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Woman is arrested after climbing pole, removing Confederate flag from outside South Carolina statehouse (bigstory.ap.org)

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[–]SHEAHOFOSHO 313ポイント314ポイント  (167子コメント)

Is it true that the flag doesn't fly over the statehouse, but rather flies over a confederate war memorial?

[–]samsammich [スコア非表示]  (110子コメント)

This is correct.

[–]AnonForSenate [スコア非表示]  (106子コメント)

Are there alternative flags that could be flown over the memorial?

I'm asking because I don't know. Would an American flag be pissing on them? What about the state's flag?

[–]godofallcows [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

They have like 8 god damn confederate flags to choose from.

[–]rainzer [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

So fly the white one

[–]nixonrichard [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Jokes aside, they're nearly all white. Primarily white flags didn't have the same negative connotations in the past they have today.

The flag that flies there now is actually a white-bordered flag (not actually the same flag atop the general lee) which was generally flown on a larger white flag as a battle flag or jack.

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    [–]Codoro [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    They could just fly the one they use at the Texas capitol and at six flags, I've heard no one give any fucks about that one.

    [–]harrison3bane [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    But controversy

    [–]93calcetines [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

    Flying a US flag over the memorial would be a bit dishonoring to the people it's there for. A state flag may be acceptable, but that would be something to ask the families of the fallen I think.

    It would be something along the lines of, if the US rebellion hadn't succeeded and we had a memorial for the fallen rebel soldiers in Pennsylvania, what flag should be flown there?

    [–]Redskinsthebestskins [スコア非表示]  (24子コメント)

    Its a war memorial.

    The confederate flag is fine to fly over a war memorial.

    [–]OrgasmicChemistry [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

    I wish they would just fly one of the official confederate flags instead of the battle flag which is now more associated, imo, with the KKK. They have like 3 others to choose from.

    [–]jej218 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    The problem is that most of the confederate flags besides the one we as society associate with racism actually have racism in their designs. i.e the white in some flags represents "white supremacy". I hate to say it but the Battle flag of the Confederate States is probably the least racist flag and the best fitting for a Confederate war memorial.

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      [–]GCSThree [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

      how about a real confederate flag?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULBCuHIpNgU

      [–]BrenMan_94 [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

      Honestly, there doesn't need to be a flag. Every local knows it's the Confederate memorial. IMO flying the flag gives off the impression that those men were fighting for slavery and not just to keep their homes and families safe.

      [–]KingPotatoHead [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

      IMO flying the flag gives off the impression that those men were fighting for slavery and not just to keep their homes and families safe.

      Depends on who you ask. It's commonly said where I live that the war was not fought over slavery, as Lincoln wasn't going to abolish slavery in states where it was still around, but only in territories.

      A lot of people see it as a war fought over state's rights, as the catalyst was that South Carolina said Fort Sumter was their's and the U.S. government said that it belonged to them.

      [–]captainbrainiac [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

      I agree...it depends on who you ask.

      Just like when Jessica comes to work and I say, "Good morning, Jessica, I just have to say, your legs look great today."

      I can argue until the cows come home that she's taking it completely wrong, that I mean that as a compliment. Fuck her if she can't take a compliment, right? And fuck her husband if he can't handle me complimenting his wife.

      Like you said, depends on who you ask - those doing the offending or those being offended.

      [–]thetrashproject [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

      The civil war was primarily about states' rights

      [–]Edward_Campos [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

      What makes you think they fought for slavery?

      From what I've read in history books the Confederate fought because they wanted all States to have a greater degree of governing power, and they felt the Federal government was not allowing them to have that power.

      Slavery just happened to be a big issue. The Confederate believed the legality of slavery should be settled at a state level, not a Federal level. Obviously I disagree with that ideology, but to imply all Confederate soldiers fought only for slavery is to ignore historical fact.

      Or have the books I've read lied to me?

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            [–]Mgnickel [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

            It's a couple hundred feet from the statehouse, on the same grounds

            [–]HugItChuckItFootball [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

            Hasn't flown over the dome for 15 years.

            [–]Zidden [スコア非表示]  (18子コメント)

            Wow is this really true?

            I'm not American but it feels very disrespectful to remove a flag from a war memorial

            [–]notrespasser [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

            I'm from SC. It sits in the front lawn of the statehouse. I predict, if it gets removed from state grounds, a bigger memorial will go up somewhere public.

