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[–]dbzer0 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (30子コメント)

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/r/Anarchism is controlled by a tyrannical mod board.

Don't listen to the troll's bullshit. /r/anarchism is controlled by its anarchist community and anyone who has been active in /r/@ and wants to be a mod, is added.

[–]DefaultGen[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (16子コメント)

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Censored by the anarchism community to keep the undesirables, opposing ideas and bad speech out! If you don't think that belongs in /r/SubredditDrama, I don't know what does. Hell a search for "Anarchism drama" brings up reddit.com on the first page and your website on the second!

[–]dbzer0 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (15子コメント)

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Censored by the anarchism community to keep the undesirables, opposing ideas and bad speech out!

Keeping Oppressive speech and harassment and constant drama stirring out. Yes. "opposing ideas", no. It might belong here just because of the drama, but most of the drama is caused by the rest of reddit trying to tell anarchists how to run their community, not for the disingenuous reasons you posted.

Hell a search for "Anarchism drama" brings up reddit.com on the first page and your website on the second!

Arguments from popularity are logical fallacies.

[–]vintermann 1ポイント2ポイント * (6子コメント)

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Keeping ... constant drama stirring out.

What do you call your keyboard-salad-buddy's attempt to takeover r/blackflag and r/unmoderatedanarchism, if not drama stirring?

You're not anarchist. You're doctrinaire marxists at best. Instead of justifying your authoritarianism with the oppressed proletariat, you've upgraded it to more contemporary victim groups - but all modern marxists do that.

At worst, you're trolls.

[–]dbzer0 -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

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What do you call your keyboard-salad-buddy's attempt to takeover r/blackflag and r/unmoderatedanarchism, if not drama stirring?

"Making a Point"? I believe it was mostly tongue-in-cheek to show how fragile "non-moderation" is, and in the end it worked, as a non-anarchist is now the de-facto dictator of those subs.

You're not anarchist. You're doctrinaire marxists at best.

Lulz. Learn what those words mean before you presume to use them.

[–]vintermann 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

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You know, odds are I know quite a bit more about political theory than most people who use words like "lulz".

"Making a Point"?

Even if that was true, that's what your own trolls do. They're proving anarchism (as you define it) is deeply hypocritical and can't work in any meaningful sense.

[–]dbzer0 -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

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You know, odds are I know quite a bit more about political theory than most people who use words like "lulz".

Yeah, because a particular taste in humor is mutually exclusive with knowing about political theory. Lulz.

Even if that was true, that's what your own trolls do. They're proving anarchism (as you define it) is deeply hypocritical and can't work in any meaningful sense.

Spoken as someone who truly has no idea about anarchism. Something further reinforced by your previous claim that capitalists or MRAs can be anarchists.

Don't worry, I'm used to people ignorant in anarchism claiming that anarchism cannot work, according to the principles they just made up.

[–]vintermann 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

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Spoken as someone who truly has no idea about anarchism. Something further reinforced by your previous claim that capitalists or MRAs can be anarchists.

I am a nominalist (look it up. lulz). I don't care much about the "real" definition of anarchism. I am perfectly aware capitalists or MRAs can't be anarchists according to your definition.

The problem - for you - is that the trolls "prove" anarchism cannot work according to the principles you define it by.

[–]dbzer0 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

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The problem - for you - is that the trolls "prove" anarchism cannot work according to the principles you define it by.

Given that you don't understand anarchism, I doubt you understand what principles I define it by.

Certainly nothing of what you just said is true. What is proven, is that anarchism within an inherently hierarchical system like reddit (or capitalism) is impossible, which is of course nothing new.

[–]vintermann 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Given that you don't understand anarchism

Ah, but this is not a given :-) I could not possibly know exactly what anarchism means to you, but from your posts and actions, I can rule out some things and suspect others. Your type of anarchism isn't news to me.

[–]Himmelreich 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

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Keeping Oppressive speech and harassment and constant drama

Free speech is free speech.

[–]dbzer0 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

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Tautologies and tautological.

[–]Himmelreich -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

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Not with your doublethink.

[–]dbzer0 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

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Oh yeah? I'm rubber, You're glue!

