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[–]ReLiC71 349ポイント350ポイント  (309子コメント)

[–]GirlbeardJ 405ポイント406ポイント  (49子コメント)

I don't appreciate being stood on stage to be personally attacked

She says after personally attacking someone else. Good to hear people in the audience calling her out.

[–]TheSingularThey 152ポイント153ポイント  (47子コメント)

This shit raelly makes my blood boil. It must take masterful dicipline for anyone who encounters her face-to-face not to punch her in the face.

[–]thegreathobbyist 105ポイント106ポイント  (37子コメント)

Her type are the worst kind of people. You know, the ones who deserve to be punched and probably know it? But you can't because you know they'll go cry to a lawyer first chance they get? Yeah, fuck those people.

[–]xwm 41ポイント42ポイント  (35子コメント)

I miss the time you could hit someone that deserved it without a lawsuit. Society was better off then. (Also there were less pointless warning labels)

[–]thegreathobbyist 36ポイント37ポイント  (30子コメント)

I miss the days where if two people were fighting, the police would just watch to make sure it didn't turn into something fatal.

[–]Niwjere 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even Skyrim knows that's how you handle fisticuffs. Don't involve the law until someone pulls a weapon.

[–]harry_h00d 12ポイント13ポイント  (12子コメント)

As a hockey player, this is how so many problems should be solved. Duke it out, cool off for 5 minutes, move on with your lives

[–]Lugash 18ポイント19ポイント  (11子コメント)

We've been told 'violence is not the answer' so much we often forget that violence is not inherently Evil.

[–]DzhusyDzhuus 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

It must take masterful dicipline for anyone who encounters her face-to-face not to punch her in the face.

Or just the knowledge that punching people for saying something you don't like no matter how terrible is an incredibly shitty thing to do and constitutes assault.

[–]pigeonburger 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, but some people actively try to goad people into doing it. See: Westboro Baptist Church.

[–]SupremeReader 99ポイント100ポイント  (69子コメント)

[–]ReLiC71 147ポイント148ポイント  (53子コメント)

But as a feminist, a writer, and a gentlewoman of fortune, I refuse to be cast in any sort of boring supporting female role, even though I have occasional trouble crossing the road, and even though I did swoon the teeniest tiniest bit when I realized it was him. I think that’s lazy storytelling, and I’m sure Ryan Gosling would agree with me.

Telling the truth is lazy storytelling.

Fine. If I ever see you crossing the road and about to get hit by a car, you're on your own.

See how well you can tell your story after that.

[–]klaus1993 97ポイント98ポイント  (37子コメント)

The word "gentlewoman" makes my brain hurt. The word she was looking for is "Lady", but as far as I'm concerned, she is not a lady.

[–]xyniphis 85ポイント86ポイント  (22子コメント)

Nah m'sir, the gentlewoman tips her neon colored hair at thee

[–]Bobboy5 58ポイント59ポイント  (0子コメント)

strokes leg hair

[–]letsgoiowa 14ポイント15ポイント  (20子コメント)

Why do they always have neon hair?

[–]Niwjere 54ポイント55ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's the female fedora. Not even joking.

[–]RedditIamAtWork 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit this is great.

[–]Gdek 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

Aposematism? Helps to let people around them know that they are poisonous.

[–]itsinthebone 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's fucking brilliant. It's a warning sign to the sane people of society to stay the fuck away.

[–]Brave_Horatius 16ポイント17ポイント  (11子コメント)

That's gentleperson to you, shitlord.

[–]Xzal 13ポイント14ポイント  (10子コメント)

Thats gentlekin to you, shitlord. I identify as an F22-Raptor.

[–]BlizzardOfDicks 11ポイント12ポイント  (7子コメント)

I identify as Stannis of the House Baratheon, First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm.

[–]SupremeReader 58ポイント59ポイント  (9子コメント)

Hey, let's don't joke like that about serious matters. A car might have get dented.

[–]NopeNaw 14ポイント15ポイント  (8子コメント)

Small price to pay. Literally.

[–]PantsJihad 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

Depends on the vehicle. A new front fascia would run me about $2k USD without paint.

[–]Cheesemacher 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

I like this response to her comment (from the article):

Of course, if we follow this strict logic of moral utility to its conclusion, maybe we should be scolding Gosling for saving Laurie Penny rather than shoving her in front of the car, harvesting her organs and donating them to terminally ill children in Bangladesh.

[–]ViggoMiles 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry to Bangladesh, but I feel this one should be a burial at sea.

[–]kamon123 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

God. Now I can't read anything she writes without hearing the annoying raised nose sounding voice of hers. She sounds exactly like those overly prying, judgemental women from older Disney cartoons. She screams pretentious busy body that think she knows everything because she knows enough to be dangerous.

[–]GOU_NoMoreMrNiceGuy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

ugh, she should be run over by a bus.

[–]LoretoRomilda 48ポイント49ポイント  (1子コメント)

she wrote for Gawker

EVERY TIME

[–]kaotik-weevil 86ポイント87ポイント  (8子コメント)

Goddamn, that was her?!

Ugh, talk about a massively ungrateful bitch.

Not kidding, that small act of kindness is probably the reason she's still alive to write her bullshit.

Fuck man, that infuriates me. Forbid you have to live outside your bubble of social and political belief structures for 5 seconds to thank a person for saving your life.

