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ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

So, um, hello, as I said.

I suppose this should be a response. All I'm going to say is a few things: I have cleared and approved 1 month's worth of reports on this subreddit and cleared the modqueue. I intend to keep them clean and follow ZeroShift's policies.

http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/qq1j2/meta_regarding_bep_as_mod_lol_indeed/

Regarding the above, here is some clarification:

  1. In some subreddits I mod, we have unofficial rules that you have to be able to have free space on your plate, if I may use the expression, to moderate. This loosely translates to only modding one to a couple of defaults.
  2. If you are going to take out-of-context quotes from darkmodem, someone who contributes to BeatingCripples, beatingtrannies, beatingwomen whilst trawling through my history for every wrong thing you think I've done, I'm sorry, I suppose.
  3. I am not intentionally creating any drama, I'm only getting the impression that people who have a problem with me are trying to stir it up.
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[–]underdabridge 76ポイント77ポイント * (13子コメント)

ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

Hello.

I don't have a specific problem with you. I have a problem with consolidation of power in the hands of a small number of like minded people who hang out together on IRC all the time.

It is unclear to me why moderation powers cannot be more widely distributed among reddit's active members.

Like that or don't like it but don't assume its a personal vendetta against you because of what you post or something.

Edit: Could you please stop downvoting Saltychristian into invisibility? It hides the whole discussion for default setting users.

[–]SaltyChristian -2ポイント-1ポイント * (11子コメント)

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The IRC isn't some big meeting of power hungry dictators planning to kill everyone and everything on reddit. We're mods talking about mod stuff that you probably don't give a shit about. When we aren't doing that, we're goofing around and joking. We aren't planning how to take over the world or something like that. It's really not that big of a deal. And all you're doing is aiming your distaste to a large group of people, most of whom you don't know, instead of bep himself.

And the power is distributed among reddit's active members. It's not like every single subreddit consists of bep, andrewsmith1986, and other default moderators and nobody else. When a mod takes a new job at a subreddit, they don't kick out another in the process.

I KNOW I'M A DICK, SORRY. PLEASE READ MY OTHER COMMENT BELOW

[–]underdabridge 22ポイント23ポイント  (9子コメント)

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You're making some false assumptions about me and what I know.

I like most of the mods and I know what goes on in modtalk. I don't think they are bad people. ( Well... as a class. Some mods are very clearly problematic, but that's case by case.)

I think the reddit system is broken and the way in which it is broken is being reinforced by a clique that is chummy with hueypriest who very strongly like the ideas that mods are gods in their subreddit and that the way to fix an aberrant mod is to start a new subreddit. I think that's an easy answer for the admins and an opportune one for a gang of mods who keep promoting each other. But bad for my user experience.

I also think many redditors are having a pretty basic problem with the question of legitimacy: aka why them? How did these people end up with all the power?

So you have a basic political problem. People who feel ruled by rulers without any legitimate rationale.

The reddit solution to mod abuse (start your own subreddit) is stupid and unworkable as I said here earlier.

The mod IRC channel is what it is. A place where mods can reinforce each others perceptions that they are the good guys and that they have to deal with uninformed idiots. This reinforces the problem.

I honestly don't think the admins have been very deft. Reddit needs a community manager that all moderators answer to whether they started their subreddit or not. Reddit needs a moderator code of conduct. They need criteria And it needs to be able to replace mods who lose the trust of their userbase. I know that these issues are fraught with challenges because of the nature of subreddits. But what I am saying and MANY other users are saying, is that we have not satisfactorily solved this problem yet and we are sick of Reddit acting like it is solved.

Until it is solved, mods can expect to deal with vocal complaints about it not being solved. Obviously.

[–]SaltyChristian 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

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You actually make a lot of good points here, and I get what you meant. Thanks :)

A place where mods can reinforce each others perceptions that they are the good guys and that they have to deal with uninformed idiots.

From my experience, that never ever happens. Maybe with trolls and the like, we tag them as "uninformed idiots" but we do listen to what people have to say. And we don't reassure each other that we are the good people. A lot of mods are too powerful for their own good, and people will point that out and discuss it.

I know that there is a problem with power mods, but I'm not a power mod and most on the IRC aren't. My biggest question is why is there a problem with us? It's basically saying that there's a problem with moderators in general if moderating a 5,000+ reader subreddit is a problem.

