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[–]surqle 1235ポイント1236ポイント  (118子コメント)

Reddit alternative...........work i guess?

[–]_PM_YOUR_BREAKFAST_ 358ポイント359ポイント  (60子コメント)

That, or sleep.

[–]Im_Dorothy_Harris 205ポイント206ポイント  (51子コメント)

What is "outside"?

Hold me, I'm scared!

[–]_PM_YOUR_BREAKFAST_ 124ポイント125ポイント  (47子コメント)

/r/outside? its a new mmo

[–]zombieHunterq8 54ポイント55ポイント  (38子コメント)

fuck that if it's not free to play i'm out

[–]Tischlampe 179ポイント180ポイント  (10子コメント)

It is free to play but totally imbalanced. Depending on which server and which clan you spawn, which is random, you will either have a great gaming experience with lots of funny side quests or you spend your whole time grinding gold to buy food and water to keep your character alive.

[–]zombieHunterq8 36ポイント37ポイント  (2子コメント)

I spawned in one of the oil rich servers. I spent time in a different server for a while, and realized most players on my server are total dicks, or are coming from really shitty servers to farm gold.

I'm forced to leave my server to a new area to play from time to time or I go insane.

[–]unkasen 69ポイント70ポイント  (13子コメント)

It's free to play, but it's pay to win.

[–]zombieHunterq8 27ポイント28ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm also pissed the devs never inform us about the new expansions, or what happens when the game is over. I mean, I realize that billions of users are working daily creating new content, but that means nothing if once you die, you get a Black Screen of Death.

I think they should release the Alien Worlds expansion, I'd probably renew my subscription for that

[–]jonas691 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

Fuck no, that would mean i would have to do something productive

[–]justVinnyZee 106ポイント107ポイント  (16子コメント)

/r/justsaynope

July 10 has been suggested as a no reddit day. Don't post, comment, or even load the site. Go through the weekend if you can.

Edit: If every person that thought "this will never happen" actually went along with it, it would happen. There seems to be a lot of people upset and few willing to even find something to do other than reddit for a few days.

I'm open to other ideas, but this is the only hope normal users have to make any kind of meaningful impact here.

EDIT2: spread the message guys, copy this comment on big subreddits, comment on high karma posts, make posts with this message. We need people to see this in order to work and to hit where it hurts!

[–]albatr0xx 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

Works for me, the PoE expansion launches on that day so I won't have time for anything else anyways.

[–]Dont-be_an-Asshole 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

You guys should start a support group, like aa for people who can't go without a website they don't like for even a day

[–]Abandon-All-Hope 2089ポイント2090ポイント  (912子コメント)

Kind of ironic that Digg is launching a new version today. That website self-destructed by pissing off its user base and it seems reddit is heading in that direction. Wonder where we'll go next?

[–]rrredditor 1494ポイント1495ポイント  (720子コメント)

Many are saying voat.co (pretty much a clone) but their servers can't handle the influx. They are down again right now.

Edit: made it a link even though it's still down.

[–]Abandon-All-Hope 788ポイント789ポイント  (520子コメント)

Reddit was pretty terrible at first too but as the user base grew and more money was invested into the site things got to where they are now.

[–]GRUMMPYGRUMP 640ポイント641ポイント  (471子コメント)

Yeah but voat would be getting all that user base at once. Which means different issues.

[–]Stanzilla28 383ポイント384ポイント  (35子コメント)

Pied Piper anyone?

[–]Sylvester_Scott 312ポイント313ポイント  (28子コメント)

^^^ This guy fucks

[–]MushroomedAnus 107ポイント108ポイント  (11子コメント)

You know Sylvester_Scott, I have been known to fuck myself.

[–]AceCase2D 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, but can he jerk off a bunch of dicks at an optimal rate?

[–]xScott18x 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Who's has 3 comas and 2 thumbs? This guy.

[–]Jay_Burd 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

3 comas? That's unfortunate

[–]bandersnatchh 474ポイント475ポイント  (405子コメント)

It won't be all at once.

Some people will stay here for the smaller communities. A lot of people will actually.

The people who truly appreciate a more...free... posting environment will move. Voat will be a bit more edgy, while reddit is a bit more corporate.

[–]Idontgrammer 355ポイント356ポイント  (289子コメント)

So now the hierarchy will be 4chan - voat - reddit - buzzfeed - facebook?.

[–]unclefuckert 199ポイント200ポイント  (39子コメント)

As soon as they try to monetise Reddit they headed for a disaster like this. Their bet is that the larger part of their userbase will stick around. In the end, people dont really care about originality it seems. Its a shame that genuine good efforts made by subReddits are going to waste over money.

There is a divide between members right now. One part backs up Reddit, the other part supports Reddits members. In the end its the members that produce OC and discussions. Its members that make AMA's viable and its the amount of members and the succes they have as a group that made Reddit attractive for advertisement.

The future of AMA's will be this:

Mr Burns your campaign has the momentum of a runaway freight train how does it feel to be so popular.

Voat is a pretty good alternative if you want more than just the occasional circlejerk. The only problem Voat has since the FPH-debacle is that the new influx of members base Voats identity on the downfall of Reddit. This will take some time to seep out of its social fabric, because granted, the larger part of its users came there because they were dissatisfied with Reddit.