Cops have to deal with that shit everyday. Some asshole who hates them calls them for help and when they show up to help, they're nothing but a massive dick to them the entire time.

Those people can go fuckstart a woodchipper for all I care.

[–]CynicCorvus 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy crap...

well if that 'dosnt scream look at me im so deep' ( talking about Penny)

[–]TriangleDimes 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had just bought a nice pink wig to wear to a friend’s party. I was thinking about an article I’m writing about birth control and the importance of reproductive freedom to women’s rights, and I didn’t remember to look the right way. An actor happened to be passing and stopped me from getting run over by a car. I said “thank you.” And that was that.

Wow...

[–]itwasntme19 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

“EVERYBODY NEEDS TO CALM DOWN ABOUT RYAN GOSLING NOW” over -entitled control freak.

[–]Slutmiko 39ポイント40ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh god, they're the SAME PERSON?

Good god.

[–]randomcallsign 121ポイント122ポイント  (6子コメント)

That was one heck of a game, Knights of the told republic

[–]Tallim 48ポイント49ポイント  (4子コメント)

Knights of the told republic

That's going in the collection.

[–]Helium_PugilistProbably sarcastic, at least snarky 36ポイント37ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's interesting, she does understand the concept of "right of reply" when it suits her...

[–]DoubleRaptor 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think she only understood it because the guy behind her said it.

[–]Lukianox 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, the fact that she says the exact words right after him is like she's trying to learn the concept right there

[–]ggthrowit 56ポイント57ポイント  (4子コメント)

She literally reaches for the "violence inherent in the system" Python-style without a shred of irony, having no ownership of the fact that someone might get agitated when she opens her trap and says something negative about them.

No matter how many times I see this, I'm still stunned. Did she expect him to just roll over and die, or what?

[–]itsinthebone 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes. Yes she did. Usually her victims would just shrink back from an attack and just try to get away. That guy totally blew up her spot and it was god damned glorious.

[–]Lugash 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

She expected nearly everyone in the audience to shout him down on her behalf.

[–]CynicCorvus 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

hahaha I love that ending trying to defend herself from the audience as well.

[–]Junoh315 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Someone needs to arrest that man. It's illegal to own people like that.

[–]Sockpuppet30342 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's that asshole? Makes a lot of sense.

[–]Jerzeem 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let me know if I missed any of her responses to the cancelled panel due to demands for an exorbitant fees:

1: I didn't demand a large fee. (He calls her a liar.)

2: I demanded a normal fee, but that plus the plane fare was too much.

3: I demanded an exorbitant fee to get out of doing it rather than cancel because I was scared someone would be mean to me at the panel.

[–]HelloTosh 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

David Starkey started from the bottom now we here

Started from the bottom now the whole team fucking here.

[–]ConanTheVagslayer 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not surprised by that, seems like the core of an SJW is driven by monetary gain over basic morals and ethics.

[–]vivianjamesplay 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Awesome how David Starkey handled her. Instead of going on the defensive when she started ad hominems on him, he fired backed with the same.

[–]BlockPuppet 11ポイント12ポイント  (134子コメント)

This is why SJWs won't win; luckily the people with real power (politicians, businessmen, etc.) see through their lies and call them on their hypocritical actions.

[–]ev1lb1t 104ポイント105ポイント  (119子コメント)

Oh really? This is why every major business is saving us from the "racist evil" that is the right to purchase anything sporting a confederate flag?

I wouldn't be so dismissive of the SJW threat. They're barely being beaten back, and are still exploiting holes in the lines to slash and burn every bit of personal autonomy of thought and action they can as they're hounded from public legitimacy.

[–]Inuma 37ポイント38ポイント  (55子コメント)

This is why I hate the "culture" aspect of Gamergate with a passion...

SJWs are merely liberal useful idiots. They're uneducated cultists who are going to treat their politics as a religion and try to force everyone else into the cult of liberalism. They pride themselves on identity politics and don't see the contradictions put forth by that.

The thing is that useful idiots come and go. What needs to be stabilized is who reports what and how people can have diverse opinions without blatant attacks on their character from people who are supposed to be journalists.

Yet people get caught up in fighting SJWs and ignore other aspects to their detriment. sigh

[–]DerberAuner 15ポイント16ポイント  (51子コメント)

ive got a question as someone not from america:

why are sjws bunched together with liberals?

i see this frequently here, and im always wondering how exactly this came about, mostly cause the two ideologies seem inconsoleable to me, and cause frankly id say given that im from germany im a LOT more left wing than most americans here (or in general), and i find sjws "disturbing" to say the least.

i would appreciate any response.

[–]Niwjere 13ポイント14ポイント  (13子コメント)

No one's actually answered this to my own satisfaction yet, so here goes.

The word "liberal" has taken on an entirely different meaning in the USA. It's synonymous with "politically left-wing" here. What you likely understand as "liberal" -- classical Western values such as freedom of speech, freedom of the press, etc. -- is no longer represented by the word "liberal" in the United States political system.

The entirety of US politics is squarely on the political right, when considered globally. When we say "politically left", what we really mean is "politically less on the right than the other guys". This, combined with the twisted definition of "liberal", means that the use of "liberal" boils down to "those guys aren't as far over to the right as we are" (it's slung around as a pejorative quite a bit by the US political party further to the right).

I hate that the word "liberal" is so massively misunderstood and misused by the general public, and I hate that I have to constantly preface "liberal" with "classical" so half the population of this country doesn't immediately assume I'm some kind of evil super-communist.