And lastly, I would like to say that I was angry and took you out of context in my first comment, and looking back at it I look like an idiot. I need to work on stopping myself from commenting until I'm calmed down lol

[–]underdabridge 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

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No worries. I've taken you as discussing in pretty good faith and I appreciate it.

that never ever happens.

I can tell you that this is not correct (at least in my informed but subjective opinion). Consider looking at the discussions again with a fresh eye.

we do listen to what people have to say.

To large extent, of course. Mods want to be liked and want to do a good job. Mods try very hard. But they also have strong opinions that are contrary to the ones I've expressed with respect to the need for revamped accountability and they don't want to hear anything more about it.

A mods are gods system appeals to mods but it doesn't appeal to users who are also conditioned to believe they have power through an upvote/downvote system. To be sure, Mods are gods on other websites but on those other websites, they answer to the administrators. The administrators don't generally say "mod free for all! go go go!"

People may point out that some mods are "too powerful" but there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Incidentally, I don't have a problem with most moderators or all the moderators with +5000 subreddits. So I really can't answer that point. I think it's sort of a strawman. It's not the issue.

Past that I just reiterate what I said already. Thanks for reading.

(BTW how do you know there isn't a "power mod" irc or aol chat that you're not invited to? ;) )

[–]SaltyChristian 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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(BTW how do you know there isn't a "power mod" irc or aol chat that you're not invited to? ;) )

I had assumed we were talking about modtalk. Also, most of the higher up mods are pretty open there. Can't deny the possibility of one existing though.

[–]NotSoToughCookie -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

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The reddit solution to mod abuse (start your own subreddit) is stupid and unworkable

No, it's not. /r/trees spun off from /r/marijuana because of a racist, abusive mod and now has nearly 5x the subscribers.

Simply because doing it is "hard", doesn't make it unworkable. It has worked, and worked successfully multiple times.

[–]underdabridge 18ポイント19ポイント * (4子コメント)

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Yes, yes. Trees. Trees trees trees. Always with trees.

  • IAMA nearly disappeared when its founder had a fit of pique. It only survived because people doxxed and harassed him in real life.

  • Karmanaut is still top mod of IAMA despite the displeasure of the rest of the moderating team.

  • Mercurialmadnessman was kicked from the IAMA team and started his own IAMA subreddit. It really didn't do very well.

  • /r/business split off the posts about bad corporations into a new subreddit. Even though those were always the most popular posts in the business subreddit, /r/greed has barely 5000 subscribers. /r/business keeps 90,000. (Even when told that the content they want is somewhere else redditors won't move).

  • Davidreiss666 successfully killed a revolt by Meta-Canada by kicking it from the subreddit sidebar and deleting all posts mentioning it or complaining about the censorship. Likewise posts trying to start an alternate Canada-subreddit.

  • Anarchists annoyed with the heavy handed moderation in /r/anarchism started /r/blackflag. It has many many less subscribers.

  • /r/marijuana still has thousands and thousands of submissions and subscribers regardless of trees. Still run by the same guy.

  • /r/lgbt deletes information letting people know about /r/ainbow, forcing them to buy an ad at the top of the subreddit for a few days, but basically killing a ton of its growth potential. Still much smaller than /r/lgbt.

  • Does Anyone Else posts spun off from /r/Askreddit. Only 6000 subscribers. kONY 2012 Discussion ghettoised into it because OP phrased his question as "am I the only one", even though really good discussion was happening.

I'm sure there are more examples I am unaware of or have forgotten.

So... All subreddits are not equal. Redditors do not move from established subreddits well. Default subreddits get auto-subscribers. Starting your own subreddit means effectively being silenced, more often than not, with business as usual continuing for the status quo power structure.

[–]NotSoToughCookie -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

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Always with trees.

You claimed it was "unworkable". There are plenty of examples of spin-offs working successfully. I feel that people who claim it isn't a viable solution are simply lazy. Is it hard to do? Most certainly. It's not supposed to be easy. Most subreddits take a long time to build up a subscriber base. Spin-offs actually have an advantage the original didn't - a willing portion of an already established community ready to move.

IAMA nearly disappeared

No, it didn't. A replacement subreddit was already being formed with everyone ready & willing to head there. A subreddit closing down doesn't kill the idea completely.

Karmanaut is still top mod of IAMA despite the displeasure of the rest of the moderating team.

Is his presence affecting the users? No? I don't see the community of IAMA throwing a hissy fit over it. It might be a big deal here, but there, it has no impact on how that subreddit operates.

