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[–]BeneathTheRainbow 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 21時間前* (85子コメント)

So... if you want to bring this up... are you willing to kick out /u/illuminatedwax and install /u/Ambiguously_Ironic or /u/axolotl_peyotl as the top mods here? I do like /u/Sarah_Connor, but I don't see as much activity there. edit: shoutout to /u/SovereignMan as I believe he is honest also.

There really is no argument that illuminated has zero credibility and simply appears to be squatting on a sub that may have some importance these days.

And, seriously guys... if you trust Flytape, then you must be joking. You can thank him for allowing /u/blacksunalchemy back into the sub after me and /u/JamesColesPardon outed him for coming on alts and to upvote and agree with himself to give the appearance of credibility. Not to mention that we provided positive evidence that he is also modding /r/ZionistHQ and is using an alt to control /r/conservative under the /u/Jibrish and /u/Jibrish2 names. Oh yeah.. I almost forgot to mention his /u/nomed_yob account that is probably deleted by now. Not only that, but what could he possibly want with control of /r/stormfront for? I just want honest discussion... just as most of you do... and have no interest in racist bullshit... so why is he so damn interested in it?

Have fun with that. If Flytape wants to defend his decision, then I implore him to leak the mod discussion surrounding /u/blacksunalchemy's ban. Which.. btw.. he loves to make threads claiming he is a video expert but he designs signage in photoshop... clearly different things. Such garbage lies from that guy.

Here's the SRD thread about it.. and we know that they are no friends of ours: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/34a1gw/is_it_paid_government_shills_attacking_the/

From that thread here: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/34a1gw/is_it_paid_government_shills_attacking_the/cqsum89

In a funny turn of events the user that got banned apparently does use alts[1] (there are more links in later comments) to agree with himself.

Furthermore, he was doing it rather clumsily, which actually is exactly what you'd expect from a shill on the government's payroll! Wake up, sheeple!

So yeah.. we can all thank Flytape for this constant bullshit on this subreddit.

[–]axolotl_peyotl 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 18時間前 (18子コメント)

[–]blacksunalchemy -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 4時間前 (17子コメント)

[–]WideAwakeNWO 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 3時間前 (16子コメント)

[–]blacksunalchemy -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 2時間前 (15子コメント)

It's not my problem if people post obviously incorrect / false / distorted information. It doesn't matter who does it, I will call it out. That's my right as a user of Reddit. To make comments on things I agree and disagree with.

You can have your opinions and I can have mine, that's how this format works.

Beyond that, disagreeing with someone is not the same as attacking someone like you claim.

I contribute all the time with factual and science based information where I always provide links and sources to validate the claims I am making.

Yes I can be abrasive but so can you, and you are just as guilty of attacking others in this regard.

Calling me out and talking trash on me is not going to make me go away, I have been on this sub for 5+ years and will be here for another 5+ years to come.

[–]BeneathTheRainbow 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 2時間前 (14子コメント)

[–]blacksunalchemy -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 2時間前 (13子コメント)

[–]BeneathTheRainbow 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 2時間前 (12子コメント)

[–]JamesColesPardon 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前* (4子コメント)

Can confirm some of this. BTR and I did some digging after /u/blacksunalchemy and I went at in a thread a month or two ago about downvotes in the New Queue.

Have ignored BSA ever since the temporary ban, or our paths just haven't crossed.

I can't say for sure of course, but it appeared to me all of the convienently deleted accounts either were IRL people who were your buddies (nothing wrong with that, I guess) or socks.

I'm lean in towards the former for some it this, as there appeared to be some other legitimate accounts that matched their content and photos besides reddit (on Twitter and Linkedin), but that was just a few I looked into.

I don't want to step into a flamewar/dramafest here - but am honoring BTK's second summoning to chime in.

Believe whatever you want to believe - but if you treat others with respect and generally are here to learn things or teach things, I got no problem with ya.

That is all.

[–]BeneathTheRainbow 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)

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[–]BeneathTheRainbow 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間前 (5子コメント)

You're a liar. This is from a thread at the time of you getting caught: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/345ssr/rconspiracy_new_queue_moments_ago_notice_anything/cqs0yrw

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/323i2m/

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/33abma/

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2upxnf/rand_paul_mandatory_vaccines_first_step_to/cobbxo9

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2yqr91/ron_paul_predictions_back_in_2002still_think_he/

https://m.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2tek75/you_read_it_first_on_rconspiracy_hostage_video/?sort=hot

http://www.redditfun.com/reddit/funny/163070965/Harrison-Ford-in-the-new-live-action-Duck-Tales-movie Look! You are even there to cheerlead for him in /r/funny!

Wow... in just 2 minutes I can find 5 posts where our good friend nomed_yob walks in perfect lock-step with blacksunalchemy.