[–]DerberAuner 6ポイント7ポイント  (12子コメント)

thanks, i think i get the picture now.

its a mixture of "SJWs sont identify with the (more) right wing, so they are (more) left by default", "liberal means 'left' in the american political system", and "america is so far right, it doesnt even know what 'real' left is".

would you say this is apt?

[–]BoiseNTheHood 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, it's more that SJWs have taken the planks of the mainstream American leftist platform to an extreme. They're not just considered left-wing because they're not right-wing. They are firmly on the far left of the spectrum.

[–]Niwjere 8ポイント9ポイント  (9子コメント)

You pretty much nailed it. American politics is DISGUSTINGLY black-and-white in nature. Either you're "American left" or you're "American right", and since SJWs aren't "right", they are automatically "left" (aka "liberal" in the idiotic American lexicon). No nuance whatsoever.

[–]DerberAuner 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

i hate that this is leaking into gaming now...

[–]Inuma 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah, someone had to save the world from SJWs.

Shut in nerds who geek out on stats for WH40K decided to get off their asses and face an opponent that had special privileges...

We can see how that turned out.

[–]Kunkunington 23ポイント24ポイント  (4子コメント)

Given that the majority of them try to demonize right wingers and conservatives any chance they get and mislabel anyone who disagrees with them as such, the odds are that they are in fact self identifying at the same time as leftist liberals themselves. This doesn't mean all liberals are sjw and vice versa but all the journos who write such hitpieces seem to take that political position.

[–]DerberAuner 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

well, when you have a choice between one side representing "no abortions for women!"/"no gay marriage" and another side that actually does represent those issues, i think its clear where SJWs would identify;

but i honestly dont see them as "liberal" in any sense of the word. theyre extremely intrusive and controlling. the nomenclature is just plain wrong here.

[–]FukRPolitics 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's because the word means something else entirely in America. These people fit in perfectly with the American sense of liberalism.

[–]DerberAuner 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

i honestly dont think they fit in there. but its certainly a better fit than to actual liberalism.

[–]VicisSubsisto 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The American definition of liberalism is more in line with SJWs (SJW being the more extreme example of liberalism.

The free-speech style liberal is separately referred to as classical liberal, or libertarian, here. (Although to complicate matters further, classical liberals, anti-statists and anarchists are conflated together as libertarians.)

[–]DzhusyDzhuus 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

What constitutes Liberalism in Europe is not the same as the US.

In the US Liberalism is Left-Wing rather than Right, which is consequently referred to as Conservatism more often than not.

EDIT: The reason you see SJWs bunched with Liberals is for a multitude of reasons. They generally want, or at least proclaim to want, the same thing. Equality. A more inclusive democracy. An economic system that benefits the lower classes as much as the upper ones.

The problem is in perceiving how to achieve those things and somewhere along the way some elements of the Left took it upon themselves to force their own particular methods without debate or decided those lofty goals were simply not going to be enough for whatever reason.

There are a lot of people fighting against this trend here, a large part from the Left that feels alienated and abandoned and another part from the Right who are here because they share a mutual goal in discrediting those more extreme elements. Only there are a few extremists from the Right here too who are only interested in using those extremists as a weapon against the entire Left itself.

Though it should be noted tempers flare a lot in this place and that leaves little room for carefully thinking through every response before hitting Save.

[–]DerberAuner 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

but they dont even share any of the core liberal values.

they dont want more freedom, they want control.

at best they are associatable to the "left" because they are not conservatives. so they would be "liberal by default". does that makes any sense? cause thats the only way i could justify calling SJWs "liberal".

[–]DzhusyDzhuus 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

What you're bringing up here is one of the main reasons this happened. Liberals (American Leftists) are seeing this rising trend of extremists in their own wing twisting once held ideals to their definable breaking point to achieve political gains that are often either only to their benefit or their own subjective version of goals shared with moderates.

[–]FukRPolitics 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

All SJWs are liberals, at least in the American sense (and you're better off using google to find a better explanation of the differences between American liberalism and classical liberalism). But not all liberals are SJWs -- though often it seems like a lot of liberals are more interested in not getting blamed for SJWism (while kind of rooting for it on the margins) than they are with combating SJWism.

[–]DerberAuner 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

i hate that american politics of this sort are leaking into a) gaming and b) the internet as a whole like that.

these people are not liberals by any stretch of the imagination, if you ask me. theyre controlfreaks with a "holier than though" attitude and a victim complex. the closest thing politically would be a fascist (if you ask me).

[–]HatredsBlazingGun 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Marxist/communist more than fascist.

[–]DerberAuner 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

stalinist maybe?

i get the idea youre trying to convey, but i dont think communist or marxist adequately portray the authoritarian nature of these people. i think stalinist sounds closer to the truth.

[–]I_pity_the_fool 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

When you think of liberals in Germany, you probably think of parties like the FDP. These people would probably be called libertarians in the US, even though the basic ideology/idea-set is some variant of classical liberalism.

In the 20th Century in the US and the UK, liberalism changed a little. As well as supporting freedom of speech and freedom to practice one's religion (among other rights), many liberals came to believe that many of these rights were meaningless without the financial means to pursue this freedom. So liberals began to support, say, universal healthcare or unemployment insurance because they felt that these measures increased the total amount of freedom for people in society, and not (like social democrats in the UK and Germany) because they believed that redistribution of wealth was a stepping-stone to a classless society or a necessary move to begin to implement socialism democratically.

