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[–]AsAChemicalEngineerQuark/Gluon Jets | Hadronic Calorimeters 2622ポイント2623ポイント  (196子コメント)

For those that are out of the loop, here's what going on:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_was_riama_along_with_a_number_of_other_large/

Edit: To keep a little bit of science in every AskScience post, here's a neat color photograph of Pluto and Charon taken by the New Horizons spacecraft:
http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/Multimedia/Science-Photos/image.php?gallery_id=2&image_id=191

[–]DaTaco 719ポイント720ポイント  (113子コメント)

I just wantted to say, I laughed at your extra science link and actually looked at the picture. Well done :)

[–]Reydus 445ポイント446ポイント  (103子コメント)

I really hope to see Victoria back, don't know how, don't know when. It's kinda incredible that LORRI field of view is 0.29 degrees wide.

[–]DaTaco 435ポイント436ポイント  (81子コメント)

She's posted a few times in other subs, I'm sure she will be around but not in her same capacity. Did you know that Saturn's Rings are some of the "flattest" structures known to mankind? They are over 300,000km long but only have a "thickness" of around 10meters!

[–]-KhmerBear- 375ポイント376ポイント  (60子コメント)

Reddit admins dun goofed, unlike the Ralph instrument on New Horizons, which is operating at nominal capacity and will soon send us a dazzling night-side view of Pluto illuminated by "Charon-light", which is what they call moonlight on the dwarf planet.

[–]tokomini 289ポイント290ポイント  (48子コメント)

Apparently those looking for alternatives to reddit have been directed to check out voat.com, which is funny because goats (along with sheep, toads and octopuses) have evolved rectangular pupils as a survival trait to survey their surroundings more accurately, as the narrower the pupil in relation to the horizon, the greater the depth perception is in the peripheral vision of the animal.

[–]fuckusnowman 235ポイント236ポイント  (25子コメント)

This thread is killing me, unlike the lobster which many claim is effectively immortal.

[–]arrowheadt 46ポイント47ポイント  (18子コメント)

What does its immortality have to do with the lobster not killing you?

[–]My_Eleventh_Account 51ポイント52ポイント  (16子コメント)

No he means it isn't killing the lobsters. Cuz they are immortal.

Which, by the way, is a super interesting thing that I'd like to hear more about because I had no idea.

[–]sexquipoop69 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

Negligible senescence. Basically no measurable degeneration while aging, unlike reddit.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negligible_senescence

[–]PostPostModernism 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is my favorite protest I've ever seen on reddit. Though the lobster isn't my favorite long-lived animal. And I say long-lived because we don't know for sure that the lobster is immortal, we just don't know for sure that they die of old age ever. It's an exciting field! On the other hand some species of jellyfish are effectively immortal, able to revert back to an early phase and start their life cycle over! Hopefully reddit can do that too and go back to its old ideals!

[–]lochlainn 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

I love you all and... uh... science is cool!

I'm not good at this.

[–]tinkletwit 83ポイント84ポイント  (8子コメント)

While users look for alternatives to the site and have offered best wishes to Victoria, it's ironic that one way they have shown their support for her is through purchasing gold, with proceeds going directly to Reddit. Gold is more than just a material for jewelry and a medium of exchange. A radioactive isotope of the metal has even been studied for use in cancer treatment by targeting prostate tumors. But buying gold for Victoria just sends a conflicted message.

[–]Doctorjames25 22ポイント23ポイント  (7子コメント)

We all need to come together and set up a No Reddit day. This place relies on Web traffic. One day where you don't come to reddit. You don't post, you don't comment, you don't lurk. Show the admins this place can go down like MySpace.

[–]triksterx 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

I don't suppose you could go into more detail about the evolutionary advantages or disadvantages of different types of pupils, could you?

[–]EnderBoy 66ポイント67ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sure. Sociologically speaking, pupils from more economically affluent areas tend to have an advantage over those from less affluent schools. From an evolutionary standpoint, it is likely they will pass that advantage onto their offspring.

