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[–]yeswesodacan 318ポイント319ポイント  (15子コメント)

He's describing Babe.

[–]Gengar11Piccadilly Whore! 77ポイント78ポイント  (3子コメント)

Seriously like wtf. How did he not catch that?

BA RAM YOU BA RAM YOU

[–]KR60 261ポイント262ポイント  (98子コメント)

Vegan Gains is the ultimate curlbro.

Solid arms and shoulders but his chest is non-existent and so are his legs

[–]shemperdoodle 128ポイント129ポイント  (48子コメント)

I had just heard of this dude so I had to look up some info.

Training for 8 years

6'3", 180lbs

Squat 3RM 205lbs

Yep, checks out.

[–]eXXaXion 76ポイント77ポイント  (37子コメント)

What? You can squat 205lbs for 3RM if without any bodybuilding experience, just by having a histoy in sports.

[–]no_dice 47ポイント48ポイント  (14子コメント)

Been lifting for about 6 months now -- started with an empty bar and did 5x5 @ 200lbs today.

[–]Thermoelectric 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I did 3 months non-stop (didn't miss a leg day) and was doing 300 safely (didn't push further b/c didn't feel safe). But I also had a history in leg-involved athletics. Point is, 205 is weak for 8 years. GJ on your gains though!

[–]jollycooperation420 12ポイント13ポイント  (8子コメント)

Sounds about right on Stronglifts, you go up about 10 - 15lbs per week on squats, and it's rare to plateau before you hit 2 plates.

[–]Beanies 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

Saying it's rare to plateau before hitting 2 plate squat is in itself quite wrong, because the bodyweight of the person has a huge factor in when they begin to plateau.

[–]no_dice 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm going a bit slower than 10-15, I'm at about 5/week now. I need to eat more.

[–]jollycooperation420 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

well whatever. Eat more, make sure you rest, even 5/week is totally fine. You have all the time in the world, you'll plateau eventually anyway, but 5/ week is still gains.

[–]john_donnie 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

serious? how much do you weigh? i started squatting like 6 months ago too and i can do like 162 lb for a 3 reps or so. then again i only weight 145 lb...

[–]shemperdoodle 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I'm 5'8" and I could squat that after about 3 months of work.

I believe it if he only weighs 180 at 6'3". Anyone who has been bodybuilding for 8 years should have a BMI well into "overweight" or even "obese", so he's obviously doing something wrong. I also read that he can't even bench 2 plates.

[–]BestSellerTomClancy 19ポイント20ポイント  (9子コメント)

135lb girl squats 205lbs

You know, I do a bit of weight lifting in my bedroom after I wake up. I thought I was doing badly, because I could only clean and jerk 180lbs. I'm 6ft6, this is a reasonable amount to lift. I don't go to a gym, at all.

How is possible that guy can only squat 205lbs after 8 years? That's some seriously bad progress.

I mean, he's a grown man who lift weights. Yet he can't lift the equivalent of a washing machine?

Wtf?

Plus he's really scrawny. It's absolutely strange. Doesn't he eat any protein?

[–]ChibiSF 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, if you're going to give embarrassing examples, then here's a 16 year old girl from China weighing just about 105 lbs with a 230 lb power clean then putting it over her head. Twice.

[–]B_Rad_Gesus 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

He has no idea how to workout or eat the proper amounts of macros for any meaningful size/strength gains.

[–]unlock0 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

to be fair.. all the girls I know that lift focus pretty heavily on squats.

[–]TheBanimal 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I have been training for a about 6 months and can squat 205lb for 5 reps, so this guy must have missed a lot of leg days.

[–]Arqideus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was at a 3x5 195 squat as a 225 lbs. fatty.

[–]TPRT 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Squat 3RM 205lbs

Holy fuck are you kidding me.

[–]DaggerMoth 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shit I first squatted 225 at 150lbs with 1 year of weight training back in the high school days.

[–]OnSnowWhiteWings 43ポイント44ポイント  (8子コメント)

[–]KamikazeSexPilot 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is that for real?