In time in the US, liberal simply began to mean 'left winger'.

[–]Inuma 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Socialism got decimated in America after the 40s because of the backlash against the New Deal. It got hit even harder by Reagan's neoliberalism which eliminated working class interests or at least misguided them to corporate interests.

The propaganda against left wing movements (anarchism, socialism, Marxism, etc) kept them out of politics and concentrated efforts into the neoclassical economic viewpoints. From left to right is liberalism, libertarianism, and conservatism. Those are the main three neoclassical views that got a lot of notice and concentration while socialism was pushed out on a number of levels. Academically, it wasn't taught. Based on who owns corporations, it wasn't told what class struggle means except a liberal view that says rich versus poor. That's certainly one notion of class, but it doesn't get to the heart of the issue.

For Socialists, they've been conflated with liberals through social democracies which aren't exactly Socialist countries. They're a step in the right direction, but everyone is fighting for different permutations just as other neoclassicals fight for the One True Capitalism.

Getting back on topic, liberals and conservatives have had a monopoly on political economy for the last 100 years. The ways that SJWs have come up is through the 40 year hussle known as capitalism. It's not a coincidence that SJWs are mainly trust fund babies. They are the recipients of wealth earned by the working class and concentrated into the rich. You look at Anita Sarkeesian, Mcintosh, Lipshitz, Quinn, and any others and you'll see that they have a wealth privilege in being able to live in San Francisco, which is pushing out poor minorities while being one of the wealthiest areas on the planet.

Now think about what occurs as you have wealth... You spend less money, you have few connections to the majority of people and the things you focus on are vastly outside the norm. You don't have that connection to others when the few people you know are just as rich as you are and the community you come from is very sparse. Liberalism is still upper middle class interests and fits that description far more than Socialist or the whole "Cultural Marxist" misnomer that right wingers use to smear everyone that isn't them. I could go on, but this is long enough to give you a sense that American politics are FUBAR and unfucking it takes far more education than some people are willing to give.

[–]DerberAuner 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

i appreciate the response, though i think my question was already answered to a good degree by other people.

[–]denshi 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Socialism got decimated in America after the 40s because of the backlash against the New Deal.

I think you're way off-base there. Socialism was savagely attacked and repressed in the US in the early decades of the 20th century. Remember that the Socialist Party of America's nominee for President ran on the 1920 ballot while in prison. Anti-socialist action was probably more effective in the US than in Europe in the 1910's-20's because the US didn't suffer WW1 on its own soil and thus had a more stable society and stronger state.

Socialism largely ended in the US not due to a backlash, but instead due directly because of the New Deal. FDR, a capitalist, convinced most of the capitalist leaders of the US that if they didn't establish some programs for the general welfare of the people, then the people would rise up and destroy the existing American system. The New Deal took the wind out of socialism's sails because it delivered the economic benefits that socialism promised without the expected violent upheaval.

The anti-Red scares of the 1950's crushed any chance of resurgence, but I do think socialism was decimated by the New Deal's successes.

[–]Inuma 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

My basis was to start with WWII.

If I started with Woodrow Wilson and his decimation of Socialism after the Civil War, I'd have to do an even longer argument about Eugene Debs, WEB Dubois, Malcolm X, and Martin Luther King and lord knows I can get verbose about politics enough as is...

I mean hell, if I told people mostly black people were a part of the Communist Party, their heads would explode. Then you tell them that the Black Panthers were targets of mass surveillance before people realized the CIA controls mass media? Yeah... The NSA spying on most Americans has nothing on what our history doesn't tell us in academia or schools.

Also, you have to remember who was pushing for the New Deal and where the bread was getting buttered. The Socialists had a particular knife to twist. They basically told FDR "If you don't do this, we can look at Russia and do this for the mass of people" and that scared the everloving shit out of at least half the rich to allow liberalism (Keynesian specifically) to be done.

But the counterrevolution occurred in 1946 with the launching of the Taft-Hartley Act that helped begin the downward spiral as the mass of people were wrought by fear and propaganda from the right wingers and slowly losing their democracy.

Eventually, the 70s came around and the capitalists realized where to go to get more money and profits by decimating America and moving production to Brazil, Russia, India, China.

Now the US has to deal with the effects of the white working class getting screwed out of their jobs for 50 years by Republicans and Democrats, a black community that they feel is surpassing them, a "Communist" country passing America with rising wages, and no jobs for themselves. And this isn't even getting into the gays they discriminated against since the 1950s getting marriage rights which means they lost on another front as you see the Race War possibly heating up.

I could go into this stuff for hours. But the point is that there's a lot going on and people explaining it are few and far between.

[–]denshi 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sounds like we could drink more than a few beers going over this stuff.

[–]Inuma 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not enough old Scotch to go through it all...

[–]Roast_A_Botch 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Couldn't tell you. As a liberal it pisses me off though, and has stopped me from actively supporting this movement. I don't support the "censor everything for feels side" either, but GG seems to have become a conservatives only movement.

