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DiscussionMindless Monday, 29 June 2015 (self.badhistory)

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[–]arminius_sawI would totally bang Hitler (with a Browning HP) 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

I can't sleep because I'm stressed, which stresses me out because I need sleep. Or at least I think that's what's going on. It's 6:00 AM over here and I'm pretty sure I've been awake all night. I'm so tired.

So here's a game: name a fruit or vegetable and I'll tell you the PLU code for it. So for example you'd say "bananas" and I'd say "4011." I call this game "Putting my Bachelor's Degree to good use!"

It's really something to realize that your most marketable skills are scooping ice cream and bagging groceries, is all (although I will give PLU codes if somebody is actually bored enough to find it entertaining). I mean, maybe I'm just acting entitled, but after going through all the trouble of getting a degree from a moderately prestigious university (well, prestigious for Canada, anyway, but to be fair nobody gives a shit about Canada) it's hard to look at the return and not feel lied to.

Okay, Imma try to get some sleep. Thankfully I don't have to work tomorrow today, so I can get...five or so hours of sleep if I conk out now. Still need to go to the gym, though. That'll be fun.

[–]Opinionated-LegateGladius > Katana 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

that vicious cycle of stress and no sleep is indeed terrible. My wife gets it a lot and I've had it on multiple occasions. Hoping you get some sleep and rest, and good luck in the gym. I have trouble with gyms. They don't like me and I don't like them.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know if it helps at all, but I completely understand where you're coming from. It's incredibly tough to look at everything a degree promises and everything you dreamed it would give you, and then look at the reality of the world around you. One way to look at it is that a degree in a certain field helps you help that field, whether it be by making academic contributions, sharing your knowledge, or what have you. It's a contribution to the world, but it's not always the most direct. A service job like working in a grocery store helps people eat. It puts food on people's tables, and provides them with something they need. It's not what you intended to be doing, true, but it's still something that's a vital part of society, and a vital part of a complex infrastructure.

I don't know if it helps at all to think of it that way. It's how I thought of working in Korea, and it's what got me to sleep there at night, when I slept. I think it also helps to know that life changes. You will not always be in a grocery store, bagging items and scooping ice cream. All your dreams might not come true, but some of them will. If you look at what you have and what you can do with it, it helps takes away the pain of what never happened. Trust me, I know. But you know we're here if you need us, and if it really does get to be too much. We're here to help, and we want to help, Arminius. :)

[–]mudsill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it also helps to know that life changes. You will not always be in a grocery store, bagging items and scooping ice cream.

have history degree, first job when I moved to Chicago was literally scooping ice cream. It's not like I get to use my degree at my current job all the time, but it helps to know that the scooping ice cream part usually doesn't last forever.

And even if it does, I kinda feel sometimes like I produced more value to the world scooping ice cream than I do in an office.

[–]JackalSkullLas Malvinas son de Antártica! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Avocado, Garlic, Asparagus, Pear!

[–]TurnshroudLiterally Hitler 5ポイント6ポイント  (16子コメント)

I saw Jurassic World on Saturday. Some of the acting was meh and didn't sense. But, it's a Jurassic Park movie. You don't see i9t for the writing and the typical and overplayed Crichton trope of "don't fuck with nature"--you see it for the DINOSAURS THAT EAT PEOPLE AND OTHER DINOSAURS. That ending was fucking epic. Also: relevant video.

[–]tobbinatorFrancisco Franco, Caudillo de /r/Badhistory 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

Can I just complain about how dreadful their emergency procedures were? I mean, sitting and waiting hours for ferries to slowly take everyone off the island, really?

[–]pittfan46 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thst was the point tho, man didn't prepare well enough because arrogance.

[–]tobbinatorFrancisco Franco, Caudillo de /r/Badhistory 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I thought the arrogance is just why they delayed calling for the evacuation so late?

[–]pittfan46 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Probably both. And making super dinosaurs

[–]tobbinatorFrancisco Franco, Caudillo de /r/Badhistory 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Super dinosaurs are cool tho

[–]facecubenever go full volcano 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Somehow they managed to go to 'ferry arrives in 45 minutes' to NO ONE LEFT ON THE ISLAND in between scenes. Do you have any idea how long it takes to load 20,000 people on a boat, many of them wounded? A LONG TIME

[–]pittfan46 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

The moment when you realize it's gonna be a t Rex vs indominus Rex fight was glorious. Inner 12 year old was satisfied.

