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[–]dimsumx 162ポイント163ポイント  (23子コメント)

/r/OutoftheLoop has a lot of info.

[–]Error774 60ポイント61ポイント  (12子コメント)

Solid link man.

Call me paranoid but it still feels like there are unsavoury deeds going on out of sight on those locked subreddits.

Do we have any way of easily finding out when these subreddits go public again if there has been any mass culling of posts or users?

[–]Magyman 38ポイント39ポイント  (4子コメント)

You could just ask the mods. Karmanaut and one of the mods from r/science started the private subs thing in the out of the loop about Victoria's firing. They're protesting the admins decision by basically shutting down parts of reddit.

[–]Gunblazer42 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

It doesn't help that /r/science et al also host AMAs, and Victoria helped confirm/support them as well. So like AMA, they're up a creek without a paddle, just not as much as /r/iama.

[–]darksage69 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

I doubt it's unsavoury, but I can understand the trepidation after all of this time. I'm sure a number of subs suddenly are having problems, and quite a few are also probably pissed off that this happened as well. ESPECIALLY since there's no real answer there, no word or knowledge.

[–]rgamesgotmebanned 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're paranoid.

I think the linked thread explains all this rather well. Of course you're never going to get the full story but assuming secrecy and conspiarcies here seems relatively baseless.

What we actually might get to see is the admins demodding all of these subs and replacing the mods with whomever suits them best.

[–]darksage69 371ポイント372ポイント  (95子コメント)

Ho-Ly fucking crap.

Looking from some of the comments I'm seeing, including one that said that Victoria was willing to do the AMA's scheduled today regardless of pay, I'm having trouble swallowing even a remote chance that it was her quitting.

This was sudden, because no one 'has a team in place' that doesn't involve keeping the current schedule going on without this being sudden and unexpected. The burning question is, why? I'm not really a big AMA reader (I never really got caught up in that whole 'celebrity' stuff, so I tend to sit out of the loop a lot there), but this just reeks of something fishy.

[–]DeadGamerWalking 91ポイント92ポイント  (83子コメント)

Jesse Jackson is the answer

[–]darksage69 127ポイント128ポイント  (64子コメント)

That doesn't make much sense though, that's not something she can control. I'm a fan of taking personal responsibility for shit but I draw the line at predicting the reactions of other people and taking responsibility for them saying shit to a person, and said person taking the fucking bait.

I've been in charge of people before, you just don't do that shit if you want a productive work environment, especially in someplace like Reddit or anywhere that has a large public presence. This is like firing the greeter at Walmart for people fighting in front of the place.

[–]Northwait 130ポイント131ポイント  (23子コメント)

If someone put a gun to my head and demanded wild conjecture:

People calling Jackson out for being a bigot confused and angered the guy, yelled at chooter who said she couldn't do anything about that, and he called up Chairman Pao and threatened to bring in the ProtestPros unless she was fired and a donation was made to his foundation.

[–]enjoycarrots 41ポイント42ポイント  (2子コメント)

This sequence of events occurred to me as well. If it was the Jackson AMA that caused this, then it seems plausible to me that Jesse Jackson was insulted and offended by how the AMA went, and Victoria was blamed.

But that's just speculation, really. I'm very curious what actually happened.

[–]Bookkeep 35ポイント36ポイント  (2子コメント)

No doubt he threatened to call Reddit Racist.

Could you imagine how funny that would have been.

[–]Eustace_Savage 31ポイント32ポイント  (3子コメント)

and he called up Chairman Pao and threatened to bring in the ProtestPros unless she was fired and a donation was made to his foundation.

Bingo bango.

[–]darksage69 32ポイント33ポイント  (10子コメント)

Who does the narrative side with for that? Does a black man trump a woman?

It makes sense, but I'm also sure that someone making that kind of threat would want a public firing, not something hidden like this.

[–]Owyn_Merrilin 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

If he were a nobody, it could go either way. But this is Jesse Jackson we're talking about. He has access to actual mobs of angry people, and Reddit is run by the kind of people who think twitter mobs are terrifying.

Of course, I'd like to think there's something else at play here. I don't know what, but this is dumb even for reddit.

[–]SodlidDesu 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I dunno. On my Misogyny Bingo card I can't help but think that being a man invalidates his position since 'cause he's not supposed to be allowed to be offended by anything a powerful wymyn does but maybe his PoC bonus aligned with her PoC trap card and set off a chain reaction. It's always hard to tell how these things will go with Pao.

Maybe she just tried to negotiate for a raise or something a few days ago, you know how bad women are at that.

[–]cunningllinguist 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

kn0thing's "popcorn" response doesn't fit with his company being pressured into firing staff though.

She was basically director of advertising in AMA (best place on reddit to advertise movies books etc to a bunch of nerds with Adblock), at the end of the day, it wouldn't surprise me if there was some "manipulation" going on and someone got fired over it.

[–]HINDBRAIN 101ポイント102ポイント  (17子コメント)

I've been in charge of people before, you just don't do that shit if you want a productive work environment

Wow gee, that sure clashes with their recent demonstrations of excellent leadership!

[–]darksage69 30ポイント31ポイント  (16子コメント)

I had to say what I thought, regardless of how shitty their recent leadership has been, but this sort of thing is a fairly new low.

[–]Eustace_Savage 15ポイント16ポイント  (11子コメント)

You're surprised by this behavior from Pao? Have you been paying attention, at all?? Seriously?