Reddits leftover members will consist, for a large part, out of people simply agreeing with each other. There is already a sort of self-censorship going around where 'offensive' opinions are deemed unworthy. This has started a long time ago already, when Reddit changed his voting system. Before the current one, you had a score next to your name (+11/-5) for example. You could see people agreeing with you even if it was unpopular. Now you just have a score (-11) and in effect this made the truth a popularity contest. The people that wont leave Reddit for any of the numerous alternatives are most likely to avoid certain phrases and opinions to not rustle any jimmies.

Reddit still calls itself the frontpage of the internet, but really... Thats not what they are anymore now are they? Have you seen any TTP or TTIP on the frontpage? Its probably just funny videos, celebrities and hailcorporate-material... Oh and cats, because hurdur we love kitties. Reddit is part of the centipede now, closer to the ass than the mouth.

This message is powered by Coca Cola and Redbull.

The narwhal weeps silently.

[–]i_give_you_gum 43ポイント44ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yep losing the upvote downvote numbers irked me to no end. It was half the fun seeing how many agreed and how many didn't.

[–]surflessinseattle 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

I dislike subs that have disabled the downvote button. Its so fucking satisfying downvoting shit content.

[–]Ninwa 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Upvotes & downvotes were never meant to represent agreement or disagreement. They're meant to bubble up insightful and meaningful comments and increase the SNR.

[–]kakarogeta 46ポイント47ポイント  (17子コメント)

Reddit won't die like Digg. You people are so caught up in recency bias. You see these posts and you see these comments, but you forget that the vast majority of the Reddit populace are lurkers. There are like 10 million unique users. Even if an exodus occurs, this will be a minuscule amount. Most people don't give a shit about the politics, they just come to Reddit to laugh at maymays, or visit a dedicated forum for their topic of choice. Voat will just be a dedicated circlejerk.

I know I won't be going anywhere. The sports communities will stay together. The science communities will stay together. The TV communities will stay together. These are places where people go to discuss things they are passionate about and simply won't be able to be replicated on any new site unless the entire communities hold a group meeting and leave en masse. If a percentage goes, they won't be noticed. Reddit will persist. The people who left will realise how their alternative is not anywhere near as good - and they will return.

TL;DR - Most people couldn't give a flying fuck about this shit. Just because the front page is full of it doesn't even go close to being a representative sample.

[–]RsonW 42ポイント43ポイント  (5子コメント)

Same was true of Digg. The old rule of 10s applies. 10% have accounts, 10% of those create content. Reddit loses that 1% of users creating content, the other 99% have no reason to visit.

[–]imakemorefreshaccoun 27ポイント28ポイント  (4子コメント)

You're right. The lurkers of the world are here to consume content. They don't give a shit where they go to find it. You can't shit on the content creators and expect to hold onto the lurkers.

[–]FBAguy13 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

In reality the best content for enthusiasts is not coming from reddit. If you want to skim the surface of topics then reddit is the place. But if you want to have conversations delving into technical aspects or theory you need to find a traditional forum where the most recent reply pushes the thread to the top.

In general when I am looking for answers to tech questions or specifics on grilling techniques or anything specific, reddit is not the place to come.

[–]mostlygaming 237ポイント238ポイント  (88子コメント)

Or we could all collectively raise the value of Digg again?

[–]helloimwilliamholden 55ポイント56ポイント  (5子コメント)

Ha! Can you imagine if Digg became something like the old Digg again and we all migrated back? That would be hilarious. I had always assumed that Digg was totally dead and they missed their shot. It would be interesting if they had a way to take advantage of this. However, they're not the same type of site anymore.

[–]needlzor 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

However, they're not the same type of site anymore.

They may be trying to become that type of site again though

We’ve been working hard on bringing conversations back to Digg. Want to help us out? Sign up to be a beta tester so you can tell us what you like, and what you, well, don’t like.

[–]woopsifarted 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

they re launched it today I'm pretty sure actually

[–]FuckYofavMC 313ポイント314ポイント  (67子コメント)

I'd prefer that. Voat doesn't have anything original. The only thing I'd figured out that would be different is that people can earn money with high rated submissions. And now imagine reddits userbase+money for karma. This will be a shitpostfest.

Digg on the other hand has more of a "nerdy" and "scientific" background and from what I've seen the last years they focused on quality content and have once again a small community.

Well since reddit has grown so much especially the last 2 years I'd guess that the commmunity will split up. Younger user go to voat, the older ones go to digg. Some will actually get a life and stop beeing pussies about some BS website.

[–]I_Dumped_Adele 162ポイント163ポイント  (22子コメント)

Some will actually get a life and stop beeing pussies about some BS website.

TO THE WOODS AND NATURE WE GO!!!!

[–]bigredfred 17ポイント18ポイント  (12子コメント)

Seriously I don't understand this viewpoint. Are we really missing all that much? Or just different activities with their own cliques?

[–]Tom908 19ポイント20ポイント  (10子コメント)

The point about Voat is that it uses a better system then Digg though, it's obvious people prefer the 'reddit' system. The only difference is that it's supposed to be run better.

[–]DryZebra 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just wish there was a Voat Enhancement Suite. Lacking some key features and it's killing me.

[–]Low_Key93 55ポイント56ポイント  (14子コメント)

Can you elaborate on the making money for content point? I feel that would totally break the whole site if true.

[–]Silver_kitty 35ポイント36ポイント  (2子コメント)

Their site says that users can earn a percentage of the ad revenue that their post earns. I don't know how this works in reality, and I haven't looked around the site since its been having trouble keeping up with demand to see how ad placement works across the site.

