DLM #855: Michelle Biloon, Doogie Horner, and Nick McIlwain

cameronxylo · 1日前

The audio messes up like 5 minutes into the show and so far it's not fixed. Oh well.

Sebasyde · 1年前

Well, the educational system of said countries is merely an addition to the social services already offered by the state to the people.

In America, there are lots of homes where the environment is just not conducive to education. Capitalism sort of makes sure of that. A good household environment will work better for improving the education of someone than anything else. When you're struggling to survive, usually an education is the least of your worries. And so, these environments that are poor for education, then breed people who have a low quality of education, which breeds more environments poor for education. It's a pretty shit cycle. So really in order to begin certain individual changes like this, you have to start by doing very wide, sweeping changes across the entire country (such as, improving the social systems offered by the state, in order to improve the environment for our youth, in order to improve the quality of their education).

And most Americans are either too scared to do it, or too invested in their "free markets and capitalism will always point us in the right direction" (libertarians/other right wingers) bullshit to ever think it possible that the country can change.

Halbrium · 1年前

Leftism is actually rather unpopular in the US. Liberalism does not equal Leftism. In fact, it's quite frequent that you will see Leftists trash or mock liberals. There is a rather large gap between what even liberals in America are willing to accept (let alone anyone to the right of them) and what leftists want. And just because someone supports a policy just to the left of your beliefs does not in any way mean they support leftism. You sound like a right wing talk show host lol

wykrhm · 1年前

I was crying during them yelling "THIS IS PILE OF SHIT GAME"

wykrhm · 1年前

If you didn't watch the last half of that game with Korean casters, you did it wrong.

Barbx · 1年前

Wut. That's just not true. Do you believe that the only way to change policies in the government is to become a member of government yourself and pass your own laws?

This is the same concept. People are asking for something to be changed. They can listen, they can not listen. I don't need to code my own game. And isn't it circular reasoning? Games are suited to me because games suited to me are popular so games should be suited to me to making them popular. That's just wrong, very illogical.

Barbx · 1年前

Hi, also hardcore male gamer here. How come games have to be 'suited to you'? Why can't they be suited to everyone? And how come if I want something different, I have to 'code my own'? No one is FORCING anyone to do anything. Anita is merely making videos to bring public awareness. If this public awareness leads to change in the industry, due to popular demand, then doesn't that mean that would be what gaming 'culture' is trending towards?

Barbx · 1年前

Well, you're doing the exact same thing, so it looks like this is just a whole big cycle of shit.

Barbx · 1年前

Well, this guy implying that criticism is censorship is absolutely silly.

But I think the problem you're having in understanding this is that you think YOU are the target audience for games. You're wrong, the target audience for games should be Everyone, not just you.

So she is saying, hey, here's 51% of the world's population that would feel more comfortable with gaming if you tweaked a few things. She's not saying you're not allowed to enjoy games, she's saying that games can be made better and more accepting for other people. If you don't feel that's a noble effort, that's fine. She certainly has no direct power over any video game companies. But the idea that she's swooping down to make you hate video games when 1) she's merely offering a criticism of the industry and 2) she plays/likes games herself is pretty opaque in itself.

Barbx · 1年前

Wait what. So movie critics are actually speech suppressors? I'm confused. Is RottenTomatoes secretly a front for the National Socialist party? Did Roger Ebert hate freedom? I'm so confused.

brandyreddit · 1年前

Wouldn't that kind of be the point? Many people already claim we put too much of an emphasis on higher education, and with that the price of higher education has skyrocketed. It's not that they'd give up education in place of working, but that they would be putting less of an emphasis on "bachelor's degree or fuck you" mentality that has a grip on jobs today. It would say "it's ok, college doesn't have to be the end all be all in order for you to be successful. you can still get a job somewhere else and not have to struggle to survive."

catastros · 1年前

I think it was more toward the general attitude of this entire thread, maybe not Sigseg in general. That's how I understood it at least. shrug

catastros · 1年前

I believe the point they were making is that all of the whining about 'double standards' and that somehow women are to blame are not true, since in both sexism against men and sexism against women, men are the perpetrators (in this instance)

sorryistabbedinureye · 1年前

Please do not fool yourself, this is not a discussion. This is an education. I am educating you. I'm sorry that you feel you're above being talked down to, but your actions prove otherwise to me. You need to be informed of what your inaction is doing and if you're not adult enough to handle the responses, that's not my problem.

sorryistabbedinureye · 1年前

Lmao, tone argument bullshit.