[–]darksage69 23ポイント24ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yes, I am surprised because no matter what way I look at this, they never made the moves that I would expect to take advantage of this. Right now Reddit looks like they've fired a very popular FEMALE employee for no reason, which spits right back into the face of their diversity initiative. At the same time, if this is because of the Jessie Jackson AMA, then their silence has added damage to their 'safe space' since that obviously flies into the face of that too.

Or maybe they are really this dumb, and I'm surprised because I keep trying to think that people aren't as fucking retarded as they repeatedly prove.

[–]porracaralho 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

There is no such thing as 'safe space' along with 'free speech', if speech was harmless, there would be no laws protecting this right.

A basic contradiction that is similar of firing a female well-known in the community while defending that we need more females in tech business.

Pao is pretty consistent, it seems.

[–]darksage69 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, Pao's already said in an interview that Reddit isn't for free speech (or whatever, I'm probably fucking the quote up), so it doesn't matter there.

She's a contradiction and a half, I'd be very surprised if she stays on after the interim period is up, since it doesn't look like people are responding well to her policies.

[–]Eustace_Savage 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or maybe they are really this dumb, and I'm surprised because I keep trying to think that people aren't as fucking retarded as they repeatedly prove.

They really are this dumb: http://puu.sh/iLlgM/55a6266b88.png That's Alexis Ohanian — one of reddit's founders.

[–]FKRMunkiBoi 33ポイント34ポイント  (4子コメント)

That doesn't make much sense though, that's not something she can control.

When management looks for a scapegoat to blame, "making sense" is not a priority. Victoria was very likely made into the scapegoat to appease some corporate/political fury after the Jesse Jackson AMA. Basically, welcome to the world of shitty management.

Reddit is being transformed into a "safe space". However, it's NOT meant to be a "safe space" for us, it's meant to be a safe space for Pao and her corporate interests.

The reddit we knew and loved is dead. What we have left is a mockery wearing reddit's skin.

[–]TalesofAnnis 22ポイント23ポイント  (14子コメント)

That doesn't make much sense though, that's not something she can control. I'm a fan of taking personal responsibility for shit but I draw the line at predicting the reactions of other people and taking responsibility for them saying shit to a person, and said person taking the fucking bait.

This is obviously all speculation and guesswork at this point, so don't take anything as even approaching a fact.

The way that the AMA's she took an active role in tended to work was her reading the questions, putting them to the celebrity (either in person or over the phone) and then typing back their response.

Reading through the Jesse Jackson AMA you'll notice that a lot of his answers don't seem to make any sense... not just in the "I disagree with what he's saying" sense but in the "that's got nothing to do with the question that was asked". One thought has been that the replies were to the wrong questions.

But there may be an alternative answer; if Victoria was reading the questions to Jackson but editing them so that he didn't have to deal with the open hostility (and like or dislike someone doing that I suspect it's a necessary evil for someone who works in communications/PR and wants to keep an AMA going rather than have the celebrity cut it off) and then posting Jackson's answers back then it may explain why there's the disconnect; Jackson was answering only part of the questions asked or, at the very least, answering questions presented to him in a very different tone to the tone they were asked/typed in to begin with.

If that's the case then it does fall on Victoria and considering the negative publicity that he got out of that AMA I can see a situation where his own PR (and more seriously legal) team got in touch with the powers that be at Reddit and complained.

If (and again I stress this is all merely speculation) that is the case I can see why the powers that be would blame her and may want to try to do a misguided damage limitation exercise by getting rid of her; Jackson spinning a "racist reddit staff deliberately made me look like an idiot... and did I mention their even more racist userbase?" tale across the media isn't a good situation for Reddit however untrue it is. I should also note I'm not condoning the action in the slightest even if it is the case; I think a company should show more strength and support to someone who has been a vital (as we now see) and popular staff member even if they did make a mistake. Jackson's bruised ego isn't worth that much.

[–]Eustace_Savage 20ポイント21ポイント  (10子コメント)

If that's the case then it does fall on Victoria

That's an awful lot of responsibility to bestow on someone who probably doesn't even make 6 figures. I'm sorry, but I disagree she deserves to take the fall. That's asinine.

[–]leops1984 23ポイント24ポイント  (3子コメント)

Especially since anyone with half a brain cell would know exactly how a Jesse Jackson IAmA would go. He's not exactly a universally beloved character.

Having a Jesse Jackson IAmA was a dumb idea in and of itself. It was never going to turn out well. But if Reddit HQ was REALLY determined to do one, it couldn't be treated as "just another IAmA".

[–]Magyman 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I highly doubt it. That was going to be a shit show from the start.

[–]HexezWork 954ポイント955ポイント  (144子コメント)

All out rebellion from mods of the biggest subreddits to the Charmain Pao gestapo admin crew for the firing of Victoria.

They tried to make an anonymous forum "corporate friendly" you get what you deserve, you can't fight the streisand effect.

HA! Burn it all down you pro censorship motherfuckers!

[–]BundleBee 279ポイント280ポイント  (64子コメント)

I do find it interesting that they'd want to remove the sole person responsible for calling out agents of people doing amas on their bullshit .

[–]HexezWork 213ポイント214ポイント  (48子コメント)

Like I used the term "corporate friendly" in the last one they want a safe environment for PR firms to pay big bucks to get exposure to those cool internet kids.

Victoria was in the way of the new Reddit so she had to be removed I mean Jesse Jackson was practically triggered at all those horrible people pointing out he profits off of racism.

[–]BundleBee 125ポイント126ポイント  (14子コメント)

Luckily someone managed to archive the jackson ama for our viewing pleasure.

