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Buttery!/r/IAmA set to private over mod firing (self.SubredditDrama)

eonOneDiamonds, gold, white people が 投稿

Victoria's Secret / AMAgeddon

(thanks to afrofagne, confluencer and others for the suggestion)

Victoria (chooter) was an admin, not just a mod. I dun goofed.

For posterity.

Full comments on /r/OutOfTheLoop - Now locked

Karmanaut explains the decision and how he only found out via modmail from an AMA participant, who chimes in here.

He seems to be continuing the discussion on /r/bestof

Various people chime in to bemoan the state of Reddit:

/r/Science mod contemplates solidarity

"Maybe Victoria will file a sexual harassment suit, and this Pao thing will come full circle."

One commenter finds the silver lining.

Why do we even need hand-holding in AMAs?

Shutting down a default sub is literally the worst thing.

Maybe the admins want to monetize AMAs.

If Channing Tatum doesn't need Victoria, maybe nobody does.

Even Voat has chimed in! Update: now they're having server issues.

Admin response:

kn0thing has something to say:

We don't talk about specific employees, but I do want you to know that I'm here to triage AMA requests in the interim.

I posted this on r/IamaMods but I'm reposting here:

We get that losing Victoria has a significant impact on the way you manage your community. I'd really like to understand how we can help solve these problems, because I know r/IAMA thrived before her and will thrive after.

We're prepared to help coordinate and schedule AMAs. I've got the inbound coming through my inbox right now and many of the people who come on to do AMAs are excited to do them without assistance (most recently, the noteworthy Channing Tatum AMA).

kn0thing is in full damage control mode now:

We were prepared to handle today's (and upcoming AMAs) -- we'd setup AMA@reddit.com and prepped a team, but unfortunately a couple of these subs have gone private.

Critical popcorn mass achieved

/r/science goes dark!

/r/circlejerk doesn't know what to do with itself!

/r/movies goes down as well!

AMorpork declares Dramacon 1.5

Victoria (chooter) shows up in /r/pics and answers questions! (Just not those questions.)

On Twitter, Edward Frenkel is mad about being shut out in the middle of an AMA.

Meanwhile, #RedditRevolt and Reddit are trending on Twitter.

/r/Upvoted is feeling the burn.

We're at Dramacon 1!!!

Fuck me. I get home from my commute and everything's gone to hell.

Subs gone private:

I'll update as I can. There's a live thread going on for more updates.

News outside reddit

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[–]zzzluap95AMAgeddon [スコア非表示]  (108子コメント)

I posted this on another thread but it got deleted so I'll repost it here

List of subreddits that have gone private (or are planning to) in the aftermath of Victoria's firing:

(will keep updating as more go private)

[–]thavius_tanklin [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Wow. I have never seen such a protest on reddit before. Quite interesting to watch it all unfold.

[–]Existential_OwlWhat about my freeze peaches??? [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

/r/law ????

Holy shit.

[–]randonymous [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Their message is a bit different than others too. A repeated complaint is just how bad the mod tools are, and how rapidly they've been outpaced by the community. The mods need lots of help, and Reddit.Com has not been particularly helpful in listening to what its unpaid curators have been asking for.

We have chosen at this time to set /r/law private. Communication and support between admins and moderators has been deteriorating and basic tools such as moderator tools and modmail are sloppy at best, with constant promise for improvement never coming. Communication has also been lacking as evidenced by todays mishandled firing of Chooter. In solidarity with fellow subs, we have chosen to go private.

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    [–]pandas795I survived The Fattening and all I got was this lousy flair [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

    /r/Spain went private

    [–]Guardax [スコア非表示]  (16子コメント)

    I can't believe that the simple act of removing one person could cripple a website

    [–]Cromar [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

    Has to be validating for /u/chooter, though. It's that fantasy that you get fired and all of your coworkers walk out in protest. Except the mods aren't paid but fuck it, it's close enough.

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      [–]Direpants [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

      /r/CircumcisedPride also went private.

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        [–]chickenmagic 504ポイント505ポイント  (27子コメント)

        How often do r/outoftheloop threads get locked? I submitted the question, and it was literally my first submission ever there.

        [–]SleevepupRIP /u/chooter 500ポイント501ポイント  (14子コメント)

        Yours is the first I've seen.

        Welcome to Reddit history.

        [–]budgiebum 35ポイント36ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Probably not often, but I can see this being a highly controversial shit storm that those mods don't want to deal with. Not your fault at all.

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          [–]flirtydodoi've always depended on the saltiness of redditors 637ポイント638ポイント  (53子コメント)

          for anyone complaining about threads getting deleted, 99% sure there is going to be a blog post and then we will drown in drama. lol i consider these threads like pre-game commentary

          [–]Lachryma_udShill Looking For Work 224ポイント225ポイント  (10子コメント)

          "Every AMA is responsible for its own soul".

          I dunno if there'll actually be a blog post since I'm not sure how much they want to talk about whatever happened, but I really hope there's one.

          [–]flirtydodoi've always depended on the saltiness of redditors 31ポイント32ポイント  (5子コメント)

          they need to say something...the official line is that mods can do whatever they want but /r/iama is so beneficial to reddit, i can't imagine just letting this go for days. anyone remember that wow mod who closed down the sub and admins interfered? I can't wait to see the absolute shitstorm if they choose to do the same now

          [–]Meneth 35ポイント36ポイント  (3子コメント)

          anyone remember that wow mod who closed down the sub and admins interfered?

          He was using the closing of the sub to try to extort Blizzard, so I think his removal was pretty well justified.

          But yeah, the admins obviously have to do or say something in regards to IAMA...

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              [–]Christoph_BlocherWas here before the Jackdaw incident 216ポイント217ポイント  (12子コメント)

              Yep, somewhere in the reddit offices someone is tasked with writing a cheery chipper blog post knowing it'll immediately blow up in their face and leave a giant hole.

              [–]mach-2Ask me for my LGBT mafia pilot script. Seriously. 150ポイント151ポイント  (6子コメント)

              Like building a suicide vest and trying to practice.