[–]DerberAuner 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

dont do that.

dont let yourself be split apart from an issue you care about, just because the people youre fighting happen to be on the same "political side" as you are.

dont let it be "conservatives only" (i certainly am not conservative by any means, and i still care about the movement). let it be "gamers only". let it be "people who care about ethics".

if someone sais shit about liberals, set them straight (or try to).

remember this: people in europe ar FAR more left leaning than any american you will find, and they are not on the side of SJWs by any means. and people from europe still do support the movement.

if anyone is trying to divide the movement, or remove left wing support from it, you can bet that its the people who this movement is against, the people who try to spin a narrative. dont let a political divide enter this issue, if you really care about it.

[–]Lugash 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

"SJW"s have been around since at least the mid 80's. Don't tell me they come and go. They come and infest.

[–]Inuma 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

They weren't a group with force until two other groups lost power: Evangelicals and conservatives. The point of that is when one group fades, another one replaces until you get to the core of the problem. You can't just claim one group is here to infest until you look at why they came here in the last decade to infest in the first place.

[–]BlockPuppet 8ポイント9ポイント  (60子コメント)

Do you think they were making tons of money from the flag? Not selling it is just good PR for almost no loss of sale.

It's always about money. Just make it in a business' financial interest to act the way you want them to, and they'll do it (this is the reason why companies go 'green': cheap PR + efficiency).

[–]Gazareth 16ポイント17ポイント  (11子コメント)

And what about Google's insidious role in all this? People aren't going to assume that Google has done anything (that would garner respect), they are going to assume that there are simply no shops selling the flag.

[–]ev1lb1t 10ポイント11ポイント  (47子コメント)

The point stands, people with real power are silencing and denying personal autonomy of choice to individuals who disagree with extremist SJW rhetoric.

The profitability of this is irrelevant. They're doing it, and denying people individual agency at the request of SJWs.

[–]BabaXIII 22ポイント23ポイント  (11子コメント)

Is this why Obama told the wage gap lie once again in one of his latest speech?

[–]BlockPuppet 8ポイント9ポイント  (10子コメント)

It's popular amongst his supporters, he's simply appealing to his audience.also inb4 "implying Obama has power just now" from republicans

The statistic is not actually incorrect, but lacks the necessary context.

[–]BabaXIII 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

It is incorrect when used the way Obama did.

When he (and feminists) use it they imply that it's money made and not money earned. Women on average earn less money because of less time spent at work and in less dangerous jobs.

Meanwhile men on average EARN more because of the opposite. Meanwhile, Obama said ''Women make 0.77$ for everyone dollar a man makes.'' which is ignorant at best and a willful lie at worst.

[–]tekende 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

The statistic is not actually incorrect, but lacks the necessary context.

It's so misleading and intellectually dishonest that it might as well be an outright lie. Don't defend it.

[–]SupremeReader 98ポイント99ポイント  (12子コメント)

See you in 2016, Laurie.

[–]urection 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol as if a drama queen like that can spend more than a month away off her Twitter drip

[–]GamesJernelizt 35ポイント36ポイント  (9子コメント)

We're gamers, Laurie. We know all about siege warfare.

[–]ashlaaaaay 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

#stopgamergate2016

[–]Dormition 176ポイント177ポイント  (9子コメント)

Darling, you're absolutely right about sexists, misogynists and bigots losing wars everywhere.

The only catch is that you're among those people, as well as the other SJWs. You're losing and it's about time you accept your Shadow, don't you think?

[–]mginatl 57ポイント58ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh yeah, the sexists and bigots have been losing. It's just that the SJWs are confused about which side they're on.

[–]ZombyTed 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

They really don't like mirrors.

[–]explodr 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Came here to say this. Our global society as a whole is becoming more tolerant of people from all walks of life and these assholes think it's them we need to thank...

[–]Drakaris 110ポイント111ポイント  (21子コメント)

It's happening in games

Except it isn't.

in film

Errr, no, it isn't.

in journalism

If you count Polygon, Kotaku and Mary Sue as journalists, then yea. However, no one with 2 brain cells in their heads cares about them. So again - no.

in television

...nope.

in fandom

...yea... it isn't.

So what did the SJW achieve in one year? Exactly what they were expected to. Nothing. And what will they achieve? Exactly the same amount of nothing. Next Batman will still beat the shit out of everything, Geralt will still be the straight white alpha male that fucks everything with boobs, Lara Croft will still have size DD boobs, Doom will still have rivers of blood, Scarlett Johansson will still be sexy as hell dressed in revealing tight bodysuit in Marvel's movies, Chris Redfield will still kill black zombies in Africa, Captain America will still be played by Chris Evans and not Will Smith, Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball will still have ridonculous amount of half naked hot babes... water will be wet, wheel will be round and fire will be hot...

So, Laurie, you and your SJW clowns should really do SOMETHING that isn't pointless shit. Because the facts speak for themselves - so far the SJW "movement" (lol...) has achieved absolfuckinglutely nothing, changed nothing and won nothing.

[–]Miserygut 58ポイント59ポイント  (7子コメント)

has achieved absolfuckinglutely nothing, changed nothing and won nothing.

Well... They made loads of money through Patreon so who cares, right?

[–]bastiVS 35ポイント36ポイント  (0子コメント)

DING DING DING DING DING! WE HAVE A WINNNER!

This is the ENTIRE reason they do what they do.

ALL they are trying to archive is create a bubble of people who sends money their way. Laurie at least actually did something for that (wrote a book). Others, however, eighter just ask for money via patreon for doing absolutly nothing, or do a kickstarter campain without ever delivering what the kickstarter was about.