[–]GreyscaleCheese 53ポイント54ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Do you think Al Capone would be jealous of your business model?" "I do."

Gawwwhd, been laughing at that for 10 minutes.

[–]BundleBee 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol, yea that was a good one.

[–]Bookkeep 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow that guy is a mess.

Southpark got it right, yet again.

[–]BattleChimp 26ポイント27ポイント  (4子コメント)

Ooooh I'm gonna get some chocolate milk and sit down for a nice read.

[–]Okichah 43ポイント44ポイント  (9子コメント)

Thats the whole problem with reddit as i see it. They arent on the side of the communities or the mods. Theyre on the side of the investors. The potential cash out of millions of dollars that they've been working towards.

Which is a crappy way to run a business...

[–]brunudumal 246ポイント247ポイント  (37子コメント)

Suddenly, r/fatpeoplehate backslash against authority without communication isn't just a tantrum anymore, huh

[–]bobothegoat 116ポイント117ポイント  (9子コメント)

first they came for /r/fatpeoplehate, but I did not speak out because I wasn't a /r/fatpeoplehate subscriber...

[–]Chiafriend12 32ポイント33ポイント  (7子コメント)

I hate to compare something that refers to the Holocaust to an internet website, but this is eerily fitting

[–]Owyn_Merrilin 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

It refers to the holocaust, but it's applicable to literally any form of oppression. It's more of a warning about gradualism than anything else.

[–]CynicCorvus 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well my history is a little rust but pretty sure that HItler started with silencing 'problematic' factions as well....

[–]HexezWork 76ポイント77ポイント  (12子コメント)

Its almost like when you try to make anonymous users "corporate friendly" (poor Jesse Jackson he was literally raped by questions) they give you a giant middle finger in return.

[–]CloudTheWolfShadowbanned after founding /r/PaoYongYang 55ポイント56ポイント  (4子コメント)

영광스러운 우리의 영원한 지도자 엘렌 파오 동무 만세!

Literally, praise glorious dear leader ellen pao. /r/paoyongyang.

[–]Petrarch1603 75ポイント76ポイント  (14子コメント)

I moderate /r/DowntonAbbey, should I make it private too?

[–]Shugbug1986 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, and make a really British message for it. Like, hilariously British.

[–]PadaV4 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Make it private, a day or 2 break wont hurt anyone :d ?

[–]LeerooooyGaaaankins 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Go for it. Get the Victorian drama crowd in on the action, lol.

[–]MannoSlimminsPeople who talk in metaphors should shampoo my crotch[M] 176ポイント177ポイント  (50子コメント)

Because i'm going to be heading out soon, please use the following website:

http://www.randalolson.com/apps/default_subreddit_status.html

That has the current default subs that are private

[–]SheriffofBanshee 46ポイント47ポイント  (9子コメント)

You should have gone private.

[–]MannoSlimminsPeople who talk in metaphors should shampoo my crotch 44ポイント45ポイント  (6子コメント)

We are still discussing it internally. The top mod was AFK for real life stuff for awhile, and made an appearance. So there could be a sudden reversal depending on his vote. He also has final say as the top mod

[–]BBQ_HaX0r 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'd recommend staying open so that people have a place to discuss the whole thing. I understand a desire to show support or fight for a cause, but I think this place could be better served keeping people informed and keeping everything updated. Just my opinion.

[–]MannoSlimminsPeople who talk in metaphors should shampoo my crotch 34ポイント35ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was talking about /r/jokes.

As far as i know, KiA will remain open

[–]kvxdev 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

He meant r/Jokes. KiA is not a default sub and very much a hub of discussion on the topic. Although, to be fair, if we go dark for this, as long as we're back at the same time as the others, I'm backing this 100%, no matter my personal vote on this. This is definitively a time where number make might.

[–]Chiafriend12 43ポイント44ポイント  (10子コメント)

Why is /r/twoxchromosomes even a default sub if more than half of Reddit is male?

[–]CSMastermind 48ポイント49ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mandatory diversity.

[–]MannoSlimminsPeople who talk in metaphors should shampoo my crotch 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

¯\(ツ)

[–]Toadovsky 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

From what I understood, they did not want to be a default sub, and wanted to keep it small, can't blame them for that

[–]CynicCorvus 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

The original users actually really hated that it got made a default sub. goes to show how far back some of this stuff has been happpening

[–]MrPejorative 442ポイント443ポイント  (17子コメント)

Not that anything looks good for Pao, but firing a woman, who as far as I can tell was well liked by the community can't look good for such a champion of diversity and feminism.

[–]IdioticUsername 43ポイント44ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well liked is an understatement. I think Victoria was about the only admin that people didn't want to stab in the eye with an unsharpened pencil.

[–]bloody_duck 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

Submarining female colleagues is what Pao has a history of. I'm not surprised if she fired a very well liked female of reddit.

[–]jdawg011 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm guessing she was anti-censorhip or something.

[–]Eustace_Savage 44ポイント45ポイント  (3子コメント)

Someone said on another thread she didn't really toe the staunchly feminist party line like the rest of the employees and was pretty ambivalent to it all.

[–]Storthos 169ポイント170ポイント  (8子コメント)

Pao wants to sell reddit. Victoria kept corporate shilling to a minimum. Ergo, she had to go.