[–]f0urd3gr33s 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

While I nearly injured myself laughing at this comment, I feel compelled to point out that some research has shown those with higher education levels and higher socioeconomic status tend to have fewer offspring so really the opposite of your assertion is true. The "squares" aren't passing their genes on so the advantage seems to lie with having non-square pupils.

[–]Gosteponalegoplease 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

voat.co * not being pedantic its just voat.com isnt a redirect.

[–]LacesOutRayFinkle 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can I get all my "what the hell just happened in reddit" updates from /r/askscience? This is amazing.

[–]5secondstozerotime 29ポイント30ポイント  (8子コメント)

I don't anything about this, other than that the admins have done something wrong, I think. Has anyone heard about the extremely small spectrometer? Are there any decent articles on it?

[–]TheOnlyOtherRedditor 39ポイント40ポイント  (1子コメント)

An inventor was about to do on innovative new technology, like those found throughout many a modern scientific breakthroughs, and even flew out to NY to have the AMA in person with Victoria, only to be left completely hanging and no notification that she had been fired.

[–]5secondstozerotime 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

:/

Well crap. Hopefully he/she gets reimbursed or something.

[–]kangaroooooo 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ten meters? That's actually crazy! Interesting stuff

[–]awildredditappears 14ポイント15ポイント  (7子コメント)

Thank you for signing up for Cat Facts! You will now receive fun daily facts about CATS!

[–]Garizondyly 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

I would love to subscribe to Saturn Facts.

[–]ericwdhs 22ポイント23ポイント  (3子コメント)

You have subscribed to Saturn Cat Facts! Did you know there are no cats on Saturn?

[–]Butchbutter0 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And, like Saturn, Uranus has rings around it too. Most people don't know that. But, they won't come off no matter how hard you scrub. I don't have any cat facts though.

[–]The_Decoy 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

The last two days of her posts were deleted for some reason. :-(

[–]Sir_Whisker_Bottoms 67ポイント68ポイント  (17子コメント)

Victoria won't come back. She'd be a fool to go back to a job where they didn't respect or appreciate her in the first place.

[–]TurnPunchKick 143ポイント144ポイント  (8子コメント)

Much the way Female Angler fish don't acknowledge their former mates which shrivel up and remain with their former partners as parasites.

[–]PointyOintment 49ポイント50ポイント  (5子コメント)

It has been suggested that if reddit doesn't want to pay her to manage AMAs, she should set up a Patreon and we'll pay her to do it. Did you know that wind turbines have a theoretical maximum efficiency of 59.3%?

[–]Neuchacho 34ポイント35ポイント  (1子コメント)

You'd literally be rewarding reddit for poor management. It's as bad as people buying her account gold.

She shouldn't do reddit any favors and neither should we.

[–]frost_knight 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

She may be better off taking risky strategies - giving up some points in expected value to increase the standard deviation. But this assumes that she's an optimal player.

[–]RightWingFanatic 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Personally I would struggle to manage my life with my income stream limited to the kindness of strangers. How close to theoretical maximum efficiency could a home built turbine realistically get?

[–]Camelbus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the name of science! The picture was the hook for me haha

[–]rabbits_for_carrots 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The title of the photo made me first think it was deliberately chosen in reference to the ongoing issues and potential janus nature of drama. Probably reading into that way too much.

[–]iiiitsjess 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

.... why did I always picture Pluto as a blue planet? (I looked at the picture too :) ) maybe in just going crazy and think I thought of it as being blue....oh dear. ... O.o

[–]springsoon 120ポイント121ポイント  (0子コメント)

You did a really good job. You should get fired for it

[–]edcba54321 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

That picture is amazing. Thank you for remembering why we are all here in the first place.

[–]ElegantRedditQuotes 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'd love to see that photo turned into a cardback for playing cards or a tarot deck.

(I feel like it's a little bit of sacrilege to bring up tarot in /r/askscience.)

[–]good_things_come 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, you should be excommunicated. Look how well it worked out for Gallileo all these years later!

[–]ElegantRedditQuotes 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does that mean my reddit posts will end up in the /r/askscience version of the Vatican archives?