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                [–]eonOneDiamonds, gold, white people[S] 254ポイント255ポイント  (22子コメント)

                Oh god, the blog post drama would be overwhelming.

                [–]mach-2Ask me for my LGBT mafia pilot script. Seriously. 254ポイント255ポイント  (19子コメント)

                "Every employee is responsible for their own soul"

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                  [–]websterandy42Marxist-Cabalist 35ポイント36ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Oh god, this is an appetizer.

                  My body is not ready.

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                    [–]Distq 231ポイント232ポイント  (21子コメント)

                    /r/circlejerk is now private.

                    [–]MrEpicwill 216ポイント217ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    Topical, as always.

                    [–]treebogmeme mastermind [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                    Please contact circlejerk at berniesandersforpresident@reddit.com

                    God I love /r/circlejerk

                    [–]ProtosegaYour Local Almost Politically Correct Redneck [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                    What a time to be alive.

                    [–]mistled_LP 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    They were private four days ago as well. Did they come back just in time to go private again?

                    https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3betyt/why_is_rcirclejerk_private/

                    [–]just_an_ordinary_guy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                    Yeah. It was up at least all yesterday. I'm missing out on a lot of shitposting and copypasta. The two places I take shelter during drama tsunamis is /r/subredditdrama and /r/circlejerk

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                        [–]jsmooth7Billionaires' Rights Activist 225ポイント226ポイント  (20子コメント)

                        It feels like Reddit wants to try out all these different things, but has no commitment to actually follow through with them. I don't think they have any long term vision of what they want to be, or any plan on how to get there.

                        A number of times they've introduced a new project with nothing more than a vague idea. Then no further direction is provided and a few months later the project is quietly killed. RedditMade (killed by a flood of shitty T-shirts no one wanted) and RedditNotes (killed by the fact no one even knew what the fuck they were) would fit in this category.

                        Still, despite the lack of admin direction provided, some projects still manage to get off the ground. And yet they still somehow find a way to screw up these Reddit successes. The redditgifts marketplace was actually pretty good. It actually made money, and when combined with the gift exchanges was a very unique platform. So naturally the admins killed it, with zero warning.

                        AMAs are also very successful and draw a huge number of new users to the site. It's certainly very unique to reddit. They've even built a stand alone app for them, so clearly this is something very important to the site. Victoria is obviously a huge part of the success... so naturally they get rid of her with zero warning.

                        I realize there are a limited number of reddit admins, and they have limited resources, but this is ridiculous. I don't even think it's possible to make more short-sighted decisions than they have in the past year.

                        [–]VodkaBarfAbout ethics in binge drinking [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

                        It really is baffling that one of the most well-trafficked sites on the net is this poorly managed. 4chan seems to have better management than Reddit.

                        Also, I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck RedditNotes were supposed to be, but thankfully the admins put their energy into somehow making the search function worse and crippling one of the biggest draws to their site.

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                          [–]imakuramMeta broccoli for meta cancer. 1005ポイント1006ポイント  (410子コメント)

                          This seems to be a seriously stupid decision. We have several AMAs upcoming in /r/books and have no idea how to contact the authors.

                          [–]NurglingsWould Jesus support US taxes on Bitcoin earnings? 390ポイント391ポイント  (37子コメント)

                          I didn't even think that the sub mods probably wouldn't have any contact info for various AMAs. This is going to wreck a lot of shit for the next few months.

                          [–]imakuramMeta broccoli for meta cancer. 580ポイント581ポイント  (21子コメント)

                          and she is being professional and contacting us in the backroom to help us fix this. Still doing her job it seems. . .

                          [–]chickenmagic 210ポイント211ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          Wow. Respect.

                          [–]techsupport_rekall 182ポイント183ポイント  (10子コメント)

                          The butter will drown us all if the admins ban her completely for helping. I can't imagine they would, but then again, all of this was kind of out of nowhere.

                          [–]mach-2Ask me for my LGBT mafia pilot script. Seriously. 89ポイント90ポイント  (6子コメント)

                          If that happens, I'm going to get myself a violin and have a last jam session as the Redditanic sinks into the depths of butter.

                          Like this

                          Sometime around 2.10 a.m. as the Redditanic began settling more quickly into the icy North Altantic, the sounds of rabble, familiar dank memes and popular shitposts that had floated reassuringly across her frontpage suddenly stopped as Buttermaster Mach-2 tapped his bow against his violin. TITRCJ and his musicians, all wearing their lifebelts now, were standing back at the base of the second funnel, on the roof of the First Class Lounge, where they had been jerking for the better part of an hour.

                          solemn strains of the meme "Nearer My God to Thee" began drifting across the water. It was with a perhaps unintended irony that mach-2 chose a meme that pleaded for the mercy of the Almighty, as the ultimate material conceit of the Dramwardian Age, the site that "God Himself couldn't sink," foundered beneath his feet. As the band played, the slant of the deck grew steeper, while from within the hull came a rapidly increasing number of thuds, bangs and crashes as interior furnishings broke loose, walls and partitions collapsed--the Reditanic was only moments from breaking apart.

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                              [–]imakuramMeta broccoli for meta cancer. 85ポイント86ポイント  (7子コメント)

                              We get some of our AMAs ourselves (mostly /u/Chtorrr and /u/reentz) but chooter gets a lot - especially the bigger names.

                              [–]Chtorrr 45ポイント46ポイント  (5子コメント)

                              I'll get them figured out I think. At least most of them.

                              You guys should all take a moment to look at our wonderful lineup of AMAs. I've been working hard on :) There's only 3-4 who I don't have contacts for at the moment.

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                                  [–]TheForrestFire 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  That sucks :( I love the /r/books AMAs.

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                                    [–]dirtyrogue 432ポイント433ポイント  (42子コメント)

                                    kn0thing -

                                    We don't talk about specific employees

                                    At least not anymore...

                                    [–]FellKnight 198ポイント199ポイント  (34子コメント)

                                    To be fair, his epic smack down of that former employee who sucked at his job then posted an AMA bashing reddit was pure gold

                                    Edit: I can't tell my reddit admins apart

                                    [–]bethlooknerask me about the telenovela I'm writing [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

                                    It was Yishan who yelled at the former employee, not kn0thing.