[–]Wolfbeckett 48ポイント49ポイント  (6子コメント)

This seems the most likely scenario to me. Reddit's new regime wants it to be an appealing product to sell to the new corporate masters, and the current way AMA's were structured does not contribute to that mission. Then, in a boneheaded move that surprises no one, they decide to burn the offending structure to the ground without bothering to erect a replacement for it first. Good job, Reddit admins, for proving once again that you are truly the most savvy business professionals on the Internet.

[–]NotEnoughCooks 56ポイント57ポイント  (2子コメント)

I got $20 that the "new" AMA is going to be nothing but another PR junket piece. Not that it wasn't basically the same thing at this point anyway. But just watch. Softball questions that no one here asked. They'll all be screened by the "team" and then asked/answered in a single post by the admins.

[–]MrWigglesworth2 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

This... that was always the thing about AMA. Many times it was interesting and cordial. Sometimes people would just ignore the harder questions, but things remained calm at least. But sometimes people got fucking destroyed in there. The Martin O'Malley AMA brings back fond memories.

[–]StayingOccupied 54ポイント55ポイント  (5子コメント)

Oh man Voat is folding under the pressure again

[–]Sirinon/r/redditinaction 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Atko just made a post saying hes upgrading and expects yet another sleepless night.

[–]ElzevirAuxiliatrix 106ポイント107ポイント  (17子コメント)

So it begins.

[–]Maldron_The_Assasin 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

10 years from now, we can look back. At the good, the bad. At the users who are still with us and the ones who aren't. And we'll be able to say we were there. We were there the day reddit died.

[–]whatmattersis0urplan 42ポイント43ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm so excited I created a new throwaway!

[–]Mwhahahahahahaha 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

XD

Honestly... will this be the burning of Reddit? I feel we are being avenged for our (almost) one year of constant battling against these nimwits.

Great way to advertise to people! Come to KiA! The only subreddit that actually lets discussion happen!

[–]Masterdoctorn7 47ポイント48ポイント  (23子コメント)

That is very weird 0.o I wonder what the "reorganization" means on like how much it will "change".

[–]Cheshire1 86ポイント87ポイント  (13子コメント)

I wouldn't be surprised if Pao's getting rid of the rest of the non-SJW mods from the major subreddits.

[–]Draconilian 63ポイント64ポイント  (10子コメント)

if they really are attempting that, Then reddit will die TODAY, there is no way they can get away with it.

[–]telios87 38ポイント39ポイント  (3子コメント)

They'll get away with it. Most people don't know about this stuff, and of those that know, most don't care. This is a war by proxy between two ideologies, with the blind and dumb (meaning "unable to speak", not "stupid") serving as both audience and ammo.

[–]Draconilian 47ポイント48ポイント  (1子コメント)

if the core users leave, then reddit will be lacking in content, when it's lacking in content, the lurkers look for alternatives.

[–]Magyman 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

The reorganizing its a reference to Victoria, who helped run the ama's, getting abruptly fired. Check out r/OutOfTheLoop for the whole thing and Karmanaut response

Edit: typo

[–]SpeakLikeAChild04 42ポイント43ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is like War Games between the reddit admin hierarchy and the power mods.

 Shall we play a game? 

 Love to. How about global thermonuclear reddit war?

 Wouldn't you prefer a good game of chess?

[–]AkudraA-cool-dra 74ポイント75ポイント  (4子コメント)

The best way for KotakuInAction to protest this action is to remain open and talking about it as all the major subs go dark. Has that nice "I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me" feel to it.

[–]ClitInstantWood 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be honest KiA fought alone for quite a while, it was time for others to step up and fight. Now we watch it burn from the front row.

[–]AleisterJowley 132ポイント133ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do have a sort of perverse satisfaction from knowing that all of our concerns over the new Reddit regime were completely warranted.

Fight on, friends.

[–]Seruun 175ポイント176ポイント  (12子コメント)

If I were a shareholder of reddit I would try to have chairman pao fired for damaging the value my property with her poor business decisions.

[–]firex726 66ポイント67ポイント  (11子コメント)

And risk another lawsuit?

[–]Seruun 34ポイント35ポイント  (7子コメント)

Now that the discrimination argument is out of the way they only need to point at the user discontent, how that damages the value of reddit as an advertising platform and... is reddit listed at a Stock Exchange? I would assume that it has been sinking for some time.

[–]Slowik13 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't think Reddit is listed. It's a subsidiary of Advance Publications, which is a private company. Neither Reddit nor Advance Publications have had an initial public offering of any kind, at least not yet.

[–]dvidsilva 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

Admin responses are a joke, they don't give a shit at all for the community.

take a look at / u /kn0thing 's childish responses

[–]eatredditsbandwidth 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, even SRD is giving him shit for it. I guess even they have a limit to how much admin bullshit they'll play damage control for.

If those idiots can get their heads out of their asses and notice this is fucked up things are getting bad.

[–]Jamesbuc 62ポイント63ポイント  (12子コメント)

/r/circlejerk too has gone private (with a parody message of the IAmA message)

Edit: Also /r/art

[–]TheHat2 86ポイント87ポイント  (11子コメント)

/r/movies and /r/history are private, too.

[–]greycubed 36ポイント37ポイント  (3子コメント)

Movies sometimes make me feel unsafe.

Seriously though, Victoria was amazing.

There is an r / outoftheloop thread explaining the whole situation. I posted the link but an automoderator removed my post for doing so.

[–]NotEnoughCooks 29ポイント30ポイント  (1子コメント)

/r/videos just went private

This is the day where reddit learns whether or not it can just shit on the people that made it a success and have them keep coming back.

