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[–]foldingcouch 180ポイント181ポイント  (18子コメント)

I was hoping that when more information came out about the ban that it wouldn't look as heavy-handed and stupid as it had, but this just confirms my worst fears. This is a terrible decision, because it's retroactively punishing someone that is not a danger to the community, does nothing to promote community safety, and may actually reduce overall safety of players in Magic tournaments.

The official reasoning is that they don't want players to "feel unsafe." Note that they use "feel" unsafe, as opposed to actually "be" unsafe. Zach Jesse is no threat to anyone. He has a conviction, he served the sentence imposed by law, and the courts decided that he was free to continue on with his life given the conditions of his sentence. The law has decided that he's no threat. That doesn't matter, though, because people might feel unsafe knowing that a convicted sex offender could be at a Magic tournament. So he's banned.

BUT WAIT, surely if the goal is to make people feel safe, they'd institute some kind of blanket policy that says something like "nobody that is a registered sex offender can play in sanctioned tournaments," right? Nope, wrong, no comment. WotC is not doing anything proactive to actually address player safety. There's no policy, no measures in place, no plan. All they did was ban someone who has spent a decade attempting to rebuild his life after a bad decision that wasn't a threat to anyone. If you're a sex offender, carry on attending tournaments and playing with kids, just don't draw attention to yourself by doing something like winning, or being open about your past and attempting to atone for your sins.

This decision does nothing more than punish someone for something they did a decade ago that has no relationship to actual player safety. In fact, if anything this stance is making players less safe, because if anyone in Magic happens to be a sex offender, they are definitely not going to disclose their status so WotC can have an accurate understanding of actual player safety concerns and develop a meaningful policy to enhance player security. This just forces it further away from the light of day.

Everything about this screams "irrational knee-jerk reaction," and WotC deserves to be raked over the coals for it. I sincerely hope Zach has some legal recourse that he can exercise, because this policy is both short-sighted and dangerous for the community.

[–]Not_Pictured 14ポイント15ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'm sure he has no legal recourse, we bitching about it are his only recourse.

[–]belisaurius 18ポイント19ポイント  (4子コメント)

There's an argument that could be made about defamation and damage to character. He could, if he wanted to, drag this whole situation through the courts. I doubt he will though, since it appears the reformed-rapist and felon is ACTUALLY THE MOST PROFESSIONAL AND MORAL PERSON IN THIS WHOLE FIASCO /rant

[–]youmustchooseaname 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

based on what law? Convicted felon is not a protected class. Beyond that DCI's ToS states they can get rid of you for whatever reason.

[–]belisaurius 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Since I'm not a lawyer, I can't give you a law. As you noted, it wouldn't be criminal discrimination (since felons aren't protected). I do know, however, that a competent lawyer can most certainly find grounds for a civil suit. Defamation is a really rough concept in this country, and it could very easily go one way or the other.

[–]Aweq 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How are libel/slander laws in the US? As far as I understand states such as the UK allow people to aggressively sue based on slight of character.

(I am from neither of those countries, so I might be mistaken.)

[–]niknight_ml 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To prevail in a defamation suit, Zach would need to prove that what Drew said was false.

[–]SpliffyYoda 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Remember Prerelease is coming.. Speak with your wallets.

[–]niknight_ml 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The stores have already paid for their prerelease kits. If you boycott the prerelease, you aren't hurting WotC, you're hurting your LGS.

[–]xahhfink6 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How do I get my wallet to say "Hasbro's decisions are ruining an otherwise-great game for its players"?

[–]mtg_liebestod 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

WotC is not doing anything proactive to actually address player safety. There's no policy, no measures in place, no plan. All they did was ban someone who has spent a decade attempting to rebuild his life after a bad decision that wasn't a threat to anyone.

No, they banned someone who upset Twitter and would've created bad PR if he had continued success in competitive Magic.

That's the real, sad cynical story here: It's not merely that they aren't serious about making Magic safe, but that they're simply afraid of what might happen if Gawker starts writing articles about convicted rapists (which imo is a fair label) achieving success in this hobby community. Even the SJWs should be unhappy about this one. This is worse than an "irrational knee-jerk reaction" - it's in fact a very-calculated reaction meant to address a perceived threat to Wizards' branding.

I like Matt Ling's tweet here, though: "If WOTC knew about PR, they'd know that banning ZJ would cause 95% community to defend a convicted rapist. That looks bad." Yep.

