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DiscussionI am displeased with Nintendo (self.amiibo)

Skyrekon が 投稿

I'm putting my foot down for a minute before I cave back in to say this:

Nintendo, fuck you.

I understand the concept of a bubble and what you're trying to do to generate demand for your product - but fuck you Nintendo.

Fuck you for prioritizing penny squeezing over the satisfaction of your customers.

Fuck you for indirectly creating such a hostile collecting environment that has inevitably led to more toxicity than I've EVER seen in a Nintendo community.

John Vignocchi was right - your actions are irresponsible and rude to your loyal customers. You are well on the path to becoming EA at this rate, except at least EA actually makes something for their customers to buy, rather than showing it off at the largest industry trade show and then making it impossible to get.

And most importantly of all: Fuck you for lying about it. Fuck you for this feigned ignorance of the problem and these claims that you're working on it. You know exactly what you're doing.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to spend the next 18 hours worrying about whether Lucina will still be in stock when I head to NWS at 6 PM tomorrow night.

P.S. I still love Shiggy

tl;dr YEA I'M (blacklisted word)

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[–]aloveaquatic 22ポイント23ポイント  (7子コメント)

Apparently Trihexxx (a streamer) talked to a Nintendo rep about the amiibo shortage, and he said that the reason why there is an immense shortage is that the initial means of production was small because they didn't expect the huge demand, and it was impossible to increase scale because of the fact that amiibos are hand-painted, which they had chose over manufacture-spray for cost reasons. They're ramping up production now that they can but for the past five months or so it was stagnating due to these problems.

[–]vKatsune 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

As I said in a bellow comment: "They only sent one shipment in low quantities for select characters. The only time you see a company send one single shipment of a product is when they want said product to be rare and or limited."

[–]LouisIV 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean yeah but stocking 50 characters at every store at once probably wouldn't happen.

[–]vKatsune [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Stock 8 characters, send 8~20 of each character per store, continue to send more shipments of all 8 of those characters every week or two for about 2 months. After those 2 months, stop sending shipments of those 8 characters, letting them phase out while you send 8 new characters doing the same thing as before.

After all characters of the series are released, look to see if there are any characters that fans are highly requesting to make a return, and see about restocking those characters.

[–]pikaboo123 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

And we still don't see any improvement

If it's not better by Christmas of this year, it will never get better

Also giving up production space to every single franchise (Yoshi's Wooly World, Super Mario Maker, Animal Crossing, ect.) Is certainly NOT acceptable when your company has less than half of it's product available to purchase

[–]bobomb2014 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those were probably already planned waaay ahead of Nintendo getting feedback from the market about amiibo demand. They can't just drop what they had planned just to increase production of already released figures, that would make them loose the money that had already placed in purchasing orders for the new releases. I honestly think they thought this was just going to be a cheap grab for money and didn't foresee it becoming the popular hobby it is now. I'm more worried about the amiibo functionality now. I have both the new 3ds and wiiU and really I rarely use the amiibo for what they are intended instead I just have them displayed which is not a con at all.

[–]makemeking706 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And we still don't see any improvement

How many more did they make, relatively speaking, and how much more did demand increase? I don't think there is any reason to assume that demand stayed the same since launch, so we likely don't see improvement because the target is moving.

Further, you're assuming these production runs took place at a time they could have taken that information into account. These could have been made, and been sitting in warehouses waiting for distribution.

[–]Sabermatrixx 45ポイント46ポイント  (0子コメント)

This title has been the general feeling of this sub since like December.

[–]darksarcasm01 37ポイント38ポイント  (69子コメント)

Sorry Nintendo didn't meet the unexpected demand

They're reprinting them

Don't be mad

Nintendo made things you love, don't hate them for it

[–]vKatsune 17ポイント18ポイント  (23子コメント)

They only sent one shipment in low quantities for select characters. The only time you see a company send one single shipment of a product is when they want said product to be rare and or limited.

