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This Woman Refuses To Shave Her Armpits, And Gender Equality Is Only Part Of It

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WATCH: Why More And More Women Are Refusing To Shave Their Armpits
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More and more women are refusing to shave their armpits -- and resisting patriarchal beauty standards in the process.
Loyola University of Chicago student Bobby Crowley, who stopped shaving her underarms a few years ago, spoke to the double standard men and women face when it comes to their body hair in a conversation with HuffPost Live.
"It's not just a body image thing, but it's also a gender thing," she said. "This is very clearly a gendered prescription that has been put upon women, whereas men are walking around and no one expects them to shave their armpits, obviously. People will talk about it like it's a hygiene thing, but really it's a gender thing. It's absolutely only prescribed only to women, and there's no way that women are any messier than [men], that's for sure."
While Lizzie Crocker, a staff writer at The Daily Beast, told HuffPost Live's Nancy Redd that unshaven pits have become "inextricably linked to feminism," Crowley said her choice to stop shaving was simply a personal one.
"Most importantly for me, when I started, it wasn't about a movement. It wasn't about anyone but myself. I would shave [my armpits] and they would be bleeding," she said. "And really the reason I stopped is because I sort of looked at myself and said, I'm literally hurting myself every day because I have really sensitive skin."
When she stepped back and questioned why she had been shaving every day, she had an epiphany.
"[I was not shaving] for me. It was a worry that when I lift my arms, I'm going to be shamed for having made a decision about my body that doesn't go with how other people feel," she said. "And that, to me, was most important."
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  • Len Leyba · Top Commenter
    She admits to shaving her legs, but thinks shaving her underarms is a repressive, patriarchal, outdated, socially imposed behavior. As a male, who unconditionally supports equality for all people, I am going to say this woman is honestly not thinking her position or personal grooming activities through.
     
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  • Dustin McJamesy · Top Commenter
    I could care less if you shave your pits or not, but knock off this whole "patriarchal beauty standards" nonsense. I'll agree that women are held to different standards than men when it comes to things like grooming... but it is other women, not men, holding them to those standards
    • Leroy Omondi · Top Commenter
      Very true. Sort of like these expensive designer handbags. Do you think a guy has ever looked at a girl who's unattractive to him and say "Damn, she's not my type but she had a Birkin bag so I had to get her number". If you don't shave your armpit hair it's no one's business but don't expect people to find it "hot". In the same way a man with ugly unkempt facial hair shouldn't expect to people to take him seriously in a job interview.
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    • Brienne Oftarth
      You can't be serious. A hetero woman who doesn't fit into male beauty standards has a snowball's chance in hell when it comes to getting laid.
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    • Eric Eberhard · Top Commenter · Spokane, Washington
      Brienne Oftarth Much like a man who doesn't fit into female standards. That's gender equality.
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  • Rachel Chappell · Top Commenter · La Crescenta, California
    I don't see how this has anything to do with feminism, gender equality, etc. No one is forced to shave anything they don't want to shave. It's always been a personal decision, and while society HAS definitely influenced ideas of what is attractive or desirable, it's still up to each of us, male or female what to do with our personal grooming habits.

    You can pluck your eyebrows or not, shave your armpits or not..it's a free country.

    I choose to go ahead and shave things, but either choice is just fine, and maybe we're making mountains out of armpits here.
    • Craig Schultz · Top Commenter · Middleton, Wisconsin
      Or, looking for one's Andy Warhol's 15 minutes.
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    • Rachel Chappell · Top Commenter · La Crescenta, California
      Craig Schultz Yeah, it's very en vogue at the moment to take an everyday activity and protest that it's in some way oppressing you. As a woman, I'm really tired of being told I should be outraged over things that are, just as in this example..a matter of free choice.

      Makeup ads..shaving, beauty standards..blah blah.

      I wake up every day with free will. I can shave things or not, and I can watch my weight closely, or not..I can wear makeup and pretty dresses, or not..

      The suggestion that choosing to wear a dress and shave ones legs is a sign of oppression is just as silly as saying that a woman choosing to wear pants and not shave her legs is a sign of freedom.

      In both cases, freedom of choice and personal preference is all it was.

      We have bigger fish to fry in the cause of human rights and equality. These are silly distractions at best.
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    • Sean McGuire · Top Commenter
      I think you are right (first comment) except that, this WOULD have been a big deal 50 years ago. Your second comment sums it up even better. "it's very en vogue at the moment to take an everyday activity and protest that it's in some way oppressing you"
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  • Septimus Yolander · Top Commenter · Austin, Texas
    She has a point it's a totally arbitrary thing. Beauty is based on cultural programming and shaved armpits is a perfect example of that. A child growing up is bombarded with images of supermodels, movie stars, pop stars etc where they all have shaved underarms and it has become the norm and associated with beauty . If the switch was flipped tomorrow and a child growing up was suddenly bombarded with images where unshaved armpits were the norm they would think shaved armpits are weird/gross etc. People fiorget that there was a time when Reubenesque women were considered the height of beauty and today's supermodels would have been scorned for looking like starving refugees.
    • Jake Ellwood · Top Commenter
      If you go by the paintings of that era most of those Rubenesque ladies had shaved armpits.
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    • Sam J Templin · Top Commenter · 3D Artist - Generalist at Free Lancer
      Beauty is based upon culture, which in turn is based upon biology. There are very specific attributes that are found in men and women which remain universal throughout history and societies.