I Honestly believe that Laurie is a very extreme SWJ, but an actual SWJ that belives what she says. Most of the rest however, well, they are just scamming people.

This is why GG got slandered for being anti women when it started: Being the one calling out a harrasment group is a sure way to get you positive attention, especially if said group is an open group without anyone who can actually claim what said group is about.

[–]DoctorEmo 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

I have a bit of a tinfoily conspiracy theory about that. They fund each other on pateron inflating their numbers. Zero net gain until other suckers see the number of backers they have and think it's legit so they back them. So they might have 3k a month from backers but 1k from that is spent on backing other scam artists every month.

[–]anothga 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

so far the SJW "movement" (lol...) has achieved absolfuckinglutely nothing

Except get quite an amount of people doxxed, a lot of people scared to say anything and everyone angry. But yeah, I see what you're trying to say and I acknowledge that.

[–]Lucky0Looser 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tim Hunt and Matt Taylor come to mind.

[–]tunafish91 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

They have achieved things!!

Not good things, like making a scientist cry, but they have achieved things

[–]ChuggoBuggo 47ポイント48ポイント  (5子コメント)

They come out saying all us minorities involved here are somehow racists, that all the women here are somehow misogynists, and that gamers as a whole are just harassing assholes.

They tell us gamers are dead and they want to exclude us from the gaming scene.

They tell us this is a shitty hobby with shitty developers catering to a shitty community of shitty gamers across the world... and they wonder WHY their message isn't gaining any traction?

Gee... I have no idea why gamers refuse to embrace this wonderfully progressive message.

[–]Meafy 114ポイント115ポイント  (51子コメント)

She is still probably in shock that labour lost , because like most of the press she thinks that her twitter echo chamber is what represents the majority

[–]LividGGPartisan 92ポイント93ポイント  (28子コメント)

The most ironic part is that the social justice narrative likely contributed to labors defeat.

These people are a cancer on the left, and if they manage to gain too large a voice in the US, the democrats will likely lose to whatever insane figurehead the republicans come up with this time.

Honestly, I'm not sure I'm that against 'the other side' winning, being a staunch left libertarian myself - mainstream leftism has to wake up and do some fucking chemo therapy, and they won't do it untill they realize that backing the SJW narrative is a losing proposition.

[–]informat2 43ポイント44ポイント  (20子コメント)

These people are a cancer on the left, and if they manage to gain too large a voice in the US, the democrats will likely lose to whatever insane figurehead the republicans come up with this time.

This is my biggest fear. I really don't feel like spending another 4 years with Bush 2.0 just because SJWs pissed off the swing voters.

[–]LWMR 49ポイント50ポイント  (7子コメント)

Bush 3.0, surely? (GHW, GW and Jeb)

[–]Sporkosophy 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

Presidential Hat Trick.

[–]Sandwiches_INC 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

as long as i get free fries at arby's if i present my copy of the hat trick, i'll be ok

[–]Msj2705 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bush[0]

Bush[1]

Bush[2]

[–]Gingor 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damnit, they should have just called him George, then it could be GHW, GW, G.

[–]BlizzardOfDicks 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bush 4.0 actually. (GHW, GW, BO and Jeb)

[–]Torchiest 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

We've already had six years and counting of Bush 2.0.

[–]FlameFist 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

Honestly, I'm not sure I'm that against 'the other side' winning, being a staunch left libertarian myself

I'm really not liking how American politics is turning out. I'm also left libertarian, and it appears that our Republican/Democrat split is steadily becoming left authoritarian versus right libertarian. I don't like either option and it's just going to make politics a lesser of two evils again.

[–]SideTraKd 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's always going to be the lesser of (two?) evils, no matter what.

Like fingerprints, there is probably not another single soul in the world that has the exact same ideological opinions as you do, across the board. There is almost certain to be at least some minor differences.

So, even if a promising candidate comes very close to matching your ideals, and their opponent does not, then you are still choosing the one that offends you the least.

Not to mention the fact that NO politician should be blindly trusted, and for good reason.

[–]Lucky0Looser 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

British Labour chief: I’m going to make Islamophobia an aggravated hate crime.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/04/25/miliband-labour-would-outlaw-islamophobia/

Yeah, no way would I have voted for them.

[–]Tallim 20ポイント21ポイント  (12子コメント)

Labour (and supporters) have been acting super weird since they lost.

[–]Vallorn_ 27ポイント28ポイント  (11子コメント)

As a Tory it's not weird for them... They seem to have a ritual of trying to blame everyone but themselves, they've already blamed the electorate, the media, the pollsters, the BBC (HAHAHA), "Negative Campaigning" (Which New Labour practically invented) and now I just saw... This: http://order-order.com/2015/06/30/half-a-million-sign-petition-against-mps-pay-rise/#_@/FXlAArjrhqIPFQ

[–]Tallim 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

Heh well I can't say I'm surprised.

I'm SNP and we suffered a wave of blame for it from the reds despite the fact that even if all of Scotland had voted Labour they still wouldn't have won!

They just can't accept that they screwed up.

[–]fatguy666 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fellow SNP voter here, although in the minds of the aggros I voted UKIP and like Britain First on Facebook.

[–]Tallim 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course! Because there are no lefties supporting gamergate are there! ;)

[–]theone89944k GET 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

They seem to have a ritual of trying to blame everyone but themselves, they've already blamed the electorate, the media, the pollsters, the BBC (HAHAHA), "Negative Campaigning"

Could you provide sources? I'm not doubting you, I just genuinely want to see it for a chuckle. I love the butthurt.