            [–]ginroth [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

            There's slightly more context to the issue than just that though, obviously. One might quite reasonably think that it's rather more disrespectful to the large black community of Charleston to hang a flag of oppression and racism right in front of the statehouse, for example...

            [–]acertaingestault [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

            This is the flag used by the KKK and neo nazis, people violently against the rights of non-whites.

            The flag wasn't flown on the SC statehouse grounds until 1962 as a protest against integrated the local university. It's a symbol of racism, and I say that as someone from this state. What's disrespectful is that we've let it fly for more than 50 years, despite the president and the state governor and many citizens speaking out against it.

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              [–]Rbeattie98 [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

              So then why is everyone praising this?

              [–]BlackBlarneyStone [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

              because its the politically correct conclusion to jump to

              [–]CullDaddy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

              Because the media has convinced people that this symbol represents hate and racism, rather than any historical meaning. The media says it's flying over the state house when it's really just a memorial for dead soldiers.

              [–]Pliny_the_middle [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

              Cuz circlejerk, anti-confederate flag karma.

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                [–]telmyn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                If it was actually over the statehouse that would have been a lot more dangerous of a protest. More like in front of state house (there's no memorial visible in this photo but presumably it's around.)

                https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIgzThlWcAA55hd.jpg:large

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                  [–]twolf1[S] 792ポイント793ポイント  (770子コメント)

                  Here she is

                  [–]toresbe 120ポイント121ポイント  (83子コメント)

                  USA Today identifies her as Bree Newsome, acting in some connection with a group called Ferguson Action

                  [–]maryveryveryvery [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                  Two different departments handled it because they needed an African American cop there, too.

                  [–]SSJ4MajinGogetenks [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

                  I wonder what those officers were thinking.

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                    [–]I_are_facepalm 104ポイント105ポイント  (9子コメント)

                    And when I feel a bit naughty, I run it up the flagpole and see, who salutes but no one ever does...

                    [–]snilks 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    pretty sure its salutes not looks

                    [–]IICVX [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                    The whole point of the saying is to make the joke that spies from the country you don't like were so nationalistic and stupid that they would reflexively salute their own flag, if you ran it up the flag pole. That's why you "run it up the flagpole and see who salutes".

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                      [–]NzLawless [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                      Far out. Have not heard that song in a long time.

                      [–]MegaBattleJesus [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      Paranoia, paranoia, everybody's coming to get me

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                        [–]litecoinminer111 1192ポイント1193ポイント  (229子コメント)

                        This is a little ridiculous and the bias is showing here.

                        1) It was in the process of being officially removed. This just interrupts the process.

                        2) Her being a "tax payer" is irrelevant.

                        3) A statehouse is a nonpublic domain. Essentially stealing from private property.

                        4) If this was a gay pride flag stolen yesterday by some hick y'all would be speaking with a much different tone.

                        The flag is stupid but jesus guys.

                        [–]mulduvar2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        She was just playing a 135 year old game of capture the flag.

                        [–]Sonmi-452 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                        A statehouse is a nonpublic domain.

                        What? It is the EXACT definition of the public domain.

                        [–]DinoDonkeyDoodle [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                        Lawyer here. This is correct, though it generally falls under a "quasi-public" domain, meaning they can bar entry for certain purposes, but it is generally a public domain.

                        [–]Thegreenpander [スコア非表示]  (62子コメント)

                        It's kind of sad that I had to scroll down this far to find an objective comment.

                        [–]nizzleone [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        First comment is "here she is" with a picture of her, I don't think it gets more objective than that.

                        [–]_MMCXII [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

                        Reddit can only handle one viewpoint at a time, everything else gets buried under different phrasings of that opinion.

                        [–]hideisalive [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

                        Comparing the Confederate flag to a pride flag isn't objective

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                          [–]empty_coffeepot [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          1) It was in the process of being officially removed. This just interrupts the process.

                          that should have happened....um over a century ago

                          [–]PIP_SHORT [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

                          It's almost as if people are biased against a symbol of racism...

                          It's like Israelis and the swastika, they're so biased against it...

                          [–]IncomingPitchforks [スコア非表示]  (79子コメント)

                          4) If this was a gay pride flag stolen yesterday by some hick y'all would be speaking with a much different tone.

                          Maybe because the gay pride flag doesn't represent hate.