I think I can live with that.

[–]laststance 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Was it ever stated why she was fired? What if the firing was entirely reasonable. What if they're not releasing the reason due to labor laws or what happened to the last CEO? I think the last CEO openly disclosed why a former employee was fired during his AMA and in turn the employees voted him out.

[–]AsAChemicalEngineerQuark/Gluon Jets | Hadronic Calorimeters 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was it ever stated why she was fired?

No, and they probably shouldn't divulge employee information like that. However, I'm having a hard time imaging what that reason must be, she apparently doesn't even know either.

I think the last CEO openly disclosed

Yeah, that was Yishan's doing here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/2igkke/reddit_ceo_calls_out_former_reddit_employee_as_to/cl20t99

employees voted him out

No, he left due to personal reasons and cited stress. He left on his own accord.

[–]ornothumper 58ポイント59ポイント  (30子コメント)

If you really want to hit the Admins where it hurts, burn your old comments and posts. Reddit Inc owns that content.

I wrote a script to do it. Add the browser extension TamperMonkey for Chrome (or GreaseMonkey for Firefox) and add this open source script.

Then simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top.

[–]spdave 81ポイント82ポイント  (7子コメント)

If you really want to hurt the Admins, withhold the Au. FTFY (and thank you for the links)

[–]PointyOintment 36ポイント37ポイント  (7子コメント)

Reddit Inc owns that content.

Not true. From the User Agreement linked in the footer of every page (emphasis mine):

your content

You retain the rights to your copyrighted content or information that you submit to reddit ("user content") except as described below.

That means the content you submit is still your property. It goes on to say:

By submitting user content to reddit, you grant us a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, unrestricted, worldwide license to reproduce, prepare derivative works, distribute copies, perform, or publicly display your user content in any medium and for any purpose, including commercial purposes, and to authorize others to do so.

That does not transfer ownership of your content to reddit. People have pulled their content from other sites in the past because they thought such language had such an effect. The reality is that every single website that hosts user-created content has (or should have) such language in their agreement, because it would be illegal for them to host their users' content otherwise. That paragraph just says you give permission to reddit to display what you submit on their website (which is what you submit it for, right?) as well as in other media (e.g. the Upvoted podcast).

If you don't believe me, reread the quotes from the agreement.

[–]belindamshort 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

But then so many of us would not have the lovely information that you shared with us. Spiting reddit is one thing, but in the end its the readers who will pay.

[–]Miamime 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

This shit is all around crazy. It feels kind of cool to be in a community of people who are upset and mobile about this situation when I've never met any of you guys.

[–]notrelatedtoamelia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for posting an update! I had no idea.

[–]Tommeee 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

AskaChemicalEngineer, can I ask you anything?

[–]MY_GOOCH_HURTS 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit, I know it sounds kinda stupid, but this is huge!

[–]Woefinder 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

Even without the extra science link, we could call your post related to psychology/Social Sciences.

[–]Robo-Mall-Cop 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

When it comes right down to it, couldn't every comment be related to psychology/social sciences?

[–]MKRune 506ポイント507ポイント  (29子コメント)

Here's to hoping r/funny joins in the solidarity.

[–]michael070 581ポイント582ポイント  (22子コメント)

And then never goes un-private again

[–]Accipiter1138 184ポイント185ポイント  (9子コメント)

/r/funny going private would be pretty funny.

So of course, it will never go private.

[–]Syren__ 54ポイント55ポイント  (6子コメント)

/r/pics just did

[–]KoiyaOkem 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope the mods can finally get the admin's attention and cooperation. Reddit is about its community and content, not revenue and advertisement platforms. I want to feel like reddit is a safe environment to share content and ideas without risk of being banned or censored because it disagrees with popular opinion or political correctness in the eyes of advertisers and revenue. (Sorry about the run-on sentence).

[–]MKRune 43ポイント44ポイント  (2子コメント)

At least something great comes from losing Victoria.

[–]PointyOintment 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

And then we'd have to deal with the people who usually post there posting in the good subreddits.

