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Thug Beats Mother Holding Baby Just For ‘Being White’ (liveleak.com)

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[–]ShillinAintEasy 2ポイント3ポイント  (44子コメント)

What in the world makes anyone here think this was a result of the woman (who isn't actually white) just being white rather than a personal issue between the two women?

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (33子コメント)

How do you know it wasnt ?

[–]ShillinAintEasy 5ポイント6ポイント  (31子コメント)

I don't know one way or another, but I'm also not making the ridiculous and baseless assumption like you are with this title. Also, the police report says it wasn't.... Oh and there is the tiny fact that the women who was assaulted isn't even white.

Edit: Oh, also the fact that the second black girl, the one who doesn't fight, keeps telling second 'white' girl that "it's between them" pointing to the two who eventually fight, which would indicate they have some type of personal issue with each other. But, hey, don't let these inconvenient facts get in the way of your absolutely baseless assumptions. Just keep doing you.

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (29子コメント)

Oh and there is the tiny fact that the women who was assaulted isn't even white.

SO, this somehow justifies her being beaten ?

The officer did say she was of mixed race however, I suppose that somehow makes it ok ?

[–]OtterSigma 6ポイント7ポイント  (28子コメント)

It isn't justification. It's evidence of an inaccurate and likely deliberately inflammatory title.

[–]DiaperPhresh 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

In the age of popular opinion=fact based on less than a minute of video, I think its safe to lean in the direction that this might be racially motivated.

[–]OtterSigma 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

It could be, certainly. However, to claim that the attack happened because she is white is false, unless we can further prove that the assailant mistook her race for being something other than mixed. Now, even if the assailant knew she is mixed, it could still be racially motivated on the basis of her having one white parent, but without context and just this snippet of video, it's very hard to say what was actually going on here.

[–]DiaperPhresh -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

You put it in better words than I ever could. But it doesn't really matter what the facts are in some of these cases. Best example is George Zimmerman. Regardless of the fact there was no evidence of racial motivation the majority still equate him as a white, black child slaying klan member and rally to see him dead. Even without video. Please don't take this as an attempt to open that can of shit again, the case is over.

[–]OtterSigma -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't guilty of jumping to conclusions from time to time. I'll admit I initially thought the Zimmerman case was racially motivated. But time and better sources moderate opinions. Every now and then, it's good to have someone just calmly tell you to step back and examine the facts.

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What was inaccurate about it ?

The victim was of mixed race, and obviously much lighter in skin tone than the perp.

Are you telling us its impossible for someone of mixed race to consider them selves as white instead of black ?

[–]OtterSigma 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

A mixed-race person can consider themselves basically white if they wish. However, you are declaring that she is white of your own volition, irrespective of her own opinions on the matter. Hence, you are altering a very key point of the story, since the focus is not on the attack, but rather on the races of the involved parties.

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (21子コメント)

It's evidence of an inaccurate and likely deliberately inflammatory title.

So its ok to beat up a partially black girl holding a child, but not a white one ?

[–]OtterSigma 7ポイント8ポイント  (20子コメント)

No. It's not ok to beat anyone. Your title is simply inaccurate. If you are going to claim a motive for the assailant, then we should try and strive for accuracy.

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (19子コメント)

Are you claiming you know all the facts pertaining to the issue at hand ?

[–]OtterSigma 5ポイント6ポイント  (18子コメント)

No, but as far as I can tell, the race of the victim is not what you claim it to be.

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (17子コメント)

No, but as far as I can tell, the race of the victim is not what you claim it to be.

The second article claims she is of mixed race, so what race would that make her ?

I have two friends of mixed race and both of them consider themselves as white, so why couldnt this young girl do the same.

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know one way or another, but I'm also not making the ridiculous and baseless assumption like you are with this title.

Maybe you can explain to me why a person of mixed race is somehow black, but not white ?

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (9子コメント)

(who isn't actually white)

So, are you claiming the thug is somehow 'justified' in sucker punching then beating up the young girl holding a child because she is not white ?

You dont happen to belong to an organization known as the kkk do you ?

[–]ShillinAintEasy 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

Hahahaha oh my lord, when did I say it was justified? Please, please point out where I even suggested that...

Literally my entire point is that the non-white girl clearly was not assaulted for being white, as your race-baiting title assumes for absolutely no reason. Like, if she's not white, your title is completely and totally false.

Also, why are you replying to the same comment twice? I already replied to your original comment - do you understand how these threads work?

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Literally my entire point is that the non-white girl clearly was not assaulted for being white, as your race-baiting title assumes for absolutely no reason. Like, if she's not white, your title is completely and totally false.

However you seem to be implying that her beating is somehow justified because she is not white as you claim.

[–]ShillinAintEasy 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

So you can't actually point out where I've implied that though? That's cool... also since you for some reason started two threads with me and then keep downvoting me so I have to wait to reply, I'm just gonna lump my reply from the other comment where you accuse me of the exact same thing right here:

Hahah, oh man, what movement of the field goals... Again, still have nowhere even insinuated this assault was ok. My point remains the same though - this had nothing to do with race, the woman wasn't even white. You are just race baiting with your shitty title. Now, you are even admitting she isn't white and are trying save yourself by accusing people who point out that it had nothing to do with race of condoning assault.

Assault is bad, this assault has nothing to do with race though, and so your entire post is wrong and this whole thread is just stirring up anger over literally nothing.

Edit: Dude, keep it in one thread, why do you keep replying to the same comments twice??

I don't know one way or another, but I'm also not making the ridiculous and baseless assumption like you are with this title.

Maybe you can explain to me why a person of mixed race is somehow black, but not white ?

Again, never said she was black, I have no clue where you are coming up with this shit.

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (5子コメント)

the woman wasn't even white.

How do you know what she considered herself ?

The police officer involved stated she was of mixed race.

I know two people personally of mixed race and they both consider themselves as white despite their black parentage.

[–]ShillinAintEasy 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

How do you know what she considered herself or what this assault was over? I'm not the one making the race-baiting, baseless post.

Also, the fact that the police described her as 'bi-racial' would logically lead one to believe that is how she described, or identified, herself to them...

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

So now we are trusting the police to decide race issues ?

[–]ShillinAintEasy 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hahahaha wow man, you are really arguing with a strawman - again please copy paste the portion where I even implied that... You asked how I know what she self-identifies as, I pointed out why I made my assumption and you again moved the goal posts to something completely unrelated.

Please though, seriously, show me where I said we should trust the police to decide race issues. I will be anxiously waiting for that.

I feel like a douchebag pointing out all these logical fallacies but my god.

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

You asked how I know what she self-identifies as, I pointed out why I made my assumption

And I pointed out why I assumed otherwise as well.