It's almost like this account exists just to try to give the perception of consensus and credibility to blacksunalchemy...

Funny how that username has now been magically deleted along with all of those comments after me and JamesColes called you out for it.

Dumping more links from a conversation I had with another mod:

So it looks like /u/75000_Tokkul [-2] seems to make SRD threads for our good friend blacksunalchemy.

Here is one about the current situation: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/34a1gw/is_it_paid_government_shills_attacking_the/

Here is another: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/2t79xu/is_this_isis_video_fake_rconspiracy_works_it_out/

and another: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/2tq2lr/thread_about_crisis_actors_in_rconspiracy_leads/?limit=500

They clearly don't make them about every little post, but anywhere that he is able to take control away and steer conversations seem to get a "LOL look how dumb" post.

He's desperate and I think this web is probably bigger than just what we have seen.

Lol@ this thread where he is talking to himself on his new /u/jibrish2 account: https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/pzecx/this_should_be_illegal_billionaire_sheldon/c3tmd4n?context=3

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/q44ma/ron_paul_quietly_amassing_an_army_of_delegates/c3ung47?context=3

Jesus... this guy is fucking crazy.

How do we know nomed_yob is him?

Oh? You posted that yourself! http://www.redditfun.com/reddit/funny/163070965/Harrison-Ford-in-the-new-live-action-Duck-Tales-movie

Here is a little post I made about nomed_yob on that thread a few days ago:

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/345ssr/rconspiracy_new_queue_moments_ago_notice_anything/cqs0yrw

Here is another good example:

LOL@this: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/u4yip/renoughpaulspam_user_games_downvotes_against/

So /u/blacksunalchemy used the /u/nomed_yob account to make a SRD thread about this post: http://www.reddit.com/r/shamelessplug/comments/u0wct/i_run_rdailydot_where_i_post_a_reddit_news/c4rmsnh

And he also "just coincidentally" happened to post on the m'lady thread here: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2kvxdw/my_friend_who_owns_a_photo_booth_had_a_halloween/

Along with both blacksunalchemy and jibrish2? The connection seems crystal clear to me.

Some of these are probably repeats, but that is what I have for now.

In summary, the known accounts linked to him so far are:

/u/blacksunalchemy /u/jibrish /u/jibrish2 /u/nomed_yob

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[–]Bartiemus 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 18時間前 (0子コメント)

[–]Flytape 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 16時間前 (62子コメント)

(http://www.reddit.com/message/messages/3dhuu7) for mod reference.

http://imgur.com/nYh4kSp public reference

BSA's ban was a temp ban for 7 days. Anyone who is banned is welcome to argue their case in the form of an appeal.

After 7 days I unbanned BSA because that's what was agreed upon.

You have a personal difference of opinion with BSA and that is your right, however making personal attacks against a user is against the rules here. The day that BSA was banned YOU were the user who started it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/345ssr/rconspiracy_new_queue_moments_ago_notice_anything/cqrubs6

If someone makes one unpopular comment such as https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/345ssr/rconspiracy_new_queue_moments_ago_notice_anything/cqrnxas

Are we going to devolve into a fucking mob and witch hunt people to death?

Even when they have made positive contributions such as

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/qo4la/look_who_just_became_moderators_for_ows/

And then you're going to witch hunt me because I unbanned the user at the end of the 7 day agreement?

Do you trust me now? When I come out with facts instead of emotional pleas to the mob.

[–]BeneathTheRainbow 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 14時間前* (28子コメント)

No. I don't trust you because your argument is bullshit.

After 7 days I unbanned BSA because that's what was agreed upon.

And the other mods argued to keep his ban permanent and you bullied them into making it temporary.

You have a personal difference of opinion with BSA and that is your right, however making personal attacks against a user is against the rules here. The day that BSA was banned YOU were the user who started it.

I started it? I wasn't the one who was going around and making alts to upvote and agree with myself. I don't come on this subreddit and insult the entire userbase. You were provided proof of this and you decided, against the judgement of the other other mods, to make the ban temporary. Any user here is free to look at blacksun's post history and decide for themselves whether he is an honest actor here. My judgement is that he is only here to disrupt and distract from the conversation.

And then you're going to witch hunt me because I unbanned the user at the end of the 7 day agreement?

You can call it a "witch hunt" all you want, but mischaracterizing the situation as such doesn't make it so. YOU went against the other mods and bullied them into unbanning someone who has a long history of insulting the userbase and derailing the conversations in here every chance they get.

You can act like a victim to try and garner sympathy, but any person who is actually an honest caretaker of this sub would not have gone to the effort to unban someone who was found gaming this sub and consistently insults the entire userbase.