[–]laniokean 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

That won't happen, because it'd be funny.

[–]NedryOS 329ポイント330ポイント  (10子コメント)

You could always do what /r/listentothis did and disable posting for the time being.

[–]RavenPanther 137ポイント138ポイント  (6子コメント)

I think this is a good way to go for subs not wanting to go dark/private. By disallowing submissions, and keeping a stickied announcement post, the subs can become effectively "private read-only" without disrupting what's already occurred or concealing any information about what's actively going on. I've noticed a lot of the "rising" posts in /r/all have people completely confused because their defaults are now private (which I personally think is the way to go for some defaults to make a statement) but if the more popular subs, that aren't directly tied in with the issue, decide nuke the ability to submit, it seems just as effective.

[–]PM_ME_UR_JUGZ 29ポイント30ポイント  (5子コメント)

Doesn't that mean there will still be page views and clicks or whatever else is measured for ad revenue?

[–]RavenPanther 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

The subreddit is still able to be seen, browsed, and everything. But nobody aside from mods and approved submitters (a list that people must be added to by the mods) will be able to submit new links/selftexts. Basically it's in "read only" mode just like a Google Drive document.

So, if by your question you're thinking the point of going dark/private on defaults is to "hurt" Reddit's profit and traffic, yes, I suppose this would affect that. But this at least lets people who DO still come here know what is going on - which could be even more effective. Spreading information, in my opinion is better (in most cases) than going completely dark.

A good example is the SOPA/PIPA blackout - many websites participated but most had an excerpt about what was going on or linked to informative parts. The mod menu only allows 500 characters to be displayed for the sub (which is what shows up when you get the "This Subreddit is private" message), so that wouldn't be too informative.... unless they linked to the /r/outoftheloop post, which I suppose is effective (though a bit convoluted for people who are already confused and/or new)

[–]Iwasborninafactory_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"hurt" Reddit's profit

That would be tough to do for a site that doesn't make money, but I assume that why the quotes are there.

[–]Brainiac_Outcast 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm personally not a fan of that style. You're still showing a page with ads on it, thus not costing the admins anything, but you're still causing users plenty of grief. If you're going to bone everyday users in protest of admin actions, at least go all the way and make it so your sub can't show ads.

[–]badtz13 150ポイント151ポイント  (44子コメント)

for a good idea of who is shutting down: https://np.reddit.com/live/v6d0vi6c8veb its not just major subs

[–]cbg79 32ポイント33ポイント  (4子コメント)

I've been on reddit for years and never seen this live feature...what exactly is it?

[–]sizlack 31ポイント32ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ironic that the best use of reddit live is to watch reddit die.

[–]ndstumme 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was launched about a year ago. Here's the admin blog post from when it launched.

[–]blaident 72ポイント73ポイント  (9子コメント)

Holy shit. It's insane just watch subs one after another just keep dropping into darkness.

[–]Draaavven 35ポイント36ポイント  (6子コメント)

I know right? This whole mess just keeps getting bigger and bigger by the moment. It's already being posted on news sites.

[–]blaident 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's all just dissolving before our eyes.

[–]springsoon 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

This sucks. I've been on reddit only a year but started really using it daily for the past 4 months. Now this happens

[–]Sven2774 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit there are some big subs going down.

[–]-xenomorph- 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also you can check the status of the top 50 default subreddits here: http://www.randalolson.com/apps/default_subreddit_status.html

[–]nitiger 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/sexypizza will be the most missed.

[–]Pact_Retard 22ポイント23ポイント  (24子コメント)

Holy shit. Reddit is dying fast.

[–]mcgillycuddy412 70ポイント71ポイント  (21子コメント)

Dying? We're just flexing our muscles. This site doesn't exist without its users, and I can see this as only temporary.

[–]randomaccount1451435 31ポイント32ポイント  (7子コメント)

This will blow over in a couple of days when everyone forgets about it amongst the pictures of cats and the like. Reddit is a fickle beast.

