouserdave -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

[–]Soul_Rage 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

...and?

[–]scouserdave 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

As in not quite the hero? You knew that, surely?

[–]Soul_Rage 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

First of all, I never said or intended to suggest he was a hero. But let's address your post anyway.

Here is his response. Again, I am not praising him as a hero, or saying he is a perfect bastion of virtue.

Now, I think the actuality of the event was that the crowd was split, but whether that was done by the community itself, or by organisation is unclear. What probably is a safe assumption is that it wasn't a suggestion by either of the MPs present; as that would be political suicide. What is the most likely scenario is that any split in the crowd was done entirely out of their control, and they were left with two choices: Engage the community as they intended to, without mentioning it, or simply not engage the community at all. Political discourse does not happen when you refuse to talk to the people; it's about compromise. It's a less than ideal scenario, sure, but there were likely no right answers.

I also think that the newspaper has a motivation to sensationalise the story to an extent; this behaviour is basically universal at this point. Naturally, the MP himself as a motivation to completely dismiss the claims, hence his response. His claim is backed up by numerous other candidates that were present. So take both sides with a grain of salt. My conclusion is that this isn't a situation worth needlessly condemning an MP for.

[–]scouserdave -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

We'll never know his reasons, as he refused to share them. You do a creditable being an apologist for him though.

[–]Soul_Rage 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You do a creditable being an apologist for him though.

Did you have trouble reading my post? I'm not being an apologist, I'm evaluating the situation as more complicated than the simplistic representation you presented.

Sorry if critical thinking was a bit much for you. Not every comment is taking a side for or against the subject.

[–]wengerista 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

I refuse to buy anything in Maidenhead in protest at them inflicting Theresa May on us. Not that I'd probably travel 25 miles to shop in a place named after a hymen anyway, but you know.

[–]HalkLanarkshire 106ポイント107ポイント  (14子コメント)

Guess that was decided before yesterday....

[–]cuntarsetits 72ポイント73ポイント  (13子コメント)

I was trying to figure out what on earth Theresa May could possibly have done yesterday to make up for the years of unmitigated evil and wilful ignorance she has inflicted upon the UK up to this point, when it suddenly dawned on me that you must be referring to the reddit CEO situation.

[–]Barry_Scotts_CatMeowchester 55ポイント56ポイント  (11子コメント)

Not really relevent in the UK, or in the internet as a whole.

[–]HalkLanarkshire 34ポイント35ポイント  (10子コメント)

Yeah, I think Halk may not have been entirely serious.

[–]Barry_Scotts_CatMeowchester 45ポイント46ポイント  (7子コメント)

JOKING, ON THE INTERNET?

[–]HalkLanarkshire 20ポイント21ポイント  (6子コメント)

It's more likely than you think.

[–]Barry_Scotts_CatMeowchester 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

When I wer a lad, the internet was about serious things

[–]HalkLanarkshire 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

Limescale, rust, ground in dirt.

[–]Barry_Scotts_CatMeowchester 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

They're a challenge, but not for Cillit Meow!

[–]isyourlisteningbrokePlastic Paddy 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which the Nazi's discovered by accident whilst trying to synthesise a milk substitute.

[–]caffeinep0weredEdinburra 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

t'internet is serious business. Ya couldn't poast t'memes for fear of t'reprisals from t'internet police.

[–]KissTheBlade_Escocia 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That Halk's a crazy one!

[–]SalamanderSylphCambridge 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't know what Halk was thinking.

[–]KeepCalmMakeCoffeeWest Midlands 41ポイント42ポイント  (2子コメント)

She even looks like a female version of the demon headmaster

[–]Khathaar 17ポイント18ポイント  (10子コメント)

She's a witch

[–]HammeljTonbridge 42ポイント43ポイント  (9子コメント)

Fuck off, they're hardly that evil, i mean that comparison is grossly inaccurate, you owe the witch comunity an apology

[–]jamiroq 22ポイント23ポイント  (3子コメント)

One of them turned me into a newt

[–]BananasonfireNottinghamshire 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Did you get better?