[–]valhalenDZ 17ポイント18ポイント  (13子コメント)

what's funny is i'm reading the shareholder meeting notes right now and Iwata is basically saying they don't want an influx of their IP in the marketplace so much that it devalues their property, they do NOT want their stuff sitting on shelves, it really does fit with what we're seeing

[–]vKatsune 16ポイント17ポイント  (11子コメント)

~Looks at all the Mario and Peach on the shelves~ I guess Iwata finds it fine to devalue the Mario franchise. I think it does the opposite. By having the product there, it might introduce a kid to a new character they never saw before.

[–]pikaboo123 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

And since Ness and WFT sold out, they must be really popular and important to Nintendo

[–]Lordofthereef 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ness has had fewer games than Wii fit trainer. How effing sad is that?

[–]SwampyBogbeard [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not sad at all?
He was always intended to only have one game.

[–]voneahhh 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

SSB Peach is getting harder to come by.

[–]Gameface121 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Idk where you live but thats not the case where i do

[–]darksarcasm01 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Lol if I'm a kid, there's no way I'm spending my money on a character I know nothing about

I'm buying me a badass looking Samus

[–]Mr_Gunboss98 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

The FE characters look very badass tough. If I was a kid and new nothing about them, I would buy them because they look cool.

[–]GlassesJacketNShirt 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

What about characters kids do know about like Jigglypuff, Greninja, Meta Knight, Rosalina, etc.

Plus a lot of kids like the characters because they're in smash. My 6 year old brother wanted a little Mac and captain falcon amiibo.

[–]zoramator 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

same, never played F zero, but captain falcon has been my main since the first game. I am loyal to him and I can't even get him.

[–]Lapsy143 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Here with Villager, and I can't get him for the life of me.

[–]zoramator 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

that and the fact that they are making lower stocks of their product at a time to get as close to selling all their product in the market as possible to increase profits. This is why the monster hunter and majoras mask new 3ds were so sadly stocked(west coast USA literally got 0) as well as MM limited edition. This isn't just amiibo, people who say its unexpected need to "please understand". This is what they are doing. Letting an item sell %100 of units. Do they lose on potential buyers? Yes, but they sold everything they made. This is amiibo. Its nintendo trying to save their pocket. Its the same reason they are scooping %40 of youtube views. They are scrambling and don't know that what they are doing is just making consumers angry.

[–]darksarcasm01 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

Or, when a niche character isn't expected to sell as well as, say, Mario

If you sell every single one off the shelf, then you get maximum profit

Then, you measure the demand remaining, and put out some more to satisfy those customers. Sell out every single one, maximum profit again.

If you have some left over, then they fester and you waste money.

Why are you condemning a business for being a business?

You also forget that they originally targeted these toys for children. How many children do you know know what Fire Emblem is? Or Earthbound? I know maybe two below the age of 15.

[–]pikaboo123 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

How many kids play as Marth or Ness in Smash

Quite a bit actually

Nintendo needs to learn that not every child likes Mario

[–]darksarcasm01 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

You can't honestly say there are more Marth and Ness players than there are Mario or Link players in the children age range. You just can't! I was a kid once, and you better believe no one wanted to play as Ness or Jigglypuff.

[–]TarotFox 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Plenty of young players use characters they aren't familiar with. I never liked using Link as a kid because I wasn't good at him and didn't like his moveset, even though he otherwise would have been my favorite.

[–]darksarcasm01 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not saying they don't, I'm just saying the majority use more common characters. Nintendo is just capitalizing on the largest market.

We are the niche, after all

[–]Miox465 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I loved Roy as a kid. I had no clue where he game from. But I knew he looked awesome and I wanted to play as him. Maybe I was a weird kid but I never gravitated towards the characters I knew in smash...with an exception of Young Link for a while in melee.

To be fair...I was a playstation fanboy as a kid, so I knew less than half of the characters in the game. I didn't even recognize Zelda from appearance.

[–]Mrcollaborator 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

No that's really not it. They want our money. They are just very very cautious.

[–]makemeking706 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That, and they can only make a finite number of toys. They shipped all the amiibos they could make given what they estimated demand might be. Not being able to instantaneously make infinity amiibos is not a criticism.