[–]Turin_The_MormegilDAGOTH-UR-WAS-A-VOLCANO 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not only is it a T-Rex vs iRex fight- it's the Rex from the original Jurassic Park coming out of retirement to put down the new challenger!

[–]hussard_de_la_mort"sandwich in my right, .45 in my other hand" 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

FINALLY, THE REX HAS COME BACK TO JURASSIC PARK!

[–]TurnshroudLiterally Hitler 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

God bless you T-Rex.

[–]pittfan46 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was freaking out when it was happening. Tears in my eyes. The movie was everything I expected it to be. Cheesy and fun.

[–]Georgy_K_ZhukovLend Lease? We don't need no stinking 'Lend Lease'! 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just want the spin off of Chris Prat and his Raptor pack having awesome adventures.

[–]MBarry829As decreed by Father Abraham 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Things that bothered me in the movie:

  • The kids
  • Claire wearing high heels the whole time
  • Claire's assistant had a horribly gruesome death and didn't seem to deserve it

Things that were so awesome that the other stuff didn't matter

  • Rexy
  • Blue

[–]TurnshroudLiterally Hitler 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The whole divorce thing and the sudden romance was bothersome too BUT GOD DAMN IT REXXY AND THE MOSASAUR!

[–]MBarry829As decreed by Father Abraham 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty much. Before Rexxy appeared I found myself groaning a lot. Sure there were some cool scenes but a lot was really silly (at least silly in the context of the tone of the original JP, not a summer movie). Then Rexxy appeared and all was right with the world.

Can we talk seriously about how poor of an idea weaponizing dinosaurs is? It's bad enough that my friends and I used to joke about it. We figured that raptors would be a great weapon to fight zombies. But then what to do with the raptors once they're loose? Well you get some T-Rexes? How do you deal with the zombie T-Rexes (or Z-Rex)? Well, at that point an Abrams tank should work pretty well.

[–]DirishVeni, Vidi, Predatori 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

After seeing that one I've rewatched all the other three (as you do) and spotted that the geneticist from the first film is also in the last one.

That made me think, and I've come to the conclusion that he is beyond criminally irresponsible. What do you do after predators take apart the first park? Make more, and bigger ones and release them on the second island. There they kill and kill in JP 2 and 3, but I'm sure it's perfectly safe to add them to the JW park again and make even bigger and badder ones.

That guy has made more bad decisions than anyone else in the series, and at after his sneaky escape, I'm beginning to wonder if he's not just a classic Bad Guy. He's one "Muhahahahah" from his villain badge.

[–]Opinionated-LegateGladius > Katana 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

Good morning Bad History! I've missed reading you guys the past couple weeks, been very hit and miss. I just returned from an overseas trip with my military unit, so that took up a lot of my time and I didn't have much free energy for Reddit.

• As I said in the moratorium thread, I oppose a moratorium on the principles of free markets, capitalism, and good old fashioned anarchy. Join the Revolution! (Or join in the fight for monarchy and oligarchy and autocracy and all those other good things. I'm open to that as well.)

• My facebook page looks like the skittles factory and the Confederacy were fighting. Lots of news on those fronts that I'm still sorting through.

• I'm disappointed more people here in the US aren't paying as much attention as they should be to the terrorist attacks in Paris, Tunisia, an other places last week. A lot of people died and it's something that is only going to get worse.

• I've got a couple personal blog posts I'd like to get up this week, so those are my primary concern, but I'm hoping for a post here this week. I've got to figure out if it's actually worth the time.

• I just finished reading Anthony Everitt's "The Rise of Rome" and I found it very interesting. My primary interest is the Classical world, particularly Rome, and he had been recommended as good reading by a professor. I thought he was good, he made it interesting without being too engaged in a story narrative and forsaking the actual historical events. But, as with anything dealing with the early Roman Kingdom and Republic, there is a lot of opinion and speculation in some areas. I would recommend however. Anyone else read that book or his other books and would like to throw in their 2 cents?