                                    [–]dirtyrogue 184ポイント185ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                    Gold from a drama point of view, terrible from a "This is a CEO in charge of a $500 million company" point of view.

                                    [–]FellKnight 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Well yeah, came for the reddit, stayed for the popcorn.

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                                          [–]TorchwoodHub 1232ポイント1233ポイント  (81子コメント)

                                          "Hey guys Victoria is helping me out today"

                                          RIP

                                          [–]bonjouramigosThe 'i' in 'team' 331ポイント332ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                          I loved how she would type what people said, almost verbatim. Really helped get a feel for the interviewee's personality, especially when that person was absolutely batshit insane. No cupcake, no chooter, what administrator can I have a crush on now? Krispykrackers? Ugh... groce.

                                          RIP in peace, Victoria.

                                          [–]black_floyd 193ポイント194ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                          The Jeff Goldblum AMA was a perfect example of capturing someone's speech patterns.

                                          [–]TheLegendofGinAlleyPhD memeology 138ポイント139ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          Not just typed verbatim but typed their behaviours, little nuances their laughs or facial expressions. That really made them better for me.

                                          [–]SlopBasket 58ポイント59ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          The Tommy Wizeau one was perfect. She captured it perfectly.

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                                            [–]BleachBody 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            The difference between a "Victoria helping me" AMA and one that the person (or worse, PR team) is doing themselves is like night and day. Even when the person is au fait with reddit, she managed so much more of their personality across.

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                                              [–]Edible_Loafers 509ポイント510ポイント  (56子コメント)

                                              She seemed like such a cool person. I'm actually upset about this :(

                                              [–]TorchwoodHub 417ポイント418ポイント  (49子コメント)

                                              I personally detested /r/IAMA because of how it became just another advertising soapbox but I liked her. She was chill.

                                              [–]TheDuskDragon 605ポイント606ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                              I personally detested /r/IAMA because of how it became just another advertising soapbox

                                              I would say it is a fair tradeoff to have celebrities insert a plugin, so long that their AMA responses are engaging and genuine (which rarely happens without help from Victoria).

                                              [–]sheepsix 495ポイント496ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                              /r/IAmA going private is like a defensive wall being put up.

                                              You might say it's a ... rampart.

                                              [–]garyomarioSJW (Social Justice Warlock) 159ポイント160ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                              what a beautiful beautiful stretch.

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                                                  [–]MIKE_BABCOCK 237ポイント238ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                  Before Victoria, /r/iama was shit. It was just dumb, fake garbage. A lot of the time it was just dumb shit like "I have a bar of soap up my ass, AMA".

                                                  Even when it was real, it was hit or miss whether or not the famous person would understand how to use reddit. It's retarded when they only have an hour to do the ama and 50% of the time is spent trying to help them figure out how to reply...

                                                  At least with victoria it was legitimate and consistent. There's nothing more disappointing then seeing an AMA you like only to find out it was fake or suffered from technical issues.

                                                  [–]BENT_PENISSteroids, chest shaving, and starvation diets 50ポイント51ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                  I don't see how it's any different than celebrities appearing on talk shows and late night shows when they have a new project or work coming out. They show up, make an appearance, interact, and in exchange they get to mention what they're working on. It's just the way it works.

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                                                        [–]AMorpork 574ポイント575ポイント  (166子コメント)

                                                        Oh god, the mod solidarity thing wasn't a joke. /r/science is now private. (Edit: Screenshot in case it's reversed.)

                                                        We're at DramaCon 2 people. If /r/AskReddit goes dark we're going to be facing DramaCon 1 for the first time since MayMay June.

                                                        Edit: /r/movies is now dark as well. What a time to be alive. I am officially declaring DramaCon 1.5.

                                                        Edit 2: I just realized that /r/AskReddit won't go dark as the head mod is an admin. We need some new goalposts for DramaCon 1. /r/AdviceAnimals? I don't feel that /r/movies is enough to declare DramaCon 1.

                                                        EDIT 3: DRAMACON 0. THE RUSKIES ARE LAUNCHING THEIR FUCKING ROCKETS.

                                                        Edit 3: Guys, I don't even know. This has exceeded my wildest dreams.

                                                        /r/AskReddit, /r/IAmA, /r/movies, /r/circlejerk, /r/science, /r/history, /r/gaming, /r/law, /r/Art, /r/CrappyDesign, /r/spain (lol), /r/listentothis, /r/videos.

                                                        I really fear we've reached peak drama.

                                                        [–]dageshi [スコア非表示]  (20子コメント)

                                                        erm, /r/AskReddit is private for me... DramaCon 1 ?

                                                        [–]CANTSTOPMEFATTY [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

                                                        RED ALERT

                                                        We Are Now at Dramacon 10

                                                        IT'S HAPPENING!!!

                                                        [–]oh_bother(ﾉﾟOﾟ)╯ [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

                                                        Oh god, everyone split up and get to your shelters!

                                                        take this list:

                                                        22,92,74,27,29,56,70,42,101,34,55,0,Los Angeles Vault,68,39,43,8,53,106,17,11,6,69,112,77,15,21,3,108,12,76,87,24,13,36,19

                                                        and enter it here. Then find out Where you're going!

                                                        All the 53s with me... bring a screwdriver (._.)

                                                        [–]GamesWithArty [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                        The cornerstones of reddit and /r/all are crumbling

                                                        [–]SpeakLikeAChild04 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                         Shall we play a game? 

 Love to. How about global thermonuclear reddit war?

 Wouldn't you prefer a good game of chess?

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                                                          [–]Internets111Bush did 4/20 212ポイント213ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                          Inb4 Reddit-wide meltdown in a scale never seen before.

                                                          Also, RIP Voat servers again.

                                                          [–]HawkCawCawRemembering /r/buttcoin exists makes my day 115ポイント116ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                          hit them wit teh indubitably

                                                          do it /r/askreddit

                                                          do it now

                                                          Edit: This shit show has officially reached critical mass!

                                                          [–]LJWay [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

                                                          AskReddit just went dark.

                                                          [–]berlinbaer 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          should shut down AA so their shit overflows into the defaults..