[–]ThatWasClassy 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

He's full of shit. Voat doesn't monetize anything, the financing for the site is purely donation driven, mostly by free speech advocates that have already gone there.

[–]altthought 39ポイント40ポイント  (4子コメント)

Voat actually has a lot of awesome transparency features that Reddit doesn't. For example, you can visit a page for any subverse to view deleted posts and which mod deleted them. Same with comments.

[–]concretepigeon 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

For example, you can visit a page for any subverse to view deleted posts and which mod deleted them. Same with comments.

How do you deal with posts that are removed because they're libellous, illegal or otherwise breaching site rules.

[–]dschaefer 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've been using digg again lately but right now it's basically a well curated true reddit. The signal to noise ratio is great but I wish they'd at least turn comments on for some sense of community. I left digg a year or two ahead of the v4 debacle but reddit 2009 vs reddit today are so different I needed to find a place for some consistently decent content.

[–]neosharkies 68ポイント69ポイント  (77子コメント)

8chan - 4chan - voat - [not well known site] - reddit - buzzfeed - tumblr - facebook.

[–]_pi 38ポイント39ポイント  (7子コメント)

*chans have been dead for ages for anyone who is not an edgy teen. Seriously 4chan used to be a pretty decent community and it even included Randal Munroe who helped set up the first iteration of r9k. Everyone with half a brain left when 13 year old /b/tards started to believe the shit they were reading on it.

[–]Musky_Elon 40ポイント41ポイント  (19子コメント)

Can't we collectively commission for new servers for Voat? Or pitch in and try to buy Reddit as an entire community? It just seems to me that a lot of people want an alternative so lets start making one, no? A sort of reddit for the people by the people funded strictly through donations or gold or whatever, where there is a set of rules specifically for transparency and what not. And I'm 100% serious about this. It can be sort of like a new country but an online country. Victoria can be our first employee. It just seems crazy to me that with so many wanting change and a specific service, that someone doesn't just begin creating one. I just learned the other day about how six major corporations own all our news outlets, radio stations, movie studios, etc. it is absolutely scary. A service like Reddit is absolutely needed.

[–]phonemonkey669 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

Isn't Reddit owned by Conde Nast, which is to print media what those behemoths are to film and TV?

[–]splynncryth 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't know if such a thing is possible. It would be interesting if we had a market value for Reddit, and a crowdfunding project was set up with that target. Even then, I don't think Conde Nast would sell it until too many users have fled for the site to have much value.

Maybe if Reddit had a PR person to explain the termination of Victoria...oh.

The timing of all this in relation to the CEO's very public losses in court really cast serious doubt on all this. Is this a ploy for short term profit to pay bills that destroys the long term viability of the site? It feels like it, but have any of the recent changes to Reddit increased its profit that much?

[–]trash_gordon 13ポイント14ポイント  (20子コメント)

Yeah, but now we have services like AWS, where you can just rent servers. They could have a hundred new machines up and running in a hour.

[–]LouisGDMNMarloweLitt 35ポイント36ポイント  (15子コメント)

...and down the second their coffers are empty. Which would be what, within the same hour?

[–]bartoksic 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not quite. There was a thread about the use of AWS in /r/programming the other day. To scale effectively, you have to have two things: 1) the website infrastructure and 2) the money. Voat is still new on the infrastructure point and who knows how big their warchest is. Hell, even reddit experiences sustained downtime every other day.

[–]Goonred 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

But in this day and age people want stuff that just works. If voat just keeps going down whenever people want to use it, it might not be a viable alternative.

[–]LuciferMayCry 14ポイント15ポイント  (12子コメント)

Every website is terrible at first, think of youtube.

[–]terminal_mole 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah they are no where ready for the kind of traffic that disgruntled reddit users bring. Happened with fph too.

[–]RockinHawkin 45ポイント46ポイント  (27子コメント)

I've seen some voat users complain about the influx of reddit users. Their community is much like old reddit, smaller with more discussion and less memes and puns and things, and they are afraid the mass reddit exodus will just turn voat into a reddit clone more than it already is.

[–]Holy_City 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

I tried voat for a bit and had to leave, because the user base and commentary was so awful. Every thread felt like i was in /r/conspiracy or /r/KotakuInAction. Then I migrated off the front page to smaller forums, but there was no one there at all.

[–]bernie16wb 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's been my impression with Voat as well. Plus they seem so proud that they let the jailbait sub or whatever they call them exist.

[–]Dinosaur_Monkey 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not even mad if a lot of reddit user leave and the more niche subreddits get more on-topic conversation. The memes and meta comments are kind of annoying to keep track of.

[–]deadjawa 24ポイント25ポイント  (6子コメント)

I don't think the long term answer is another reddit clone. I think the problem with content voting sites is that they are naturally unstable. Websites like reddit, digg, and slashdot didn't fail because of single events, single events just provided a tipping point that made users realize how displeased they were with the website. The problem is that the voting-based system of content generation just doesn't work very well at getting new and interesting content to the top. It tends to encourage groupthink and reposting the same type of shit over and over again. Also, as the site gets more popular and accepted, the more power users and interest groups become the ones that influence content. To the point where today, your average user has an almost impossible time getting original content seen by people on large subreddits. Smaller subreddits provide a temporary reprieve, until they get big enough that the signal to noise ratio drops to the point of it becoming almost a parody of itself.