[–]monkeyjay 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah he's just trying to make his traps look bigger by rotating his scapula up which makes his lats disappear. I can do this too and it looks super weird. Can also do the opposite and make negative traps with big 'lats'. That combined with his likely 'all-arms' workout makes for a strange pic.

[–]AR-47 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wtf?

[–]bl1nds1ght 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely no chest or delts and is all tri and bicep.

It looks really fucking weird.

[–]Lord_of_the_Dance 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

He looks like he forgot his chest exists, I suppose his traps are okay because you have to pick up the dumbbells off the rack.

He looks like some sort of videogame mob to me.

[–]WillLie4karma 69ポイント70ポイント  (30子コメント)

What do you expect? He doesn't get enough protein to cover his whole body.

[–]Drezair 65ポイント66ポイント  (7子コメント)

[–]s0undwave 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good ol' Mike O'Tren

[–]Lord_of_the_Dance 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I know they are jesting at us swole but I kinda want to hang out with these guys and talk about protein.

[–]weuw1 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

this is fuckin great thanks for sharing!

[–]D-light 28ポイント29ポイント  (21子コメント)

Would be weird if true, since you can easily get the proper amount of protein on a plant-based diet if you take a few moments to do some research and make a solid meal plan.

[–]beleriand 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

any bro is going to work their chest to death. if anything, their shoulders will lag.

[–]check_my_mids 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

guess he skips leg day

[–]Spaghetti-hoes 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

His excuse is that he got hit by a mail car. But, who knows.

[–]HaberdasherA 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

His traps are non-existent too and it really makes him look weird.

[–]bhogi123 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

lmao that's so true

[–]JupitersClock 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahaha oh my god I just noticed how ridiculous he looks with big arms and small shoulders.

[–]R-U-0K 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's shit all over the fitness community, talked shit about friends and families of prominent fitness figures. He's not a curlbro, he's a curl douche, no one likes him.

[–]meateatercat 195ポイント196ポイント  (12子コメント)

That was much more entertaining than I expected.

[–]spyder256 38ポイント39ポイント  (5子コメント)

I've nearly died of laughter multiple times watching this guys videos.

[–]Ma3rabi 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

I find his tinder video's one of the best. Always cracks me up.

[–]The_sad_zebra 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

The interview one is my favorite.

[–]Helter-Skeletor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"...because money you idiot!"

[–]Gengar11Piccadilly Whore! 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

/r/SubredditDrama would love this video.

I hope we get to see the other 2 videos he had!

[–]Jorge_loves_it 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

This popcorn is amazingly specific.

Like how did these two youtubers start getting at each other?

[–]spyder256 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seeing how big of a pile of fucking shit this vegan guy is I'm sure we will.

[–]Exotli8 189ポイント190ポイント  (31子コメント)

This guy's voice is hilarious. I could listen to him rant about anything.

[–]TheAverageBro 74ポイント75ポイント  (12子コメント)

I just wanna hear him say "right".

[–]Mister_Veritasnon-presser 67ポイント68ポイント  (3子コメント)

roaight

[–]ape_rape 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

How do you have "non-presser" flair outside of /r/thebutton?

[–]invisiblecamel 51ポイント52ポイント  (9子コメント)

I really hope the other videos are released.

[–]Markle37 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm with you. I had no clue who the guy was before this video, but now I just want to see him get destroyed.

[–]Crath 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah, but did he really say that he got them by hacking his computer? Seems low for GradeAunderA (@ 9:15), but maybe I'm just missing a joke.

[–]invisiblecamel 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

I doubt it, but I'm just as clueless as to what he really meant. Perhaps it he was talking about an early video that Vegan Gains posted and then was deleted off Youtube.

[–]SelectaRx 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pretty sure it was a joke. Its probably a video that's no longer available he acquired through mostly legal and mundane means (like he downloaded it from youtube or something before it got deleted), and he was being hyperbolic about how he acquired it.

[–]fugbrah 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obviously not. I assume it's going to be the same thing he did where he edits his videos together.

[–]OncewasaBlastocoel 86ポイント87ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly wouldn't have ever seen this guy unless you posted this.