[–]mustang209 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

The decision was purely for PR reasons. Could you imagine a 24 hour news network getting a hold of this story and twisting to where it wouldn't only tarnish the name of Wizards, but Hasbro. People see things based on what the media shows them. In fact when I tell people I play magic they ask isn't that the game people play where their ass crack shows? ( referring to the "ass-crack guy")

If Hasbro didn't do something "proactive" it would have been seen as them bring cool with people who have committed a sexual assault.

I would be surprised if wizards adds a little box to check for Gran Prix registration saying "Not a sex offender"

[–]Garrub 118ポイント119ポイント  (2子コメント)

On the bright side, Zach never has to deal with MTGO v4 issues again.

[–]Gaming_Loser 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think there is enough money he could be compensated for having to play that version.

[–]jMS_44 46ポイント47ポイント  (2子コメント)

Honestly I lost a lot of respect torwards WotC/Hasbro for this. I may understand that Zach criminal past shows magic community in kind of bad light, especially if it was publicized so widely, but this man done bad thing, this is under any question, but he was punished for it and undergone resocialization most likely. What was done here is to presume that you cann't change after that and once you're a bad man, you will stay a bad man forever and because of that you can't have cool hobbies and act like a normal guy right now and should be excluded from all these stuff.

So now if we want to compete in a Competetive REL event we have to distribute our files to WotC so they can confirm we don't have any criminal past of any kind?

[–]Pascal3000 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

You realize one of the game's greatest and most vocal embassadors, also a magic Hall of Famer, has a known criminal past?

I realise drug dealing and sex offenses are different and one subject is significantly more touchy than the other, but i feel like anyone who has legally served for his crimes and is trying to work out his life for the better deserves a second chance.

The Magic community has always been about being accepting and offering a niche to social outcasts. It seems highly hypocritical to me to drop these ideals just because some twitter/reddit circlejerk decided he should continue to be guilty for the rest of his life.

[–]mtg_liebestod 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So now if we want to compete in a Competetive REL event we have to distribute our files to WotC so they can confirm we don't have any criminal past of any kind?

Nah, only if it's a high-level event and you're getting close to being on-camera in a feature match.

[–]Rakyn87 66ポイント67ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know Jesse personally, but he has handled this with way more professionalism then I could say WOTC or Hasbro has.

I'm not gonna be "that guy" that calls for a boycot or whatever, but I do wish there were some way I could show my support for him. What has happened to him is flat out wrong.

When a person who was involved in the Criminal Justice System is able to get their life together and contribute to society, they should be rewarded, not punished. What an absolute sham.

[–]maxwellb 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Personally I'm certainly not boycotting anything, but the lack of transparency and apparent caving to a twitter mob does take some significant shine off the hobby.

[–]zajoba 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is disgusting. Picture the smile on Drew Levin's smug fucking face right now.

Congrats WOTC and warrior of justice Levin. You've banned an active and positively contributing member of the community. All this does is set the precedent that if you stir up enough of a witch hunt, WOTC will panic and hand down a heavier punishment than people who have been cheating for years, on-camera, and repeat offenders who come back and are banned again.

[–]skipdog172 69ポイント70ポイント  (1子コメント)

This whole thing just has me furious at wotc and Drew Levin.

We really need as many community figures as possible to come out and loudly proclaim their opposition to this decision.

It sets a terribly frightening precedent.

[–]SelfMadeMe 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let us not forget that Sheldon Menery, LSV & co were very quick to jump on the "ban the rapist fearmongering dramaqueen" bandwagon, as one can see when looking at their tweets, some of which can be found in the original thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/35q0yx/in_light_of_recent_discussion_a_post_by_zach_jesse/

[–]ta2 34ポイント35ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shame on WotC. Shame on Hasbro. Hopefully they will own up to their mistake.

[–]Darktidemage 48ポイント49ポイント  (16子コメント)

"I asked whether I could sell my collection or whether I could perhaps donate the cards in my collection to my friends’ accounts. I was told that I would not be allowed onto my account again"

This is fucking ludacris. You should own the MTGO cards the same as paper magic cards. When they ban you they don't confiscate your paper collection - but they make us pay FULL RETAIL for MTGO cards and then they can just vanish them at any moment?

Fuck that.

Selling my MTGO collection ASAP.

[–]Kerrus 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

it's ludicrous, yeah.

[–]kickdrive 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

There is probably some TOS buried somewhere that you agree to when you sign up.

[–]Raigeko13 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is. From /u/mtgnolaw 's comment from the other thread:

A friendly reminder: no matter how much time or money you've invested, Wizards of the Coast can shut down your MTGO account at any time, for any reason, and without providing you with any form of compensation. When you build a collection on MTGO, you do so at your own risk. This is just one of many excellent reasons to steer clear of it.