[–]Ohib 20ポイント21ポイント  (7子コメント)

In fairness most people were shocked the conservatives won the election flat-out. A lot were expecting a labour-led coalition.

[–]Meafy 46ポイント47ポイント  (6子コメント)

Its called the Shy-tory effect. no one wants others to know you voted tory , mainly due to social media hounding . Twitter should not be taken as the majority view.

[–]Miserygut 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Without getting into politics the 'Shy Tory' effect wasn't what won them the day. It was shrewd electioneering and politics to really nail marginal constituencies (knowing that LD would get annihilated and Labour were weak). I don't like the cunts but they played the game very well.

[–]Meafy 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also Labour playing identity politics didn't help , threatening to create anti blaspheme laws and then that stupid pink bus

[–]AngryArmour 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

Also exists in Denmark. The now second largest party didn't do nearly as well in opinion polls before hand, because it's a right-wing populist party promising easy and simple solutions to complex problems and therefore most experts and journalists have been after it and its voters time and again.

[–]Deathcrow 36ポイント37ポイント  (4子コメント)

lol suddenly it's "pointless shit". Pretty funny how reality works when you're delusional and/or legitimately crazy. Winning: "This is patriarchy in action. Look at all the misogyny. It's time to end gamers!" Losing: "Who cares about this pointless shit? Lel you're so childish..."

[–]anothga 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

lol suddenly it's "pointless shit".

That made me laugh.

If it really is just "pointless shit," why did you spend an entire year on it?

[–]Sandwiches_INC 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

starts with a 'p' and ends with 'atreon dollars. please donate, debt collectors are calling!'

[–]Calybar 34ポイント35ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's the same over and over recently.

In a nutshell:

Sep. 2014: "I can karate. Get rekt, nerds!"

Jun. 2015: "Ow that does hurt. STAHP!"

[–]CongenoRule #1: LISTEN & BELIEVE 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Speaking of Karate, who was that guy in the Red Gi that was threatening to fight GG'ers and what was the story behind that?

[–]ComradePotato 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pretty sure he was an SA Goon trolling. "Hey everyone look at how beta-tarded I am!"

[–]Error774 58ポイント59ポイント  (10子コメント)

HAHA they SJWs are starting to starve. Their sympathy supplies have run dry and are down to meager rations. Some have already begun turning on one another in shocking displays of cannibalism.

It appears this one is offering up parley. But we will never give in, never surrender. While they starve to death we grow stronger.

Die starving and desperate in your ivory tower SJW shitlords. We the gamers will not break this siege until your emaciated bodies become hollow and your bones lie dried upon the floor. History will forget you.

[–]CongenoRule #1: LISTEN & BELIEVE 30ポイント31ポイント  (9子コメント)

It appears this one is offering up parley. But we will never give in, never surrender. While they starve to death we grow stronger.

GG'ers are fed on a steady diet of rage and disdain. We don't give up when we're attacked, we get angry, we dig into our enemies, grind into our trenches and git gud.

This whole culture war has just been one big game of Dark Souls. Death/defeat is a learning experience and we have died so many times that we know their game before they even play.

History will forget you.

I hope not. I don't want evil to ever be forgotten. It must be known that evil comes in all shapes, sizes, colors, and even ideologies. Evil never dies, it just changes.

[–]Error774 12ポイント13ポイント  (7子コメント)

That is a very valid point. History should definitely not forget what the SJWs did and what they stand for, but I think erasing their names from history damnatio memoriae if you will is the right thing to do. That's why I love the use of LW.

[–]CongenoRule #1: LISTEN & BELIEVE 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

A name can safely be forgotten. You don't have to use Hitler's name to describe how his actions and policies were horrific, only that they were horrific.

[–]Error774 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

I saw an article after the Germanwings incident that suggested bringing back damnatio memoriae. I don't have the link to hand, but making sure that people like the LWs are crushed and erased from history is the only way to rob them of their power.

I mean it's already happening to a couple of them, who knows or cares about Offworld. It will never get big and eventually it will happen to all the others as well. But that's still a little ways off, I think it's safe to say that we've passed the most difficult part of the fight and are sufficiently leveled up enough to finish the game off.

Lets just hope there isn't any DLC after it's all done.

[–]CongenoRule #1: LISTEN & BELIEVE 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lets just hope there isn't any DLC after it's all done.

Lol, there is always DLC and secret bosses and extra content. This ride never ends.

[–]Error774 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

GG - Game of the Year 2014/2015. Rated 10/10 by shitposters and gamers everywhere.

"The Ride Never Ends!" - Congeno.

"You never know when another boss is going to appear" - some reddit shitposter.

"I have over 10,000 hours logged!" - rando.

"The bosses are 3edgy5me" - 8chan.

"Robbed us of our names" - LW.

[–]Dyalibya 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

That woman is one of the reasons I know 100% I'm on the right side of GG

New York Magazine columnist Jonathan Chait writes that Penny is “one of those leftie-types so sanctimonious they make you want to vote Republican out of sheer spite.”

[–]OsmundTheOrange 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or yknow, vote with a third party

[–]Xaltiery 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

Damn i can't wait to see her tweet this next year lol.