[–]iamanashhole 56ポイント57ポイント  (7子コメント)

It's all kicking off! Vegan Gains deleted a comment about him https://twitter.com/GradeAUnderA/status/615308034882076673

[–]squimpitybink 43ポイント44ポイント  (3子コメント)

So, I clicked on that link and it turns out I still have no idea how twitter works.

[–]ColrathD 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've been trying to figure it out for years without actually trying at all.

Still don't understand it.

[–]TweetsInCommentsBot 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

@GradeAUnderA

2015-06-28 23:57 UTC

VEGANNN!!! I replied to Youtube user BCYK's reply. Can anyone find this comment on his latest video's comments?

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[–]DonomerDoric 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shoot, so he didn't see the ultimatum? Hope someone tells him about it.

[–]ragem411 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or he's pretending to not know.

[–]thefuckareyouup2 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

the volume difference throughout the video was absolutely ridiculous.

[–]unfortunately2 53ポイント54ポイント  (0子コメント)

this is a really solid video with great research and delivered in a comedic way. 10/10 for me considering I am not interested in the topic or the person in question at all

[–]gabbamac21 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

literally who?

[–]DeathByDik 125ポイント126ポイント  (9子コメント)

He's a man child and he clearly shouldn't be giving any diet or fitness advice when he looks that shit after 7 years of training.

[–]antholagnia 59ポイント60ポイント  (6子コメント)

God, I hope you never see what I look like.

[–]nomercyrule 112ポイント113ポイント  (4子コメント)

just don't give diet or fitness advice and you can look as shit as you want mate

[–]EXCOM 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

The end got serious.... Im am now 100% invested in what happens next.

[–]flavorwave 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I love YouTube beef

[–]LetsShareAPaopuFruit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You'll love TotalBiscuit then.(assuming you don't already.)

[–]mahgainz 102ポイント103ポイント  (0子コメント)

vegan gains is a fucking idiot.

[–]D7inlofi 95ポイント96ポイント  (23子コメント)

What the hell is wrong with people in Toronto.

[–]n0remack 94ポイント95ポイント  (0子コメント)

The question that remains unanswered to the remaining 33 million Canadians

[–]downvote_me_moreYOLO[S] 34ポイント35ポイント  (10子コメント)

Ask /r/toronto and prepare to meet the downvote brigade

[–]Osego8 51ポイント52ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]downvote_me_moreYOLO[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't forget to leave a comment. Here's an upvote, good luck.

[–]MuffinMakingJew 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I applaud your initiative.

[–]No-Shit-Sherlock 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

Am Torontonian... still upvoted OP. Why, you ask? Well just look at the Leafs. They still sell out the stadium 99% of the time despite having one of the highest ticket prices in the league and after years and years and years of bitterly disappointing performances. So it's kind of hard to get offended when someone else asks the same question about us that we are constantly having to ask ourselves.

edit: And of course there was the whole Rob Ford thing... he probably would have won the election if he hadn't been forced to drop out due to cancer. So seriously... what the hell is wrong with us?

[–]Dakadaka 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Alot of their fans are from areas around Toronto and Hamilton with most people in downtown Toronto not being the biggest fans.

[–]downvote_me_moreYOLO[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do you remember the Leafs v.s Boston Bruins game. 4 - 1 so we thought to ourselves, "For once, we won't be dissappointed." People got up, made themselves a sandwich, used the restroom, went back to watch the game and it was 4 - 3. "Okay, not sure how that happened but we uhh still have a chance, right guys?" Then we lost.

I don't even watch sports, and I remember that.

:(

[–]No-Shit-Sherlock 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do I remember the Leafs losing to insert team here despite being miles ahead after the first two periods? Of course I do... because it happens at least a dozen times every goddamn season. :/

[–]NSPQR 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a Torontonian I feel qualified to answer - and the simple fact is we don't know and I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

[–]ModernPoultry9" x 7" 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think theres a correlation with the success of our sports teams and the weather that has driven us bonkers

[–]random19 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

didnt even know he lived in toronto.

[–]JimmysRevenge 154ポイント155ポイント  (168子コメント)

If he would admit it's because he cares about animals I could totally back him in his decision. But people who claim to do it because "it's healthier" are just trying to not only justify it to themselves but feel the need to see EVERY OTHER DIET as wrong for their bodies.