                                                          MayMay June Two: Electric Boogaloo

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                                                            [–]MrEpicwill 41ポイント42ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                            Oh boy, this is getting juicier by the hour. Can't remember I had a SRD thread sorted by new, F5'ing every 2 minutes.

                                                            [–]TA_knight [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                                            Askreddit went down after all.

                                                            [–]Zoten [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                            As a statment on the treatment of moderators by Reddit administrators, as well as a lack of communication and proper moderation tools, /r/AskReddit has decided to go private for the time being. Please see this post in /r/ideasforaskreddit for more discussion.

                                                            This is too good

                                                            [–]ProtosegaYour Local Almost Politically Correct Redneck [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

                                                            Dramacon 1 time.

                                                            [–]scooterboo2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                            /r/gaming has gone private!

                                                            [–]Venne1138Literally Autistic. Please no yell at me [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                            /r/gaming is NOW DOWN

                                                            WE ARE CURRENTLY IN DRAMACON 1.0 PEOPLE

                                                            WE ASK YOU TO ALL REMAIN CALM

                                                            [–]nap_oleon [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                            /r/gaming is down now

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                                                              [–]jsmooth7Billionaires' Rights Activist 84ポイント85ポイント  (47子コメント)

                                                              There's some drama in this thread too.

                                                              [–]Admiral_PiettDo you want rebels? Because that's how you get rebels. 81ポイント82ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                              So who wants to make the "AMA Request: Victoria" thread?

                                                              [–]ANewMachine615 75ポイント76ポイント  (31子コメント)

                                                              /u/chooter is actively replying in /r/centuryclub; not sure if everyone can see that or it's only the karma-rich among us. But no comments yet on the cause, just lots of "thank you" (it's an appreciation thread).

                                                              [–]lcecap 83ポイント84ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                                              Yeah, us plebs can't see that.

                                                              [–]PlayMp1 224ポイント225ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                              I literally need just under 800 more karma to be in CenturyClub. Fuck.

                                                              [–]FellKnight 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              shadowbanned for implying that you'd like some upvotes /s

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                                                                    [–]Oxus007Recreationally Offended 295ポイント296ポイント  (91子コメント)

                                                                    There's no drama party like a karmanaut party.

                                                                    Bold move taking on the Admins head on like this.

                                                                    [–]IDontKnowHowToPM 232ポイント233ポイント  (29子コメント)

                                                                    Karmanaut has always been pretty vocal when he disagrees with admin decisions. There was one time a couple of months back where he had a laundry list of complaints about the site's decisions and priorities. I don't remember where it was, though.

                                                                    edit: Thanks to /u/bethlookner for providing the links! Here and here

                                                                    [–]bethlooknerask me about the telenovela I'm writing 163ポイント164ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                    Here you go: 1 2

                                                                    I kinda love /u/karmanaut. If there was a mod union, he'd be our leader.

                                                                    [–]IDontKnowHowToPM 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                    That's the one! Can't believe it was only a month ago.

                                                                    [–]bethlooknerask me about the telenovela I'm writing 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    The admins like throwing the metasphere bones. At least that's what I want to believe.

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                                                                          [–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERKCaballero Blanco 98ポイント99ポイント  (58子コメント)

                                                                          well, what're they gonna do? shadowban him for whining?

                                                                          [–]NurglingsWould Jesus support US taxes on Bitcoin earnings? 155ポイント156ポイント  (54子コメント)

                                                                          Could you imagine if they did? Reddit would have to decide who it hats on more: the admins or Karmanaut.

                                                                          [–]alexanderwales 179ポイント180ポイント  (41子コメント)

                                                                          Definitely the admins. I think most of the common people have no idea who karmanaut is.

                                                                          [–]boushveg 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          Yea, the day when even big mods are not safe from shadowban would be the beginning of end of reddit.

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                                                                                [–]mrtman327I'm insecure about a lot of things, butt sex is not one of them. 283ポイント284ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                                Normally I just sit back and laugh at mod/admin drama, but I'm genuinely sad by this. I'm sure the admins had their reasons, but I really loved Victoria. Oh well. 😕

                                                                                [–]Dargus007 120ポイント121ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                I'm there with you. I thought SRD had hardened me with an armor of disconnected smug superiority, but I'm really upset to see Victoria go.

                                                                                I wonder what power the AMA mods have here. Do celeb AMAs generate revenue for reddit (maybe in terms of spike traffic)??

                                                                                [–]Arrivance 40ポイント41ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                reddit has an app dedicated to iAMA, it's pretty damn important

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                                                                                    [–]TheForrestFire 424ポイント425ポイント  (230子コメント)

                                                                                    I don't understand why the Jesse Jackson AMA would be blamed on Victoria? But some shit had to have gone down to justify Victoria getting fired with no warning.

                                                                                    Edit: After kn0thing's response, I'm a little worried we won't ever find out why she was fired. Hopefully /u/kn0thing will go into a little more detail somewhere visible now that the thread has been locked.

                                                                                    [–]lurker093287h 255ポイント256ポイント  (74子コメント)

                                                                                    Yeah that was maybe not even in the top 5 most disastrous ama's, it doesn't seem on the face of it that there was anything she could've done about that and don't people usually work through a period after they're leaving or have an announcement at least. This looks weird as hell and karmanaht seems genuinely hurt aswell.

                                                                                    Has reddit 'let go' other high profile employees lately?

                                                                                    Edit: somebody on voat (yeah I know) says

                                                                                    I can confirm that the guests were not given a heads-up about this either. Talked to Paul Elio last night and everything seemed golden for the AMA today. This seems to have come out of nowhere.

                                                                                    and karmanaut says

                                                                                    It's not a matter of brinksmanship, it's that we honestly can't function the same way without Victoria. They knocked down a load-bearing wall in the House of /r/IAmA

                                                                                    What is going on here?

                                                                                    [–]techsupport_rekall 162ポイント163ポイント  (68子コメント)

                                                                                    Because sometimes terrible decisions are made without things making sense; in one version you might designate a scapegoat that's done nothing but be loyal.

                                                                                    I do not know that this is what happened here, but I've heard of stupider things happening.