[–]SSB4Decoder 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

Reprinting.

Fuck that.

The handled Meta Knight beautifully. But where in the everloving fuck did they go wrong with WFT, Marth, Ike and Pit? Holy fucking Christ. 0-1 per store? Holy shit.

It's not a stock problem, they're deliberately doing this and nothing will convince me otherwise.

[–]darksarcasm01 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ok dude, I won't try to convince you. Believe what you want, I'll just be over here having a great time not being mad.

But you haven't seen the last of reprints!

[–]ishitexcellence 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think you understand: He's really angry about it. That must make it true.

[–]Gameface121 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Some would argue that we havent seen the first of reprints either.

[–]makemeking706 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

When did they print MK? When did they print the others? How many of each did they print? How much relative demand was there? How many could they reasonably reprint while trying to fulfill future orders?

I am worried you are not making an apples to apples comparison when comparing a recent wave retailer exclusive to a nationwide release, some from launch.

[–]me909388 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

MK only had to go to best buy. Marth, Pit Wtf are going to all stores.

I'm sure that if MK wasn't exclusive the restock would have been 1-2 each store as well.

[–]Foofs123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes cuz getting truck and finding 1-2 of a highly in demand character is "reprinting". lol

[–]Azzah 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why am I still subscribed to this subreddit...?

[–]makemeking706 13ポイント14ポイント  (12子コメント)

Instead of acting like a spoiled brat, pretend for a second that you are the guy at Nintendo responsible for making the decisions. Imagine further that you have to worry about real-world logistics and constraints.

"Hey, let's make more" isn't a solution in the real. You have to outline the steps, secure the resources necessary, and negotiate contracts, among many other large and small details to make more. Based on everything Nintendo has said they are trying their hardest to meet demand, so we can probably assume that they don't have manufacturing space sitting unused.

Here are the options at this point, since the toys have launched and it is safe to say Nintendo erred on the side of underestimating than overestimating demand:

  1. Raise the price. Easiest way to handle demand that out paces supply. Prices go up, demand goes down, you stop when demand meets supply, problem solved.

  2. Reduce the quality to speed up production. There is a lot of hand painting involved currently. They could eliminate that and make an inferior product, in order to increase the quantity of the product in order to meet demand. Hopefully the backlash won't hurt too much.

  3. Procure the necessary contracts and supplies to expand production without sacrificing quality or raising the price. Presumably that is what they are doing now. All of this takes time, so hopefully everyone on the internet will please understand.

So which, assuming that Nintendo was aware the issue before they read your post, would you choose? Yeah, it sucks when demand can't be adequately met, but acting like there is a magic switch that can be flipped to solve the problem does not help the situation. Personally, with everyone foaming at the mouth, I would raise the price $2 bucks knowing it will be a net positive, increasing profit even further. I would be thankful the price is still what it was at launch, considering how much more Nintendo could get away with charging, while simultaneously solving the supply/demand problem.

[–]Skyrekon[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (9子コメント)

Based on everything Nintendo has said they are trying their hardest to meet demand, so we can probably assume that they don't have manufacturing space sitting unused.

This is where I disagree with you, and what makes the rest of your comment irrelevant. I'm full well aware that you can't snap your fingers and make millions of Amiibo.

My point has nothing to do with the limitations of actually making the Amiibo - my point is they're deliberately not creating enough to further increase demand.

[–]Practicalaviationcat 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you have an inside source telling what Nintendo is doing? Assuming that they aren't even trying is pure speculation.

[–]Serbaayuu 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Demand is already maxed out. There is literally no reason to keep trying to make that bubble bigger. They could make a million fucking Game and Watches and every single one of them would sell out.

[–]Skyrekon[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

While I agree with you, it's clear Nimtendo does not.

[–]Serbaayuu 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, it's really not.

[–]Skyrekon[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agree to disagree then.

[–]makemeking706 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

So you are saying they can snap their fingers and make more. If they are deliberately not making more when they could be making more, then yes, you think they snap their fingers and make more. If you don't actually think that, and are just having trouble getting your argument straight, then my comment is very relevant.