Mercurialmadnessman was kicked from the IAMA team and started his own IAMA subreddit. It really didn't do very well.

MMM was accused of spamming, cheating & gaming (amongst other things). It was essentially like Saydrah creating /r/AlternativePics a day after her witch-hunt. Of course it didn't do well..

/r/business split off the posts

This is a subjective statement on moderation style. I personally think it's a good thing.

Davidreiss666 successfully killed a revolt

That's still playing out. To soon to tell if the alternative will do well. You have to remember, not every alternative subreddit will succeed like you're implying it should. Some people like the way /r/canada is modded. People also have a tendency to blow drama out proportion - often times, the community could care less.

It has many many less subscribers.

See above

/r/marijuana still has thousands and thousands of submissions and subscribers regardless of trees. Still run by the same guy.

And? Why shouldn't it still exist? That's why creating alternative subreddits are a good thing. Perhaps some people like b34nz moderation style. Removing him or the mod would take that away from the people who do like it.

but basically killing a ton of its growth potential. Still much smaller than /r/lgbt.

/r/ainbow is a success story. They grew incredibly fast this last month or so. Most subreddits grow at a snails pace by comparison. They will only continue to grow, and likely will surpass /r/lgbt

Does Anyone Else posts spun off from /r/Askreddit.

Don't you mean /r/DoesAnybodyElse/ which has 111k subscribers? That is another amazing success story...

All subreddits are not equal.

They never were meant to be. Why do they deserve equality?

Redditors do not move from established subreddits well.

An opinion which I disagree with because there is proof to the contrary.

Starting your own subreddit means effectively being silenced

That's just plain incorrect. The difference is starting a "successful" subreddit. It takes work and time and a bit of luck - just like anything else in life.

[–]underdabridge 3ポイント4ポイント * (2子コメント)

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I feel that people who claim it isn't a viable solution are simply lazy

Haha. Did somebody wake up on the Republican side of the bed this morning?

DoesAnyBodyElse and 100,000 subscribers

I'm actually laughing (not at you). Thanks for letting me know about that subreddit! Neither I nor the OP of the Kony post knew about it, which I guess is why his post went to /r/DAE with 6000 subscribers. Which goes to show the problems inherent with balkanization as policy. Which leads to

/r/IAMA was fine people were all ready to start a new IAMA.

What actually happened was several people ran to start new IAMA channels with different names and no one was really clear of which one to follow, which is a waaay sub-optimal outcome. And why should anyone have to? Whatshisface (I forget IAMA creator's nick) has a fit of pique, so now you want HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE to coordinate, migrate and rebuild. I can't decide if this logic reminds me more of Howard Roarke insisting he had the right to blow up the building and fuck everyone else in the Fountainhead, or the expulsion of the Indians from Uganda.

Seriously: it is not ethically sound or just to put in place a system of power without accountability and to punish a large population for the bad actions of a bad actor - even on a little itty bitty internet forum.

/r/ainbow and canada

You fail to address my point that tyrant mods are becoming more effective at shutting down or limiting the impact of subreddit revolts. You just assert faith that they will ultimately succeed. But in the meantime they haven't. Getting ghettoised into a much smaller community while the bigger one persists is not success. It's punishment. And yes, you're right. MOST new subreddits grow at a snails pace, which is the problem.

Marijuana and b34nz.

Please be serious. It shouldn't have b34nz as a mod because b34nz is... unsuited to the position. It continues to exist because new users sign up for /r/marijuana and don't know the drama. They just reasonably sign up for /r/marijuana if they have an interest in marijuana. Shock of shocks.

Anarchism and Black Flag

Crickets. Chirp Chirp

/r/business and the point that redditors will move to new subreddits

But the redditors didn't move. All this content that people used to upvote, and which would generate big (circlejerky) discussions, got moved somewhere else but they didn't follow it. I don't believe that was because only 5000 of them liked that kind of content. The upvotes it used to get in /r/business put the lie to that.

All subreddits are not equal. Why do they deserve equality.

To quote Clint Eastwood: Deserve got nothing to do with it. The point I shall repeat: Getting ghettoized into a much smaller community while the bigger one persists is not success. It's punishment.

Starting your own subreddit isn't being silenced. The difference is starting a "successful" subreddit. It takes work and time and a bit of luck - just like anything else in life.