Moderation seems to help somewhat, but even extremely heavily moderated subreddits like askhistorians have over time been overrun with reposts, poor quality responses, and "rule creep" which has brought it closer to the reddit groupthink meme subreddits that it's desperately tried to avoid.

So I think the solution is that someone's gotta reinvent the "social news website" genre for a larger internet if they want it to be sustainable in the long run.

[–]szerintem_faszom 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

Also, what the fuck does that name mean? Vargo Hoat?

[–]turole 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

The conspiracy theorists, fat person haters, and child porn readers got there first and set up shop. If rather go down with this ship than deal with them.

[–]KurayamiShikaku 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Voat.co seems really nice - they just don't have the servers/user base to compete with reddit at the moment.

I'm hoping that changes over time.

[–]balancespec2 375ポイント376ポイント  (17子コメント)

Digg is like your fat ex that just noticed you had a fight with the hot girl you left her for, so she tosses down that donut, wipes her chin off, throws a dress and too much makeup on and awkwardly struts around you while winking.

[–]letsjumpofftheboat 250ポイント251ポイント  (57子コメント)

there's aether. decentralized, anonymized, and ephemeral

http://getaether.net

[–]TheRealCorngood 110ポイント111ポイント  (14子コメント)

I'm not sure why you got downvoted. If we want to avoid having this same exact conversation about a different corporation in a few years, something decentralised is the only option.

[–]LouisGDMNMarloweLitt 46ポイント47ポイント  (9子コメント)

cornhole here has a point

[–]neuroSplicer 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

Who here is ready to install a client for this? What about mobile?

I'm for it and I think quality comes with popularity but it's not a good immediate alternative. Hope people will hop over though.

[–]Bierfreund 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly, I think it's healthy for culture (in this instance internet culture) to have "trends" or costums change every few years.

That's why i don't think that boat is the best thing to flock to, it's too similar in the way it works to reddit. I would like something new altogether, even if that means that in a few years it'll die for the same reasons.

[–]JoeyCalamaro 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

there's aether. decentralized, anonymized, and ephemeral

While Aether is an interesting suggestion, it's not without it's downsides. First off usernames are not unique. Multiple people can have the same names. On top of that you can't edit what you write, and everything you do write vanishes after 6 months. It almost seems more like a glorified chat system with links than a social news site. :-/

[–]IonTichy 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

So basically: back to Usenet ;D
(although in a much modern version)

[–]lowrads 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I notice the website has facebook scripts running on it. Is the application service tied into that odious network as well?

[–]floxflex 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just checked with uBlock. And yes, there is a request to facebook connect. That is pretty weird!?

[–]newcrap 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

anyone have a node i could connect to? it's taking an awful long time for me to sync

[–]henboffman 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there no mobile option?

[–]0Keske0 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Im in, DLing now. We need something like this.

[–]master_of_deception 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

doesnt work, takes hours to find peers

[–]cRaziMan 150ポイント151ポイント  (19子コメント)

I'm off to 4chan. Who's with me?

Edit: changed my mind, I'm going to pinterest instead. I've heard this one guy called anon is in charge of everything on 4chan (and apparently he's a fag).

[–]Sylvester_Scott 74ポイント75ポイント  (3子コメント)

You can't even LOOK at Pinterest without having to join up. Fuck that.

[–]anticipaci0n 49ポイント50ポイント  (2子コメント)

I will never join Pinterest because of that. It pisses me off SO much.

[–]Tesserach 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Quora too. I'll inspect element and delete their stupid sign-up box but I won't make an account.

[–]hammerfag 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

4chan has gone to shit, moot got pussy whipped and is trying to make 4chan a tolerant and PC place.

[–]Digg_MarketingTeam 52ポイント53ポイント  (4子コメント)

Launching a new version today? If you are talking about their redesign into a very small curated collection of links, this has been the case for probably over a year. I can't see a discernible today than yesterday, last week or last month.

The only thing the old Digg and new Digg share is the name. It's a different website with different owners and, I'm assuming, different staff.

I am in no way associated with Digg. This username (check creation date) was created as a joke and when Digg was the old format. Ironically, I've grown to really like Digg over the past six months. I've become a daily [workday] visitor.

[–]nibelheim_citizen 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, the new Digg is genuinely good for finding interesting articles that aren't just clickbait trash.

[–]buckie33 30ポイント31ポイント  (19子コメント)

For anyone good at programming. This is a perfect time to launch their own site.

[–]talkinbollox 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Make a new site now that becomes Voat's Voat, as Voat becomes the new Reddit and Reddit becomes the new Digg. Then five years from now, when Voat becomes the new Digg, your site becomes the new Reddit!

Guys, I think I have a new retirement plan...

[–]Captain_Bob 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

If I don't want to retire for a while, should I create Voat's Voat's Voat?

[–]talkinbollox 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's Voats all the way down...

[–]xxkid123 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

You don't even have to be all that good. Reddit is open source. You'd literally just have to fork the source, change the logo and colors and you could have a working copy within the day.

[–]Noohandle 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

Totally. It could only take what, one, two hours tops?

[–]Maad-Dog 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Back to Digg. Its an endless cycle of useless web addiction

[–]ornix 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Another site that self-destructed through a redesign: Gametrailers.com

[–]SobeyHarker 866ポイント867ポイント  (107子コメント)

EDIT: DUE TO POPULAR SUPPORT FROM THE CAMPUS SOCIETY COMMUNITY - CAMPUS SOCIETY ARE FORMALLY OFFERING VICTORIA A ROLE IN LONDON

Pastebin mirror of letter:

PASTEBIN MIRROR. <---

Victoria on Twitter


I'm a community manager for a small university/college based platform and while it'd be fun for me to tout us I think it'd be very useful for everyone to know what options are available to them.