                                                                                    [–]mach-2Ask me for my LGBT mafia pilot script. Seriously. 126ポイント127ポイント  (58子コメント)

                                                                                    I think at this point, whatever led to the firing is going to throw users for a loop. I mean everyone is saying how much they loved her and how much of a pleasant soul she was and I agree, she did seem quite pleasant. BUT....

                                                                                    We have to wait to find out, if any, the official reason for her firing before people start taking up arms.

                                                                                    [–]Jacques_R_Estard5, 6, 7, 8, I used this hand to masturbate 55ポイント56ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                                    Can you imagine what would happen if it turns out she's being fired for sexually harassing a colleague?

                                                                                    [–]ImmortalSanchez 138ポイント139ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                                                                    People really seemed to like unidan before his banning. I liked Victoria, I suppose, but I think it would be funny if it turns out she was massively breaking site rules or something

                                                                                    [–]techsupport_rekall 66ポイント67ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                    Yeah, I'm kind of genuinely startled by this because it's got that kind of heady portentous smell on it, like coconut oil and ballpark salt. But I don't feel a need to get pitchforky about it yet, there's a lot of variables that need to be untangled.

                                                                                    The timing and previous dumbass decisions by reddit makes the Jackson AMA the likely vector for the drama, but there's not a lot of proof yet.

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                                                                                          [–]praline_pecans 60ポイント61ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                          "They can't just take the sub... Can they?"

                                                                                          lol. Where do people get the idea that a subreddit is a fortress even against admins?

                                                                                          [–]PhoenixAvenger 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                          Especially /r/iama. Didn't they already confiscate the subreddit from the old top-mod that wanted to completely shut down the subreddit?

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                                                                                            [–]davidreiss666The Infamous Entity 1065ポイント1066ポイント  (214子コメント)

                                                                                            It wasn't a mod that was fired. Reddit as a company let an admin go: /u/chooter / Victoria. She helped set up most of the highly visible AMA threads. Not just at /r/IAMA but also at /r/Books, /r/Science, /r/Food, etc.

                                                                                            She was a great admin.

                                                                                            Edit: /r/History has gone private in solidarity with /r/IAMA, /r/Science, /r/Movies and other subreddits now.

                                                                                            Edit2: /r/AskReddit, /r/Art, /r/Videos, /r/listentothis, and others as well.

                                                                                            [–]DoctorFahrenheit 1064ポイント1065ポイント  (66子コメント)

                                                                                            They dropped the one admin reddit actually liked? Classic reddit.

                                                                                            [–]davidreiss666The Infamous Entity 319ポイント320ポイント  (62子コメント)

                                                                                            Well, there are a few others we like. /u/deimorz and /u/krispykrackers are well liked. But there are not a lot of admins that regularly talk to users.

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                                                                                              [–]niels900000verified popcorn eating human 128ポイント129ポイント  (61子コメント)

                                                                                              Reddit as a company let an admin go: /u/chooter [1] / Victoria.

                                                                                              As in, they fired him/her? Or am I wrong?

                                                                                              [–]PrivateAccount-2568I have strong believes 74ポイント75ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                                                                              She was apparently "let go".

                                                                                              [–]Christoph_BlocherWas here before the Jackdaw incident 139ポイント140ポイント  (23子コメント)

                                                                                              Yes, being "let go" is a nice way of saying they were fired.

                                                                                              [–]PrivateAccount-2568I have strong believes 81ポイント82ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                                                                              It can also be used when someone's laid off, so I'm just going to stick with this wording unless something official is announced.

                                                                                              [–]Roez [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                                              Perhaps slightly pedantic since people often interchange terms, but laid off is an actual legal term and literally means you are not let go for cause.

                                                                                              Laid off is essentially the company saying it wants to keep you working, but doesn't have the work for you (whether they lack money, whatever reason, is irrelevant) and hence has to terminate your employment. It might and often is effectively permanent, but it's an important distinction from just letting someone go. Laid off is for a reason other than the employee's fault (not for cause). Let go (fired) is basically the term used when it is the employee's fault (for cause).

                                                                                              The reason for the distinction is because there are different consequences. People might not realize this, but if you get fired for cause you might not qualify for unemployment benefits or other State/Federal and maybe even corporate benefits.

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                                                                                                    [–]davidreiss666The Infamous Entity 179ポイント180ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                                                                                    Firing may be the wrong word here. Laid off or let go may be a nicer way to describe it. I wouldn't want to say she was fired, as that often carries the implication that the person deserved it. And /u/chooter didn't deserve to be let go.

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                                                                                                      [–]logicatch 359ポイント360ポイント  (36子コメント)

                                                                                                      Motherfuck, they canned Victoria? She was great! I tried my best to avoid the whole Ellen Pao shit show, but this pisses me off.

                                                                                                      [–]xSepulcherx 58ポイント59ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                      The AMAs that she did were exponentially better than the ones before she was doing her thing. I'd really like to know why they let her go because she definitely contributed a lot of high quality content to this site as well as did a lot to improve its image.

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                                                                                                        [–]WorldOneWon 59ポイント60ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                        chooter was awesome.

                                                                                                        /r/iama will literally not be the same now

                                                                                                        [–]eonOneDiamonds, gold, white people[S] 52ポイント53ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                                                                                        My bad, I wasn't aware she was an admin.

                                                                                                        [–]dirtyrogue 104ポイント105ポイント  (24子コメント)

                                                                                                        Only admins work for Reddit, mods are volunteers.

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                                                                                                          [–]teknomonk [スコア非表示]  (17子コメント)

                                                                                                          /r/Iama - 8,521,238 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/science - 8,595,726 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/movies - 7,662,117 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/circlejerk - 254,505 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/gaming - 8,022,320 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/history - 3,431,562 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/art - 3,256,241 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/crappydesign - 189,355 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/askreddit - 8,917,673 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/sexwithbears - 233,144 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/law - 40,776 subscribers

                                                                                                          r/listentothis 1 - 3,354,651 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/PaoMustResign/ - 7,535 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/spain - 5,829 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/splitdepthgifs - 41,023 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/PiratesoftheCaribbean - 323 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/ienjoybathing - 124,835 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/htgawm - 3,311 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/videos - 8,081,529 subscribers

                                                                                                          /r/de_IAmA - 66,302 subscribers

                                                                                                          r/starcitizen - 51,965 subscribers

                                                                                                          losses so far

                                                                                                          [–]WontReply 1783ポイント1784ポイント  (304子コメント)

                                                                                                          Karmanaut, admin bashing, defaultS gone private, lack of information leading to unsubstantiated speculating and conspiracies. + And now Voat!!!