"... [WIZARDS] MAY, IN ITS SOLE DISCRETION AND WITHOUT NOTICE, TERMINATE YOUR ACCESS TO THE GAME AND GAME SERVICES, AND SUSPEND OR DEACTIVATE YOUR ACCOUNTS WITH NO LIABILITY TO IT RELATING THERETO."

[–]Niggga_Wtf_Is_JUICE 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah I agree, I have been thinking about selling and this is the final straw, just straight up stealing his collection.

[–]facep0lluti0n 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This whole week has been the last straw for me. Jesse getting arbitrarily banned, artist getting fired, no Duels on Android, etc. No way I'm giving hundreds of my hard-earned dollars into such a game when my money could go to cheaper hobbies or to support my career.

[–]Rakyn87 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you read further it states they are compensating him financially based on the worth of his cards, which he himself described as an "not unfair" amount.

That being said, this is still wrong, just not for that reason.

[–]Joemoose13 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I agree with you completely.

Just to clarify though, I do not use MTGO but I would like to ask, has anyone fully read the terms and agreement when you sign your account up? There could be something in there in the fine print that mentions something along the line of: "If your account gets banned, you release ownership of the cards in your account".

Either way, this is a huge fiasco on WotC and Hasbo's part IMO.

[–]worldchrisis 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You never have ownership of any digital objects associated with your account.

[–]Guido5770 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You probably don't own the account in the TOS.

[–]Blackout28 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This only confirms the fear many people have about investing hundreds or thousands of dollars into digital objects.

I expect some people will be selling their collections shortly after reading this.

[–]Akamesama 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It has been known info for quite some time that MTGO collections are not actually your property. There are some digital rights and ownership laws over in Europe that attempted and have helped out consumers but the United States and plenty on European countries lack such laws so companies can pull collections of music/games/etc as per their ELUA. It sucks and has stunted my interest in basically all digital content distribution, especially systems like MTGO.

[–]Darktidemage 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's "known" that you don't own it. But i've never seen it come into actual play before.

I felt like it was just that way for obscure legal purposes, not to actually snatch the collection away from a paying customer that bought it from you.

Seems like the worst possible move ever for trying to convince people to collect online cards.

[–]worldchrisis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't own anything connected to your MTGO account.

[–]youmustchooseaname 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nothing in your account is actually yours, aside from the actual account. I'd imagine this is the same in every other online game.

[–]Darktidemage 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

regardless of the fact it is "not actually mine" that doesn't mean they HAVE to take it away from you. They can still let you keep using it, sell it, transfer it. Instead they are just deleting it.

There is a difference between "I don't actually own it but I am in control of it" vs "It's now gone and i don't have it anymore".

One is acceptable. I don't own it - so if the server is blown up or melts I can't SUE wotc for my cards that got destroyed. This is an acceptable legal construct. But the other really isn't acceptable - they are flexing the "you don't own it" card at an individual player. They should never do that. They should say "you don't own it but you control it however you want, for life, as long as the server runs" that should be the promise they make to users.

And sure - they are thus LEGALLY ALLOWED to delete it or whatever. The question is "why would they actually do that just because they are legally allowed to do it"?

[–]desymond 74ポイント75ポイント  (23子コメント)

Man, Fuck Drew Levin.

[–]craven_trout 17ポイント18ポイント  (14子コメント)

I'll buy the shirt if you print them.

[–]Tezzerator 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Seconded.

[–]Rakyn87 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But then I'd have to decide if I wanted to wear that or my underground dojo keyboard cagefighter shirt.

[–]spawnoftheking 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

Same. XL. I like Navy blue or Caribbean blue. Let me know.

[–]desymond 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

Idk. Wearing them might get us banned.

[–]individual_throwaway 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I could imagine no greater badge of honor than being banned over calling out Drew Levin on a shirt.

[–]spawnoftheking 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Can't actually spell out Fuck, that's consider assault or something.

F&@$ Drew Levin though, that should be fine.

[–]desymond 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's still iffy territory though. What if Drew Levin begins to feel unsafe about our t-shirts? Caribbean blue can be an alarming color to some.

[–]Ice_Cold345 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey, it could be in Spring Green.

[–]spawnoftheking 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I will happily take my shirt off and exert physical prowess if we have to go that route.

Or turn it inside out. Whichever works for Wizards.

[–]ravenouscraving 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I suddenly want a shirt with a mildly offensive slogan that has something extremely offensive printed on the inside of it.