[–]TehRawk 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

a message from the moderators of /r/history

In light of recent developments in reddit staff change and our own troubles in getting the proper support we need from reddit as a company we are setting this subreddit private. We will open up to the public again once we have figured out what course we want to take in the future. The events of today have contributed to this decision but are not our main reason for taking this action.

A protest perhaps. On behalf of the IAMA person.

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    [–]Inteliguard 47ポイント48ポイント  (6子コメント)

    "Popcorn tastes good."

    Jesus. I am baffled by the the amount of disdain that comment conveys. Even if we ignore how insulting that is to redditors who have legitimate grievances, talking that way about the firing of a staff member is insanely unprofessional and all around dickish.

    [–]Lucky0Looser 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

    As catchy as "Let them eat cake" Will it also lead to a revolution? :-)

    [–]JLSMC 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

    another redditor said it first and I agree, if I acted like this to the people that used my products I would be fired. Totally, utterly unprofessional.

    [–]WhoSavesTheCityHim. 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    insanely unprofessional and all around dickish.

    That should be reddit's motto.

    [–]Slowik13 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    TIL / u /kn0thing has reached a higher plane of existence and watches the lowly Redditor from on high, giggling uncontrollably at their problems like an immature 15 year old watching a particularly bad Adam Sandler movie.

    Sorry - that sort of shit rubs me the wrong way. When you have some level of authority and are in the public eye, have some sense of composure and at least the semblance of decency. That sort of shit feels like it spits in the face of the Reddit community, as well as the face of the employee that was just let go.

    [–]Fenixx117 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

    At first I was wondering why KiA was not going black but since we are already being shadowbanned as an entire subreddit, I say fuck 'em. KiA is now homebase for people to rally around and find out what the fuck is happening.

    SJW's are a disease

    [–]fullhands 70ポイント71ポイント  (13子コメント)

    Guys at Voat have a full list of subreddits set to private.

    https://www.voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/193855

    [–]Furin 49ポイント50ポイント  (10子コメント)

    /r/sexwithbears

    O-okay then...

    [–]DarkPhoenix142 58ポイント59ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The only thing truly lost.

    [–]bobothegoat 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It joins a list of defaults that are set to private. Today I learned that /r/sexwithbears is a default.

    [–]Draconilian 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Dammit I was JUST looking to find some quality ursine porn and it has to go private... stupid social justice warriors ruining my porn!

    [–]hostile345Not with a bang, but a Pao 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Ok, I have one question regarding this sub:

    How the fuck do they have more subscribers than us?

    /s

    [–]ReLiC71 46ポイント47ポイント  (4子コメント)

    If AdviceAnimals and Funny go too, I will die of laughter

    [–]zeissbickham 39ポイント40ポイント  (8子コメント)

    We can conjecture all we want, but we really need Victoria's side of the story if any of this is going to resemble any semblance of the truth.

    Admittedly, it looks pretty bad for reddit though. Let's hope there's no NDA nonsense preventing her from sharing her side.

    [–]porygonzguy[S] 27ポイント28ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Yeah, I'm hoping she steps up soon to give her side of the story.

    [–]M3_Drifter 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It would be terribly unprofessional and hurt her future career prospects. Might even be NDA'd. Everything about this lady screams good ethics and professionalism, so we most likely will not hear anything from her - unless Pao et al. tries to throw her under the bus or something.

    [–]chintzy 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

    This is not the first time an interview has gone badly in the history of PR, or even reddit. Seems like the wrong choice if her leaving is related to the Jesse Jackson AmA. We don't know the exact circumstances that led to her leaving reddit. But I think it's pretty clear to most that the site is very badly managed by the admin team and this sort of mod protest was a long time coming.

    [–]Draconilian 66ポイント67ポイント  (17子コメント)

    So, what are we naming this? The Day Reddit Stood Still? Digg 2, The Redditing? just RedditRevolt part two?

    [–]dman87 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

    I get a weird feeling about all of this.

    My gut tells me this is a bad sign. Everything I read about this just makes me uncomfortable. This could be the beginning of the downfall.... :-/

    [–]Shade_Raven 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Why is that bad? I embrace it

    [–]dman87 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Honestly, with all of this stuff... I'm wondering if that just might be the best thing.

    Maybe... just maybe, it's time for the Reddit exodus.

    [–]RedditUsername123456 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Reddits Great Leap Forward

    [–]nightmare901 38ポイント39ポイント  (1子コメント)

    /r/Askreddit, /r/movies, /r/science and /r/IAMA all gone private?

    Reddit is kill.

    This kills the reddit.

    [–]wwwwwwwwwwwwwwq 35ポイント36ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Reddit admin /u/kn0thing's response to the situation: "Popcorn tastes good."

    https://archive.is/R2row

    [–]Information_Landmine 33ポイント34ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Don't know if it's related, but /r/punchablefaces has just been banned.

    [–]DwhyDx 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Shit, the admins just took advantage of the fact that everyone would be to distracted to notice. And it even has the same reason as the FPH ban.

    [–]Information_Landmine 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yep, that's what I was thinking. They can't waste this opportunity to do some "housekeeping"

    [–]ares_god_not_sign [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    It's not banned; that's their css and a joke. Here's the ban image they're using, which is not the one banned subreddits use.

    [–]wrathborne 75ポイント76ポイント  (42子コメント)

    I think theres a chance that this re-org bullshit and the firing of Victoria may all be related to Jesse Jacksons /AMA

    https://voat.co/v/politics/comments/193154

    [–]porygonzguy[S] 36ポイント37ポイント  (7子コメント)

    I wouldn't doubt it has something to do with Victoria's firing, given the close timing.