                                                                                                          This is gonna get big, what a fabulous month its been for subredditdrama.

                                                                                                          I'm searching for answers about how to feel here BUT SOME FUCKWIT CHANGED THE FLIPPING SEARCH LAYOUT

                                                                                                          [–]ZyphxionSocial Justice Dragoon 1023ポイント1024ポイント  (62子コメント)

                                                                                                          OH WHAT A MONTH

                                                                                                          WHAT A LOVELY MONTH

                                                                                                          [–]MORMON_EXTREMIST 209ポイント210ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                                          YOU WILL POP ETERNAL, SHINY AND BUTTERY.

                                                                                                          [–]MephistopholeesWay, 'ey, pop an' flow! 145ポイント146ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                                          LINK ME!

                                                                                                          LINK HIM!

                                                                                                          [–]MORMON_EXTREMIST 128ポイント129ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                          WE ARE CORN BOYS! CORN BOYS! HALF-POPPED KARMAKRAZEE CORN BOYS! AND TODAY WE'RE GOIN' TO /r/IAmA! /r/IAmA!

                                                                                                          [–]ZyphxionSocial Justice Dragoon 58ポイント59ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          Do not, my friends, become addicted to butter. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!

                                                                                                          [–]cptal 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                          http://www.amazon.com/Kernel-Seasons-Spritzer-Seasoned-2-5-Ounce/dp/B00474GFEA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1435863674&sr=8-7&keywords=butter+spray

                                                                                                          Boom. Butter spray

                                                                                                          [–]MORMON_EXTREMIST 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          colorless butter spray

                                                                                                          MEDIOCRE!

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                                                                                                            [–]Importantguy123Cabal call operator here, please wait as I count your shekels 83ポイント84ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                            Don't forget to pray twords San Francisco 3 times a day throughout Dramadan.

                                                                                                            [–]Nerfman2227 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                            IF REDDIT IS GONNA DIE, IT'S GONNA DIE HISTORIC ON THE DOWNVOTE ROAD

                                                                                                            [–]Ravenguardian17Gay Commie Sunni Overlord 133ポイント134ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                            I post,

                                                                                                            I get downvoted,

                                                                                                            I REPOST AGAIN.

                                                                                                            [–]yacubianshenanigans 390ポイント391ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                                                                                            GODDAMNIT I was literally seconds away from shitposting that

                                                                                                            [–]mach-2Ask me for my LGBT mafia pilot script. Seriously. 170ポイント171ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                                            Sorry. The shitpost stock market is cruel to the slower trigger. If you want to tango in this caliber of memes, you have to become a lion in this den of lions.

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                                                                                                              [–]haddock420 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                              What a time to be alive.

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                                                                                                                [–]aphoenixrampant blizzard shilling 584ポイント585ポイント  (143子コメント)

                                                                                                                This is the saddest drama though.

                                                                                                                She was a shining light in IAMA and her being let go is something that I definitely want to understand.

                                                                                                                I got legitimately choked up reading that she was gone (similar to when i found out that alienth and cupcake1713 were gone).

                                                                                                                I don't want to be one of those people that says "this is the beginning of the end of reddit" but what in the actual fuck is going on over there?

                                                                                                                Edit: guys, c'mon. I understand that it would be crazy to feel choked up about people that weren't my friends, being forced out of their jobs. Do you think it's possible that I have interacted with the people who have left more than you or differently from you and have different feelings based on my different experience? Do you have reddit friends, people that you've met here that you wish well because of your common interests in your niche subreddit? That's me and these guys. I've interacted with each of them outside of reddit; they're not just [A]s to me.

                                                                                                                [–]cupcake1713 126ポイント127ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                <3

                                                                                                                [–]MimesAreShiteTITRC IS LITERALLY DRACO 54ポイント55ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                                                Wait, when did alienth leave?

                                                                                                                [–]aphoenixrampant blizzard shilling 73ポイント74ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                                                                A few months ago. Check out the about page to see how many of the old admins are gone now.

                                                                                                                [–]MimesAreShiteTITRC IS LITERALLY DRACO 61ポイント62ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                                                Oh man, chromadoke, kemitche and bitcrunch are gone too. That's like half the old guard gone.

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                                                                                                                  [–]DalekJast 160ポイント161ポイント  (44子コメント)

                                                                                                                  CUPCAKE IS GONE?!

                                                                                                                  [–]MimesAreShiteTITRC IS LITERALLY DRACO 127ポイント128ポイント  (38子コメント)

                                                                                                                  She actually became a mod here for a bit after leaving reddit. Not sure what happened to that.

                                                                                                                  [–]cupcake1713 520ポイント521ポイント  (37子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Kept getting idiots PMing me about how much I suck/was cancer for modding here. Ain't nobody got time for that.

                                                                                                                  [–]CaptainMemer 79ポイント80ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                                                                  It's somewhat commendable that you still use this website even when you're no longer employed here. I used to work at a Whataburger as a kid and haven't eaten there since.

                                                                                                                  [–]cupcake1713 134ポイント135ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                                                                  The friendships that I made over the years here are more important to me than all of the stuff that went down over the past 8 months, so I still enjoy posting/commenting in a few subreddits.

                                                                                                                  [–]airmandanStop. Think. Atheism. [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                  That time we got drunk and tried to play a turn-based 16-bit video game via FaceTime and an iPad was...well honestly I don't know how I remember that given how smashed I was but, it was certainly memorable.

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                                                                                                                    [–]MimesAreShiteTITRC IS LITERALLY DRACO 85ポイント86ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                    Fair play. Can't say I blame you.

                                                                                                                    Happy you still have the cupcake flair, for it is the best flair.