[–]Meafy 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

She lost a lot of cred , when she said she saw nothing wrong with protestors against austerity defaced a War memorial for women workers during WWII .

Then she had the audacity to say she was being hounded/harassed for those views because in her mind she wasn't being disrespectful because her Gran was part of those women workers....

[–]VicisSubsisto 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Basically the equivalent of the "I'm not racist, I have black friends!" argument the SJWs love to CONSTANTLY tell us is invalid.

[–]deathonwingz 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

We have people who spend hundreds of hours grinding in games for non existent pixel items, people who spend hundreds of hours figuring out game stats/drops/ect with spreadsheets many more obsessive people. I had serious doubts gamergate would last but I'm beginning to think we could do this forever. Don't forget we do this for free, see you all in 2016.

[–]ThisIsFrigglishThe 0.0065% 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

As I saw it described,

Gamers are the people who will breed imaginary birds to the 27th generation in hopes of producing the rare golden chocobo, raising that game completion percentage from 99.6% to 100%. And this is the demographic you decided you could outlast?

[–]AcherosIs fake journalism 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

they can never beat our weaponized autism.

[–]SaltyChimp 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/yKmFvzV.jpg

Ahyes Laurie Penny, professional victim feminist.

[–]mscomies 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's like she's trying to become a professional neckbeard, complete with fedora.

[–]lmdrasil 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like a 13 year old boy.

m'sogynist

[–]vonmonologue 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've read more books in the last 3 months than I had in all of 2014. I've also made more friends than I had before.

[–]frankenmine/r/WerthamInAction - #ComicGate 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

Declaring debates or events a certain way when they're still in progress (or even concluded the other way) has been one of the corrupt press' most unethical (and yet effective) tactics.

It didn't work on gamers for two reasons:

  • We don't need the SJW press' cooperation or approval to get shit done. What we need to do (get advertisers to pull their support, get the federal government to crack down on illegal behavior, reach out to hardcore gamers) is fairly orthogonal to the SJW press' sphere of influence.
  • We're used to grinding through the most frustrating levels for hundreds of hours on end, with barely a hint of progress, just because.

[–]Lugash 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

We're fighting people who don't bother to read the abstract of a paper before citing it as 'evidence'. We are people who buy Kerbal Space Program and accidentally learn actual orbital mechanics.

[–]slumpywpgg 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Recreational misogyny " lol what does that even mean?

[–]snarkbot_777 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only recreationally legal in Washington, Oregon and Colorado. It might be possible to get a Medical Misogyny card in your state though. /lel .

[–]Steampunk_Moustache 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ten months ago, we told them; 'Welcome to the new normal' and 'I can do this all day'.

They didn't believe us.

[–]katsuya_kaiba 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank god I'm a professional misogynist rather than a recreational one. Drinks coffee as I look over my stocks Hmmmm... yes...

[–]ChangeSilicon 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

[–]AspsVeryDangerous 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its kind of glorious really. Nerds (the meek) shall inherit the Earth. Not so fucking meek now, eh? Sorry SJWs, you poked the wrong bear.

[–]TheScrumpyMonkey 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

Its worse than anyone suspected...

archive.is/UNYVh

[–]ThisIsFrigglishThe 0.0065% 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

What's more, I really do object to being framed as the ditzy damsel in distress in this story.

Ms. Penny,

Look, I am kind of an idiot. I am constantly walking into things, losing my phone and keys, and wandering into traffic because I'm thinking about something else or have spotted something interesting in the sky

Please direct your complaints to one "Laurie Penny", who I understand writes for Gawker.

[–]ReLiC71 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

I object to being framed as the damsel in distress when I was literally a damsel in distress. Please frame me as the brave social justice hero taking on the cartriarchy.

[–]HGwells628 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Recreational Misogynists"

I love the implications of that term.

"Oh man, I sure do hate me some women. Not as much as Tim though, he could go pro."

[–]Aurondarklord 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I once said that by the end of this thing, we'd have the SJWs begging for mercy. I was being sarcastic, I did not actually expect that ten months later they would, in fact, LITERALLY BE BEGGING FOR MERCY.

[–]CoMaBlaCK 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's right but in the saddest way possible.

"I'm offended" is the greatest weapon the sjws have along with claiming the opposite viewpoint is not politically correct.

[–]HariMichaelson 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I probably read more books in a month than she read in the last five years.

And I already have too many friends to realistically give them all the time they deserve while still finding time for myself.

[–]Atlas001 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can definitelly say the bigots are losing the war

[–]readgrid 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

read a book

yeah like 1984 or Animal Farm

make a friend

OPSkynet

[–]tunafish91 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

'Make a friend'

I've actually made quite a few thanks to GG. 😁

[–]Intoxicus5 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The term "Culture War" turns my stomach.

We have enough war as it is.

How about a Culture "Compromise and figure it out" instead!

[–]backwards7ven 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've made quite a few friends through Gamergate and guess what? They're all decent and intelligent people.

[–]FrighteningWorld 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

But Laurie, I can read books, work retail, play videogames and do pointless shit.

[–]mnemosyne-0000#BotYourShield 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Archive links for this post:


I am Mnemosyne, goddess of memory. I remember so you don't have to.

[–]sosy1325 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Something I've noticed about the so-called "culture war": if you talk to many left wingers, the right is winning/has already won. If you talk to many right wingers, the left is winning/has already won.

[–]Catguin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't even know who this person is lol