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[–]Mouon 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

The whining is pretty annoying. There are loads of left progressives here, its not as if they are a minority and the subs been taken over by conservatives.

[–]TanTanTanuki 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think the problem is that there's no changing it. It's pointless whinging.

Let me give context to that: TiA is certainly not what it was when it started. It was a small community and slow. It was a lot more focused on laughing at the crazy on Tumblr than it was on the outrage to be generated by these crazies. It was a lot more intimate and a lot more of a community than it is now.

But the change in those things is a consequence of numbers. TiA isn't a small, intimate sub anymore. It is not populated by the type of person that found out about SJWs because they had a run in with one in their (liberal) circles anymore. The new face of political correctness has gotten a lot of face time in the news and SJWs have drawn a lot of attention to themselves via much more mainstream parts of society.

Back to my opener: Complaining that TiA has changed is complaining about a facet of internet culture that has existed since before the internet was a home-use utility. That is, as a community's growth increases, the community loses its ability to police the new members to get them to conform to the established culture. (See: Eternal September)

We're not like a chan that naturally self-selects individuals that are amenable to conforming to the culture (or forces people to conform. See "op is a faggot" and other such common terms of chan culture.) TiA is like a traditional discussion board. Huge influxes of people change the board forever. Very little short of heavy policing by a very dedicated mod team can cause it to conform to old standards, and doing so without diplomacy ends with the death of the community. (Haha, remember anti-srs?)

Teal Deer: "TiA has changed" threads are stating the obvious. They're not of any use to anyone save for room to complain about stuff. While OP is being a bit heavy handed, they're right. These threads about TiA need to have meat to them or they're of no use to anyone. TiA will never go back to what it was. What you can do is attempt to foster the kind of community you like. even if only in pockets.

[–]Reverend_Twitch 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm just sick of people saying

TRIGGERED

and acting like it's hilarious. It's dumb. Stop it.

[–]dovercliffvery much His Flaming Fagness 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's irritating, but it's "downvote-and-move-on", not "we must have a serious discussion" - we have over 200,000 people. Someone thinks it's still funny.

[–]MissInkFTW 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can anyone point out to me how to find posts from like a year-ish ago when I joined? I'd love to source, but can't figure out how to find them. Tried the timestamp search, coming up with nothing.

[–]DBCrumpetsSanity is overrated[M] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can search by: old by messing with the url a bit. Just delete "new" in the url and replace with "old".

[–]yep45 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a conservative, I'm triggered by all the threads of people who are scared of me being in their safe space :(

[–]Yo-Yo_Roomie -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

So we're not allowed to discuss some aspect of TiA on /r/TiADiscussion because of your feels? How about you provide proof that this is a problem?

[–]cold_white_silence 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would say it is a problem here if it would be a problem in the real world. If a different person, or a rotating group of people, came up to you twice a week to talk to you about how much your hometown has changed, and then proceed to list off things that actually have not changed. You would probably be pretty tired of those conversations. Especially if you had been around since the beginning.

[–]Lulu_and_TiaOppression of the ego-kin -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you have legitimate criticism, you can make a submission, but make sure it's backed up with sources.

I'd like to site your post, shitlord.

This thread isn't the place for TiA complaints.

m'education

Listen up, you all know about the weekly "remember when TiA was good?" threads?

Sigh, you know TiA, I love that we have a bunch of laughs at SJWs with borderline no self-awareness, but TiA isn't exactly a faultless god in that aspect. Then again, the circlejerk is tacit admission of that.

"Remember when TiA was good?"

Where do I even begin dissecting this one. The biased simplification of dissenting commentary?

You know, the ones that complain about how TiA used to be a bastion of [insert cause] but has fallen to [insert opposite cause].

While I don't agree with that either, to play the demographics and then pretend there is NO political commentary, which is in and of itself an issue, regardless of the political demography of the sub because of the destructive nature of conflating SJW noise with political positioning ensuring a swift political circlejerk, is disingenuous.

The ones that produce no evidence to support their claims? We sure do. Here at the Patriarchy (TM) we like to oppress people with sources and evidence, so from now on they are mandatory in threads discussing TiA's recent behavior or changes in its behavior.

Given the TiA's head mod's reaction to these claims by basically playing politics and answering only what he wants to hear, i'm not exactly sure why I or anyone else should waste their time. It seems the modderinos have already made up their mind.

I'll refrain from acting on assumption, some other day when i'm feeling up to it i'll provide some "sources".

Before I wrap this up, one last thing. So far, we here at the Patriarchy (TM) have been laissez faire (like our heterocapitalism) with regards to proving things since as privileged white scum we don't have to lie. Is there going to be any onus on posters of other unproven information to source their claims?

[–]dovercliffvery much His Flaming Fagness[M] 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Given the TiA's head mod's reaction to these claims by basically playing politics and answering only what he wants to hear, i'm not exactly sure why I or anyone else should waste their time. It seems the modderinos have already made up their mind.

Given that I have not commented at all in this thread except to ask a couple of people to be civil, I would thank you not to put words in my mouth.

My position, and the consensus of the moderation team, is as follows; at present, every week we get at least one "TiA quality degrading" thread in TiAD (based on the moderation logs). All we are asking is that if you're going to post one of these, provide something to substantiate the view, the evidence that has led you to hold this view. No more, no less.

Otherwise it's just spam, to be treated as such.

[–]Lulu_and_TiaOppression of the ego-kin -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Given that I have not commented at all in this thread except to ask a couple of people to be civil, I would thank you not to put words in my mouth.

Who said it was this thread?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TiADiscussion/comments/3bf91v/when_and_why_did_tia_take_such_a_hardright/cslnfou

I've got better things to put in your mouth than words ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).

My position, and the consensus of the moderation team, is as follows; at present, every week we get at least one "TiA quality degrading" thread in TiAD (based on the moderation logs). All we are asking is that if you're going to post one of these, provide something to substantiate the view, the evidence that has led you to hold this view. No more, no less.

Much better. Now why wasn't that the OP instead?

[–]dovercliffvery much His Flaming Fagness 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, yes, the post where someone claimed TiA went hard right (as in the political position) and so I produced quantifiable data regarding the political beliefs held on TiA showing this to be untrue.

Much better. Now why wasn't that the OP instead?

We figured that the people of TiA's sister sub, long accustomed to providing reals to substantiate their feels, wouldn't have a problem with simply linking to the comment or thread that prompted them to post in the first place.