[–]hedgefundaspirations 31ポイント32ポイント  (4子コメント)

Not a chance. FPH filling the front page with FPH pics would blow over. This is so so so much larger than that. This isn't even about Victoria anymore, it's about the asinine lack of resources and respect the admins have given to the people who have built the communities on this site.

This has between brewing for a long time now. This is a totally unprecedented move and it's not going to go away without significant changes.

[–]ItsStillNagy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you think FPH was a trial run of sorts? Regardless, I can't seem to make sense of it. If it's a for-profit move, what good does it do to piss off the majority of the users? I only reddit on mobile and I'll probably be deleting the app.

[–]Pact_Retard 12ポイント13ポイント  (11子コメント)

I feel like reddit won't recover unless it changes hands in terms of leadership.

[–]1IsNotTooHappy 19ポイント20ポイント  (8子コメント)

Oh yea? Where ya gonna go? The Chive?

[–]RightWingFanatic 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I dunno man, remember when slashdot was mucking people around with the whole beta thing, and how everyone said the same thing - that there was nowhere else to go? Well, there was /r/askscience and /r/science and /r/engineeringporn and so on, and now I (for one) don't go to slashdot anymore... reddit could easily be the same.

[–]awildredditappears 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Immune system response, this is how Reddit removes pathogens so it can recover

[–]TheAddiction2 713ポイント714ポイント  (90子コメント)

I personally would've preferred closure, but it's your guys' sub and I can see the reasons why you'd leave it as is.

[–]broccolifucker 394ポイント395ポイント  (51子コメント)

Yeah, should really just go private.

[–]bathroom_break 190ポイント191ポイント  (42子コメント)

A few subs should stay open to explain what's going on. /u/MockDeath and the mod team of /r/askscience, if they want to stay open on its face, should sticky this post to their front page then block all new posts to the sub. So in effect would make it sorta shutdown, but leave something on the front page for people to know why.

I'm a mod of /r/lazycats and we've shutdown for now like many others, but know some need to tell everyone else what's going on. We just hope they do it correctly (not fully active).

[–]pokemanz43 148ポイント149ポイント  (28子コメント)

I want to see every single default closed. The admins have gone too far.

[–]zThief 57ポイント58ポイント  (14子コメント)

/r/pics went down...for an hour

[–]pokemanz43 22ポイント23ポイント  (5子コメント)

They're submission restricted "for a little while." Whatever that means.

[–]Future_Daydreamer 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

They are currently restricting any new submissions though

[–]zThief 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Going private causes a bigger impact than restricting submissions.

[–]vinng86 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

Maybe, but /r/askscience prides itself on being a place where anyone can come in and ask a question, and be replied to by experts in the field no matter how stupid or insignificant the question might be.

Locking out /r/askscience would go completely against this subreddit's core ideals.

[–]EdibleBatteriesHeterogeneous Catalysis 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

I personally think this comment sends a fool-hearty message. You are forgetting that /r/askscience belongs to Reddit, regardless of what our core ideals are. If we truly wanted this place to be the "one-stop answer shop" for science questions that operated under our ideals, we would create our own independent website. This discussion needs to revolve around how we want to participate in the community we belong in, not around how our ideals are greater than those of the other subreddits around us.

[–]PurpleMonkeyElephant 28ポイント29ポイント  (7子コメント)

Everybody knows what's going on. 3 of the top posts on everyone's front page are about it. Go private guys. I'm sure all of us here in /r/science can forgo the science news for a day or two for someone who has done SOOOOO much for us.

[–]Mehknic 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't know anything was going on until I saw this post. /r/askscience is my only default, and my most active subs aren't closed.

[–]BCSteve 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually didn't see it at all until this post, it's the only one on my front page mentioning it. I just thought content was really crappy today...

[–]jareds 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

AskScience arguably has the most staid, professional moderation of any big sub. The fact that they joined in the complaints at all speaks volumes to me.

[–]Stuck_In_the_Matrix 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would have preferred private, too. Reddit will eventually die as a site unless we can jolt the investors into shuffling out bad management.