Of course they can make more, and we know they are making more since old figures that have had their production run are getting second runs, it takes time to do so.

[–]Skyrekon[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think you read my comment.

No, they are not capable of making more Amiibo on a dime. No, they are not trying to meet the high level of demand.

These statements are not mutually exclusive.

[–]makemeking706 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So they aren't trying to do something they are not capable of doing? Probably the wise thing to do. Trying to do things one is not capable to do usually doesn't end well.

[–]Brodude3232 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

What you say shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

[–]makemeking706 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well please enlighten us then.

[–]OddHype 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's new...

[–]lunaphae 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'm not THAT upset but I can't help but cringe whenever I see "They don't want to make more supply than demand". Is that why there's a million Mario's, Luigi's, Bowsers, and Peaches that are collecting dust on the shelves?

If they just took preorders before production or hell even after production and take them for restocks, they wouldn't have to make more than what the demand is...

[–]bobomb2014 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

They could but you would probably have to wait months to get those orders fulfilled. Anime figures especially the Good Smile Company use this approach I think it's a great approach but you have to be patient it is definitely prone to long delays of releases if demand is waaaay higher than expected. This would probably be very hard to coordinate as well with releases of new games. The downside is that once a figure runs out unless it was extremely popular you will pay the figurative arm and a leg to buy it from a re-seller (amiibo are like that already so I guess that's a problem now anyways). There are re-releases but again they take waaay long to get the whole figure made again and re-released. Remember that Nintendo thought the e-reader was going to be success but it flopped more than a Magikarp.

[–]lunaphae 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I definitely wouldn't mind waiting but that's just me. If I actually wanted the amiibo that badly I would just buy from a reseller. But I don't, I refuse to pay more than MSRP for any of my amiibos if there's a chance I can get them for that.

Bad thing is amiibo's have gotten me into figurines and I see what you mean about them costing your soul to get them after they stop production.

[–]Brodude3232 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would rather wait months to get guaranteed amiibo then spends months trying to search(unsuccessfully) for them at retail.

[–]mrolivator 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd rather wait a while and know that I will get one, instead of this life

[–]fart-princess 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Mario series has universal appeal. They can afford to sit on shelves because they absolutely will be purchased at some point. A kid who gets a Wii U and Smash for their birthday might pick up a Mario amiibo next month. There's nothing to worry about Mario.

Palutena has a niche appeal. Heck, I wouldn't discount that someone's a hardcore Nintendo fan just because they've never played a Kid Icarus game. So when even some of your hardcore audience don't know who she is, you don't want her lying on shelves because the demand dried up ages ago.

[–]lunaphae [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well let's not forget that these toys are for children. Palutena is a pretty figure, I can guarantee you that little girls would want her even if they don't even know who she is. Same with other "niche" characters. I highly doubt no one would ever buy them forever, especially when they go on sale for 10.99, 8.99 like all the other commons who sit on the shelves do.

[–]Skyrekon[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Eh. Taking and basing production off of preorders is not ideal imho. I think Nintendo has more than enough marketing data to be able to have a really solid idea of how many Amiibo they should make.

Or maybe they don't. From a business perspective, I have no idea what to expect from Nintendo anymore. Sometimes they seem ingenious, but other times it seems like they hate making money.

[–]lunaphae 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh yeah, they do....but they won't admit it. But there's an alternative around that. Probably more than a few. But yeah...they have people throwing all this money at them and they seem to not care at all.

[–]c0actum 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

Nintendo isn't solely responsible for this hostile collecting environment. It's people who tell Nintendo to fuck off and moan because of their impatience. It's hot air. If you actually hate Nintendo then take a stand and stop buying the damned things and stop being part of the toxic problem.

[–]Brodude3232 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nintendo is directly responsible for this hostile environment. They are the ones producing and letting companies sell amiibo.

[–]Skyrekon[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (4子コメント)

I never said I hated Nintendo. I'm just very displeased with them.