Your Republican is showing again. Not that there's anything completely wrong with that. But it's the same problematic logic. The mod is the bad actor, so now the users need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and go pioneer a new continent? And if their new leadership structure in the new homeland gets problematic they should rinse and repeat? Each time with a new, less obvious name for new users to discover? This is silly.

Since you seem to haul this account out lately mostly just to argue in favor of mod dominance I'll address another argument you made in another unrelated thread

If you let people take away my subreddit, I won't start one in the first place!

Then.... don't? Lots of other people will. There's no shortage of volunteers. Just like the mods whine that they'll all quit as mods if users don't stop being so thankless. OK BYE! I promise new mods will flow in to take your place. And new subreddits will still get created. But what's needed is a front end code of conduct. The idea that if reddit said: "You can start a subreddit but it isn't yours. You have the authority to be its caretaker as long as you are moderate, transparent, responsive to user concerns and don't abuse your authority etc." that no one would do the job is quite patently laughable. There are millions of redditors now. I'm pretty sure we could find reasonable moderate people willing to come forward and start lots of new subreddits and moderate them well.

tl;dr Accountability is tech.

[–]Corbenik 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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It is endlessly entertaining that you think you can generalize Republican thought to a single entity that acts in a certain way.

[–]NotSoToughCookie 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Did somebody wake up on the Republican side of the bed this morning?

I hope not. I'm not American.

and no one was really clear of which one to follow

That doesn't mean it wasn't in the works. Everything happened to quick for one to establish itself as a front-runner replacement. Your implying that wouldn't have happened at all. Quite misleading if you ask me.

it is not ethically sound or just to put in place a system of power without accountability

There is accountability. You just don't agree with it.

You fail to address my point that tyrant mods are becoming more effective at shutting down or limiting the impact of subreddit revolts.

Are you claiming there aren't other avenues to discuss/promote said revolts/migrations? Hell, /r/SRD is one.

They just reasonably sign up for /r/marijuana if they have an interest in marijuana

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just stating that the people unhappy with mods actions are usually a small vocal minority. When it's not just a small minority, that's when you get /r/trees and /r/ainbows. We shouldn't cater to the vocal minority, or 1%. (Figured I'd throw in a political analogy you could relate too)

But the redditors didn't move.

Because they didn't care or were happy with the change. I'm one of those who was happy with it. Like I said, vocal minority (the 1%).

Your Republican is showing again.

I wish you'd stop with that. I'm Australian (I'm positive I've mentioned it numerous times in my comment history, and used to be semi-active in /r/Australia)

Getting ghettoized into a much smaller community while the bigger one persists is not success. It's punishment.

If your idea and subreddit is something special, it won't be "ghettoized". Not all subreddits/mods/ideas are equal. I don't know why you keep perpetuating this myth. Should /r/spacedicks be a default subreddit? If you answered 'No', then you admit all subreddits are not created equally.

if their new leadership structure in the new homeland gets problematic they should rinse and repeat?

Yes. Reddit is a "community creation engine" according to the admins. This process is helping to facilitate that primary goal. You're using slippery-slope logic but that's not going to work here.

Since you seem to haul this account out lately mostly just to argue in favor of mod dominance

I'm a lurker and find the drama interesting. I remember when reddit was what it used to be years ago, and cheer any and all attempts on to help get it back to its roots. What you're proposing is the opposite of that so I'm stepping out from the lurking shadow to oppose it.

Then.... don't?

Exactly. I'll use this same logic: If you don't like the mods of a subreddit, Then don't subscribe to it. Only, your example is detrimental to reddit's primary goal of being a community creating engine. Mine isn't.

don't abuse your authority etc." that no one would do the job is quite patently laughable.

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying if I put in years of work to create a successful subreddit, that it could be swiftly taken away from me because a vocal minority was unhappy with my modding, then I wouldn't bother.

Given the drama and witch-hunts over the last year or two, the general reddit populace is swift to act even if they're wrong. All it would take is some half-assed witch-hunt to topple a subreddits mods if some sort of democratic method was instated.

[–]moonflower 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

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You are talking very much with an ''us and them'' attitude from the safety of your exclusive mod chat ... I don't know about anyone else, but I can tell you from personal experience that once you have been trashed by the power mods and labelled a troll, you become untermensch in reddit and there is nowhere to turn when mods are abusive towards you

I don't believe that there is any conspiracy or even any conscious decision to rule reddit from the exclusive mod chat, it's a system which evolved, driven by a few power hungry dictator personalities who put a lot of time and effort into manipulating their unwitting supporters and crushing those who speak out against them

[–]Nithing 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Your current downvote ratio in this sub suggests you should resign before this becomes another Laurelai situation - thoughts?

