Hello everyone!
A few minutes ago we set /r/gaming back
to public since we got a promise from the admin team to better the situation.
For all of those wondering what the issue was I'll quote something u/creesch wrote regarding this yesterday .
This is a non answer and a great example of reddit as a company not being in touch with the actually website anymore.
When a majority of the people that run your site rely on a third party extension something is clearly wrong. I am not making this up btw. At this moment /r/toolbox has around 1,000 (one thousand) people active on the subreddit, this is a result of toolbox installations checking our wiki for messages (the blue ones we send out when we have something to say). In total we have around 6000 active installations between firefox, chrome and opera.
Why are these numbers relevant? Well, /r/defaultmods has somewhere between 800-900 approved submitters (mods without modmail rights don't have access), /r/modtalk around 1700 approved contributors and /r/modclub around 3000 subscribers. This means that the subreddits that attract active and engaged mods (disregarding overlap) don't even account for all our users.
You'd think that I would be proud of those numbers and in a way I am since we worked hard for it. But that last bit is also the problem, we have worked our asses of since someone had to do it.
Another great example of how much reddit cares about their assets is reddit companion. Which at the time of writing has around 154,302 installations, is utterly broken and hasn't been updated since February 21, 2013, the most ridiculous thing? It isn't hard to fix people tried to do the work for reddit since it is open source but they simply have been ignoring those pull requests since 2013. Which is silly since those pull request effectively do fix companion, resulting in a perfectly working version.
And honestly, I get that they might not have resources for a silly extension. But the fact that they keep it around on the chrome store while it is utterly broken and only recently removed it from the reddit footer baffles me. I think I messaged them about them about a year ago, it took them another year to actually update the footer with apps & tools they are (still) working on.
For the complete backstory please refer to this /r/OutOfTheLoop thread
So what changed?
We got a very explicit promise for /u/kn0thing that they have got our message and will work towards better communication and tools. Since we do want to give them the benefit of the doubt and we do actually don't want you, our subscribers, to miss out on this subreddit any longer we decided to go back to public.
Having said that, we will remain critical of reddit moving forward as at this time we only have promises, not results.
Edit: This thread has been locked.
People simply yelling "go private again" are messing up the opportunity to properly discuss this matter in a way we would like to.
The changes promised by /u/kn0thing would affect all subreddits and not just /r/gaming. We chose to go public again partly to encourage further steps forward and partly so that our subscribers could go on enjoying history without reddit politics getting in the way. This was the stance taken by several other of the defaults. To some of you that might seem as weak and we can see your point of view. However simply continuing with a blackout when the other party at least made a first (baby) step towards betterment would be incredibly counter productive.
Which is why we decided to go public again but at the same time put up this sticky where we clearly outline the issues that are still at play. This way you, the community, are made aware of the exact issues why /r/gaming decided to go private. These are also the issues we will keep within our scope when judging progress made in regards to the promises made by /u/kn0thing.
We have engaged in discussion with /u/kn0thing and made it abundantly clear that promises alone will not heal this situation. As we now explained to you guys we also said that we don't want to contribute to a constructive solution, so as a gesture of good will on our side we decided to go public again. He acknowledged those things and during this conversation he also made some more tangible promises.
We have asked him to also address the reddit community about this.
Having said all that, simply yelling at us to go back to private is not constructive. We had a flood of those messages with a few solid ones in between. Unfortunately the flood of low-effort non constructive messages overwhelmed the constructive ones actually seeking discussion. Which is why we locked this thread. At this point we are not even sure if this flood of messages were actually /r/gaming subscribers or a group of people trying to use the blackouts for their own goals. We are looking into that matter.
This is mostly copied from
https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/3byuoe/we_are_no_longer_private/
Here is a list of sub that WERE private and are no longer:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/books
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful
https://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries
https://www.reddit.com/r/gadgets
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming
https://www.reddit.com/r/Music
https://www.reddit.com/r/history
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes
https://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics
https://www.reddit.com/r/science
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned
https://www.reddit.com/r/listentothis
Please remember that any posts violating rule #1 will be removed.
Edit2:
This post is still being cleaned up.
We would just like to note that by down voting everything in this sub and modmailing us calling us all sorts of stuff while also saying to go private is more likely to make us not do so.
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