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[–]CynicCorvus 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

exept every sub i have been on before they went dark have been full of very vocal users on about joining in, even on subs that arnt doing it there have been posts about it

[–]HatredsBlazingGun 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

People love drama and enjoy watching things burn.

[–]pickyaxe[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not denying that lots of people care about this issue, just that they're a majority.
For what it's worth I'm happy that people are vocal about it because it's a very real issue.

[–]liquidwax 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Person who is important to a small niche and almost no one else gets sacked for not illegitimate reasons

[citation needed]

[–]pickyaxe[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The amount of people who care about chooter, which I'm part of, is dwarfed by the amount of people who were denied service yet had no idea who she is. That's a fact.

[–]KiltmanenatorInexperienced Irregular Folds 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm all for what's been going on because it's the only damn way to show the admins just how out of touch they are, but thank you for offering up a perspective that I hadn't considered.

[–]pickyaxe[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thank you! That's exactly what I wanted to hear. If I could press some big red button right now and it'd instantly replace most of the current reddit administration, I'd be pushing that shit in a heartbeat.
edit: to add to this, I'll have to concede and say that I don't have anything resembling a foolproof plan of action in this case. i just know that the answer to abuse of power must start from voluntary user participation.

[–]reversememe 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think you're overreacting. These communities are strong enough to survive a day of inconvenience. It is entirely up to reddit whether the users are chased off permanently or not.

[–]pickyaxe[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, in retrospect I did overreact. We're not talking about a very long blackout here, and at the end of the day it's just a forum, a free one at that. I guess I got a little emotional there, and reacted more to the CONCEPT of a synchronized blackout rather than the short, controlled and supposedly well-received blackout that we actually got.
That said I still strongly think this warrants discussion. You have people cheering for this kind of powerplay, I think people should stop and reflect on what they're suggesting.

[–]chungEchungs 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nailed it - this is exactly what I feel as well.

Powermods are not to be trusted and they're easily just as cancerous to reddit as the admins.

[–]Rerka_Evenstar 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

It is right out of the SJW manual, yes. That's why they don't have a response. They will fall to their own tactics. If you got into #gamergate under the delusion that this wasn't about turning the gun on SJWs, you acted in error. That's exactly what must happen. There is no room for reason when dealing with the unreasonable.

[–]bananaramarang 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow where to begin. You're conflating the collusion of journalists who are supposed to be independent with reddit mods taking action on a specific issue. It's not collusion of a bunch of mods decide to do something, its collusion if its done in secret and deliberately hidden from people.

Next, stalling on a hot issue does damage to your attempt to change the issue, like how fox always try to stall after a tragedy because it's "too soon". Strike (While the irons hot) two.

Also the idea that "Power" should not be used to effect change is like saying you should negotiate without any sort of leverage.

Finally you assert the point that most people on reddit don't know whats going on and that they don't care, with out knowing what they know or care about, You also acknowledge that most people don't know about the issue but assume they wont care if they did, when you cant know that.

[–]mscomies 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mass contacting advertisers was originally a SJW tactic too, but it worked wonders for us.

[–]pickyaxe[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the "abuse of power" part that gets me. Contacting advertisers may be an activist's tactic, but I think there's nothing particularly wrong with it - customers voting with their feet is healthy and pro consumer-choice, and informing an advertiser that the site they are advertising in goes against the advertiser's customers is not wrong. Furthermore, the advertiser itself is contacted privately. It can disregard the e-mails and keep advertising in that site, if it so wishes.

[–]BrittlethreadConfirmed Illuminati 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, you have a point. Regular reddit users who aren't interested in drama are probably feeling pretty inconvenienced right now by not being able to browse their favorite subreddits.

I'm not really aware of whether the subscribers of these subreddits had any say on whether they should participate in the blackout or not. If the decisions made by the moderators were not endorsed by the public, then you could look at this situation as 'mods abusing their authority and power'.

On the other hand: with how the reddit admins have been acting, this may be the only effective way to make them address the issue at all. I'm not particularly fond of radical tactics like these, but I also like progress being made more over spending an eternity hoping for a diplomatic solution to present itself.

In the end I think we can all agree that this blackout will make reddit admins more mindful of how their own abuse of power and authority might effect the functionality and appeal of their site.

[–]Metailurus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't particularly like the power structure on this site from top to bottom (top being CEO, bottom being bog standard moderators). I hope they destroy each other.

[–]jnnnx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually agree with op. Yes admins and pao will most likely ruin reddit, but that doesn't make this right.

I was in position as employee when new manager was doing the worst possible decisions, not communicating and fired coworker and friend. Should i have had shut the webpage down, turned off the phones and locked the front door "in protest"? No, that is not what you do. You go on, or leave. You can't sabotage the company. I very much understand that mods don't want to see ruined something they love and spend years building. But they did it volunteerily and unfortunately that doesn't make them "entitled" to do something like this.

So as i understand why this is happening i think it is wrong. We should all just leave. Unfortunately voat is down at the moment

[–]harrisonstwrt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What I want is answers: Why is Victoria gone so abruptly? What is Reddit going to do to fill in the void? Why are Katanas so OP? I WANT ANSWERS DAMMIT