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                                                                                                                          [–]websterandy42Marxist-Cabalist 75ポイント76ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                                                          Dramadan? Dramakkah? Popsgiving?

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                                                                                                                            [–]shiruken09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 84ポイント85ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                            /r/science is now a private subreddit

                                                                                                                            Due to an unexpected Reddit administrative personnel change /r/science is temporarily private so that we can resolve the situation, our apologizes for any disruption this may cause.

                                                                                                                            /r/science actually hosts a ton of AMAs and I believe Victoria was key to organizing and contacting many of the participants. The mods simply don't have the resources or the official clout of a Reddit admin when it comes to making formal invitations. Losing her so unexpectedly likely threw a wrench into many of those upcoming AMAs especially if she was the only point of contact.

                                                                                                                            [–]DoctorFahrenheit 112ポイント113ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                                                            This is going to be the best summer for drama ever.

                                                                                                                            [–]apopheniac1989social justice wannabe [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                            I joined this sub the week before the fattening. Looks like I picked the right time.

                                                                                                                            I'm gonna miss Victoria though. :(

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                                                                                                                              [–]Christoph_BlocherWas here before the Jackdaw incident 100ポイント101ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                              The /r/circlejerk response is absolutely brilliant.

                                                                                                                              this time to restructure our process for jerking.

                                                                                                                              My sides

                                                                                                                              I can't wait for restructured jerking to resume.

                                                                                                                              [–]slowclapcitizenkaneHow can Voat be real if its PayPal account isn't real? 35ポイント36ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                              They shot themselves in the food with this.

                                                                                                                              R.I.P. in peace, popcorn.

                                                                                                                              [–]perry_cox 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                              So they build an app specifically for Iama and then can the person that makes it all work without telling anyone. Makes literally zero sense.

                                                                                                                              [–]Christoph_BlocherWas here before the Jackdaw incident 329ポイント330ポイント  (67子コメント)

                                                                                                                              First, we had the shit subs stage a revolt (FPH etc. ), now reddits real life line has gone private.

                                                                                                                              Some are thinking of joining in, as a top mod from /r/science writes:

                                                                                                                              I personally feel like shutting /r/science[3] down as well, that's how much of a bad taste this leaves.

                                                                                                                              And I couldn't agree more with that.

                                                                                                                              Interestingly enough this hasn't spawned the amount of drama yet that the FPH banning did in the same amount of time....

                                                                                                                              This seems to be pretty serious month for reddit.\

                                                                                                                              Edit: They went through with it. /r/science is private now. I'm astounded. The shitfest beyond the curtains must be in full swing.

                                                                                                                              [–]ANewMachine615 88ポイント89ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                                                              Oh man, can you imagine the shitfit if all the defaults just went private one day? And given the moderator dictatorship, there's really little to nothing they can do about it.

                                                                                                                              [–]Christoph_BlocherWas here before the Jackdaw incident 93ポイント94ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                                                                              Except for taking administrative action, i.E. removing those mods. But imagine the backlash. Voat better be having a quadrillion servers on standby, cause if this shit blows, they'll be the hub for reddits hatred.

                                                                                                                              [–]andrew2209A very British Teenager 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                              If the default subreddits lost their moderation teams, it would definitely hurt reddit.

                                                                                                                              [–]Christoph_BlocherWas here before the Jackdaw incident 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                              Looks like we're heading for that territory now boys. HARD HATS BEYOND THIS POINT.

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                                                                                                                                    [–]Gilgamesh- 39ポイント40ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                                    /r/Science has now followed /r/IAmA into being private.

                                                                                                                                    [–]Christoph_BlocherWas here before the Jackdaw incident 32ポイント33ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                                    Damn. Holy shit. We've gone from FPH users posting pao nazi memes to /r/all to moderators setting high profile and well locked after subs private. Explain this in a blog post.... There's either going to be a massive mod banwave and installment of new ones, or...

                                                                                                                                    What can the reddit admins actually do right now?

                                                                                                                                    [–]techsupport_rekall 177ポイント178ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                                                                                                    I go when /r/askhistorians goes, because I fuckin' love that place.

                                                                                                                                    [–]georgeguy007/r/Badhistory ambassador 66ポイント67ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                                                                                    Me with /r/badhistory

                                                                                                                                    [–]Christoph_BlocherWas here before the Jackdaw incident 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                                    Well, depending on the fallout and it's management by the reddit admins, it could go private out of sympathy.

                                                                                                                                    It's in the hands of the reddit admins and the mods of the individual subs now. Basically, the more that depended on her, the more incentive they would have to stage protest.

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                                                                                                                                      [–]coldblade2000 40ポイント41ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                                      The thread is literally 45 minutes old. Also there was no build up, it happened out of nowhere. FPH had a drama wave for over a month before the ban

                                                                                                                                      [–]CollumMcJingleballsThe Electric Ellen Pao Kool-Aid Acid Test 60ポイント61ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                                      Reddit's going to realize letting mods become power mods with the default subreddits under their belt was a bad decision. They put the companies most attractive assets in the hands of unpaid citizens doing it as a hobby.

                                                                                                                                      If they all decide to go private in protest, they could fuck up a lot of Reddit.

                                                                                                                                      [–]Xelif 32ポイント33ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                                      I agree with you, but reddit's entire business model relies on unpaid labor - and the arm's-length plausible deniability of unsavory content (and removal thereof) that comes with it.

                                                                                                                                      Even if reddit didn't go broke after hiring dozens of paid moderators, imagine the backlash when a controversial post is removed from r/politics...

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                                                                                                                                          [–]gizmo1024 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                                          "We were prepared to handle today's (and upcoming AMAs) -- we'd setup AMA@reddit.com and prepped a team"

                                                                                                                                          [–]Admiral_Cuntfart 60ポイント61ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                                                                          Since we're not given any info here's two theories:

                                                                                                                                          One: she is the scapegoat for some PR nightmare reddit is facing.

                                                                                                                                          Two: she did something really shitty that we don't know about, I just remember how the whole unidan drama unfolded, it also started exactly like this.

                                                                                                                                          [–]FreakInThePen 29ポイント30ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                                                                          /r/iama and /r/science are both dark. Who's next?