[–]eojen 85ポイント86ポイント  (146子コメント)

Yup. I'm vegan for animals and the environment. It's not healthier, but you have to pay a lot more attention to what you eat which lead to me having a healthier diet all around. So me becoming vegan helped my health, but not because I wasn't eating meat.

[–]ChristyBrownsGhost 13ポイント14ポイント  (67子コメント)

Just curious but why go full vegan? I think I'd miss dairy too much.

[–]eojen 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I really don't. Thought I'd miss cheese but not at all. And even if I did I didn't go vegan for me. I miss a good medium rare steak, but I'm not gonna order one because I like how it tastes.

[–]RAGING_VEGETARIAN 30ポイント31ポイント  (49子コメント)

So far I've been unable to make the switch myself. But basically dairy cows aren't treated any better than meat cows. Even in humane farms, they are slaughtered much before their natural life span because they start producing less milk.

In addition, to stimulate lactation, dairy cows are impregnated and have calves, but the calves are taken from them. There's a few youtube videos of mama cows seeming awfully distressed immediately after the loss of their new calf and this is sometimes taken as additional evidence that dairy production is unethical.

Additionally, from an environmental standpoint, dairy production takes quite a lot of water and land, and nonorganic cows are given antibiotics that drive antibiotic resistance in bacteria.

[–]ChristyBrownsGhost 8ポイント9ポイント  (43子コメント)

I live in Ireland though. I haven't ever seen our cattle treated poorly. Though maybe they are. There's cows near me now, looking healthy and happily chewing cud. We happen to have rather a lot of land and rain.

Tbh, now I have to look into it, because I don't know what standards they are held to here. The quality is certainly excellent. Our butter exports well for example.

[–]Kyoraki 22ポイント23ポイント  (29子コメント)

Yeah, this is a problem I have with Veganism. Everything is very much centred on the US, and American farming standards. And since it's the US, they have no fucking standards. Anything goes. You know something's up when egg shells are all perfectly white, and everyone acts like it's normal.

Anyway, point is I know my local farms. They treat their animals better than most people treat their own family. And being the posh southern cunts we are, we get all our stuff from farm shops and local markets. Why should I go vegan because of how people on the other side of the planet treat their animals?

[–]TheOriginOfSpecious 15ポイント16ポイント  (18子コメント)

There are a few reasons I can think of, though they might not speak to you:

  • The environmental argument holds, regardless of how the animals are treated. This connects both to greenhouse emissions, and use of water. In fact, generally speaking, animals that are treated more ethically also tend to use up more water.

  • Killing sentient beings for trivial reasons is bad, regardless of how good of a life the being is given. This requires some fleshing out, but I think the general point has some sway. If I look at two people, ceteris paribus, and one is okay with killing a sentient creature to acquire a trivial pleasure, while the other is not, I tend to think that the former person isn't quite as morally good as the latter. I think the response to this argument goes something like this: but if we weren't going to kill and eat these beings, they wouldn't exist, and would therefore be worse off, since they wouldn't get to experience any of their own pleasures during their, albeit abbreviated, life. I think there is some plausibility to this response, though I'm not sure that I'm convinced by it (going into it would balloon an already too long response), but what's important to keep in mind here is that it is impossible for humans to eat as much meat as they currently do, and have the animals they eat live good lives without major pain and suffering. We eat as many animals a year (or with more conservative estimates every two years) as humans that have ever existed throughout earth's history (over 100 billion).

  • Lastly, people often think that they are well acquainted with the farming practices of smaller local farms, when the reality is much harsher than their perception. I'm not saying your case is necessarily like this (but confirmation bias is a powerful thing for anyone, me and you both included). It's nice to think about farmer John gently tending his animals in a bucolic pasture, but this just doesn't match reality most of the time. Many "small" farms still maintain some rather cruel practices.

[–]amphetaminesfailure 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

it is impossible for humans to eat as much meat as they currently do, and have the animals they eat live good lives without major pain and suffering.