They're indirectly responsible for it. It's like if you went outside and dropped a million dollars on the street, you'd be indirectly (or maybe directly?) responsible when people started tearing each other apart to get it.

[–]c0actum 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then maybe choose less volatile words. Saying fuck you to a company that is responsible for creating the things you want is one of the reasons our community has a bad rep as being entitled and childish. Displeasure is fine. Complaints about things that could be better are fine. But be mature about it. Nintendo might actually care more about our opinion if we didn't react with intense disproportionate rage any time something doesn't go our way.

[–]Skyrekon[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, it's lethargic.

[–]Practicalaviationcat 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nintendo, fuck you.

Oh you must love Nintendo. Look I understand people are angry about amiibo, but we need to not be so hot headed.

[–]Skyrekon[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mm. I love their products. Perhaps saying I love the company is/was a little off.

[–]OtakuLover7100 3ポイント4ポイント  (11子コメント)

What is the blacklisted word?

[–]LugiaXerneas 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

And pepper-y

[–]Skyrekon[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (8子コメント)

It's blacklisted! I can't say it! Are you crazy?

[–]Shiny_Gallade 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

S p e l l i t.

[–]alphaProto 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

W h a t / u / s h i n y _ g a l l a d e s a i d

[–]Skyrekon[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (4子コメント)

No way José. I'm no rule-breaker. Someone might tell on me.

[–]Shiny_Gallade 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hey! My brother's José, I'm Alejandro! >:c

[–]Skyrekon[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ah, sorry Alejandro. My mistake!

[–]Shiny_Gallade 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's quite alright~

Anyways, I'm curious to what the blacklisted word is, but I respect you wanting to abide by the law. Have a good one, and good luck with that Lucina, bro!

[–]OtakuLover7100 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No I wanted him to say it like this for exmple the S word- Sc*lp

[–]sigmmakappa 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Amen!

[–]Pika_user 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

"Fuck you for indirectly creating such a hostile collecting environment that has inevitably led to more toxicity than I've EVER seen in a Nintendo community."

Well, you proved that to be true. All your comments are downvoted to oblivion, and the amount of asshats mocking you here.

[–]Skyrekon[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Meh. Downvotes shmownvotes.

[–]Pika_user 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

They're worthless really, but they do a good job proving people's claims.

[–]Bane_of_BILLEXE [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

In the end no one is downvoted past like -2 unless they really deserve it or are botted.

[–]sonicbrawler182 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

If "Shiggy" is in referral to Shigeru Miyamoto, I can't even say I still love him. In the past decade or so, he's been at the heart of many poor creative decisions in relation to many Nintendo games.

He also tried to stop the creation of what is now my favourite Nintendo character, so I'm still pretty sour with him about that.

[–]Skyrekon[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Who did he try to stop? The story is definitely familiar.

[–]sonicbrawler182 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

When Super Mario Galaxy first came out, I was a little hung up on why Rosalina was showing up when Princess Peach was already there. I thought it was fine as long as it was only Super Mario Galaxy, and we made her design so she's a little bigger. But all of a sudden she was a regular character in Mario Kart as just a regular girl, even her size turned to normal.

http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wiiu/super-mario-3d-world/0/3

This is only the most recent mention of the situation, but in the past, he has pretty much echoed his claim here more bluntly, as has Yoshiaki Koizumi. He didn't want Rosalina to be a main character in the game because (as Miyamoto is infamous for) he didn't want extended story elements in the game initially, and apparently people would only ever want Princess Peach as the female character in a main series Mario game.

He had his mind changed when Yoshiaki Koizumi presented the initial draft of Rosalina's storybook, which is great, but his claim of "we only need one female character" is borderline misogynistic, and it would have been a shame if Rosalina ended up as a minor one level character with no backstory, or cut entirely, all because of Miyamoto's stubbornness. She's one of the most profound characters Nintendo has, and is a large part of why Super Mario Galaxy stands out so much within the Mario franchise. We nearly lost what is now one of the best parts of Mario history all because of him.