[–]Rakyn87 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trigger warnings please

[–]ChrisHeinonen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd love to see other players show up with "Free Zach Jesse" shirts at upcoming tourneys and wear them on camera. Just make sure not to show them off before the round starts.

[–]Huskeezee -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then wear it to tournaments and get banned for it.

[–]GoSuckOnACactus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well if you do that, you'll get banned by the DCI.

[–]zajoba 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Twitter is now protected, seems like he was just fine spewing horseshit a month ago as loud as he can, but now he's shrinking away?

[–]Cishet_Shitlord 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's all fun and games until you see the results.

[–]cardlackey 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I want one with a Hornet's Nest as the background.

[–]Deranged_Hermit 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

But don't fuck him without his consent, otherwise you'll get banned lifetime from Magic years later and Wizards will take away your MTGO collection.

[–]Cishet_Shitlord 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or just mark the date and try to do as much as possible in the next 10 years.

[–]impyshaz 39ポイント40ポイント  (1子コメント)

If the U.S. Government says you've paid your dues to society then I think you should be allowed to attend events open to the public.

[–]Akamesama 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Certainly WotC has the right to institute any non-discriminatory policies about attending tournaments they run or allowing access to their system. However, socially the US is very hostile towards ex-cons and this correlates very well with high recidivism rates (among other things) so it would be in everyone's best interest to be more accepting. In addition to that, there is a good argument that the confiscating of the MTGO account is a breach of 'good faith' purchases but if it were heard in the US I doubt that this would be a strong enough of a position.

[–]Sve7en 36ポイント37ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm impressed with how level headed he can be. Good on him for handling it like an adult at least. It's nice to hear he may get some compensation for his MTGO account, although it's going to be hard for him to produce content now...

[–]Raigeko13 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

You done fucked up Wizards. You done really fucked up.

[–]391835 63ポイント64ポイント  (19子コメント)

It sucks that someone was driven away from this great hobby because he made a mistake as a nineteen-year-old that he has paid his dues for. This is nothing but a PR move, despite what Wizards says. If they were really didn't think people who committed crimes in the past should be allowed to play on MTGO or at tournaments, they would do background checks on every player. We had the SCG articles pulled, and now we have this. It sucks that the Twitter mob has so much power over the community.

[–]ebEliminator 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

He's taking it a lot better than I would, I would be angry. Maybe he is too, but is better at handling it. This decision by WOTC is horseshit.

[–]SirSkidMark 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

He must have the anger management of a saint.

I'd be throwing stuff.

[–]Raigeko13 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd be fucking livid. I would be throwing such a bitch fit it would be insane.

[–]Dagan42 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

He should just get into competitive hearthstone.

[–]facep0lluti0n 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It would only cost him a fraction of what his MTGO account is probably worth.

[–]Vyraal1 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

So branding does trump over someone's life?

[–]BrunoVonUno 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's corperate america, for ya'.

[–]darthsword8 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

If this stands, than WoTC/ the DCI should be expected to go around and find ALL players with similar past transgression and revoke their ability to play. If he is the only one that this happens to, then this is just a fucked up attempt at persecuting someone who is actively making a difference in his community and move past this dark time in his life just as a show of force to say they are keeping the community and player base clean.

[–]Infersader 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

More and more I get the feeling this company is losing touch with reality. Just yesterday there was a post by Peter Mohrbacher about how their new [[Fascist Art Director]] basically fired him because he doesn't like artists using their own styles, something that Magic used to celebrate.

[–]MTGCardFetcher 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fascist Art Director - Gatherer, MC, ($)
[[cardname]] to call - not on gatherer = not fetchable

[–]nhogan1984 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Far more classy than WOTC has been. Zach, well done and Godspeed on your future endeavors.

[–]MrBolas 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is so sad. I'm sorry for this guy. If this part of my life was taken from me because of mistakes in my youth I would be heartbroken. I would go on obviously, but a piece of my self, personality, social circles, loves would be gone. If this is to be the judgment, exile, WOTC have some fucking balls and explain why the criminal justice system wasnt enough of a punishment for this guy. Shame.

[–]PiratePantsFace 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

The community should boycott channelfireball. They led this witch hunt. Levin may have started it, but channelfireball ran with it.

[–]ThisDamnSite 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I won't be buying any Origins content because of this and I invite people to do the same. A simple gesture to show WotC that we don't support this move.

[–]Tezzerator 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Before I boycott them I'd want to triple check the sources here. It was a month ago, and my memory's not perfect as to exactly who said what.

[–]Gotta_Gett 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Drew Levin plays for SCG now I think.