Lastly, people often think that they are well acquainted with the farming practices of smaller local farms, when the reality is much harsher than their perception.

I believe you're wrong on just about everything you said, but I'm going to focus on these two points.

90% of my meat is gained from two ways. Either I kill it myself, or I get it from a local farm in which I'm a member of their CSA.

So, let's start with hunting first. I can only assume the animals I've hunted have lived a "good" life (same goes for the fish I catch.)

"Good" is a pretty relative term in nature, considering how absolutely brutal it can be, so I can only assume by "good" you mean natural.

I know what I'm doing when I'm hunting or fishing, and trust me, there's a lot less suffering than if the animal were to be killed by any other predator.

You might argue that perhaps the animal wouldn't die from a predator and instead from old age. Do you think that's any better? Have you ever owned pets? If you've ever owned more than one or two then you may have noticed that natural deaths can often be far from pleasant. I've rushed cats and dogs to the emergency vet to be put down, and the suffering they experience in what would otherwise be their "natural death" is horrifying. Play with your cat, dog, etc. at 9pm at night while they seem perfectly fine, only to be awakened at 3am to them screaming in pain as they choke on their own vomit and then talk to me about pain and suffering.

As for smaller local farms, learn about them. The farm at which I have a CSA membership allows me to show up and walk around any time I want. I can see the conditions of the animals, I can watch them be slaughtered if I want. I know exactly what is going on.

There are a lot of people out there who don't pay attention to where their meat comes from.

Or where their dairy comes from.

There are a lot of hunters and fisherman out there who don't care are about how humanely they make a kill.

That doesn't mean veganism is the only answer though.

[–]BuzzAir44 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're fortunate to have access to such a great set up.

[–]TheOriginOfSpecious 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well first off by "good" I do not mean "natural", I'm not really sure why you'd assume that. Value theory is complicated business, and certainly can't be reduced in that way. I'm well aware that natural lives can be, to steal from Hobbes, nasty brutish and short. Certainly just because an animal lived its life in nature does not mean that its life was good. However, on balance a natural life will almost always be better than a life in which an animal is reared for consumption. That does not in any way mean that good = natural.

So getting your meat from hunting and small farms is most definitely better than from elsewhere (though poor hunters can lead to some slow painful deaths), but I don't see any reason to kill animals for gustatory pleasure, it's just a hard position for me to see as justifiable. Also keep in mind that hunting comprises a very small percentage of meat consumed (like less than 1%), and small farms also produce a very small percentage of animal products consumed. We are talking 95%+ coming from factory farms. So I'm glad that you think about where your food comes from, but your situation isn't representative of most people's. And like I mentioned, it just isn't possible for the amount of animal products we consume to be produced on small more ethical farms and through hunting. You may be able to get the majority of your meat from such sources, but 100 billion animals annually cannot be consumed using these practices. It's not economically or practically feasible, not even close.

And I have seen the practices of smaller farms that brand themselves as an ethical alternatives, and they ain't perfect, and I would not be willing to have animals treated in that way on my behalf (despite it being better than factory farm conditions). You might be fortunate enough to have a very small farm to get your meat from, but let's be honest, most poorer people living in urban areas aren't going to, or cannot do that. Either way, you seem to care and think about where your food comes from, and that's really what's important. If you're satisfied with the treatment of the animals you eat, and are okay with them being killed for food, there isn't much I can say to change your mind there, and you're miles ahead of most people, so perhaps there is no reason to have your mind changed. :)

[–]coolblasterz 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

I think the egg shells are perfectly white because of some kind of washing process. But, yeah, factory farmed eggs are terrible for the hens :( Can't wait to get my own chickens or buy from a local farm.

[–]bsa86 3ポイント4ポイント  (10子コメント)

The problem is that those are the cows you see and you probably only see a few dozen - however around 78% of cows are factory farmed.

One thing that /u/RAGING_VEGETARIAN neglected to mention is that because male calves are of no value to the dairy industry, they will be sold to the beef or veal industries (around 1/8 calves is sent to the veal industry, where after living an extremely cramped life they will be killed at a very young age.

This infographic is very informative and sourced well.

[–]wd10000 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

however around 78% of cows are factory farmed.