I'm based in the UK but these should be very useful for a lot of people.


Stacksity - I think the concept of this is pretty great - it's really simple looking but it's obviously well put together. Subreddits here are 'stacks' and while these stacks aren't moderated the better content does rise to the top and you can explore various areas fairly easily once you have an account and subscribe to those that you're into.

I must admit I do find the $ prefixing everything kinda obnoxious though.

However nothing gets removed as far as I can tell and it's new so we should really cut it some slack and see how it grows. I'm looking forward to seeing how it expands.


Voat - Voat is essentially a Reddit clone - and that's OK. They have a karma system and the community is nice and welcoming and very open to discussion. It's very basic looking and if you're familiar with how Reddit works you'll be familiar with Voat works.

They get a lot of flak for being down often but it's run by a small but dedicated team who take donations to try and keep the servers up so it's rather admirable that they're doing as well as they are as whenever Reddit messes up people throw it around to immediately jump ship.

It's fun and fairly light though.


Snapzu - Snapzu is a much more polished looking link aggregator. You can post 'snaps' which are links/content to various channels that they call 'tribes' and it has a wide variety of subjects for you to explore. There's a rep system which accumulates over time with titles for you to get - but it does mean that those who have signed up earlier get more perceived clout than those that are new. At the moment you have to request an invite to join BUT they tend to dish those out quickly enough.

I have to say though it's not as...strongly opinionated as Reddit which is a good and a bad thing as it lends to very passive and dull comments.


Campus Society - This is purely aimed at university and college students so this won't be of any appeal those who aren't attending. You're grouped into channels where you can instant chat / post content with other students in your classes and university. This went live on Monday so it's very new in beta but there's also groups you can join similar to subreddits where you can chat / post and it's proving popular in London for a way of meeting new people who are at your university but haven't met yet.

It doesn't rely on upvotes / likes to determine user score but a 'GPA' system which goes up if users respond well to you and down if you're inactive over a long period of time or get reported by other users.

Full disclosure I'm part of the team here but if you have any questions I'm happy to answer them! (If your university isn't featured let me know and I can check that out)


Wechat - Now most people assume that this app, and sorry it's app based, is primarily just for the Chinese due to it's massive Chinese audience. Which is fair as it used to be Weixin and it did start in China. It does however have a massive, and very engaged, English speaking community and while there's as bit of culture clash it's actually a very interesting community to be a part of. However to find good content you have to find public accounts from people who post that content so you do end up having to put a bit of work in to find content you like.

I really enjoy the personal touch of that because there's a much more personal connection with these people as they tend to respond often, use actual names/faces, and have a real passion for what they're doing but it can be rather intense at times.


Aether - Another app based community however it's on the otherside of the coin. While Wechat is a hyperactive platform where you use your real name etc this is much more private scene which uses anonymous posting.

They're not likely to go down anytime soon though because their infrastructure does not rely on a centralised server setup but p2p. Their goal originally was simply to be a purely anonymous reddit so if you're privacy orientated this might be interesting for you but as it's links and not images etc most people might not find it that interesting - especially as it's in dire need of content and as anyone can pretend to be you it's hard to build any sense of community.


Yik Yak an interesting concept but the execution leaves something to be desired for the most part. Recent changes have improved the flow of conversation though which is good as you can identify who you're responding to and the community has taken steps to help cut down on abuse which was a problem early on. Yaks with -5 are deleted so the community polices itself.

Yaks are text based though and very short form so this might not appeal to everyone but it can be rather lighthearted and interesting for localised content.


The Student Room - This is an old school forum really primarily focused on UK students but it's got a wonderfully dedicated moderation team and a strong core community who are extremely helpful. Like most forums it is broken down into a wide variety of subjects/interests and users build rep through going their posts liked etc.

It's rather solid but it is definitely focused more on the UK student crowd.


Stumble Upon - This is how I found Reddit originally about 4 years or so ago as Digg was blocked at work. Stumble Upon is rather simple in its approach but it's a great way to view all types of content. Simply signup, select your interests, then click the Stumble Upon button and it'll randomly select you a tagged page/article/video based on what you selected. The community isn't really that big on commenting and what not, per se, but there is certainly something very addictive about clicking that button for new content.

Honestly I had so much love for this website I fear to go back.


Hacker News - This one is more for the tech orientated crowd and despite the overly abused 'hacker' title it's a great site for keeping in the loop with changes in the tech industry and for new and upcoming sites and startups.

After /r/technology took a tumble in quality I ended up just going back to Hacker News for quite awhile to be honest as it's simple, practical, and the community is very informed and helpful.


Product Hunt - This is a dedicated community focused on sharing and talking about the latest websites and startups. It's invite only if you want to discuss but you can vote until PH decide you're worthy of commenting. Some people complain of them being a tad elitist but I've met the team first hand and they're pretty dedicated to focusing purely on making a platform that's about showcasing the latest and greatest.

Though it does get a bit dull seeing the same people leaving comments and the discussion can be pretty thin.


(PART TWO IN MY REPLY TO THIS COMMENT)

[–]Nutputt 101ポイント102ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's the only summary I've seen of all the sites and it seems pretty fair. Everyone else just plugs the site they like, including myself. Good job and thanks for taking the time to put that together for everyone.

