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[–]boxsalesman 517ポイント518ポイント  (60子コメント)

This feels like some PR reply, I expected more from PCmasterrace.

[–]Senor_Taco29Senor_Taco28 129ポイント130ポイント  (0子コメント)

Especially how shitty the admins have been to this sub before

Edit: just remember shit like this also helped stop SOPA and PIPA

[–]Jeccems 35ポイント36ポイント  (0子コメント)

The admins have been shit to every subreddit out there. This is unacceptable.

[–]bandit145GTX 750TI FTW | FX 8350 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree we should be going dark, we can all live without PCMR for awhile if it means supporting the other subreddits.

Edit: You know what? I'm out... see you brothers somewhere else. If the mods don't go private I urge you all to unsub in protest and stop coming to pcmr.

[–]Pinkie31459Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz- 6 GB RAM- GeForce GTX 480 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm keeping an eye to see if the mods backpedal. There seems to be a lot of backlash right now and I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

[–]Frozen4322FX8320@4.4GHz, R9 290x, 8GB GSkill RAM @2133MHZ 150ポイント151ポイント  (51子コメント)

Yeah, it's just a blanket statement saying "We don't support it but we're going to do fuck all to help"

[–]ringingbells 79ポイント80ポイント  (5子コメント)

"Business?" I go to a business to work. I come here to post sweet pictures of Gabe and my rig. Take the sub down. It's the right thing to do.

[–]AdvocateForLucifer 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

It literally doesn't matter. It's not like PCMR is the catalyst for the Admins taking action. The only reason to black out at this point is because the drama is fucking hilarious.

[–]ringingbells 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I "privatized" my pathetic little subreddit and it was actually gaining subscribers from this whole debacle. People were lost without the defaults. If it doesn't matter...why the heck would I do that?

[–]AdvocateForLucifer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because it's fun to be a part of something.

[–]fluxwaveSpecs/Imgur Here 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm having way too much fun following this event

[–]terroran 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly! This is very unfortunate.

[–]TizakiI like GOG[M] -160ポイント-159ポイント  (43子コメント)

How is denying users access to the sub going to help? Wouldn't it be better to leave the ability to discuss things in place for them rather than lock it to the "private" page where they're all disconnected from one another?

edit: I kinda feel like I'm the one school in the state that chose to be open during a blizzard when everyone wanted a snow day. :(

[–]686tSup bitches 76ポイント77ポイント  (0子コメント)

Users of pcmr don't only use pcmr, I'm sure all of us have used /r/iama (Gabe Newell?) and now we have to support them in their time of need. If we had a serious incident like this how would the mod team feel if they had their workload doubled or even tripled.

[–]Eldan158 77ポイント78ポイント  (1子コメント)

How can we discuss it if you delete all the posts related to it?

[–]Twin_Turbo 100ポイント101ポイント  (3子コメント)

Less reddit activity = less ad space. That means less money and it helps with forcing reddit to make changes if they want their users to be pleased again, if they don't they lose ad money.

[–]alfredmuffinalfredmuffin 38ポイント39ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly.

There are other places where we can stay updated. Taking the sub down is a necessary sacrifice.

[–]spicyboldbbqSteam ID Here -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's one way to look at it but think of the downside. More subs going private will just drive more and more of the community away. Sure this might get the attention of the admins but whats the point if you have no community? With all the censorship issues going on this year that left a bad taste in everyones mouth I think we're just helping burn this place down. There are already a lot of pissed off people here hanging by a thread, we can't afford to piss them off any more. Just my opinion when I look at the situation based on recent events.

[–]Twin_Turbo 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another will take it's place very quickly like reddit took digg's, have no fear. Sometimes you have to burn it down if they refuse to change.

[–]CFGXSteam ID Here 35ポイント36ポイント  (5子コメント)

We're the users in question, literally telling you to turn the lights out.

[–]LiftedKilti5-4790K | GTX 970 | 16gb DDR3 | Z87 Pro |2x 256GB SSD, 3x3TB 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://media.giphy.com/media/9CvWZTFXyNBio/giphy.gif

[–]TizakiI like GOG 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

I get you. I didn't anticipate that, to be honest. I was entirely thinking that the users would want the sub to stay open.

[–]locut 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please reconsider, in light of the overwhelming response from the community in this thread. It's not too late to listen to what seems to be the consensus from your users.

[–]CatLover99 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not going private, after all the requests from the users of this sub, is just like the Admins not listening/communicating with the mods, like you guys, that make this site what it is.

I've been here nearly four years, if one or two days of black out is what is needed I am more than willing to participate.

[–]OneBurnerToBurnemAll 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would post a relevant Bugs Bunny clip, but the only thing I could find is a 4 hour compilation of "the best of WB" so blaaagh.

[–]Frozen4322FX8320@4.4GHz, R9 290x, 8GB GSkill RAM @2133MHZ 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most subreddits are linking their "private" pages to the many megathreads that are outlining the issues that this protest is about. Reddit is placing more resources on censorship and getting rid of things that are bad for 'revenue' rather then actually making modtools and things that help people run their subreddits.

[–]geekdadgeekdad - 8320@4.4GHz / MSI R9 290 / 32G 1600 / Giga 990X-UD3v4 71ポイント72ポイント  (13子コメント)

Because the power we have is the content we create, cutting off access to the content is literally the only power we have.

[–]TizakiI like GOG 34ポイント35ポイント  (5子コメント)

Powerful point.

[–]Modified_Hackware 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

And an extremely obvious one. You guys made the wrong decision here and I would be saying the same to anyone else thinking about shirking if it was this Sub that needed help instead.