"Aww, you're not speaking nicely now about my passive acceptance of hate speech so now I'm just going to dismiss you and claim YOU'RE the bad one."

If you disagree with me, you're on the wrong end of this. That's not self-righteousness or ignorance, that legitimately you being on the side of hate speech, homophobes, racists. Being passive only allows their behavior to continue, and all your whiny 'aww you were mean to me so it only proves that i was right and can walk away from this' bullshit won't change that.

sorryistabbedinureye · 1年前

Ignore, don't respond to it and it dies. Don't let it hurt you and eventually it fade out.

Are you... serious? The word has been ignored. That's how it got this bad. Also, you're under the false presumption that the only type of responses that exist are "ignore it" or "fight it" and you're forgetting what is likely the MOST COMMON response to the use of the word, which is 'acknowledge, accept, and repeat.'

Like, lol, are you really that dense? You think by continuing to ignore a word we've ignored since it's use (and by ignore, I mean not fight back against its use), it's going to somehow tire itself out? Are you for real? That's the most illogical shit I've ever heard. You 'personally I hate the word but nothing should be done about it' people are fucking tiring, either shut the fuck up with your terrible opinions or actually stop being a shitty person and get off the sidelines.

Why do you think people don't constantly throw around the word cracker? Because no one lets it hurt them.

That's just some false logic right there. The word cracker has ZERO power. How about you have historical cases where for centuries someone is getting beaten to death while being called 'ni--er' or 'fa--ot' and then come talk to me about how 'no one lets it hurt them'.

Seriously, if you don't think it can be stopped, then shut the fuck up because you're useless.

sorryistabbedinureye · 1年前

Why do people say you can't eliminate a word like that? Of course you can. The point isn't to make it a genius invention that makes everyone forget the word exists, the point is to make saying the word taboo. The point is to bring attention to how shitty the word is. You say that like "sure the word is bad but you'll never make people stop using it" but why is our job to simply accept how childish and unevolved people are? By saying "just ignore it" all you're doing is giving people free reign to use the word. It doesn't make any sense.

Corwinator · 1年前

The problem came when the campaign spending issue was highlighted.

Incontrovertible · 1年前

I see what you're saying, and I realize that we are both arriving at the same conclusion. I just think that the path we take to the conclusion does indeed matter. In your post, you say that child labor was ended for economic reasons, not for moral reasons. Does that mean that if child labor became economically viable again, you'd support it? And I understand the difference between making something valuable and forcing something to be valued, but I think that 'subsidizing' people, as it were, is needed to happen until someone can live off of minimum wage. There's a finite amount of jobs, and only so many of those are livable incomes, so either you force the minimum wage workers to be paid more money by the corporations, or you force them onto welfare, in which case they're paid for by the people.

Incontrovertible · 1年前

I mean, sure, but that doesn't mean anything. Of course everyone struggling survive would love to choose more money, but that's just not possible, so what was the point of even bringing that up? lol

Incontrovertible · 1年前

Then we're just gonna have to disagree on the fact that morality doesn't belong in discussions of money. I personally think that's harmful. Dehumanizing the issue of economy is going to get people killed.

Incontrovertible · 1年前

Essentially, increasing the minimum wage is like creating a union for America that says, "we can't live on $5 / hr, so you must pay us $8 / hr."

Right, and that's a good thing. Because in terms of your first sentence, I'm not sure how many lower class environments you've been in, but people don't simply "choose" to work for more money. That's absurd. They still need to live and eat. They're going to choose minimum wage over 0 dollars, because that's the only chance they have to survive.

Incontrovertible · 1年前

While I agree in theory with what you're saying, I'd like to clarify something.

However, when people unwisely arrange their lives around unsustainable incomes

I think the problem with this attitude is that it's dehumanizing the issue of economy. No one is WILLINGLY choosing to work for minimum wage as their sole source of income. But statistically, there's only so many non-minimum wage jobs. Life happens, people get thrown into shitty situations. It has nothing to do with willingness, it has to do with life. So that further adds a moral obligation (yes, I know that economics deal very little with morality) to raise the minimum wage, along with your practical reasons. I just think the idea of treating minimum wage workers as failures is doing a disservice to the complicated nature of life.

moby323 · 1年前

I don't even hate you, I just think we're bickering probably the most useless thing to ever bicker over in the history of the internet.

I hate myself for even bothering.

moby323 · 1年前

sorry this is legit one of the most boring and pointless discussions I've had recently and I hate myself for having even continued it.

We're arguing about nothing, how sad. Sorry I dragged you into this.

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