[–]SobeyHarker 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

No problem I feel the same way so I tried to just be honest and talk about what appeals to me about each. Part two is in my response as I ran out of space.

[–]SobeyHarker 273ポイント274ポイント  (31子コメント)

Tumblr I'm expecting a bit (see lot) of flak for suggesting Tumblr but if you stay away from the echochamber angry ranty people and explore some of the more popular tags you'll find that there's a whole wealth of quality content worth reading. They're more into their TV/Film fandoms and so if you're not able to stomach that kind of thing you might want to pass but for lighthearted content it's not that bad.

Personally it's not to my liking but it's a viable alternative that while hated on will more than likely have something to cater to your taste.


Newsvine - I really like Newsvine - it's a small company that focus on linking out news but it's nowhere as extreme as /r/worldnews and the community is rather interested in current events. Discussion is small / limited however so you really have to put some effort in to generate discussion but it can certainly be worth it if quality and not quantity of replies work for you.

Frizbee I really dig how Frizbee are with anonymity and their general mission. Their mods are vocal but friendly but best of all their against censorship and really want to see their community grow in line with that. Which pretty much lends well to open discussion. They're in beta and while the site could do with some fine tuning it's a great experience despite the lack of polish.


Slicer This is small and ran by a single person, as far as I'm aware, but I quite like to lurk on it and have a nosey around. Terms of use are pretty standard but I'm looking forward to seeing how this evolves as there's steady traction and I'm not entirely sure if the admin has made a decision on how he wants to grow his site.

It can be a little messy though as the default page throws everything into "Any" as opposed to a space, which function like subreddits, but I kinda do like that as it reminds me of how /r/all used to be.

Seriously though props to this guy if it's just the one person as it's really well done.


Other sites, but I'm not familiar with them and will update post once I know more:

Linkibl

Wykop

Hubski

UPRISER

Anyway I hope this is helpful to you /r/RedditAlternatives and I'd love to hear about any new ones that are coming out or that you love. I'm really into how the social dynamic of online communities work since the IRC/BBS days as a kid.

[–]jackpg98 71ポイント72ポイント  (10子コメント)

My main objection to tumblr isn't the community, it's the fact that the "notes" system is extremely poorly designed.

Consider the following: Someone says: "I hate black people". 50 people favorite this, 10 people comment "wtf dude, that's terrible." Those people are favorited a total of 4940 times. Then it looks like "I hate black people." got 5000 favorites. Extremely ambiguous.

[–]SobeyHarker 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

That's a good point. That's kinda why we went with the GPA system too because that means if a good user turns into a bit of a pillock down the line his GPA will change to reflect that.

[–]_Doh_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The thing I don't like about tumblr is that it wasn't designed for conversation.I tried it a few years ago and felt so isolated.

[–]windwaker9 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's bizarre how many people on tumblr try and use it to talk about serious and complex issues, the website is not set up for discussion at all.

That said, tumblr is amazing at what it does do well - giving you a steady stream of interesting, visual stuff. I recommend everyone follow Wil Wheaton, Neil Gaiman, then check out the tags you're interested in and go from there. It's well worth trying out.

It's also amazing for porn, btw.

[–]frakthesystem 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

I would give you gold if that wasn't counterproductive right now. Thank you.

[–]SobeyHarker 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Haha that's quite alright, glad you found it useful.

[–]saucekorn69 90ポイント91ポイント  (21子コメント)

What's wrong with reddit Canadians ?

[–]dsolution 88ポイント89ポイント  (10子コメント)

We are bored.

[–]mmmellowyellow 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think it's not so much that we NEED an alternative here in Canada, but that we enjoy being aware of all options and alternatives.

Will we actually switch over? Highly unlikely because then we will feel too sorry for Reddit

(edit: formatting)

[–]toyotaviejo 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry, but this place can be downright impolite! And what with the way they treated that poor girl Victoria!

[–]AR-47 188ポイント189ポイント  (12子コメント)

That looks identical to the trend when you search "Reddit"

[–]eyeoutthere 93ポイント94ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yep: http://www.google.com/trends/explore?hl=en-GB&q=Reddit+alternative#q=Reddit%20alternative%2C%20Reddit&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT%2B4

But it is interesting that "Reddit Alternative" increased 46% over the last two periods, where "Reddit" has gained only 5% in the same time-frame.

I would be interested to see a chart with the ratio of the two over time; but, I don't know how to mine the data from that site.

EDIT: Found out how to download the data; Here is a comparison chart:

http://i.imgur.com/EfFnbKN.jpg

(Downloaded from https://www.google.com/trends/ and plotted in Excel)

Note the last data point in the chart is from 06/28 to 07/04 so that data point is INCOMPLETE at the time of plotting on 7/3 11:30am EST.

As for the peaks: I believe 8/31/2014 was release of the AMA app and 6/7 was Pao drama.

[–]Cosmologicon 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

You can't get absolute numbers, but it's tiny. Interest in "reddit alternative" is dwarfed by interest in "family matters", "the spice girls", and "milli vanilli". Two data points with such small numbers is not enough to constitute a trend.

[–]beekeeper23 35ポイント36ポイント  (5子コメント)

Remember that as Reddit becomes a more popular site, the number of users looking for an alternative will almost certainly increase, but that statistic alone is meaningless. You need to see how many users are looking for an alternative as a percentage of total users.