    [–]Synchrotr0n 30ポイント31ポイント  (6子コメント)

    • Jackson pays Reddit for his AMA so he can do his PR stunt.

    • Admins and /r/IAMA mods fails to sanitize the post by removing/downvoting all the tough questions and not upvoting the easy ones, which creates an "unsafe space" for the celebrity to talk and making him look bad because of all the shots being fired.

    • The high administration of Reddit gets pissed with that because it lowers the monetary value of an AMA post, so they blame someone for it.

    • Victoria gets the shaft.

    How much of a tinfoil is that?

    [–]MerchantHunter88 35ポイント36ポイント  (17子コメント)

    Mr. Jackson,

    You are an immoral, hate-filled race baiter that has figured out how to manipulate the political system for your own gain. You've personally set back race relations year after year and continue to do more harm than good. Extorting money from companies to line your pockets and threatening to bus in protestors and create a fake racial controversy if they don’t agree to pay you off is NOT civil rights activism. My question is simple; how is your relationship with the illegitimate child you fathered in 1998 while cheating on your wife? Bonus question: How much money have you extorted from various people and companies over the years of practicing your shakedown scheme? Do you think Al Capone would be jealous of your business model if he were still alive?

    OH LAWDY LAWDS!! THEY DUN CALLED ME OUT!!

    [–]Logan_Mac[M] 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

    WE HIT /r/all ALL ABOARD THE HAPPENING TRAIN

    [–]ElzevirAuxiliatrix 31ポイント32ポイント  (7子コメント)

    This is either one of two things:

    The moderation teams of these subreddits are locking down in protest of the whole /ama/ drama. This is hilarious if true.

    These subreddits are being closed temporarily while Administrators are sterilizing the moderation team to ensure that future conduct on said subreddits match more closely with the administrator teams ideology. Meaning that the future of those subreddits will eventually mirror the kind of hell-blasted landscape we know as SRS.

    The most important thing to know is, because reddits structure is a volunteer-moderator system and not a employee-moderator system, Reddit actually has very little control over its website. Because its reliance on moderators, the administrator team is mostly powerless in dealing with problems without them. In any case, right now it the time to bomb front-page with links to V-O-A-T.

    [–]RobertNAdams 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Option C: People are fucking pissed about Victoria.

    I've lurked Reddit for a few years now. I've yet to see Victoria do or say anything remotely bad. She's a goddamned sweetheart.

    [–]porygonzguy[S] 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The moderation teams of these subreddits are locking down in protest of the whole /ama/ drama. This is hilarious if true.

    Given the privacy messages on the subs, yeah, it looks like it's in protest.

    [–]telios87 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Probably both, since most (all?) also conduct AMAs with Victoria's help.

    [–]Logan_Mac 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The guy who did the top voted question on the Jess Jackson AMA just got shadowbanned

    https://imgur.com/TpNZ2jQ

    [–]NotEnoughCooks 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Hopefully, much like /pol/, everyone will have to choke back the tears and think to themselves, "/r/KotakuInAction was right".

    [–]Inuma 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Define irony...

    Reddit decides to fight SOPA with a Dark Day...

    One year and a half later, they have a Dark Day themselves...

    [–]Protosega 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The people who were not part of the FPH angry mob are now mad because of this....

    They just pissed off everyone and this is great for bitcoin.

    [–]ShadowCabal 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

    "Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."-Winston Churchill

    [–]AIR-CAV 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Political scientist here. It amazes me how authoritative leadership structures regardless of ideology follows the same formula of collapse. Its almost laughable how easy it is to predict leaders actions and the blow-back from the people/community. God I do love watching this!

    [–]Fenrir007 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

    From what I understand, this woman was someone essential for AMAs, but was suddenly sacked from Reddit without a cause. There is now a commotion because no one was given a warning in advance so they could rearrange the already scheduled AMAs, as well as for the fact that they really liked her. People also seem discontent with reddit's completely absent admins to help with ongoing AMAs or just generally make some sense of this lunacy. That more or less it?

    It's definitely amusing, though I don't particularly care beyond watching the fireworks. I don't see this affecting us in one way or another. Unless you guys wanna go private, too, as a way of showing solidarity (and I, personally, don't care or mind).

    By the way, if you go private, can already subbed people still use the sub?

    [–]Theawesome67 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

    /r/ninjago mod here, its a small sub, but we have made it private.

    [–]MerchantHunter88 53ポイント54ポイント  (7子コメント)

    So basically Chairman Pao is responsible for the death of reddit due to her censorship?

    This feels like Digg all over again....

    RIP free speech. Hello protected corporate speech and SJW marxist hugbox.

    [–]Skari7 17ポイント18ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Hello protected corporate speech and SJW marxist hugbox.

    ...now there's two things that you don't expect to go together.

    [–]BewareTheSuperman 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

    In other news, hundreds of "journalists" are now shitting their pants, realizing they won't be able to rip stories from Reddit's front page until these issues are resolved.

    [–]uberwolf0Actual Boogie 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

    This is fun. As much as I enjoyed living in Rome I also love watching it burn. ;)

    [–]AleisterJowley 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Somethings fucky . . .

    [–]DeadGamerWalking 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Lol the pinned post on /r/de is asking everyone to go on voat if reddit is in ruins tomorrow

    [–]firex726 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

    As mod of /r/SportsBra I stand with them.