      Occasionally it deviants, but only as a passing fad.

      Feminists and Christians share a hatred of biology.
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    • Septimus Yolander · Top Commenter · Austin, Texas
      Sam J Templin The "specific attributes" theory is irrelevant If you look at the timespan from the advent of modern humans to now you'll see that for the great majority of that time period humans lived in small groups. They didn't have a lot of choice when it came to picking mates. Our ancestors used the "any port in a storm" method for most of our history which is a key reason humans have been so successful. . The idea that there are very specific physical attributes that would drive a choice of mates is thus irrelevant because most of our ancestors wouldn't have access to mates that had them.
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  • Damian Diersing · Top Commenter · Cape Coral, Florida
    " and resisting patriarchal beauty standards in the process."

    Bravo. If we look to the history books we see that around the 5th century, many kings and even the pope declared female armpit hair the work of the devil. They even burned these women at the stake.

    Lol, get real. No man throughout history has ever demanded women shave their armpits. That is some manufactured outrage for sure. Men are just glad to have sex, women are way more complicated and fussy about their appearance than males even care or notice.

    But since we are on the topic let's talk about beauty standards. There are of course two. What women "want", and what men "want". These aren't forced on anyone. But, if you are yourself looking for a certain type of man, don't act surprised that men also may be looking for a certain woman. These beauty "standards" don't exist, everyone's taste is quite different. Hence why fatties can still get laid.

    Also, apparently none of these women have been to Europe. Unshaven armpits aren't exactly NEW, or even infrequent. This is American women thinking they are making some sort of stand. HAHA, garbage.
    • Jake Ellwood · Top Commenter
      I must have gotten lucky and found the one Parisian lady who shaved her legs and armpits.
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    • Luke Bogash · Top Commenter · Oregon Health & Science University
      Hmmm...I manage the hair in my armpits because I don't like long hair under my arms. I guess I am also succumbing to patriarchal beauty standards even though I am apparently the driving force behind patriarchal beauty standards.
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    • Craig Schultz · Top Commenter · Middleton, Wisconsin
      I beg to differ!

      I STRONGLY suggest something be done with pit hair when it becomes long enough to braid, into a jump rope.

      Beyond that, I could care less only if I tried very hard.
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  • Michael Kelly · Top Commenter · Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
    I have no problem with her not shaving her arm pits. I also have no problem avoiding her. What she does with her body is her business and my reaction to her is my business
       
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    • Olayele Olaniyi · Top Commenter · Works at USA Health Insurance
      LOL... everyone needs a cause to fight these days... Aaaaaah Yes! Carry on.
         
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      • Nicholas Boucher
        I understand the meaning that it was used for during the the feminism movements. Shaving or not shaving is your choice and it should be just that. Why does everything have to be about an issue now. If you don't shave your pits, good for you, but that doesnt make you holier than than a woman or a person who does shave her pits. This is where feminism has its issues. Instead of trying to empower someone, most "feminists" tear down those who do follow common gender stereotypes. I believe in equal treatment of all of the sexes, equal pay, equal rights, and equal respect. There are more important issues that need to be brought up in the fight for these equalities and honestly, shaving or not shaving your pits shouldn't even be on the list of issues.
         
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      • Phillip Williams · Top Commenter
        You can do or not do anything you like as long as it is legal and hurts no one.
        BUT
        There is a cost to all actions.
        Farting in an elevator at work is legal and you can do.... You can even tell your co-workers that it's natural and "you should be able to do it if you want" and if your co-workers have a problem... well, they are the problem.

        The cost? No friends.

        The same formula applies to females not shaving arm pits. Understand the cost, accept the cost, and go for it. But DO NOT keep harping on "If someone has a problem with it... THEY are the problem"

        The problem is a lack of understanding of social navigation and living your life the way you think the world SHOULD BE rather than the way the world IS.

        She's right about the way things should be... but wrong about the way things are.

        I agree, it sucks.
         
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      • Bernadette Jackson · Top Commenter
        Not shaving one's arm pit hair is not a movement. She's just finding something to have a fight about. I know that it may be different in other social circles but I never thought of shaving the pits as a must-do. I might do it every few months but I never felt the weight of society swinging from my arm pit hairs.
           
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