[–]pittfan46 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

To be fair,a lot of the early republic and regal period of Rome is speculation. The gauls sacked rome in 390 BC which destroyed a lot of records.

I mean do you honestly think there were only 7 kings from 753 BC to 509 BC.

I thought it was good, he seemed to simplify a lot of the conflicts but I suppose that made for easy reading

[–]Opinionated-LegateGladius > Katana 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

absolutely, that is the definite downfall of the period. Any author, no matter what, ends up with a lot of what they think went on. That aspect and the records we do have are what Everitt balanced well in my opinion.

And hey man, there could have been 7 kings. The illuminati have been ruling the world for a long time, anything is possible.

[–]pittfan46 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I thought it was a good read if anything. I don't know if what he said was true about Rome going to war with southern italy. He made a dramatic passage where the Greeks disrespected the Roman embassies in....tarentum?

Obviously it was the joos who ruled rome duh.

[–]Opinionated-LegateGladius > Katana 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think it was Tarentum, though he did portray the Romans as very conniving in terms of getting their way through use of emissaries in a very aggressive manner haha. The fides romana was very interesting.

Dude, you've been blinded like the rest of the sheeple. The joos are only the fall guy.

[–]pittfan46 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the Romans were able to convince themselves thst they were truly "protecting Rome" through imperialism. It made sense to a point, but when you're fighting a war in Macedonia "in the defense of Rome," there's something wrong.

[–]NabokchoyI am become Verdun, diviser of Europa 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Finished Blackadder Goes Forth last night. Spent a great deal of time sobbing on my cat. Decided it was a good idea to watch a Paths of Glory, J'Accuse double-feature after that.

Am officially a glutton for misery.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh lord. Goodbyeeee is one of the saddest moments in television history. Welcome to the other side.

[–]laertes78 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Gentlemen of [this board], there are times that I'm ashamed to be a member of the human race and this is one such occasion."

I totally just now read that parts of Paths of Glory were filmed in the (then still bombed) Schleißheim.

Have you seen La grande illusion? I like Gabin and Stroheim in that.

And for the double double feature, and to round things off, one could watch All quiet on the Western Front after.

The four movies would be 8 hours and 17 minutes runtime.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Schleißheim

That's the most important l in Germany.

[–]laertes78 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, it is.

that which we call Schleißheim

By any other name would look as magnificent;

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

I did a 24 hour playfest on Saturday. The way it works is that each team is given a prompt, and then has twelve hours to write a play, then twelve hours to learn it and perform it. I wrote this play about a superhero support group. Everyone had trouble learning their lines, and when we actually performed it, it went off script pretty much instantly. Half the jokes weren't performed, and the half that were were in the completely wrong order. My team still won, though, through my ability to convince the judges that we totally knew what we were doing, and that I totally meant to write it that way. It was good fun.

I also had a games day on Sunday. I dragged my board games collection to my old university, and sat there playing games of one kind or another for twelve straight hours. It was glorious, and it was decided by all that we should do this more often. I also learned that my little sister has a hell of a poker face (and that games sessions are greatly improved when everyone has to watch their mouths and come up with new and more interesting ways to swear so that they don't hurt a ten-year-old's virgin ears). Again, wonderful.

And I have been visited by the irony faerie. For the last six months, I've been applying for jobs so I can get out of this place and go somewhere more stable. On Thursday night, my husband - who has not been doing this - got offered a job out of the blue. He has a job, and I am still in limbo. I'm happy and jealous, but above all, just relieved, so incredibly relieved.

[–]pittfan46 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Just keep with it. You'll get something eventually. My dad always said getting the job is the hard part.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

That's very true. I'm still waiting to hear back from St. Paul, but considering it's taking this long, I'm not optimistic.

[–]pittfan46 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

St. Paul is a school?

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

No, I interviewed for a job there. It's just easier to say "St. Paul" than "that job I interviewed for a couple weeks ago that I was really excited about, but in retrospect maybe shouldn't have spent the money getting to because yeah, I didn't do so well on the interview."