Your source seems to indicate that's a statistic specific to the united states. While the person you're replying to already gave you their location.

Full quote for context:

When you take into account the fact that factory farms raise 99.9 percent of chickens for meat, 97 percent of laying hens, 99 percent of turkeys, 95 percent of pigs, and 78 percent of cattle currently sold in the United States, it's shocking how much time we waste debating each other, rather than trying to actually change the system.

Ireland being a member of the EU has much stricter agricultural laws than that of the united states. Far from perfect, lets not kid ourselves.

You can find statistics for virtually anything farming related (atleast in terms of meat/dairy) online. E.g:

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/animalhealthwelfare/animalidentificationandmovement/AimBovineStats090512.pdf

There's an unbelievable amount of information for almost every year & also a very easy to find detailed website saying what's legal or illegal in regards to animal welfare. The website I found cited EU or Irish court decisions in each case name and year. It all seems rather transparent.

Preferably we wouldn't be harming any living beings for our dietary needs. However as the world stands not all countries are equally good (or bad) at these types of processes as others. It's important not to conflate them into a single statistic unless you have the data available for every country to make an accurate statement about that.

[–]I_cantdoit 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Only see a few dozen? Clearly you've no idea of the agriculture industry in Ireland it's differences to the U.S.

[–]Orc_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, from wiki:

The practice is widespread in developed nations. According to the Worldwatch Institute, as of 2006, 74 percent of the world's poultry, 43 percent of beef, 50 percent of pork, and 68 percent of eggs were produced this way.[13][14]

[–]Sharkictus 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Out of curiosity, do you dislike honey?

I find most people who go full vegan for ethical reasons tend to also dislike honey's taste..

[–]HenryAudubon 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

If you're concerned about the ethics of how we treat animals, it's pretty natural to avoid milk and eggs because those industries tend to cause quite a bit of suffering, not only to the producer-animals, but also to their offspring, especially baby males.

Milk cows are kept pregnant nearly all the time so that they keep producing milk. When they birth a male, it tends to be removed from it's mother and killed for a veal a few months later. Similarly, male chicks from egg laying chickens are often just thrown into grinders because they are useless for laying eggs and aren't suitable for meat.

[–]ChristyBrownsGhost 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

If everyone went vegan what would fill the giant meaty gap in the economy of the western world? It would have to happen gradually right?

[–]HenryAudubon 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

The prospect of everyone going vegan around the same time isn't something I've thought about very much. What you say sounds about right: it would have to be gradual, otherwise large segments of the economy would be destabilized. I'll just add that that's not a good excuse for an individual to wait on adopting an entirely plant-based diet. Good question!

[–]ChristyBrownsGhost 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

It took me long enough to go from almost all meat to almost no meat. The dairy stays. For now.

[–]FDeschanel 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because meat comprises only a portion of the cruelty that non-human animals endure. When I realized the amount of cruelty that dairy, eggs, leather, wool, down and fur, causes, I realized that just abstaining from meat was a step in the right direction but not nearly enough. Here's a video on the differences between vegetarians and vegans that explains it better than I can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYXYfrDbLbk

Personally, I didn't miss dairy much. I found plenty of plant-based milks, yogurts and cheeses, from soy beans, almonds, cashews, coconuts, and hemp. The great thing about these products is that you get the nutritional benefits without the harmful elements from animal milks.

[–]Orc_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Check out Ahimsa milk, there's many diary producers getting on the vegetarian train.

[–]Spaghetti-hoes 4ポイント5ポイント  (21子コメント)

And see, another problem with Vegan Gains is that he likes to use a lot of data. But the data that he shows about the rates of disease and what not for all the individual diet groups is incredibly skewed. Yeah, of course the vegan diet group is going to be healthier than the entire meat eating group. That includes every fat ass that pays zero attention to their diet and doesn't exercise.

[–]on_my_lunch_break 4ポイント5ポイント  (18子コメント)

There are vegan fatasses too, you know. They also pay zero attention to their diets and don't exercise.

[–]Fierydeath 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

As much as I agree with the fact that your dietary choices have little correlation with your other lifestyle, you have to pay attention to your diet in order to be vegan.