    [–]Deathcrow 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Guess which large Subreddit (that is also modded by an admin) is not going private:

    https://archive.is/38e2f

    Geee. Color me surprised.

    We, as a subreddit, try to stay out of reddit politics as a whole and this means avoiding participating in site-wide protests

    HAHAHA. My bullshit-o-meter just went through the roof.

    Edit: Wait... Deimorz isn't a mod anymore on r/games? When did that happen? Well doesn't really matter, Piemonkey might as well be one too.

    [–]cha0stat tvam asi 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Well, that escalated quickly.

    [–]fireforfear 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't know if the Jesse Jackson thing WAS the cause, but I PMed chooter this morning asking her that very question.

    Me: This didn't have anything to do with the Jesse Jackson thing, did it?

    What's next? Where will you go? Can we help?

    chooter: Not as far as I know! I don't know what's next, but I will always be here for you guys. I promise.

    [–]b1khoa 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This shit-storm gonna be a lot bigger than the fph ban.

    [–]Jayhawk519 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What a time to be alive gentleman.

    [–]Petrarch1603 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fuck it, add /R/DowntonAbbey to the list

    [–]Wolfbeckett 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Just happened to AskReddit too.

    [–]azriel777 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I am expecting another 4chan incident where a lot of mods and sub forums are about to be let go/closed. Everybody remember to go to VOAT (which is being flooded with new members as we speak) as a backup in case KIA ends up on the purge list.

    [–]ggburner23 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is scary. Whatever the "administrative personnel change" is, I hope it doesn't affect KiA.

    [–]SigmaTheDJ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    /r/askreddit too by the looks of things. I saw someone post a link to a thread in there on Twitter which was asking why Victoria was fired, but when I clicked on it it said that the sub was now private.

    [–]TehRawk 5ポイント6ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Anyone know exactly what happened with /u/chooter? Did she resign or was she fired, and why?

    [–]porygonzguy[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (7子コメント)

    She was fired.

    [–]TehRawk 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Was there any reason given publicly?

    [–]Eworc 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Nope, in best Reddit style it was done in complete silence. Also no one that knows is allowed to talk about it (NDA) apparently.

    [–]Revansgate 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    From what i'm hearing i don't think she even knows, i swear she has something to the effect of "you know as much as i do".

    [–]Magyman 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So is there anywhere to do what we do best and shitpost to help out?

    [–]Lo-Ping 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    /r/sexwithbears is gone

    I won't survive this

    [–]totally_professional 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is HUGE! It was about time we had a full blown protest against Pao, and i think that this is definitely the right way to do so!

    [–]Lucky0Looser 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

    My original comment was deleted because it contained a link to the Google cache of the AmA with Victoria. I have substituted that link with a link to an archived version and resubmit my comment here again.
    Link to the original comment in case the mods "undelete" it:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3bxhxf/happenings_three_subreddits_have_gone_private/csqgjw4


    Victoria handled most if not all of the high profile AmAs and is considered by many one of the reason r/IAmA developed into one of the flagship subs of Reddit. Bill Gates and Barack Obama among many others did a high publicity "Ask me Anything'" there.

    Here is the Google cache of the AmA she herself did 04 Sep 2014


    The admins of Reddit have a [A] next to their username, the user Chooter (Victoria) no longer sports one, showing that she no longer is an admin.
    Archive of her user page: https://archive.is/Gxm3Y


    Archive r/IAmA is private: https://archive.is/OlI6V
    Archive r/science is private: https://archive.is/Z7reH
    Archive r/movies is private: https://archive.is/w1hHX


    /u/karmanaut one of the mods of IAmA, comments on the letting go of Victoria and on why the sub is set to private (From the discussion thread "Why has R/Iama been set to private?" in r/OutOfTheLoop)

    Today, we learned that Victoria was unexpectedly let go from her position with Reddt. We all had the rug ripped out from under us and feel betrayed. Before doing that, the admins really should have at least talked to us (and all the other subs that host AMAs, like /r/Books, /r/Science, /r/Music, etc.) We had a number of AMAs scheduled for today that Victoria was supposed to help with, and they are all left absolutely high and dry (hence taking IAMA private to figure out the situation) She was still willing to help them today (before the sub was shut down, of course) even without being paid or required to do so. Just a sign of how much she is committed to what she does. The admins didn't realize how much we rely on Victoria. Part of it is proof, of course: we know it's legitimate when she's sitting right there next to the person and can make them provide proof. We've had situations where agents or others have tried to do an AMA as their client, and Victoria shut that shit down immediately. We can't do that anymore. Part of it is also that Victoria is an essential lifeline of communication. When something goes wrong in an AMA, we can call and get it fixed immediately. Otherwise, we have to resort to desperately try messaging the person via Reddit (and they may not know to check their messages or even to look for these notifications). Sometimes we have to resort to shit like this (now with a screenshotPNG because I can't link to that anymore for you) where we have to nuke an entire submission just so that the person is aware of the problem. Part of it is also organization. The vast majority of scheduling requests go through her and she ensures that we have all of the standard information that we need ahead of time (date, time, proof, description, etc.) and makes it easier for the teams that set up AMAs on both ends. She ensures that things will go well and that the person understands what /r/IAMA is and what is expected of them. Without her filling this role, we will be utterly overwhelmed. We might need to scrap the calendar altogether, or somehow limit AMAs from those that would need help with the process. We have been really blindsided by all of this. As a result, we will need to go through our processes and see what can be done without her. Tl;dr: for /r/IAMA to work the way it currently does, we need Victoria. Without her, we need to figure out a different way for it to work.
    https://archive.is/9jFFk,