[–]MockDeath[S] 34ポイント35ポイント  (27子コメント)

There is no way I will be able to keep up with my inbox. I knew this would blow up but I am still a bit surprised. quick summary of it is..

We want an ability to also have discussion. All going private does is remove a users ability to talk. It is just the admins and mods if it is private. While the message is strong it removes the bulk of reddits ability to talk.

[–]broccolifucker 65ポイント66ポイント  (8子コメント)

Is /r/AskScience really the one place you figure that the community should gather to discuss this specific situation?

[–]dwmfives 38ポイント39ポイント  (2子コメント)

Exactly why I personally think they should go private. Let the outoftheloop thread be the center of discussion, and include the link to that post in the private description.

[–]Baelorn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can't talk about anything in /r/outoftheloop, though. It's full of jokes, conspiracy nuts, and people who actually think Voat is an alternative to reddit.

[–]YourWizardPenPal 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe that's locked; it's not going to be the center of discussion.

[–]StakeMeOutTonight 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

While I appreciate that you want to provide a place for discussion, I strongly disagree that "all" going private does it remove a user's ability to talk.

I would say, though, that all maintaining business as usual will do is allow reddit to maintain business as usual. I'm not so sure that's a great thing at the moment.

[–]apocalyptustree 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

But that's what r/outoftheloop is for. Go private!

[–]TheAddiction2 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's the hard part about it. Sending a message versus allowing discussion. Like I said, I can see both sides of the argument, just personally think that shutting down would do more in terms of impact.

[–]loldilawl 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Going private also deprives reddit of any advertising revenue from this particular subreddit for a few hours and sends a much stronger message IMO.

There are other places the users can go to talk about it, which you could link to in your message about why its private.

However, its your sub, do what you want and thank you for maintaining a beautiful, serious, and rigorously informative (mostly, seems impossible to do on a site this huge) forum. Seriously. Thank you for this sub.

[–]maladjusted_peccary 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

What makes you say that?

[–]TheAddiction2 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because /r/askscience is a big sub. If people see how desolate the front page is, they may be willing to go look as to why that's the case.

[–]polybenith 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly, posting a support message is nice but it isn't showing 'solidarity'. The other subs are showing solidarity through consistent and unified action.

[–]_vargas_ 40ポイント41ポイント  (4子コメント)

As a mod of /r/shittyaskscience, I'm in a bit of a pickle. We expected /r/askscience to go dark. With that being the case, we'd of course stay open. But now this subreddit has chosen to stay open. Naturally, I have to shut down /r/shittyaskscience. I don't even know how to make a subreddit private, though. Do I like, just delete the entire thing?

[–]Crysawn 197ポイント198ポイント  (37子コメント)

I'd go private, the admins won't read this post, and going private will prove a point to the admins (hopefully) that revenue is not the heart of this site.

[–]ANukeGuy 22ポイント23ポイント  (11子コメント)

I don't think the problem is with the admins but with the corporate management. The admins are just the public face. Being angry with the admins is like being angry with the call center employee when AT&T screwed you.

[–]disrdat 134ポイント135ポイント  (18子コメント)

This is not normal reddit drama. Hundreds of subs are going dark. The problems they perceive have reached a boiling point and they have said enough, time for something to give. If you, as a whole, honestly agree with the reasons they are going private then you should either go private as well or just stay out of it completely. This is a movement based on action, they aren't looking for cheerleaders.

[–]Scroobius 22ポイント23ポイント  (17子コメント)

What if she was fired for a good reason? genuinely curious. If she was fired for good reason isn't it reasonable that it be kept private?

[–]Sixsome 26ポイント27ポイント  (4子コメント)

At the moment, nobody really knows why she was fired, but this picture has surfaced which has some possible answers:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI9iYW7VAAAzzJN.png

[–]Sylentwolf8 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Assuming this is the true reason, that does certainly seem like an unfair reason to fire someone. With professional disagreements you shouldn't be firing the opposing party simply for having a unique opinion. If you're the boss, command. I imagine if the person in charge simply told Victoria (for example) "make video AMAs happen, I respect your disagreement, but we would like to try it out" she may not have been happy, but would've complied or quit.