[–]TwasIWhoShotJR 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

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Lol. It's usually a bad sign when there is a new mod and drama occurs as a result.

Oh well.

Popcorniguess.png

[–]aznsex420 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I find bep to be delightful :(

[–]drblow 26ポイント27ポイント  (21子コメント)

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Do you feel as a "power" mod that there will be a conflict of interests for you in the future? If so, will moderation of this subreddit change?

[–]GAMEOVERVerified & Zero time banner contestant 30ポイント31ポイント  (3子コメント)

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Why do you want to moderate here? The only reason I can think of is that you (and many of the other power-mods) are upset that some of the mod IRC chats were submitted here and you want to put an end to that. So let me pose a hypothetical situation:

Let's say sushisushisushi posts another pastebin leak of an IRC chat that is potentially embarrassing to you or your moderator friends. What would you do? And how would we ever know?

[–]eoin2000 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

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This. This needs to be answered honestly. We all know LordGaGa resigned in the face of an 'embarrassing' IRC chat leak. Would BEP have the integrity or self-restraint to allow such a leak involving BEP (or other power-mods with which she is familiar/friendly)? Or would the ban-hammer start swinging?

Time will tell, I suppose. If BEP follows the rules of this subreddit, and leaves her grudges regarding users known as trolls in other subreddits at the door, then her work-rate could definitely be a good thing and we should give it a shot.

However, if the community feels that this is not the case, she should just leave voluntarily and without incident.

Lets give it a fair shake though. Keep the pitchforks in the barn until there is an actual need.

[–]13143 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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The problem is that if BEP does decide to ban IRC leaks, there is a legitimate chance that we will never know.

[–]ieattime20 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Let's say sushisushisushi posts another pastebin leak of an IRC chat that is potentially embarrassing to you or your moderator friends. What would you do? And how would we ever know?

BEP is at the bottom of the mod totem pole. Let me tell you how this goes: Sushisushisushi sends a modmail about an IRC log being deleted. mikemcg or another mod sees it, unblocks it, and slaps BEP over the head. Problem solved.

[–][deleted] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Just a quick question, why do you mod so many things? Do you have a day job or any sort of life, outside of the internet?

[–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Why do you want to be a moderator here?

A lot of people don't want you here. I don't see what you gain that doesn't involve squelching drama.

[–][deleted] 18ポイント19ポイント  (4子コメント)

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someone who contributes to BeatingCripples, beatingtrannies, beatingwomen

Damn, you really know how to ad hominem, don't you?

[–]darkmodem 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

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Off-topic ad hominem character assassination attacks as a first post as moderator? Welcome to /r/subredditdrama!

Notice now none of my concerns have been addressed, either.

[–][deleted] 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

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This is just another BEP joint to which I do not subscribe. Y'all have fun. I'm gonna get pissed and watch "Attack The Block".

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How was it? I've heard great things, but two monster movies already disappointed me (Super 8 could have been great).

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I thoroughly enjoyed it. The monsters were cool, but the actions of the protagonist Moses were the main focus of the movie.

[–]darkmodem 57ポイント58ポイント  (46子コメント)

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Thanks for the shout-out. Singling out one user from the millions that you moderate? I'm actually quite proud.

LordGaga was extremely level-headed and didn't care where one came from, so long as the desire was enjoyment of drama and popcorn.

You, on the other hand, have shown the willingness to carry a grudge across subreddits without regard to the rules of the individual subreddits. I feel you are completely immature in this regard.

You are unfit, unfair, and not trustworthy enough to moderate a subreddit dedicated to subreddit drama as you take part in drama yourself.

What we need are impartial moderators.

Good day.

[–][deleted] 36ポイント37ポイント  (2子コメント)

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popcorn

[–]Schroedingers_gif 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

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Meta popcorn no less.

[–]DonaldMcRonald 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

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It doesn't even taste like anything. It tastes like...the feeling of popcorn.

[–]go1dfish/r/AntiTax /r/FairShare 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

You, on the other hand, have shown the willingness to carry a grudge across subreddits without regard to the rules of the individual subreddits. I feel you are completely immature in this regard.

You are unfit, unfair, and not trustworthy enough to moderate a subreddit dedicated to subreddit drama as you take part in drama yourself.

What we need are impartial moderators.

