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[–]Piroko 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you are arguing with someone who states that gender is a social construct point them to these studies.

Doesn't work.

It just doesn't work. Reason and fact do not work on these people.

[–]trphardmode 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

This. If they were going to come to their senses, they would have already - at least enough to be in the "I'm just not going to discuss feminism/race" phase.

[–]Piroko 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is only one argument that wins against irrational people. All we can do is walk away, and fight if they make a fight of it.

We must secede.

[–]BlaiseDB 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Get a copy of Brainwash. It is from Norway but it demonstrates many times that males and females are innately different. However, social scientists simply assume - as a matter of ideology - that any differences are due to social programming. It takes them a while but they finally admit that they ignore the evidence and research and proceed on the basis that their ideology is fact, and that drives all of their other theories.

[–]alreadyredschool 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

These guys are like creationists, there is no point in discussing with them. Everything is a mix of nature and nurture.

And if you hear: "the differences between two individuals are far greater than the differences between the genders" then run. For them the exceptions of rules are the rules, the differences between the average men and the average women are far greater than the differences between most men.

[–]flying_cumshot -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

I took a core university requirement class at one of the top public university in California. We spent a good amount of the class studying how "gender" and "race" was a social construct.

It was very interesting to say at the last. There were many different real-life examples, analysis of what actually entails and define "sex" and "gender" and "race" in different societies under different contexts.

Long story short, western academics began to view "gender" as a social construct because although biology determines whether a human's chromosomal and anatomical sex is male or female (or in some cases intersex), the state of personally identifying as, or being identified by society as, belonging to neither the male or female genders is defined by the individual's gender identity and gender role in society. There were instances of "third gender" happening in all different types of cultures over the world. Their role in societies and how they were identified were neither men nor woman, or it could've been a mixture of both.

One notable example were the indigenous native tribes of America. Some tribes specifically assigned a third gender role in their society. And as you know even today, there are many individuals that identify themselves as different genders that are neither "man" nor "woman".

I think today in western society, scholars try to separate the terms, "biological sex" and "gender" and treat them as two different things.

[–]JohnCashMoney[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

My argument is that gender roles are to a certain role biological. After all, in nature men and women have different roles, for example it is the woman who has to carry the baby in her stomach and give birth...etc.

So this means that men and women are wired differently and that is the basis for gender. Gender to a large extent is biological in nature and tests as the one on monkeys prove it. Otherwise how would the fact that male monkeys went for guy toys and female monkeys went for girl toys be a social construct?

[–]flying_cumshot 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not trying to argue with you. I do agree gender roles and behavior stem from biological influences. But at the same time, many human societies have also created new and different gender roles. This is the reason for why scholars have started calling gender "a social construct". Just letting you know where and why that idea came from.

[–]JohnCashMoney[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No problem...we are having a discussion, so that is about different views :) thanks for your input