The way that Marc describes it makes it appear that it was more of a "we don't like you challenging our ideas so you're gone" kind of deal.

[–]Pluckerpluck 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

What if she was fired for a good reason? genuinely curious. If she was fired for good reason isn't it reasonable that it be kept private?

It doesn't matter in the slightest. The subs don't care the she was fired (well they do, but it's not the reason for the protest). The care that she was made to practically vanish with no warning.

People were planning to host AMAs today only to find, with no warning, Victoria was no longer with reddit. Most subs found out from other subs. I believe the first subs found out from Victoria herself (not even from Reddit).

For many, Victoria was the only point of communication between the subreddit and the AMAer. So now they lost all communication because she was forced to cut all ties.

Reddit ignored questions involving clarification and what was to happen. How is /r/iama to continue when they practically relied on her? Sure she may be gone for a good reason, but to not plan for a replacement? To not explain the situation to the people that make your site what it is?

That's what people are against. They're against the lack of communication. So it doesn't matter why Victoria was fired. Not one bit.

[–]FootGoesInMouth 154ポイント155ポイント  (55子コメント)

As one of the people who requested that the matter of "going dark" be considered, I am disappointed in your collective decision. I think this is passing up a very rare opportunity to express your displeasure at the problems you mentioned in your original text. A temporary change of status would not greatly effect the user base, and it would draw attention to the issues at hand. The chance of that awareness actually changing things may (or may not) be small, but it is decidedly a non-zero possibility.

I hope you reconsider your decision, and -- to any other users who may be reading this -- I hope other like-minded users make their feelings known to the mods.

Despite my strong disagreement with your collective decision, I still appreciate the energy the moderation team put in to make this sub great.

Thank you for your time.

[–]nallenSynthetic Organic/Organometallic Chemistry 114ポイント115ポイント  (29子コメント)

As a mod of /r/science, and arguably one of the instigators of all of this, I'm ok with AskScience staying up, it's the tradition of AskScience not to get involved in the politics of reddit.

[–]michael1026 26ポイント27ポイント  (9子コメント)

it's the tradition of AskScience not to get involved in the politics of reddit.

Thank you! That's how it should be.

[–]hatestheinternet 28ポイント29ポイント  (5子コメント)

If you don't get involved, you can't complain when everything goes to shit.

You're a part of Reddit, you're involved by default whether you like it or not, you're just deciding not to make a stand.

[–]MockDeath[S,M] 33ポイント34ポイント  (18子コメント)

One of our goals is to also allow a place where discussion can happen. If every subreddit goes dark then the words of users is gone. Only the voice of moderators is needed to make a subreddit private.

[–]heiferly 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

No offense intended, but the discussion of this is already in full swing in a small handful of other spaces. I don't really understand why this sub needs to stay open at this time; I agree that going private would be the optimal response for /r/askscience. It seems as though there is plenty of room for discussion between /r/SubredditDrama, /r/CasualConversation, /r/OutOfTheLoop, and the live feed (don't know the link to reddit live sorry).

[–]BurntJoint 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

Im curious as to why you think people would discuss this matter here in /r/askscience when there are more appropriate places like /r/news and /r/technology to do it?

Given this subreddit's rules, i dont even see how any portion of it could be considered "on-topic" enough to allow it, especially considering another mods comment of not wanting to "get involved in the politics of reddit".

[–]FUCK_YOUR_SHITPOST 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think the voice of the subscribers have spoken here.

[–]multiple_bear 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

Could you describe to me why you believe going private is the optimal manner in which negotiate and resolve this conflict? I'm very interested in what you have to say.

[–]shallnotreply 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

It hits them in their wallet.

Talking has been tried before, without success.

[–]rayfound 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

It hurts traffic.

[–]ZodiacSF1969 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great to see so many subreddits taking action. It's about time, a significant proportion of users have seemed unhappy with the administration of the site for quite a while now.