[–]on_my_lunch_break 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Paying attention to the ingredients is not the same thing as paying attention to your nutrition.

[–]Fierydeath 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

True, but your statement that some vegans pay zero attention to their diets is technically incorrect. In order to properly follow their dietary restrictions they have to know what they're eating (which is their diet). Whether or not they understand the nutritional information is a different story.

[–]BatmanBrah 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

But there are far less of them compared to non vegans, which skews the study to present misleading statistics based on correlation over causation.

[–]YouAreDreaming 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

thats a respectful opinion, i can see where youre coming from

[–]coolblasterz 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's totally cool if you're vegan and lifting and making some gains, but this guy is just a douche. His physique is garbage, and nearly all of his most popular videos are just him hating on various fitness celebs. Even if he had a physique he wouldn't be contributing anything worthwhile.

[–]downvote_me_moreYOLO[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I wouldn't call his physique garbage by any means, just maybe not as big as other YT-fitness people. He does come off as a douche though, I agree.

[–]coolblasterz 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm no expert, but it does seem like his proportions are off between his arms and his smaller chest/shoulders.

It's classic player hater to rip on other people while your own game is weak, which is really off-putting to watch on video. Size isn't everything, but from a pic I saw on his Facebook page he just has some funky proportions to my untrained eye.

I'm a vegetarian who lifts, and it's a shame this guy has the attention he does. He's so negative about everything when he could be so positive. And he's not even entertaining, whereas someone like Chris Jones is funny as hell to watch. And CJ knows his stuff and has results to match. This guy doesn't look like he's been lifting for 7 years. I've been going for one and a half, and even though I'm only vegetarian I feel like his 7 years is BS.

[–]Uncontrol 19ポイント20ポイント  (6子コメント)

Dude's biceps are severely lopsided.

[–]downvote_me_moreYOLO[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

That's pretty normal actually. I think it's a genetic thing, but someone correct me if they know otherwise because I'm just assuming.

[–]Uncontrol 33ポイント34ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's normal to have different sized biceps, yeah. Even Arnold did.

But this dude is rocking a 2:1 ratio.

[–]tankosaurus 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I dont think it's genetic but 25 years of your right hand being dominate and used entirely for cooking/eating/brushing teeth etc will make it slighky bigger.

I remember watching a video once before and the guy said unless your ambidextrous your dominant side will grow slighly more since it's has a better mind/muscle connection.

[–]downvote_me_moreYOLO[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I should've clarified. I didn't mean one arm being bigger and stronger as genetic. I meant the size of the bicep and more specifically, the shape it makes when flexed. E.g if you look at peoples abs, everyone has a different type of ab pattern, some have 8 packs, some have that strange 2:3 pack on the left and the right side. I agree though with what you said. That's true in my case as well.

[–]slayez06 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is my least favorite of grade A's videos but clearly that nob pissed him off....So fuck that guy and cheers GradeA!

[–]idontknow394 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Who in the hell would turn to this child for advice on anything?

[–]lanternsinthesky 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know, I don't judge people on their diet, what i judge people on is how they treat other human beings. And Vegan Gains is a fucking disgusting bully, i am so sick of assholes like him preach about ethics and morals, yet they cannot even treat people with basic human kindness.

Some of the clips from that video is from him verbally and very aggressively harassing an overweight woman, making fun of her boyfriends suicid and saying she deserves to die. How the fuck is that acceptable? Is it okay to say those things because you got big muscles suddenly? Or because the person you're talking about is fat?

I hate anyone who feels the need to mock and hate on others just to prove to everyone how strong and tough they are. It is so pathetic when adults acts like they are 14, and even worse when people enables them to continue. I don't even understand how any sane person can develop an ego that big. I really hate bullies.

[–]kabooooooooom 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm so happy this was made. I watched a few vegan gains videos a month ago and instantly got this overwhelming feeling that he is just a self righteous asshole. Can't wait to see his response now! Got my popcorn ready :)

[–]placewhereusernameis 22ポイント23ポイント  (10子コメント)

Me and other carnivores (omnivores also since that's what I technically am) have mutual respect. I don't eat them they don't eat me. Simple rules to live by.