You need to index.

For example, if in 2012 Reddit only had 1000 users and 10 of them were looking for an alternative, that's obviously 1%.

If, the next year, Reddit has 3000 users and 20 of them are looking for an alternative, then you've doubled the amount of people looking for an alternative. 100% growth, but the overall growth is 200%, so you're actually under index!

[–]illustrious_gubbins 301ポイント302ポイント  (78子コメント)

Does anybody.....not care?

[–]nedos 203ポイント204ポイント  (39子コメント)

It's so overly dramatic. It's like people don't know how much shit goes down behind the scenes of pretty much every website.

[–]Sionn3039 119ポイント120ポイント  (32子コメント)

Yeah I'm having a really hard time giving a fuck. I'm sure Victoria was great, and yes, they shouldn't be shutting down subreddits, but this just seems so overblown. Happens a lot here, a bunch of outrage and drama, people talking of alternatives, and then a month later we're all still here.

[–]GoldenChrysus 72ポイント73ポイント  (31子コメント)

Especially since no one knows why Victoria was let go (presumably fired?). She could have done something horrible for all we know, so the execs at reddit are going to remove that employee immediately, not pussyfoot around and be like, "welllll...we have to let these subs know and we need to keep you around for an unknown number of days." Again, I know people like Victoria, but people do fuck up from time to time, and sometimes those fuck ups lead to terminations no matter how good the employee is. I imagine that is the case here given people usually aren't suddenly let go from important roles. And if she was fired for something she did, it's kind of absurd that the large subs are angry that "they didn't get enough warning." How do you warn someone in advance that one of your key employees is going to make a mistake that jeopardizes her employment? Especially since reddit mods aren't going to be informed of corporate employment decisions before the rest of the company, especially the employee herself, so mods should expect to be the last to know.

[–]RopeADoper 24ポイント25ポイント  (13子コメント)

As others have said, this isn't all about Victoria being fired. Her being fired impacted the community, yes, but she was just the tip of the last straw to a whole team of volunteer moderators who want more tools to help the moderate and the other site admins aren't doing shit to help.

[–]papermarioguy02 32ポイント33ポイント  (2子コメント)

I really don't think reddit's going anywhere either. But people apparently need to be angry about something.

[–]Gravelord-_Nito 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

What's worse is that they're all up in arms about this with less than half of the story. It's really frustrating, because they all just go back to blaming Pao for everything in an event she may or may not have even had anything to do with. Incredibly immature if you ask me.

[–]potatoesarenotcool 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was forced to find an alternative. Because reddit is clogged with Ellen and Victoria drama. It was funny this morning for 20 minutes.

[–]MileHighMurphy 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

The only reason Id google for an alternative is because I'm tired of reading everyone crying over something I seriously could not give a shit about. r/pics is ridiculous with 100000 pics of her.

[–]hakkzpets 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not that Victoria did a bad job or anything, but IAMA was one of the worst subs out there. 99% promotional stuff from people who couldn't give two rats ass about the questions asked. I have no idea why people visit that shithole.

[–]Mar-SE 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right? I'm mostly here for the smaller subreddits.

[–]noneofthismatters999 42ポイント43ポイント  (8子コメント)

I care, just not in the way everyone else seems to care. I've deleted my regular account and I'm going to get out of here for a while.

Not because of reddit admins, not because of Ellen Pao or any other shit I don't care about but because the front page is full of threads whining about or subtly referencing reddit going down the pan. Comments are all about how reddit is shit and dying.

When fatlogic was banned it was bad enough, people going crazy as if the government had burst down their door rather than the closing of a place where users harrassed fat people but this is 100 times worse right now.

The thing about Victoria is sad (though, given that none of us know the whole story who knows) but I'm leaving for a few days because actual redditors are just insufferable.

I come here for pictures of cats, funny videos and cool stories about space. Not to get seriously involved in the utter seriousness that is serious internet.

[–]geoff- 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

Reddit, to me, is a content aggregator and sometimes has good comments. People have gotten way to invested in the culture, like a high school. It's weird. It's just a place for me to zone out. And now all this shit in the last two weeks shows me the Internet for younger people is a vastly different kind of playground. Reddit to them is a social network, a community, and they're so deeply invested in it all. It's strange, foreign to me.

I don't care about the drama. Make sure the site stays up, delete crappy things, and that's about it

[–]kingwah 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every time some new drama pops up it makes me wish people who don't like the direction Reddit is going would just... Go somewhere else? Not saying I think everything the admins do is fine or that I like everything that happens on this site, but when you have a huge group of people who thrive off of this shit and threaten/talk about leaving then never do it starts to get old as fuck.

[–]Bobby_Hilfiger 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Really digging that completely unlabeled y-axis, data is best when it's confusing and uninformative

[–]bushtuckrman 35ポイント36ポイント  (14子コメント)

So this explains why 4chan is even worse than usual today

[–]computerguy0-0 186ポイント187ポイント  (93子コメント)

Voat.co is a decent alternative. They are just getting crushed by traffic right now though.

[–]studmuffffffin 66ポイント67ポイント  (15子コメント)

Can I transfer my karma to voat?

[–]DatSergal 90ポイント91ポイント  (10子コメント)

Sorry, their team of well trained goats chew the karma out of you before transfer

[–]3__14 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

No but you can transfer your subreddit preferences across to www.sagebump.com This a site I knocked up that allows social new site account merging incase anyone is interested.