                          [–]ItsHapppening [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                          Us good! Them bad!

                          [–]muchdogeisenseinyou [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                          Saying it represents "hate" is like saying the gay pride flag represents "immorality". Your statement is colored by your own negative bias and opinion.

                          [–]VixVixious [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          The bias of believing that what the separatists believed in and fought for was morally reprehensible? That bias is call being a decent human being.

                          [–]firebearhero [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          it represente the fight for the right to own humans as property. lol

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                            [–]BlackBlarneyStone [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                            so vandalism is ok when everybodys feelyfeels feel good about it

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                              [–]rwoj [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                              the bias is showing here.

                              of course there's a bias.

                              public opinion wants this shit burned to the ground.

                              [–]Kiltredash [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              Is that the public opinion? Or just Reddits. I'd also rather not take these things into their own hands, it doesn't help anyone.

                              [–]el_guapo_malo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              If this was a gay pride flag stolen yesterday by some hick y'all would be speaking with a much different tone.

                              It's almost as if context and historical perspective matter.

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                                [–]BattleDrillOneAlpha [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                It's Reddit. Most people here are college aged liberals who are fair weather supporters.

                                [–]PeterPorky [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                If this was a gay pride flag stolen yesterday by some hick y'all would be speaking with a much different tone.

                                Yep, tearing down just about any other flag that many hold to be a symbol of their heritage would be seen as incredibly disrespectful.

                                [–]bigrob_in_ATX [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                Gee, how many points are you presumptuous on? 1. There is a process, but the outcome is not certain by any stretch of the imagination. 2. true 3. The statehouse is exactly a public domain, it is literally "the peoples house", I have no idea where the hell you get this notion. 4. The gay pride flag doesn't represent a movement to secede from the union because you are afraid your rights to enslave an entire race of peoples might possibly be infringed upon.

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                                  [–]TakesTheWrongSideGuy [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                  Since they took the confederate flag off the top of the capital building in South Carolina and put it on the state capital grounds people have periodically removed it. That's why they build a small fence around the flag pole. I lived in Columbia about 10 years ago and remember people occasionally doing this.

                                  [–]twolf1[S] 173ポイント174ポイント  (74子コメント)

                                  Here's a shot of the flag being removed

                                  [–]hobbylobbyist1 [スコア非表示]  (53子コメント)

                                  Another angle with statehouse more visible in background

                                  [–]SSJ4MajinGogetenks [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                  Say what you want about America, but our state architecture is majestic as fuuuck!

                                  [–]Boredguy32 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                  Great photo. I love that she dressed like a ninja for this.

                                  [–]cth777 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                  could she not just lower the flag as opposed to climbing all the way up?

                                  [–]238 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                  I miss read the post as steakhouse. When I saw this picture I was like damn.

                                  [–]Blitzcreed23 [スコア非表示]  (42子コメント)

                                  Now THAT will probably will get put into a history book.

                                  [–]darockerj [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                  Shit's album cover quality.

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                                      [–]Leecannon_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                      Commit a crime, you get arrest. This is how law works

                                      [–]SnatchTease [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

                                      Meanwhile reddit is removing TPP and TTIP posts all over reddit.

                                      [–]joker68 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                                      And muslims are cutting off heads bombing and shooting people all over globe. It's pretty pathetic to see so many people eating their spoon fed manufactured "issue" while the world burns

                                      [–]lmpetus [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                      Feminists and civil rights activists will find petty issues to focus on in the United States while women are essentially second class citizens hardly above animals in many areas of the Muslim world. 'Microaggressions' in one of the most 'progressive' countries in the world seem to be of bigger concern than blatant oppression.

                                      [–]SSJ4MajinGogetenks [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                      Race. It's what's for dinner. Tonight.

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                                        [–]thatobviouswall [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                        Literally search TPP on the Reddit search engine.

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                                          [–]Colspex [スコア非表示]  (16子コメント)

                                          Guys, as a European, can you enlighten me. Is the flag really, really bad? Or has this thing just escalated? To me it has always felt like another version of the american flag. What does it symbolise to you? Do you think it will disappear from public now?

                                          [–]tbc31cc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          There has been a lot of uproar about that flag, and some of it definitely has gone too far (see Apple removing all Confederate War apps from their app store). For some individuals, it represents individual liberty and state's rights. However, the flag does have a bad history, especially the flag that this woman tried to take down.