[–]Himmelreich -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

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And you're a troll.

Thanks for playing.

[–]dbzer0 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

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And you're a troll.

That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

[–]Himmelreich 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

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You're acting like a retard to provoke reaction.

Again, thanks for playing.

[–]vintermann 2ポイント3ポイント  (12子コメント)

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Don't listen to the troll's bullshit. /r/anarchism is controlled by its anarchist community and anyone who has been active in /r/@ and wants to be a mod, is added.

Something tells me you wouldn't add, say, an anarcho-capitalist, or an anarchist who was also an MRA. Not that they would get a chance to be active on r/a.

Saying r/anarchism is controlled by "its anarchist community", is true in much the same sense the early Soviet Union was controlled by "its proletariat".

[–]dbzer0 0ポイント1ポイント  (11子コメント)

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Something tells me you wouldn't add, say, an anarcho-capitalist, or an anarchist who was also an MRA.

Given that being an MRA or a capitalist would exclude them from being anarchists, I don't see why they should get a say in the management of an anarchist community

Saying r/anarchism is controlled by "its anarchist community", is true in much the same sense the early Soviet Union was controlled by "its proletariat".

I bet you say that against all forms of organization you disagree with.

[–]vintermann 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

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OK? Let's try this then:

/r/Anarchism is controlled by a tyrannical mod board, who define anarchism to exclude anyone who remotely disagrees with them.

Happy now?

I bet you say that against all forms of organization you disagree with.

As it happens, I could say the same about many organizations whose identity is defined in a top-down manner. The catholic church, for instance, and many extremist political parties.

[–]dbzer0 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (9子コメント)

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/r/Anarchism is controlled by active people suggested by the community, who define anarchism according to the historical basis of the sociopolitical movement.

FTFY.

As it happens, I could say the same about many organizations whose identity is defined in a top-down manner.

Given that we're bottom up as much as reddit allows us, you seem to be clutching at straws.

[–]vintermann 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

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who define anarchism according to the historical basis of the sociopolitical movement.

FTFY.

Is that any better? That's the basis the pope defines Christianity by, too. We are the caretakers of this tradition! We are the legitimate heirs of Proudhon, Bakunin and Kropotkin! It is our property!

Given that we're bottom up as much as reddit allows us, you seem to be clutching at straws.

You have written bots yourself, you know leaving mod power in the hands of a bot would permit you to experiment as much as you would like.

But no matter what system of organization you choose, you could not preserve the ideological purity you want without something equivalent to the hierachical inner circle that reddit allows you. r/anarchism is nothing new in this, I've seen it dozens of times in fringe microparties in my own country, both on the left and right (yes, I keep an eye on those sort of things).

This is part of the reason why so many fringe microparties come to hate democracy.

[–]dbzer0 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (7子コメント)

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Is that any better? That's the basis the pope defines Christianity by, too. We are the caretakers of this tradition! We are the legitimate heirs of Proudhon, Bakunin and Kropotkin! It is our property!

Not a good analogy. A better one would be christians opposing muslims and atheists calling themselves Christian while rejecting Jesus as a messiah.

You have written bots yourself, you know leaving mod power in the hands of a bot would permit you to experiment as much as you would like.

Not possible.

But no matter what system of organization you choose, you could not preserve the ideological purity you want without something equivalent to the hierachical inner circle that reddit allows you.

Nonsense. The only reason we have any hierarchical form, if because reddit forces us to. But reddit does not equal an AFK community which works in a completely different way, as multiple anarchist communities throughout history prove.

I have no ider what the rest of your rant about "microparties" is about, but don't let me get in the way of you patting yourself on the back.

[–]vintermann 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

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Not surprising that someone as dogmatic as you wouldn't understand, but try. It may well save you from grief later on if you ever take your anarchism further than an internet forum.

[–]dbzer0 -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

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Yeah, I'm dogmatic because I don't recognise every claim of self-professed "anarchists"

[–]vintermann 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

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No, you're dogmatic because you think you have all the answers, and are not willing to let them be questioned. Including answers to such absurd questions as what a "real" anarchist is.