[–]pittfan46 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

You should call and ask about it. It can't hurt. They'll either say no or yes. It'll show you're actually interested in working for them.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I sent an e-mail, but I'll call later today. Thanks for the suggestion!

[–]pittfan46 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea it's easy to ignore an email, not so much an actual person talking to you.

[–]pittfan46 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Hey guys,

My plans to go to Pittsburgh ' s Waterpark, sandcastle, fell through because it decided to rain all day. Yup. Flash flood, tornadoes and storm watches all day.

We all saw Ted 2 then went to Dave and busters so it was still a good time.

I really want to know where I'm being placed in CityYear New York so I can organize housing. If it's too much trouble,I might just live at home.

/r/HistoricalWorldPowers is getting interesting again which means I will need to be active a lot more then I should.

Howre all you guys?

[–]Opinionated-LegateGladius > Katana 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Was Ted 2 worth seeing? First one was hilarious, but I had doubts about this second one. . . .

[–]pittfan46 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you expect live action family guy type humor, then yes, it is worth seeing.

[–]hussard_de_la_mort"sandwich in my right, .45 in my other hand" 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

It involves stealing Tom Brady's sperm. How could it not be amazing?

[–]Opinionated-LegateGladius > Katana 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I suppose this is very true haha

[–]pittfan46 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"It's a 317"

"What's a 317?"

"Someone tried to steal Tom Brady's sperm again"

[–]viralmysteriesWhite people stole four continents 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've played close to 70 hours of the Witcher 3 in the last week and a half. Holy shit that game is amazing. For the three people who can handle that game at high resolutions and high fps, damn do I reccomend it.

Went to Busch Gardens VA yesterday. Had a great time. They need work on their fast pass system.

[–]8BallTigerInvest in confederate Bonds, the South will rise again! 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Submitted a paper proposal for a conference so fingers crossed. The church I go to when I'm at my parents house (and I'm technically a member of) voted to leave the denomination. Oh and Fallout New Vegas has been winning the battle for my attention against the books and articles I actually need to read.

[–]Opinionated-LegateGladius > Katana 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

which denomination, if you don't mind me asking? I'm non-denominational and I'm always interested in keeping up with the latest large and small schisms.

[–]8BallTigerInvest in confederate Bonds, the South will rise again! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're leaving PCUSA because that's going way down hill fast. Thankfully the church I go to at school is PCA

[–]jonewerThe library at Louvain fired on the Germans first 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Went to Tankfest this past weekend.

Bovington is probably the Best Museum in the World (tm), but oh maaaan it was crawling with wehraboos! One even got down on his knees on the chalk and flit ground and literally started worshipping Tiger 131.

Meanwhile bad history abounded - apparently machine guns were the reason for the western front stale-mate and spitfires won the Battle of Britain.

As a bonus though, I managed to pick up some bits of fossilised tree while walking on the beach!

[–]Elm11History [his-tree]. A series of smug judgements about the past. 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, heck. I went to Sinnsheim Tank museum in Germany back in 2013, which was quiet and pretty cool thanks to being practically empty. I suppose a lot of people draw their interest in tanks from 'big armoured steel thing with giant explodey-tube,' and don't really go much further than the World of Tanks forums to back it up. That's fair enough, but obviously leads to a mess in situations like Tankfest. :P

(Incidentally, I love me some World of Tanks. But for the love of God avoid the community.)

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Spitfire did win the Battle of Britain. Its sexy, sexy curves distracted the German pilots from the Hurricanes coming to tear them all up.

[–]tobbinatorFrancisco Franco, Caudillo de /r/Badhistory 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

No fun Australian politics from the last few days to update you all on. Good job on the gay marriage stuff, America, you're now ahead of Australia regarding LGBT rights.

Update on Thursday's post; went out on Friday night, it was fun but I don't think I'm the type to pursue much further with her. Still pretty friendly though, so a satisfying outcome for both parties.

Since semester's now over, I've got a lovely month of doing absolutely nothing. Fun. At least I managed to find some kind of work, but dear god is it tedious.

Also I did the obligatory /r/europe visit after that attack in southern France and the one in Tunisia, just to reaffirm my hate for that god damn subreddit.