This isn't even getting into all of the other stunts he's pulled, like hijacking Paper Mario: Sticker Star and turning it into the mess it is, not doing anything with F-Zero for the stupidest of reasons, not focusing on online play in games that demand it, etc.

[–]Skyrekon[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right. I actually do recall reading this recently - thank you.

That would've been frustrating for me as well. Rosalina is a character I've definitely become fond of, and a welcome addition to the SMB canon!

[–]Squidguy83 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, I wouldn't say she's the most profound character Nintendo has, as they have a lot of franchises.

[–]MacGuffen 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

This subreddit is not an direct line to Nintendo.

[–]Skyrekon[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

W-what??

[–]MacGuffen 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shocking, I know, but it is true...

Do... do you need a hug?

[–]Skyrekon[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I-It's ok...I just think I need to lie down...

[–]MatrixChicken 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Dude why did you make this awesome thing I love? I hate you."

[–]Tuy 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

My thoughts exactly. I have 3 kids, and they loved the idea of amiibo, but it faded away because we can't find amiibo's anywhere ... They are more enthusiastic about the new Disney Infinity coming out, because we know we will be able to get those figures. We love going into toy stores to see what they have in stock, sometimes things were sold out, but we knew that they might have them next week. We have almost all Disney Infinity Characters (from 1.0 & 2.0) and we never pre ordered, or ordered online. We were able to collect all of them just because we went into stores. But for amiibo ... fuck them!

[–]Iowgan 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

are u done now

[–]legendoffelfa 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, more pointless complaining

[–]LordInquisitor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm assuming you are in the US? There seem to be problems there that no other region is having

[–]Practicalaviationcat 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And most importantly of all: Fuck you for lying about it. Fuck you for this feigned ignorance of the problem and these claims that you're working on it. You know exactly what you're doing.

So where is the proof they are lying. You could be right, but making claims like this as if they are fact is just vitriolic.

[–]ToledoJones 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

Well, they aren't a toy company. Cut them some slack.

[–]Skyrekon[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Neither is Activision, but you don't see these problems with Skylanders.

[–]ToledoJones 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not sure if the two are really comparable. Skylanders were introduced as figures where as amiibo have long standing popularity in place already.

[–]Brodude3232 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

skylanders are figures, amiibo are figures.

There is literally no difference between the two, and are you telling me certain disney characters have no standing popularity in place already?

[–]ToledoJones 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Uh, yes, clearly I mentioned Disney.

[–]Squidguy83 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He is saying why aren't Disney infinity figures rare, as they have popularity already. Then he said are you telling him Disney characters aren't already popular.

[–]c0actum 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Skylanders was launched with Toys being central to the game. And they've been at it for years. Nintendo is a video game company, not a toy company. There are going to be hiccups

[–]saludosamiibos 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nintendo is also sitting on Scrooge McDuck levels of cash. They absolutely have the resources to produce enough figures to meet the demand. Sure, the initial shortages were genuine hiccups, but the fact that they're continuing to drastically underproduce even as the demand continues to grow for months raises red flags. If anything, at this point, they're intentionally playing dumb so that they can maintain this near-100% sell-through rate, because Nintendo is notoriously paranoid about overproducing items.

[–]NeonFlayr 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Welcome to the club haha. Nintendo is handling this very poorly. I still love amiibo and love some of their games, but because they dont listen to the consumer I keep expecting less and less from them. I used to never expect disapointment from Nintendo, now it never surprises me.

[–]pikaboo123 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mother fans like me are VERY used to disappointment from Nintendo

[–]NeonFlayr -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh yeah I bet haha I tried Earthbound, and I love the story and the characters, but the gameplay was just so boring to me. I see the appeal for sure, I would like to finish ot at some point, but it always puts me to sleep haha

[–]Skyrekon[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Agreed, sadly. I don't hate Nintendo by any means - they're responsible for a lot of my really good memories, but I'm becoming very very disenchanted with them.

For a long time, buying Nintendo's console has always been something I did without even thinking about it. The only choice I ever made was usually between Sony or Microsoft. After the Wii U, I can't imagine I'm even going to bother anymore.