[–]Omegastar19 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please make r/pcmasterrace private. Don't leave the other subs hanging. There is a chance here to make a change to Reddit. If enough subs go dark, they will have to do something. Please show solidarity. I think the other comments in this thread show the general feeling, and you shouldn't ignore that.

[–]xoxid 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

By letting this SUB open, you are directly supporting Reddit action by acting like if "nothing happened".

By setting this SUB private, you are helping the communuty by denying money to Reddit.

What do you think Reddit investors will say when they notice even an 2% drop in their revenue?

[–]geekdadgeekdad - 8320@4.4GHz / MSI R9 290 / 32G 1600 / Giga 990X-UD3v4 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you

[–]lepandasfahk valve 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please make the sub private.

[–]Dora_De_Destroyai5 4690 - GTX 970 - id/Zombie_Garcia/ 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Because posting our glorious rigs is surely going to bring victoria back. Seriously guys, think of the bigger picture here.

[–]geekdadgeekdad - 8320@4.4GHz / MSI R9 290 / 32G 1600 / Giga 990X-UD3v4 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

No but the eyeball attention that advertising cares about does matter.

[–]OneBurnerToBurnemAll 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope she gets hired by Voat or even better yet, finds 8chan, to spite everyone here!

[–]Michelanvalo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Victoria being dismissed is not the issue. The issue is dismissing her with no clear plan for delegation of her duties or informing the mods of the major subs who relied on her work. /r/IAMA mods found she was gone when an AMA guest contacted them asking why Victoria hadn't reached out to him yet. How is that fair to the mods who work their ass off for 0 pay?

[–]Hawful 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm saving this, but only because it is great content, which is what we should be cutting off?

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[–]SwisschaletDipSaucei5 4690K-MSI G5-EVGA 970-16GB 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd give gold for this, but I can't right now for obvious reasons.

[–]geekdadgeekdad - 8320@4.4GHz / MSI R9 290 / 32G 1600 / Giga 990X-UD3v4 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks.. give it to eff.org or doctors without borders instead ;D

[–]Dora_De_Destroyai5 4690 - GTX 970 - id/Zombie_Garcia/ 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because there are other places such as /r/OutOfTheLoop to discuss. Subreddits are going dark as a protest, and we should to so every one of the 400,000 subscribers are aware of whats going on and why its a huge deal.

[–]hall5714 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah you probably wouldn't feel like you were open during if a blizzard, if you hadn't posted some crap one would expect from a law firm running PR for some crappy company.

How disappointing.

[–]FearTheCalmi5 2500k@ 4.7ghz || 970 2-way SLI 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

To raise awareness. I would hope we as a community are able to cope without using reddit for a little while. If no one does something reddit is going to die anyway. Things haven't been so good on the admin side lately. Have some balls, man.

[–]Senor_Taco29Senor_Taco28 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I do like your edit. Just remember schools can close during the day if things get worse...

[–]FreddyFuego 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you think the admins asked asked themselves that question when they banned this sub? You know in case you've forgotten, the admins have banned the entire sub because of a few assholes.

[–]Cameron653 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

By denying users access to the sub, you deny reddit their ad views. Less ad views = less money. Less money = more likely to revert changes to gain more money.

[–]ringingbells 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

We'll come back tomorrow, man. Don't worry.

[–]MrCaptainCody 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think its the denying access that has people upset. Its the fact that by not doing anything your basically saying I don't care if the admins do a terrible job of running Reddit. I understand where your coming from though since most of these subs going private really have nothing to do with /r/pcmasterrace.

[–]JohnnyCache 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's time to send a direct message, site-wide. The users will no longer support reddit.com if it continues down this path.

[–]Michelanvalo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

By shutting down the sub, you hurt the traffic to Reddit as a whole. Clearly from this post, the members of the sub would understand. The admins aren't listening to you guys, I'm hearing it from every single sub that the admins are aloof and non-communicative. Shutting down the major subs hurts the traffic and the income of the site. If hurting their financials gets them to listen to you guys, do it.

You don't get paid to run these subs, they do. But you do most of the hard work.

[–]OneBurnerToBurnemAll 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's probably something else you could do to bring about solidarity...Any way to manually disable reddit ads in the coding? Or to remove the ability wholly to buy/give gold to curtail impulsive celebrators?

Feels like a group of PC folk should be able to figure something out that's better than simply shutting the doors.

[–]n-simplexArch Linux 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Keeping things running as usual normalizes the situation. It says "ok, maybe that was bad, but let's move on, shall we?". On the other hand, making a subreddit private (or prevent new submissions) in protest raises awareness to the fact that this is something affecting us all.

Yes, making a subreddit private is inconvenient to the average user which probably doesn't even know what's going on. But that's kind of the point of a 'strike', isn't it? It is precisely that kind of pressure coming from unsatisfied regular users which pushes towards structural changes, and forces the administration to take matters seriously.

[–]borrachio 46ポイント47ポイント  (0子コメント)

This response feels a lot like the "safe space" bs that Pao has been spouting for the past while

[–]NorthStarZerohttp://imgur.com/a/TL1s3 73ポイント74ポイント  (0子コメント)

Indeed. For a sub that prides itself on doing the right thing, and for the right reasons, choosing to abstain feels like cowardice.

And deleting discussion about a major event like this and citing "Rule 6" as justification is similar.

I've lost a great deal of respect for the mods here.

  • Edit: Unsubbed.

[–]7x7x7Titan X | 3790k 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same, expected better considering the shit this sub went through last year.

[–]yoplate 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

you guys are punks pull this subreddit down pansies...goddam