I submit my recent ban from /r/WTF as evidence.

[–]darkmodem 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

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I'm waiting for a ban myself. I would love to see what's going on in modtalk or IRC right now...

[–]lanismycousin[🍰] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I'm waiting for mine as well ....

[–]drunk_otter 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

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I'll give you a shout-out for regularly having the best sense of humour of most people I see regularly, if that means anything to you.

[–]darkmodem 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

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I'm just glad BritishEnglishPolice didn't mention any of the more disturbing subreddits I contribute to or I would have been embarrassed.

Cheers!

[–]drunk_otter 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

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Dude - I know - some of that shit you post over at /r/corgi is messed up, man.

[–]darkmodem 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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The mods over there love me though. All the controversy is driving subscribers.

[–]eightNote 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[meta]

[–]volothebard 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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No [meta] tag. Tisk tisk.

[–]DisregardMyPants 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

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While it's great you've done the mod queue, I'm just not confident about the whole "conflict of interest" thing.

We've already seen multiple cases where people have tried to prevent things from ending up here, especially in more protected mod chats. These people are frequently power mods who you know well. Having someone who is that close to the people who are likely to be the topics of unwanted discussion here just doesn't seem like a good fit.

I have no doubt that your heart is in the right place, but there's a different perspective that comes with being a power mod that I personally would not want to see take over our little censor-free drama refuge.

[–][deleted] 19ポイント20ポイント  (6子コメント)

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As you long as you do the job, who cares.

[–]joetromboni 23ポイント24ポイント  (4子コメント)

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make the mod log public and I don't care who is a mod, or how many places they show up as mod. Until then, I will be suspicious of all the "power hungry" "need to be center of attention" mods this website has.

[–][deleted] 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

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I do think that it is ridiculous that there are 'power mods' or 'celebrity mods'.

[–]go1dfish/r/AntiTax /r/FairShare -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I'm doing what I can here without cooperation from moderators here: /r/PoliticalModeration at least for politically oriented sub-reddits.

[–]mewkmaster 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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This is exactly how I feel about this. It's not like they appointed Laurelai or some SRS member.

[–]Corbenik 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I'm actually not really sure what happened. Is the problem that he is a power moderator? I mean, judging from the upvote-downvote ratio on the overall post, this is apparently very controversial. Why?

[–]Amarae 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

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darkmodem, someone who contributes to BeatingCripples, beatingtrannies, beatingwomen

;n; ... I... what?

Uh, anyway, I don't know anything about you really, I'm more just a lurker of this subreddit (And fairly new at that) but seems like you're getting some unfounded hate here. I don't think the moderators of a sub need to be this big an issue anyway ._.

[–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

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Just discovered darkmodem contributes to the delightful /r/Starvin_Marvins through a quick click on his post history. "Your image posting must contain at least one starving child" state the sidebar rules.

Now I've found that, at least I know it's time to turn the internet off.

[–]Amarae 6ポイント7ポイント * (0子コメント)

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http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/126/314/3cd8a33a.png?1306264975

... That's just... :c

Edit:

Attempting to defame a person because of actions irrelevant to criticism is nothing less than emotional appeal. You should address the person's position and not the person.

Has a good point however.

[–]Antazaz 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I, for one, welcome you. From what I have seen, you are a good mod, and I doubt you will break the rules. And if you do, well, www.reddit.com/r/subredditdramadrama

[–]ZeroShiftSRD Founder 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

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Forgot the [meta] tag ;)

I look forward to your moderation services here in SRD, and hope that we can all get along.

[–]BritishEnglishPolice[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

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D: I can resubmit?

[–][deleted] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Reddit, I think we're forgetting what downvotes are for...

[–]Fat_Dumb_Americans 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Do you agree with this statement; paraphrased from a judicial review of English legal proceedings regarding impartiality, recusal, and natural justice?

Not only must Justice be done; it must also be seen to be done.

I do - I hope that you do too, and accordingly that you will take the right and honourable decision to step down from modding /r/SubredditDrama.

[–]EnjoysInternetDrama 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Good luck.

[–]Rswany 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

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Hello.

[–]The3rdWorld 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

awww BEP we haven't got a problem with you - it's just that if you don't stir the butter all sinks to the bottom and the top kernels don't get covered...

[–]paulfromatlanta -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

Hello. Welcome. Sorry about that crack in in TOR :)

[–][deleted] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I think you'll do fine. People are taking the internet way too seriously.