                                          The flag that is flying right now is actually the Virginia Confederate Battle flag. After the Civil War it became pretty popular in the South and it was adopted as a symbol of Southern pride for a lot of people. However, it is not a secret that the Confederacy's main goal in the Civil War was to maintain their slave-based economy, so that's a one big negative mark on that flag's history.

                                          Later in the 20th century, the flag was adopted by a few groups that promoted racist ideologies, specifically the Dixiecrats and the KKK (they used a modified version, but the main design is still there). The Dixiecrats were a party of primarily Southern Democrats that broke off from the main party because they wanted to enforce segregation while other Democrats did not. And the KKK is... the KKK. There really isn't much more to say about them. So those are two more bad marks on the history of this flag.

                                          Lastly, the exact flag that is flying by the SC statehouse was originally placed on the dome of the statehouse in 1962, around the time the Civil Rights movement was gaining ground. Most other Southern States brought down their flags, but the SC legislature voted to have their flag up. I can't really prove this, but this appeared to be an intentional move by segregationists in the SC government to voice their opposition to the Civil Rights movement. To me, this is the biggest reason why that flag at the SC statehouse needs to go down. I think it was originally flown as a "fuck you" to the Civil Rights activists, and choosing to have it continue flying promotes that sentiment. I am not in favor of banning the flag in public. I think any individual that wants to display it on their clothing or private property has the right to, but for the reasons I listed above, I think it's in poor taste for any government to associate themselves with that flag, especially SC.

                                          [–]Maxwyfe [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                                          That flag was the battle flag of a great American General Robert E Lee. West Point educated with General and eventual President Ulysses Grant, he led the Confederate army of N Virginia against the U.S. and Gen. Grant.

                                          The flag was adopted by the KKK and White Power movement as a symbol of rebellion, and White Supremacy.

                                          It is also still part of several U.S. state flags, mainstream clothing and merchandise and generally represents freedom and rebellion.

                                          So it all depends on context. On a tee shirt = fine. On a tee shirt carried by a skinhead with a White Power banner = bad.

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                                            [–]senseandsarcasm [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

                                            So basically, the flag has hung on that memorial for 15 years, any resident of Charlotte, NC would know that...and yet for the past 15 years she didn't feel the need to go and do this?

                                            But now that there's actual movement and a formal bill in front of the legislature to remove the flag ... she's going to interrupt that process and create a bunch of crap to do this???

                                            Ridiculous.

                                            I'd be applauding her if she had done if three months ago in an attempt to get the discussion going on the flag. But now? Just attention-seeking crap from a "filmmaker".

                                            [–]xBlackbiird 41ポイント42ポイント  (50子コメント)

                                            On the news, I heard that pro-flag supporters are going to rally at that same spot later on today.

                                            [–]thesockiest 45ポイント46ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                            and they 100% have the right to do so.

                                            The flag will be removed. It is going to happen. That does not mean that people cant peacefully demonstrate in support of flying the flag. The flag means different things to different people. Just like the US flag. They have the right to express those opinions.

                                            [–]Its_Always_420 69ポイント70ポイント  (40子コメント)

                                            They have to get their white hoods and sheets washed first

                                            [–]RRera 41ポイント42ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                            Plenty of people have 'Southern Pride' without being racist. They may just find it stupid to let some idiot, misguided loser who decided to shoot up a church have a huge effect on the nation. That's giving anyone who decides to do something like that exactly what they want. Not to mention, the flag is over a memorial for soldiers who fought under it; and to think people only fought for that flag because they were treasonous racists is ignorant in itself.

                                            It baffles my mind how quickly people will look down at and generalize others just so they can feel superior.

                                            [–]cme884 [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

                                            I'm a white southern male, and I can tell you for a fact that it's possible to be proud of some parts of your heritage while recognizing that other parts suck. The people still clinging onto that flag might not consider themselves bigots, but if they choose to ignore its history as a symbol of terror for a large portion of the country, then they are delusional. These days the flag isn't representative of the South as a whole, just the angry white people who feel threatened. Luckily, this past week has opened up many of their eyes, and those who continue to wave the stars and bars will be further marginalized.

                                            [–]crocajun1003 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                            I'm right there with you. I'm a white southern male. I'm proud of southern hospitality, southern manners, southern food and cooking, but that flag doesn't represent any of that for me. That flag represents a time where people owned other people.