[–]NeonFlayr 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I will wait for a game that is a must have for me. Like honestly I didnt buy a Wii U until I heard a new Smash was coming out. They didnt have any new LoZ games, other than Hyrule Warriors which is more of a spin off, no Star Fox, no Metroid, no Mario Kart. Of course I like other series, but they usually are not must haves for me.

[–]whitepikmin11 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not sure where you were, but Mario Kart 8 came out months before Smash 4 did.

[–]NeonFlayr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know, what I was saying was there was no point for me to get the Wii U when it first came out. And Mario Kart 8, like you said only came out a few months before Smash.

[–]Gluetendo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry, geez!

[–]Jtneagle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Join the club.

[–]Snerdyy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Get over it

[–]zalmute 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe you should sit back and ask yourself, why am I collecting these. Are you trying for a whole collection? Do you even want to use all of them? Honestly once I asked myself what I wanted out of amiibo I have come to the realization that I am not doing it for fun anymore. Maybe you should consider ending this hobby.

[–]Skyrekon[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm getting close, admittedly. I just want Lucina, then I'm done.

[–]ChiefsFan435 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's exactly what I did after the whole Wave 4 preorder fiasco. I just found myself not enjoying the thought of collecting them anymore. It was more work than it was worth so I ended up selling off my complete wave's 1-3 and super mario series. I won't complain to much though because what I got out of it was almost double of what I had invested lol

[–]TehJofus 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fuck you for indirectly creating such a hostile collecting environment that has inevitably led to more toxicity than I've EVER seen in a Nintendo community.

No, that's on the fans. The majority act like entitled little children.

[–]Skyrekon[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agree to disagree. I think a lot of the blame is Nintendo's, but I absolutely agree the fans should take their fair share of the blame.

Still, when I go into GameStop and see an employee being screamed at because they don't have any more WFTs in stock, it's a little scary.

[–]Meeter77 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We shouldn't direct our anger at NOA, instead let us bring the fight to Nintendo of Japan. Let's bring our rage to iwata himself.

[–]KidIcarusFan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

People claiming that they want to keep these figures off the shelves, tell me this, if they fear having a figure on shelves, why the fuck is japan and Australia loaded with the same amiibo we Americans haven't seen in stores since the first ten minutes they initially launched in the US

[–]BarreyAllen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't disagree with you.

[–]Waddles-inc 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

http://m.imgur.com/MtUJDMS

( also I can sympathize with the whole lucina business, I wish you luck.)

[–]riot2100 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm going on NoA's Twitter and linking this to them.

[–]MrStraightGrizzly 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Join the club. You get your own free stressball for those late nights staying up for preorders, and your own complimentary pitchfork for that inevitable riot on NoA.

[–]blukirbi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wave 5A isn't even out and this is how we're turning into ... sure, Nintendo is doing a very shitty job in terms of stocking amiibo, but I do agree that there is a lot of toxicity in this community. The "restocks" were a joke and a lot of amiibo are poorly stocked in general, especially store exclusives. It's encouraged most of us to become importers. I will be relieved once the SSB Series (non-DLC) is over ...

I am bugged with the fact that they spend 1-2 months manufacturing them. They are rushing them way too quickly and I'd rather see one Wave every 4 months as opposed to every other month. I also thought it was a sick burn that Disney Infinity basically told Nintendo they were irresponsible in terms of amiibo, and seeing how properly stocked Disney Infinity figures are (Did you have a hard time finding Loki, Baymax, or Elsa? If Disney Infinity had the same shit as Nintendo, we'd be only seeing Mickey and Donald Duck ...).

Also good luck with Lucina.

[–]TheSecretMe -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Somehow you're mistaking the fact that you're part of a minority obsessed with children's toys with some kind of villainous intent on Nintendo's part.

Your sense of entitlement is giving you crazy thoughts like "Nintendo ought to shift up their production plans because I'm owed amiibo!".