[–]Sleepz197 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

He can type as a newt, I'd say that's quite an impressive achievement even if he's not going to get better.

[–]KarmaUK 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's failed his ATOS 'newt' test, and as a result we've stopped his benefits.

[–]Barry_Scotts_CatMeowchester 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

#WitchLivesMatter

#DairyLeeDunkers

[–]RaeliOnce Leeds, but now Amadora, PT 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Call me an idiot, but what do Dairylea Dunkers have to do with witches?

[–]PopeTheoskeptikNorth of The Wall 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. May would make a rubbish bridge.

[–]jmkniAntrim 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is a weird experience to be terrified of somebody because they are both in a position of power and also an idiot!

[–]ChinAqua 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

"If I had two bullets and I could shoot Theresa May, Katie Hopkins and Rupert Murdoch. I'd shoot Theresa twice."

[–]KarmaUK 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tough call, would May have any support for this bullshit without Murdoch's rags supporting her every move tho?

[–]Llama-Farmer 64ポイント65ポイント  (154子コメント)

Theresa May vs Ellen Pao Wrestlemania 32 please.

[–]jamdoughnut 125ポイント126ポイント  (151子コメント)

I couldn't give two shits about Ellen Pao. Theresa May actually affects my life.

[–]ClbullBristol 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]eggy900Stafford 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was amazing, thanks for sharing!

[–]ChildishGambinoFanLeicestershire 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope famous people see this stuff and it hurts their feelings loads

[–]Uaedaien 12ポイント13ポイント  (10子コメント)

God she's a hideous cunt.

[–]josmuEast Saxon 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty much, she has no fucking clue how this works. I really dislike the woman, she's vile.

[–]FMN2014Still waiting for a proper Aberdeen flair, mods? 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

No surprise the Witch of Whitehall won.

[–]de_jure 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel bad for the other nominees. They didn't stand a chance.

[–]segagamerCroydon 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Has the internet forgotten Katy Hopkins already?

[–]ThereCanBeOnly_Juan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can ignore Katie Hopkins and she will have no effect on your life.

[–]TheAkondOfSwat -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Internet hottie of the year more like!

[–]smallsmallness 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Fuck her

[–]axis_of_elvis 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

you first, ill masturbate in the corner looking at you doing the wrong thing.

[–]isyourlisteningbrokePlastic Paddy 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not going third. It'll be like fucking a bag of sick!

[–]axis_of_elvis 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

in the corner with me my son, its only wanking after all.

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

She wins "troll of the year" for labelling traditionalists who support marriage being between a man and a woman as "extremists" with the "potential for terrorism".

[–]schad501Expat -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

What's it like being on the wrong side of history?

[–][deleted] -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

That's exactly what all the Young Nazis said.

If ever there was a quote of the unthinking easily-led - it was exactly that.

You ought to tattoo your forehead with the word "compliant". If that contains too many letters try "doormat".

[–]schad501Expat 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sure. Because not wanting to interfere in other people's lives makes me a fascist.

[–][deleted] -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

You play the caring activist card now; but as proof of your conformity you have no evidence to show you were fighting for "gay marriage" ten years ago when it wasn't a popularist movement.

In fact you were probably making anti-gay slurs in the schoolyard with everybody else.

[–]schad501Expat 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Even if what you say is true, how does that change anything today? It means I would have changed my mind. Well...good for me. I hope you'll change yours.

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

So you're proud that you'd have joined in the Nazi movement in their time? Not me. I'm proud of being an independent thinker, not prone to the evil of popularism.

You clearly haven't thought life through - I'm betting you vote Labour. Well-meaning but so easily manipulated because thinking about consequences is too much for your tiny little mind

[–]schad501Expat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okey-dokey then.