                                            [–]deathbysnusnu7 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                            War is terror. The symbols just represent what side of the terror you represent. What troubles me is the incessant need for America as a country to be 1 unified homogenous thought when it was designed to be a pot of different beliefs and ideals...right, wrong, or indifferent.

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                                                    [–]kolop1 93ポイント94ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                    Woman breaks the law and gets arrested.

                                                    [–]jimbobushido 23ポイント24ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                    my brother climbed a flagpole in highschool and zip tied a confederate flag with a skull on it to the flag pole. no one could climb it to get it down so they cut it off level with the ground. he also did the same with his boxers at boyscout camp every year

                                                    [–]Nukem_From_Orbit 100ポイント101ポイント  (58子コメント)

                                                    This flag shit is getting ridiculous. Like, i can understand this sorta but when you have people like apple and the like taking down civil war games... You might as well remove ww2 games because the Nazi symbol.

                                                    [–]alleghenyirish [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                    such a straw man argument, try to use critical thinking please.

                                                    having flags and logos in video games that are looking for historical accuracy of actual past events is fine.

                                                    having a flag that represented Secession from our current nation and was a banner that supported an ideology that stood for enslaving a large amount of our current population's ancestors and treating them as subhumans, fly proudly on the grounds of a State Capitol Building is not.

                                                    [–]golden_boy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                    I promise you if a german state hung the Nazi flag at it's legislature, I'd run like hell

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                                                      [–]clarke187 [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

                                                      “Nobody has the right to not be offended. That right doesn't exist in any declaration I have ever read.

                                                      If you are offended it is your problem, and frankly lots of things offend lots of people.

                                                      I can walk into a bookshop and point out a number of books that I find very unattractive in what they say. But it doesn't occur to me to burn the bookshop down. If you don't like a book, read another book. If you start reading a book and you decide you don't like it, nobody is telling you to finish it.

                                                      ― Salman Rushdie

                                                      [–]gus2155 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                      You gotta give her credit. Not everyone can climb a pole.

                                                      [–]Handicapreader 108ポイント109ポイント  (63子コメント)

                                                      The Battle Flag in question here is hanging on a war memorial erected in 1879 to honor those that died during the Civil War. The CSA's national flag is not used, because the monument is meant to honor those that died in battle.

                                                      [–]tight_and_stiff [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                      But it was taken down and put up in 1962 as a response to the civil rights movement. So, that would imply a very different purpose for hoisting that flag.

                                                      It should be gone by now. This shit is getting ridiculous.

                                                      [–]nulledit [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                      Just to clarify, it was put up on the capital building in 1962, below the U.S. and SC flags, for the Civil War centenary. Then in 2001, after many calls for its removal from state grounds entirely, it was moved to a new 30ft flag pole by the memorial.

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                                                        [–]elos_ [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                        It was put up in 1962 lol just as they were kicking and screaming about civil rights. But tell yourself it's a "memorial".

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                                                          [–]FireOccator [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                          This shit is still going on.

                                                          [–]Old_man_Trafford [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                          And now she's going to jail....

                                                          [–]bluetruckapple 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          When you're a stripper but you protest on the side...

                                                          [–]marktx 77ポイント78ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                                          I'm impressed by her motivations for doing this.. but I'm a bit ashamed to admit that I'm even more impressed by the fact she was able to climb a flagpole and then remove a flag.

                                                          A+ on both parts.

                                                          [–]TruckChuck 37ポイント38ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                          Why are these topics not being removed for rule 3 "Primarily concerns politics"

                                                          [–]Full_Metal_Packet [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                                          Wow I hate everyone saying "she is a hero" shut up, no she is not.

                                                          [–]Edoexplosivepawn 64ポイント65ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                                          ITT: Antiflag circlejerk

                                                          [–]Antirainbow2015 [スコア非表示]  (18子コメント)

                                                          Because the double standard piece of shit world we live in protects one set of beliefs and pushes it on everyone, while also making it perfectly ok to target another set of beliefs and values for destruction.

                                                          [–]t0t0zenerd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                          Well yeah. Because racism and hate is wrong. Destroying racism seems like a pretty cool thing to do.

                                                          [–]PoorTony [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                                          That's not a double standard. It's just a standard.

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                                                            [–]shifty313 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Did she try last month or did she just hop on the bandwagon?