[–]Elm11History [his-tree]. A series of smug judgements about the past. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I spent, like, ten minutes celebrating the gay marriage ruling. Then remembered I'm Australian. But it was fun to get caught up in the moment. :P

[–]purefabulousityMayan girls have babies at 8, 9, and 10 years 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sent in my financial aid information for the third time. I hope I get work study so I can keep my job at the school's pub and have some money for living expenses.

[–]piwikiwi 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Has the EU collapsed yet?

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb一柱亭亭獨立時/ 狂瀾怒觸未曾欹/ 誰言東魯斯文喪/贏得千秋永賴之 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I assume it's going to last a few decades at least, though I wouldn't really know.

[–]piwikiwi 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Better question: has Greece collapsed yet?

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb一柱亭亭獨立時/ 狂瀾怒觸未曾欹/ 誰言東魯斯文喪/贏得千秋永賴之 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably not. It might reach 100000 citizens soon

[–]MBarry829As decreed by Father Abraham 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good morning /r/badhistory!

So I've been reddit-squating on a sub called /r/mosaicearth the last few weeks. The inspiration to do so came after I found some sub that specialize in running in map games, and led me down a rabbit hole in exploring such games on other web fora (again).

What is mosaic earth intended to be? Well back in my alternatehistory.com days I was involved in running and playing this map game. The core concept involved transporting various countries with different points of departures (PODs) to a single Earth and the free playing what happens next. Our most successful game ran for about 6 months and was probably one of the most fun things I've done on the internets before.

So, I have the sub and very little idea what to do with it besides that. I've never moderated a sub before, and haven't ran a game like that in almost 10 years. So I suppose I'd like to ask for help in nearly all areas. If you're willing of course.

[–]jaguarlyra 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Over the weekend I discovered I have a massive phobia of roaches. Now I can only sleep with the lights on.

[–]facecubenever go full volcano 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

We found a stray dog yesterday. Poor thing was just covered in fleas and really, really skinny. She's really sweet but I'm worried about what to do with her. She had a microchip but the family isn't picking up the phone or calling back. She had a collar from the pound too, they said she had been in there two weeks ago, but she had been picked up. So either she's an escape artist or her family are jerks.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

It's possible she was abandoned. A lot of people do that when they move and don't want to or are not able to take their pets with them.

[–]facecubenever go full volcano 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

I hope not :(

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Microchips usually have an address as well, if I'm not mistaken. Is that address close by that you could go knock on their door?

Although, to be honest, if she's not been abandoned, it's sounds like she's being abused if she's in such bad shape.

[–]facecubenever go full volcano 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The company that handles the microchip won't give me any information about the owner. Just the dog's name and they'll call them. I'm hoping they're just out of town or something, I'm going to take care of her for a week or so and if I haven't gotten ahold of them (we put her on facebook and stuff) then we'll figure something out.

I don't think she's abused, I think she had just been on the streets for a while. She's way affectionate in a way I don't think abused dogs generally are. Underneath the fleas and the skinny she's pretty healthy, according to the vet. She got two baths yesterday. Didn't like that.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope it works out, then. It sounds like they abandoned her, though. :(

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thank you for reminding me to update the address on my cats microchip.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've been meaning to do it for my cat as well. I'm not sure how to do it anymore, though, since it was implanted years ago, and I'm not sure what company it's from.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think I still have the papers in my car, so I'll have to find the website.

Maybe open your cat up and take a look? The company logo might be on the chip.

[–]Minihawking 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

.... Now I gotta update my Dogs' chip, thanks for the reminder.

[–]anthropology_nerdGuns, Germs, and Generalizations 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Internship interviews are finished, not is just the waiting game to hear back. I have a 50 minute presentation in two weeks that is 100% of my grade for one class.

The end of school is tantalizingly close, my friends.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My response to someone asking why a sailor would need a bayonet started some weird badhistory yesterday, mixed in with some badbasicmilitarypractice.

So that was fun.

Most of the weekend was devoted to watching football come home. It was the most stressful Saturday I've had in ages.

[–]spinosaurs70[persia was way better than greece] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Worst askhistorians post of the week? Just kinda curious .