    Update #1:
    On a Voat discussion thread one of the theories advanced for the firing of Victoria was the recent disastrous AmA with Jesse Jackson and that Victoria possibly muddled up and answered the wrong questions. Here for example Jesse Jackson does not seem to answer the posed question and from his standpoint, he probably should not have engaged at all:
    Screenshot of Question: https://i.imgur.com/jYe4CXm.jpg
    Discussion on Voat: https://voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/193062

    However /u/karmanaut claims to know why Victoria was fired and it was not the AmA with Jesse Jackson. But as to why, he keeps the cat in the bag
    Third comment from the top: It doesn't have anything to do with that.
    https://archive.is/Kxqia

    Edit: Article in the Dailycaller "Reddit Ask Me Anything Goes Horribly Wrong For Jesse Jackson"
    http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/01/reddit-ask-me-anything-goes-horribly-wrong-for-jesse-jackson/


    Update #2:

    A statement by /u/nallen a mod of r/science

    I fully support this decision to shut down /r/IAmA, letting Victoria go is a slap.
    To back this up, I am the mod in /r/science that organizes all of the science AMAs, and I am going to have meaningful problems in the /r/Science AMAs, Victoria was the only line of communication with the admins. If someone wants to get analytics for an AMA the answer will be "Sorry, I can't help."
    Dropping this on all of us in the AMA sphere feels like an enormous slap to those of us who put in massive amounts of time to bring quality content to reddit.
    I personally feel like shutting /r/science down as well, that's how much of a bad taste this leaves.
    https://archive.is/QxQGj


    Update #3:

    On Voat it is claimed that the shutdown of r/IAmA happened during a live AMA:

    [–] physicscat 1 points (+1|-0) 1 hour ago
    This all happened, apparently, during an AMA. The subreddit went private during the AMA.

    [–] userexec [S] 1 points (+1|-0) 1 hour ago
    That's correct. And ten minutes before another AMA was to begin. It was with Paul Elio of Elio Motors (that little 3-wheeled car that's supposed to be produced in the old Hummer plant). He hasn't said anything publicly unlike the Berkeley professor, but from what I've heard he was unaware that anything was up as well. Ended up rolling with the punch and going to /r/AMA instead but the turnout was tiny.
    https://voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/193062/569598


    Update #4:

    The AmA from Berkley Professor Edward Frenkel (Mathematician, UC Berkeley professor, filmmaker, author of a New York Times bestselling book 'Love and Math' -- soon in 17 languages) was interrupted by r/IAmA going private:

    A tweet by him:
    Details on the shutting down of @reddit_AMA in the middle of my AMA:
    All this sounds really bad and unprofessional.
    https://twitter.com/edfrenkel/status/616662322623459330


    Update #5:

    /r/circlejerk has also gone private with the following note:
    Archive: https://archive.is/7FDJo

    a message from the moderators of /r/circlejerk
    thankmsvictoria
    Due to internal administration reorganization at circlejerk, /r/circlejerk has temporarily been made private by the moderators. We will be using this time to restructure our process for jerking. If you have any concerns, please contact circlejerk at: berniesandersforpresident at reddit.com
    To message the moderators of /r/circlejerk directly, please click here.

    email address and other identifying information removed


    Update #6:

    Comment by kn0thing (Alexis Ohanian, Reddit co-founder) on SRD in the thread "/r/IAmA set to private over mod firing"

    [–]kn0thing [score hidden] an hour ago
    Popcorn tastes good.
    https://archive.is/hOWHd

    Edward Frenkel (the UC Berkley Professor who coulld not finish his AmA due to r/IAmA going private) retweeted the following tweet by Michael Smith
    Here's what the co-founder and exec chairman has to say about this whole situation: Popcorn tastes good
    https://twitter.com/msmith122/status/616758003128266752


    Update #7:

    Atko (the admin and founder of voat.co) says: "We are currently seeing a major spike in traffic"
    https://voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/193897/570604


    Update #8 at 01:40 GMT:

    List of 62 Subreddits who have gong private over IAMAgate at this time

    Source at Voat: https://voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/193855
    Archive: https://archive.is/6NBg6


    Update #9 at 01:45 GMT:

    User Magnar of Voat tries his hand at prophecy:
    [–] Magnar 94 points (+94|-0) 2 hours ago
    I have a feeling Voat is going to see another large wave of users join over the coming days... Brace yourself Atko, redditors are coming! https://voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/193855/570184


    Update #10 at 02:00 GMT:

    For a few seconds "The service is unavailable" for https://voat.co


    Update #11 at 02:05 GMT:
    Voat is buckeling under the load. Two more times "The service is unavailable" but the site came back up again after all.


    Update #11 at 02:10 GMT:

    Exclusive footage from the server room of Voat:
    http://i.imgur.com/Wb4grzW.gif


    Update #12 at 03:20 GMT:

    Voat is under heavy load. Please try again in a few minutes.
    https://archive.is/vNJOt

    [–]Logan_Mac 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    /r/GTAV down 163.000 subs

    [–]SistaSabuda 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    https://i.imgur.com/c7SNTR8.jpg. How prophetic.

    Does this mean we can't look forward to Reverend Al's AmA?

    Also, everyone, be sure say hi in your posts to the lonely girls and betas in SRS.

    [–]grangach 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I never liked fph but this is exactly the kind of thing I feared.