[–]antholagnia 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

I have no issue eating human meat. If it was legal to buy it, and it was supplied at the grocery store, then I'd absolutely try it.

[–]koy5 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

They would probably sell you some cheap meat that you have never tasted before and pass it off as human. Like racoon meat or something. You would probably get some kind of parasite too.

[–]antholagnia 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not scared of parasites. You want to know why I'm not scared of parasites?! I'm bigger than them.

[–]HappyMolecule 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is not all kale! haha best pun ever, made my day

[–]HectorCruzSuarez 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know nor do I care whom this vegan guy is. But this video is very well made.

[–]Thatkidyouknow420 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've never even heard of this guy before

[–]nobodieee 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

you would think that you would have to have made some gains to put it as your name, but no.

[–]DasWeasel 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

pinecones

[–]crecentfresh 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who is this guy? Hold up, I already don't care.

[–]heyimrick 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

That black dude's voice is fucking annoying.

[–]JacobThePianist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like he needs to blow his nose but just won't.

[–]lsaz 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

All i need to see is his body cause he's been lifting for 5 years and looks terrible.

[–]downvote_me_moreYOLO[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Vegan Gains actually doesn't have a bad physique if I recall correctly. A bit on the lean side, but he has a nice physique in my opinion.

[–]helplesslurker 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

he has good arms, but for 5 years of lifting (and compared to his arms) his chest, shoulders, and legs are severely lacking

[–]dingo7055 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

TIL I learned that this is all a thing to some people.

Those days when the internet proves it will never stop being weird.

[–]Zi1djian 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

My friend, if you think this is weird you haven't seen 1/10000000th of the weird shit on the internet.

[–]Am3n 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The fuck did I just watch

[–]ragmondead 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who's Vegan gains... am I supposed to know who he is?

[–]Avizand 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The narrator sounds like the main character of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas had a stroke...

[–]InappropriateAaron 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO. FUCK THIS GUY.

[–]Ninjasteevo 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Such glaring hypocrisy from Vegan Gains and I would venture to say most Vegans on Youtube. Lets spread our message about the ethical treatment of animals but who gives a fuck that most of the electronics we are using are probably made by some sweat shop in China where the outsourced "Apple" company had to put netting at the bottom of the workplace because too many people were killing themselves because of how horrible their lives were. Fuck them right?

[–]BuzzAir44 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is like telling a gay rights activist not to spread their message because of global warming, or a woman's refuge center not to bother because of the homeless situation in their city.

[–]Surelyyoucantbcereal 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who the fuck is Vegan Gains. I DONT CARE

[–]IAmBecomeGay 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I like the video, only thing I don't get is why he called Vince Delmonte a "skinny shit" when he is clearly a dude who works out and has a large frame.

[–]downvote_me_moreYOLO[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

He means in reference to other pro body builders who admit to and regularly use steroids and / or hormones to enhance their physique. Vince Delmonte is sort of like the "every guy" physique, as he is sorta inspirational to the everyday person, because his physique is quite attainable with years of hard work. In comparison to the Olympia bodybuilders though, it won't add up. Also, he was exaggerating for comedic effect when calling him a skinny shit.

[–]themantherein 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks again devvo.

[–]miketheblade 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh it has nothing to do with gains being made on the vegan diet.

[–]Doyoufeelmorehuman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Am I the only one that thought vegan gains was a workout setup?

[–]CivilCJ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously, gradeAunderA is awesome!

[–]tHeSiD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

GradeAunderA, my man! refreshing to watch a new video of his on a monday morning!

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[–]Kingvoe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He seems like an ass who has never experienced loss. Yea he spews hateful shit, yea it gets him some laughs, but he is not putting himself in a positive light.

[–]Borat151 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He makes me cringe when he swears.

[–]a5vastra 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I.. thought the title was:
"PROOF that Veigar Gains is a Lie"

Until I clicked the video and reread the title. Too much league of legends..?
I really thought we were going to have a bug discussion about baleful strike.

[–]hakudoshi42022 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This guy is hilarious