I'm calling you out on your bullshit, Flytape. So go ahead and "Rule 10" me if you want because people that have no integrity can't tolerate criticism, which is why you put that there in the first place.

[–]Flytape -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 14時間前 (27子コメント)

Firstly I didn't make rule 10.

Secondly, in the link provided above YOU attacked BSA for disagreeing that a vote brigade was happening, he wasn't attacking anyone. You escalated the situation. You've had just as many breaks as he has but you want your cake and to eat it too.

If I was going to rule 10 you, it would have been here

Which would be, by definition, a conspiracy you fucking dumbass lying idiot.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3b22i2/if_you_want_to_show_people_what_a_conspiracy/csjx25i?context=3

Which was 2 days ago and it was silently removed by another mod and you weren't even given a warning. You got a break! And BSA didn't even freak out and whine about it while trying to pin all responsibility on a "corrupt mod that no one should trust".

I suggest you just relax and stop with the tears. We give people breaks because we are humans and we make mistakes, we sometimes give into our emotions and do stupid things. Everyone deserves a little slack.

You can call it a "witch hunt" all you want, but mischaracterizing the situation as such doesn't make it so.

You literally called me out as if BSA has some special protection from me. He doesn't. You started the fight and he reacted poorly, should we just ban everyone who gets antagonized into posting insults? If that's the case then you would be out the door with him. So please chill the fuck out man. Its not worth all the damn drama.

[–]WideAwakeNWO 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 3時間前 (10子コメント)

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[–]BeneathTheRainbow 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 14時間前* (15子コメント)

I don't need your "break" for calling out someone who has no business here in the first place. So you are now shadow-deleting comments from people that call out your buddy on his bullshit? I will stand by my statement that he is a "fucking dumbass lying idiot" because we've already shown that to be true.

Why didn't you provide this link which shows where the deleted username /u/nomed_yob was being used by him to upvote and agree with himself?

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/345ssr/rconspiracy_new_queue_moments_ago_notice_anything/cqryc76

You are so full of shit. There is no way you can spin this. If anyone else had been found doing this sort of thing, they would be gone. It is a legitimate question to ask why you would be so interested in making sure that this guy allowed to remain on the sub.

So tell us, Flytape, why was it such a concern for you to protect a person who was found using alts to give the appearance of consensus and consistently does his best to do nothing but shit all over this subreddit? This is not even to mention that you, yourself, were banned for using alts to

The only reasonable answer here is that you are also not an honest actor in the situation. If, on the off chance that you are honest, then the best answer is that your judgement is extremely flawed. If that is the case, then you have no business here either.

[–]Flytape 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 14時間前 (14子コメント)

[–]BeneathTheRainbow 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 14時間前* (0子コメント)

Oh wait you're still here and not banned. Fascinating.

If it would do any good to ban me, then you would. You know all about making new accounts, don't you? Why was it you were admin banned?

This was from one of the other mods:

For the record. I voted to keep the ban permanent.

and this was from yet another mod

Again between you and me, Flytape is defending BSA in the modmail. o_O

and another mod.

I'm wondering if BSA's old post history wasn't just a ruse to establish himself as a "legit user" only to later morph into the more subtle troll he's evidently become.

Because the other option would be that the original BSA's account was hijacked and is being used by someone else. Only problem with that is how would there be any guarantee that the real BSA wouldn't return on a different account at some later date and realize someone was using his old one?

You're right, makes me think the whole thing may go a bit deeper than it appears at first glance.

But go ahead and keep covering up for your "buddy", who would not be a buddy to someone who was an honest actor in all of this.

I implore the userbase to go through the disputed account's post history here http://www.reddit.com/user/blacksunalchemy and decide for yourself why Flytape would defend someone like this.

[–]Bohemos 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 11時間前 (12子コメント)

[–]Flytape -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 5時間前 (11子コメント)

[–]Bohemos 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5時間前 (10子コメント)

Yeah, 'under attack'.

I was here when it happened, we both know you weren't 'under attack' from half the people you banned.

It showed plenty well enough why you are here and what is actually important for you. That's why you didn't respond to it back then, and now again. You respond to snippets and ignore the drudgery portions

That's why a large portion of people don't want you as a mod, because it's very obvious to most of them that being mod is the most important thing to maintain, and the sub and everyone here is secondary to that.

That's why you can barely post half the time and you get a dozen comments a day. Which you can pretend are shill accounts and all from the same small minority or whatnot.

We both know the truth of it though.

I know better than most here that there's no real point in making the posts toward you, so I rarely do it. You want mod more than you want anything else, and there's nothing anyone can do about that, not even the other mods will stand up and do anything about and we all know why.

But at least I know that you know, no matter what you say, it's plain enough to both of us.

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