                                                                                                                                          [–]DoctorHopper 28ポイント29ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                                          Damn it, I wanted to see the Michael Emerson AMA.

                                                                                                                                          [–]Importantguy123Cabal call operator here, please wait as I count your shekels 97ポイント98ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                                                                                                                          Now this is actually some drama i can kinda get behind.. I mean, even though the Jesse Jackson AMA was a flaming trainwreak the woman has hundreds of other successful AMA's under her belt so why would that be necessary? Also the lack of communication to the AMA subs seems really suspicious to me...

                                                                                                                                          [–]NurglingsWould Jesus support US taxes on Bitcoin earnings? 41ポイント42ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                                          Everyone had to know how that AMA was going to go which makes me think this isn't related to it.

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                                                                                                                                            [–]Mr_TulipI need a beer. 97ポイント98ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                                                                            Holy shitballs, why on earth would they fire Victoria? I thought she did a pretty okay job of facilitating these (hugely beneficial to both reddit and the people trying to promote whatever they're talking about) AMAs.

                                                                                                                                            [–]bethlooknerask me about the telenovela I'm writing 56ポイント57ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                                                            That, and the fact that they had to pay someone to do that job. The site has a community management team of what, 5 people? reddit doesn't seem to shell out money or do anything unless they absolutely have to. See: banning jailbait, FPH, the Fappening and a couple of other things I can't recall.

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                                                                                                                                              [–]marckshark 52ポイント53ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                                              aww she was my last secret santa match -- good luck with everything, victoria

                                                                                                                                              [–]Digitaldude555Deuueaugh 75ポイント76ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                                              I am gonna get popcorn lung from all this drama.

                                                                                                                                              [–]techsupport_rekall 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                                              Remember to floss, and don't pick husks out of your teeth in public, that shit's just nasty.

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                                                                                                                                                [–]LaboratoryManiac [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                You can't spell "drama" without "AMA."

                                                                                                                                                [–]WorldOneWon 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                Hey /u/eonOne,

                                                                                                                                                For even buttery drama, looks like the out of the loop thread has been locked!

                                                                                                                                                No one can complain to kn0thing in that particular thread

                                                                                                                                                [–]tlh053Show my flair on this subreddit. It looks like: [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                I didn't think anything could outdo FPH being banned. I was wrong. I honestly can't even fully comprehend how big of a clustefuck this is.

                                                                                                                                                [–]CantaloupeCamperOFFICIAL SRS liaison, next meetup is 11pm at the Hilton 118ポイント119ポイント  (39子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                the admins really should have at least talked to us

                                                                                                                                                That's a bummer, but I'm not sure talking to some mods, or even hinting at actions that might indicate that they were going to fire an employee (who maybe didn't know) would have been appropriate either....

                                                                                                                                                Dealing with an employee where you have legal obligations > dealing with some mods no matter how much traffic their sub brings in.

                                                                                                                                                [–]techsupport_rekall 173ポイント174ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                Might not be appropriate, but they could have put their noggins together and helped their flagship fucking subs wriggle through what's going to be a logistical nightmare. Like, fuck, a polite lie. "Hey, guys, Victoria is going to be unavailable so we're going to blah-blah-blah" instead of throw people under the bus.

                                                                                                                                                AMA is supposed to be their glorious PR face to the world, and they just slashed it right across the eyeball.

                                                                                                                                                [–]CantaloupeCamperOFFICIAL SRS liaison, next meetup is 11pm at the Hilton 65ポイント66ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                AMA is supposed to be their glorious PR face to the world

                                                                                                                                                I think like a lot of reddit.... that just happens to be... they don't actually have much of a clue what is going on or what to do with anything.

                                                                                                                                                Reddit is neat tech, and they can do tech, community is hard and at reddit I'm not sure anyone has a clue how that works, maybe less so now.

                                                                                                                                                I'm not surprised they're dorking it up a bit, and they are. But the line I quoted is also absurd.

                                                                                                                                                [–]techsupport_rekall 64ポイント65ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                Oh it is, but Reddit promoted AMAs specifically as their rally flag, to the point that there's a separate AMA mobile app. This behavior is remarkable. Mods are just mods, but holy shit, they might at least throw a bone of assistance to the mods they themselves put on a pedestal as their ambassadors.

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                                                                                                                                                  [–]lenaro 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                  Seriously, these fucks at reddit HQ don't care at all about the mods that do all of their work for them - to the point that they don't even give a shit enough to add mod tools from the 21st century.

                                                                                                                                                  Like reddit's entire public face is curated by volunteer mods using awful software, for free.

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                                                                                                                                                    [–]notatallexpected 76ポイント77ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                    What kind of lemonade-stand-level enterprise is this website though? Where's the backup plan? It's their deal if they want to fire someone, but someone's either going to have to be designated to do Victoria's job or this whole assisted AMA thing is not going to happen anymore.

                                                                                                                                                    [–]CantaloupeCamperOFFICIAL SRS liaison, next meetup is 11pm at the Hilton 50ポイント51ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                    Man look at the site... they have no plan.

                                                                                                                                                    Reddit is cool tech and they can administer tech. If you look at the blog posts you can see them announce stuff ... and it is clear they're not really aware of what is up much of the time.

                                                                                                                                                    Managing a community is hard. This is a standard pattern, communities rise, then fall, and everyone runs to the next cool site.

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                                                                                                                                                        [–]Etra [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                        It would be hilarious if /r/Gonewild went private too.

                                                                                                                                                        [–]Boleyn278 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                        /u/kn0thing just chimed in

                                                                                                                                                        http://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq6ekp

                                                                                                                                                        [–]morningtoncrescenter [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                        Women and children first, please, we're going down.

                                                                                                                                                        AskReddit is down too.

                                                                                                                                                        [–]Triapod [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                        Will /r/SubredditDrama go dank, too?

                                                                                                                                                        [–]SRS_IS_GOD 77ポイント78ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                        Victoria's secret

                                                                                                                                                        [–]goldenhearted [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                                                        I usually have to read drama hours after it happens so seeing it all unfold in front of me in real-time is surreal.

                                                                                                                                                        Jesus, even /r/movies is out.

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