                                                            [–]FluffyBunnyHugs 43ポイント44ポイント  (27子コメント)

                                                            You have to be damn strong to climb to the top of a flag pole and remove the flag while up there. We have a new Super Hero. We shall call her 'The Yankee'. We know who her arch enemy is.

                                                            [–]KKamwah [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                            With how some people are acting you would've thought that flag shot several black people.

                                                            [–]KivKiv [スコア非表示]  (16子コメント)

                                                            I'm not from America and have no idea about the politics, but don't most people who use this flag, use it because it's culturally significant to them? I'm pretty sure by now it's transcended all this slave owning shit, and to most people, it's a symbol of their part of the US. Am I wrong?

                                                            [–]Caridor [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                                            Blaming the flag is so much easier than tackling the issues, right 'Murica?

                                                            [–]Moyeboy07 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                            What the fuck does this article mean when it says "in what police characterize to be a racist attack"... In what way wasn't it racist?

                                                            [–]chrisbcritter [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                            Onion was spot on 15 years ago: http://www.theonion.com/americanvoices/confederate-flag-controversy-14547

                                                            [–]CallMeTedTurner [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1vOQ4Ts2tg

                                                            [–]jb4l [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                            My first reaction to the title was "Well, no shit"

                                                            [–]UnderTheSeaIBe 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                            What's with all these racist apologetic SJW fucks? Oh wait, forgot, reddit.

                                                            [–]mike932 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                                                            redditor are good at two things.... watching cat videos and cheering criminals

                                                            [–]GuiltySparklez0343 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                            And only holding a single opinion on an issue at a time while also downvoting everyone who disagrees.

                                                            NO ONE here is saying the flag should stay up, I have yet to see that.

                                                            The only things people have said is that it was in the process of being removed, and she just fucked with it and jumped on the "anti-flag" bandwagon. If she did it 3 months ago to get a discussion going then it would mean something.

                                                            [–]mike932 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                            she's black. black people have a tendency to commit crimes.

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                                                                [–]sarcastroll [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                This flag is a historical symbol of those who were willing to fight, die, and kill their fellow Americans for their right to own another human being. It was the battle-flag, used in that killing of their fellow Americans.

                                                                As such it has no place in society as any sort of public symbol proudly displayed as representing your state now.

                                                                However, it very much belongs in war museums, monuments, etc... as it has genuine historical significance.

                                                                In this case it was on a war memorial, so I see no problem with it.

                                                                I also feel people have every right to hang it on their homes, wear it, paint it on their cars, or do whatever else they want with it. At best they are ignorant of what they are representing. At worst they are despicable, racist pieces of shit. But either way they have every damned right to be so in this country.

                                                                [–]NewWorldDestroyer [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

                                                                It's a fucking flag dipshits. Not having one present will not stop racism.

                                                                [–]there_all_is_aching 28ポイント29ポイント  (42子コメント)

                                                                Good for her. This is a great example of civil disobedience.

                                                                [–]HugeSaladFork [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                It's a confederate war memorial.

                                                                [–]Rbeattie98 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                And this was at a confederate memorial.

                                                                [–]Calimali 150ポイント151ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                And God damn athleticism!

                                                                [–]jlees88 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                This is Mulan level athleticism.

                                                                [–]_YEAH_ 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                She does look very fit.

                                                                [–]EdgarAllanRoevWade 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Seriously, that should be the story here. 30 feet up, unclip the flag, 30 feet back down. No way I could do that.

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                                                                  [–]seanjohn12117 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  This is a great example of young liberals patting themselves on the back and thinking they're good people when they're doing more harm than good.

                                                                  [–]OverkillTASF [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Or vandalism?

                                                                  [–]Djc493 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  No it isn't.

                                                                  [–]Ventorpoe [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

                                                                  Getting arrested for nothing. Not really good for her, actually.

                                                                  [–]Rbeattie98 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  This is an example of theft

                                                                  [–]mike932 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                  This is a great example of theft.

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                                                                    [–]Wilky323 10ポイント11ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                                                    So because it offends her it should be banned? I love how nobody sees a problem with this.

                                                                    [–]klumb [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Wait. She climbed the fucking pole? HAHA

                                                                    [–]NotRoosterTeeth [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                    We do need to point out here that it is not flying over the state house, but a civil war memorial. Just putting it out there

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