Being sold out is a much better problem to have than being overstocked. No company would be in a hurry to fix this.

[–]Ikkaku1986 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

You Humans Displease Me....

[–]NeonFlayr 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel like aliens think this all the time haha

[–]pikaboo123 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Time to throw a brick through Reggie's window I suppose...

[–]viridislament -1ポイント0ポイント  (12子コメント)

curious....are you a bnib collector?

[–]Skyrekon[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (11子コメント)

Nope.

[–]viridislament 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

good, i wanted to be clear on that before i rant...the following is obviously not directed at you.

all you bnib collectors are half the fucking problem. people actually buy these things to use and half the time they are unavailable due to you dumb cunts buying them to hang on your wall and look pretty. Fuck you, i cant wait for the bubble to burst and your awesome collection to be worth less than retail.

[–]Jellyfish_McSaveloy 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't understand, what's the difference if I buy my amiibos and not open them? Mine are are all open but how does that affect you if I have them all sealed?

They're still just there sitting on my shelf.

[–]FarplaneDragon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think he's referring more to the people that buy 2 of each, one to open, one to display.

[–]viridislament -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you are not opening them you are definitely not using them as game accessories, thus are contributing to an already bad situation for people who do buy them to use them.

[–]Jellyfish_McSaveloy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nintendo has always said they are figures first. Its a little elitist to think that only people who want them for the content should be allowed to purchase them. I'm sure many of you have a lot of the Smash amiibo's yet I doubt you use each and every one.

[–]Skyrekon[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't like to look at it that way.

They should be able to do that if they want to. It's Nintendo's fault that NiB collection is a problem.

[–]lunaphae 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

What is bnib?

[–]VritraReiRei 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

guess: brand new in box

first word not 100% sure about, rest is correct

[–]Lordofthereef 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm in nib collector, not for value, but because I enjoy it. I buy one of each. How am I any more a problem than the guy who buys them to open them? We are each only removing the same amount of items from the same pool as the other person. Sure, if I order ten online "just in case" one gets damaged, that's one thing, but I doubt that's the case here. Most people likely wouldn't be able to justify the cost.

I did this with Star Wars toys too. Most of them are worth about what I paid, maybe slightly more. But I had fun collecting. I still have fun having a look at them every now and then. And when my son is older he can get to decide if he would like to open some of dad's toys from another era.

No reason to rage about nib collectors just because they derive joy from the same product you do, only in a slightly different way.

[–]Brodude3232 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

YES, this. I HATE how people say NiB/OoB collecting is fine, because it really isn't. I guarantee NiB/OoB collecting wouldn't be a thing if all amiibo were easily obtainable.

[–]Lordofthereef 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably not to the extent that they are collected, true. But toy collectors collect a lot of stuff. Look at pops. Extremely popular right now. Plenty of NIB pops collectors of really common high print pieces.

The thing is this product literally brought gamers and collectors together, and even made some gamers into collectors, unlike how most other toys and figurines work.

But anyway, I can guarantee you every single toy line nowadays has bnib collectors.

[–]mrstovely -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm not a fan of people whining and bitching (but Ive done my fair share) but I can't disagree, I don't hate Nintendo as much as you do but I can say I'm very upset with them and how crazy they've turned some fans into. Except the ones who were always antisocial basement dwelling arseholes anyway.

[–]Skyrekon[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nononononononono.

Please don't get it wrong - I do not hate Nintendo. I'm just very displeased and angry with them. Sort of like an old dog who won't stop pissing on the goddamn carpet.

[–]mrstovely -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh okay. So we're on the same boat then.

[–]willstuh -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Angry Joe? Is that you?

[–]hatsyy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sounds like a poor baby doesn't get all the toys he wants *tear

Its way more fun and interesting whens there is rares and commons

[–]SteamySlugma [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Its way more fun and interesting when you need to pay $40 on amazon for your favorite character since you were a child

FTFY

[–]PasteeyFan420LoL -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nintendo has been EA for a long time They've always been ruthless and mean and underhanded but they have the family friendly image and all your nostalgia to hide behind.