[–]EvilTony 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't know much about the backstory of all this but since askscience is supposed to be a sensible rational sub is it possible that she was let go for some kind of serious ethical breach of conduct? I have no reason to believe this is the case and am not defending her... I'm only saying that if reddit had a legitimate reason for letting her go then what's been going on tonight is a profoundly unjust response.

Perhaps reddit should have said something in their defense by now...

But I like reddit and it would be a shame if they suffered serious damage to their reputation and fanbase if it wasn't warranted.

On the other hand if Victoria was fired because she didn't conform to some corporate vision of what reddit should be... well let'em fry.

[–]tanzmeister 70ポイント71ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just do it. It says more.

[–]oldworldavacado 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

As if a post about "solidarity" says much of anything.

[–]gutter_rat_serenade 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mods are finally realizing that they're the slaves building the pyramids...

[–]LAKingsDave 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is the right thing to do if you love science.

Science is about teaching and learning, and to shut down this sub would deny people the ability to learn and teach others.

[–]thedurka 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

This sub is also a shining pillar of what Reddit should (and) offer to the world. Right now this and /r/askhistorians are the only two major subs showing up for me, and it's actually better than before.

[–]RemusShepherd 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

How do I, a faceless Reddit user, show solidarity with the moderators? The /r/science subreddit was one of my favorites and I'm going to miss it.

[–]mayberrymachiavelli 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unsubscribe from all remaining default subs. Affect the numbers. Show that you're willing to walk away. (It'll all still be there if you really need your fix.)

[–]Palidane7 29ポイント30ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey, actions speak louder than words here. I think we should take it down, show some solidarity with the other subs.

[–]Calmdownplease 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agree, put us money where ya mouth is...

[–]thefinalfall 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I knew I should have went to bed early. I JUST looked at the list of closed subs and was pumped that this one was up. I read a few posts every night before bed. This is really messing my routine! Guess I'll head over to xkcd now.

[–]mcb89 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sticky this post please.

[–]dragonfliesloveme 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is this a temporary change?

[–]mahatma_arium_nine 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Too soft. Why can't people get really angry? Too much fluoride in Your water?

[–]BooYeah0484 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why is this such a big deal? So someone lost their job. Its not like the position is gone. Someone new will get hired and take over for her. Why are the mods ruining everyone else's experience simply because someone got fired? Seems pretty childish and unable to accept its the real world and people get fired, laid off, quit etc.

[–]tonybateman 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doing something like this based on info you don't even have about business that's none of ours? How un-sciency of you.

[–]CasualBadass 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I support the decision. This sub is about science, not politics. It is also very early in the debacle.

[–]CoopertheFluffy 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just wanted to stop by and say I appreciate your use of tabs.

[–]michael1026 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The moderators here have always done what's right. Thanks, guys.

[–]goldcakes 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Going private is the only recourse we have for expressing our dissatisfaction. Reddit admins unfortunately do not realize that we're the ones who power reddit.


Signature: I stand in solidarity with /u/chooter and the hard-working volunteers that keep reddit running. Reddit, Inc: Please realize that reddit will not exist without them or us. For an alternative to reddit, check out Voat.co.

[–]WiseManZero 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

As long as the moderation team put it to a vote, I'm okay with it.

[–]91914 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've never seen a 97% upvoted post before, how about that?

[–]CalvinDehaze 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for keeping your sub open. /r/askscience is a beaming example of why people like me love reddit. Not just because you have real scientists answering questions, but the idea that people of all walks of life can chime in and give you real insight on a topic or discussion.

I've learned so much from the people on Reddit that I've been influenced to pay it forward my own personal stories of child abuse, producing porn, how I built my Lego room, and working in visual effects for 13 years. And there are many people like me on this site that we all could learn from.

[–]ColeSloth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe Voat.co will get their servers upgraded pretty soon.

[–]cantpissoffmods 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So your telling me to go to voat? Understood.

[–]trbt555 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit hanging out its dirty laundry in public.

[–]alpha_weasel 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for ruinning my typical reddit filled night....guess i need a life now......