Also users with over 10,000 points are eligible to be moderators, if they want, so there is that.

[–]someawed 72ポイント73ポイント  (30子コメント)

What's the actual advantage of voat other than being "not reddit"? From what I've seen most subs are just reddit copies like /v/askvoat, /v/videos with the same content but much less active, along with some really dislikeable userbases who emigrated.

[–]austin63 69ポイント70ポイント  (11子コメント)

One of the biggest differences is the transparency of the mod system. There is a public log for any changes made for each sub.

[–]TesticleMeElmo 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I truly don't see the value in that over decent content and decent servers. Yes it's a nice add on for people who care a lot about internet forum politics, but for the casual majority who mostly just cares about having a fun distraction from their day, I think that quality content, community, and server space is all that's really gonna matter in the end. And I don't think voat necessarily has any competitive advantage with that at this time.

[–]0xFFFFFF 46ポイント47ポイント  (10子コメント)

How does Voat differ from related projects?

  • based in Switzerland, no censorship policy as long as content is legal in Switzerland
  • ad revenue sharing model (in development, we will disclose more details soon) where community is rewarded with real money for quality original content
  • deterministically scaling voting quota
  • limited voting (new users need to gain a certain amount of points before they are able to vote without restrictions)
  • limited number of owned/moderated subs per user (10)
  • voat has increased focus on privacy. It enables users to delete their account by automatically overwriting every comment and every submission the user has made with a string "deleted", before proceeding to remove the user account from user credentials database.
  • built-in night mode
  • subverse set system similar to the one used on Google News
  • realtime notifications for user mentions, post and comment replies
  • realtime chat for every subverse
  • markdown toolbar for user friendly text editing
  • automatic expando creation for many popular services
  • anonymized mode: subverse owners can irreversibly convert their subverse to anonymized mode which hides all usernames and disables all voting actions within that subverse
  • responsive design which works great on mobile out of the box
  • user profiles show statistics about user activity, for example, submission distribution and highest-lowest rated submissions and a short biography with avatar

[–]Nurche 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Voat.co is a decent alternative. They are just getting crushed by traffic right now though.

..Which, unfortunately, makes it a pretty terrible alternative.

Voat just doesn't have the server load necessary. Until then, it's just not a viable solution.

[–]wfunction 22ポイント23ポイント  (9子コメント)

I heard all of the controversial subreddits banned by reddit migrated/are migrating there, like /r/fatpeoplehate. This could be a good or a bad thing depending on the person.

[–]knowinganalwink 26ポイント27ポイント  (4子コメント)

The users at voat are the assholes of reddit though. That place is not the solution. Plus all the greasy jailbait stuff unless it has been removed.

[–]CanadianAstronaut 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Apparently Canada is most sick of reddit's shit.

[–]makeswordcloudsagain 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here is a word cloud of all of the comments in this thread: http://i.imgur.com/vlyDfrz.png
source code | contact developer | faq

[–]WhileFalseRepeat 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Reddit is essentially just Usenet 2.0. If people really want a non-corporate, non-profitable, and decentralized platform for communication and community then the answer is Usenet.

[–]Sakarabu 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is anyone else kind of optimistic about all these people "supposedly" leaving?

Call me crazy, but honestly I feel like Reddit might just be a better place without a large chunk of users who care so much about petty internet drama. I can't think of any person IRL or who i've befriended on the internet who could care so much about this kind of thing, so I can only assume the people who do care, aren't people I want to interact with.

[–]letsjumpofftheboat 30ポイント31ポイント  (7子コメント)

A lot of people are trying out Aether.

it's decentralized and anonymized reddit

http://getaether.net

[–]hak8or 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

Content goes away in six months ehhhh. I routinely read old content from askscience.

[–]WowZaPowah 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I use "blank site:Reddit.com" in Google a lot because I find the input and ui is better than forums is have to crawl for tech support. A lot of that stuff is over six months old.

[–]Voxel_Sigma 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well that will happen when 90% of reddit is shut down because of AMAs that only 25% of the userbase cares about.

[–]I_I_I_I_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like Reddit has lost Canada.

[–]veggie151 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone who is upvoting and follow this internal shit storm is responsible for the inevitable damage it causes. Go back to normal, you can't handle the world you'll be left in after you burn this social hovel down.

[–]quienchingados 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's all because of the fucking shadowbans, and the delays to post, and the "you didn't write a fucking question mark so fuck your post" and the "you appear to be doing that to much so please wait until my vagina has no sand" and the "Be free to post anything, except an opinion because having an opinion goes against the reddiquete"

[–]General_GTFO 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd be willing to bet that the majority of the people searching for an alternative aren't trying to escape from the Reddit higher-ups, but rather are trying to get away from all the people that won't just shut the fuck up about it all.

I couldn't give less of a shit about Ellen Pao or the politics of the site. I just want to be amused, and that's proving impossible with having to sift through all the annoying bitching.

[–]Ndonkeykong__Suh 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah redditors will go to another site for 1 hour then come back here.

Everyone acts like they'll leave reddit lol everyone will forget about it in a week

Look at all the people making stupid posts just to reap karma. This website is so hypocritical.

[–]Bloodmeister 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

Even Chairman Mao didn't destroy China this fast.

[–]GotMiracle 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like a few Redditors put together a parody clone of Reddit Derpdit.com. Let's make this a thing guys.

[–]max225 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently Canadians really hate reddit.