[–]Infersader 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly I already lost a lot of respect for them after so many of their employees came out and attacked Pascal, starting the whole Goyf situation.

[–]mtd14 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

This poor guy. It's not much, but I'll be boycotting MTGO until October unless he is unbanned. I usually draft few times a month, and it probably would have gone up since it's summer now. Oh well, CSGO is free even if I'm terrible at it.

[–]JaJaJalisco 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have a DUI. RIP Pro mtg aspirations :(

[–]jjness 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

When the NFL's handling of Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson's suspensions were news, people were up in arms and sights were set on Roger Gooddell. Now here's the same situation. People still buy tickets and merchandise to football games. People will still buy Magic cards. It disgusts me that for as much outrage as we have here, true action will be much rarer (myself included).

[–]I_go_by_Ronin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is completely fucking ridiculous...

[–]nick012000 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If I were him, I would be seriously considering suing Wizards of the Coast for loss of income. I'm pretty sure that if he did, the money for his legal fees would come pouring in from Reddit.

[–]GruffMcScruff 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

Could MtG Pro Players start a players union like the NFLPA with the NFL to represent them and their interests?

[–]ebEliminator 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The difference there is that NFL players are contracted to a team, Magic pro players aren't under contract to Wizards. For a comparison, look at golf. It's an individual sport where players play for payouts, like the MTG Pro Tour. It doesn't have a union, either.

[–]Alamoth 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

For completely unrelated reasons to this issue I wish Pro Players could start a union.

However, as /u/ebEliminator points out it makes absolutely no sense for Pro Players to unionize unless the DCI becomes some kind of league like the NFL.

[–]jooke 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Idk, if pro players threatened to refuse to turn up for (say) a PT then I think WotC would have to listen to them.

[–]Alamoth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's the challenge though. Can you convince all 400 pros not to go? Say you convince a bunch of high-level players not to attend. How many other players would go just because of reduced competition?

Situations like this aren't actually a threat to 99.9% of pro players. They have no reason to unionize if the goal is more transparency in the DCI Suspension process.

We all know why Jesse was suspended. Existing pros just need to make sure they don't rape anyone.

[–]ebEliminator -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

To bring up golf again, there have been articles suggesting that the PGA players should unionize, for issues like drug testing and the like. I think it'd be a good idea for players to be able to protect their rights however they can, I just don't think it'd work as a labor union.

[–]Alamoth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The biggest barrier to unionizing for Magic players would be setting a threshold for joining. Where would you draw the line? It would be very difficult to organize.

[–]imNTR 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can someone please explain what happened? He got banned by something Drew Levin said?

[–]Kerrus 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

he was convicted of sexual battery ten years ago. Drew Levein brought it up recently presumably in an attempt to get him booted out of the GP, and now wizards has banned him forever.

[–]Blackout28 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

ZJ top 8'ed a GP that WotC was streaming. Drew Levin tweeted about his criminal past, which was then brought to light. An internet shit storm came and then died down. He top 8'ed GP Charlotte. Now as we've found out from ZJ's comments, on Tuesday he was banned from all events, and had his Magic Online account seized and terminated.

[–]Rayquaza2233 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm surprised they went that far with his MTGO account but I'm guessing the ToS allows Wizards to do stuff like this.

[–]The_Miguelito 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

FUCKING ASSHOLES

[–]Smi77y 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Congrats! You don't have to waste time and money on Magic anymore!

[–]ThisDamnSite 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand how such a large company can make such a horrible PR move. This doesn't make sense from any standpoint. This doesn't feel like justice. It is bad PR for everyone. It won't gain them money. I doubt it makes anyone feel safer going to events.

Out of all those things, justice is the only one that matters, but you'd at least think we could find some motivation for a move a company makes. I struggle to find a reason that WotC would throw themselves into the fire with a decision like this. They've just set a precedent that they can't possibly back up going forward, so it will just likely sit there as a random, ugly stain.

[–]DressedSpring1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I tried to reach some sort of compromise with them, particularly with regard to maintaining my ability to play Magic Online.

I have to feel like this was an extremely reasonable compromise that Wizards should have taken.

[–]regalrecaller 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can someone please link to a thread explaining this?

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    [–]atnpgo 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    By participating at the GP (and I assume PT too) you agree to be used as promotion. The only way to protest is to boycott events altogether.

    [–]Epyon_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    A bit more subversive and has collateral damage, but effective in moderate numbers. If you insist on boycotting just don't buy from a LGS. It's unrealistic to expect MTG players not to buy product, but LGS's are the weakest part of their network. It would be noticed and store owners will bitch. Most effective way in my opinion.

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