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Holy white feminism, prime (self.SRSMeta)

fuckeverything_panda が 投稿

just glanced at /r/ShitRedditSays expecting to see lots of stuff related to the anti-Black terrorist attack in Charleston, e.g. the manifesto that's come out saying online forums were central to his path to white supremacy. Instead I'm seeing a pro-Ellen Pao circlejerk, and a few other posts that are all about gender, nothing about race.

Do you realize Ellen Pao could have shut down /r/coontown and all the other white supremacist subs on Reddit by now? Do you realize the NSA and FBI, if they were actually paying attention to terrorist-leaning forums, could have prevented the massacre and chose not to? SRS, we're right - those posts do matter, the "but mah freeze peaches" people are successfully dominating the public discourse so Reddit won't touch that stuff. Not to mention Ellen Pao's anti-worker hiring policy in the guise of white liberal feminism (labor unions and collective bargaining are the way to get rid of gender disparities, not getting rid of negotiation).

SRSters, please. Get your priorities right.

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[–]greenduch 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I made a megathread over in Disco, if you want to participate over there.

[–]ZombieL 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

I think it's mostly because Ellen Pao freeze peach rage is funny and deep seated racism is depressing. The whole fattening thing (as srd has dubbed it) has been thoroughly entertaining because its provided so many easy opportunities to make fun of angry redditurds being upset about inconsequential things.

I mean, srs has always been a place to mock, vent and blow off steam, not a place to do activism or serious criticism. I do agree those things are needed, and reddit's racism should be called out, but it is a dreary task.

[–]fuckeverything_panda[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is such a fucking cop out. Buzzfeed is beating us. The only posts about Charleston on my front page this morning were from /r/blackladies. If we don't care about solidarity with black women on Reddit and with #BlackLivesMatter, we need to do some serious introspection here.

[–]CressCrowbits 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

What exactly do you think srs prime is for? It's for calling out shitty comments on reddit, that's it, that's all its ever been.

[–]fuckeverything_panda[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

At some point when half the posts are meta/internal Reddit drama and the other half are white feminist talking points, it says something about what people care enough about to vent about in prime. I assure you there is no shortage of racist shit to link.

[–]OtakuOlga 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why are you surprised that in a sub that has the word reddit in its name, 50% of the posts "are meta/internal Reddit drama"? The name lends itself to that content.

[–]somewhat_oxygenated 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not a cop out. Social justice is not the goal of Prime. Having fun at the expenses of bigots is. Most posters on prime only care about their personal pet peeves and they'll gladly throw anyone under the bus who's not on their list of protected identities. If you want a feminist space, go to srsDiscussion or any of the topic-specifc subs in the fempire.

[–]TommorowsAshes 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/3afeqp/brdcast_reddits_racists_celebrate_charleston/

[–]SRS-SRSLY 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shit reddit says is about the shit that reddit says, and even as reddity as reddit is, there's not a lot of really toxic shit riding the top comments in those. The whole situation was pretty cut and dry: the obviously racist person was evil and his actions were indefensible. The shit comes and goes in waves, and right now racist shit isn't very popular right now because nobody wants to side with the shooter.

Do you realize Ellen Pao could have shut down /r/coontown and all the other white supremacist subs on Reddit by now?

There's a lot of circlejerking about Pao being a saint and what not, but I think we know it's reddit's yearly culling of it's most vocal shit. We're mostly just rubbing it in because we know it pisses redditors off. Sure, we'd love to see coontown culled, but coontown only cropped up after n____ got it's own banning. Ditto creepshots -> candidfasion police. We yuk it up cause it's fun to dream, but we know the banning of FPH represents virtually nothing.

[–]TommorowsAshes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also SRS has a policy against posting the "low hanging fruit" found in dedicated shitsubs such as r/c***town.

[–]fuckeverything_panda[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

This isn't to defend the NSA or advocate its expansion - just evidence against the main argument in its favor, namely that they need all that surveillance to protect "us" from terrorist attacks. This just reminds us they can't be trusted - they are monitoring black high schooler's facebooks instead of actual neo Nazi fora because they're not there to protect people, they're there to maintain and expand white supremacist capitalist imperialist patriarchy. Protecting Black people from white terrorists is not on their agenda, and history gives us no reason to think U.S. spy agencies will ever be agents of social justice.

[–]Dworkinator 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

and nothing submitted by you

[–]TunicSongForKaren 7ポイント8ポイント  (11子コメント)

This is a copout that I didnt expect from you of all people. The OP is right - I had expected a meta-post about Charleston in Prime at least, or maybe people doing an effortpost in response to the many shitty /r/news posts.

White feminism is pretty prevalent in SRS, and a lot of SRSters are a lot more privileged than they think they are, if only by the fact that they have access to a computer and have the free time to browse SRS in the first place.

[–]Dworkinator -2ポイント-1ポイント  (10子コメント)

theres no barrier for submitting things to prime.

im disappointed that no ones submitting all of the crap for the charleston shooting. im also disappointed at op for not doing anything about it either. its kinda bullshit.

if you see something on reddit thats complete crap, submit it. its not hard. you want to see an effort post? do an effort post. submit everything you see and youll be my favorite. seriosuly. i want more on srs.

but to complain that no one is submitting quotes when you yourself arent doing shit either? fucking bullshit.

[–]fuckeverything_panda[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because I haven't had time to browse Reddit lately, and was quickly checking prime hoping to get an overview of Reddit reactions. Sometimes I have more time/energy for shit shoveling and submit more. When I do submit to prime, it's generally intersectional. You're derailing.

[–]eco-feminism 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I usually don't comment outside of SRS Prime, but I wanted to chime in here.

You're derailing.

Completely agree. Asking "Why hasn't anyone submitted anything more about the Charleston shootings?" and getting a response like "Why don't you submit it?" completely misses the point.

Now, maybe there is a reason why no one has submitted anything: lack of shitty reddit comments, or what /u/ZombieL said:

I think it's mostly because Ellen Pao freeze peach rage is funny and deep seated racism is depressing.

But, I think your concern opens up a discussion on intersectionality and racism; having it dismissed like that is saddening. I can't believe that that comment was upvoted.

[–]TunicSongForKaren 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

I am pretty active on SRS Prime actually. Search author:tunicsongforkaren in the search bar. That is not the issue - I'd like to see a metapost adressing the existence of /r/C___Town and how it creates people violent fuckfaces that should rot in hell, like Dylann Roof.

I propose mass-mailing yet another round of news outlets to let people know about the existence of /r/C___Town. Let's surf the wave of media reports in the wake of Roof's terrorist act.

Highlighting what Reddit does is not productive in this case - SRS Prime is for venting and reassuring yourself that you are not going mad when browsing Reddit dot com. I can search out yet another /r/videos post and control+F "dindu" for easy Prime karma, but that is not really relevant here. The metaposts have always been the activist part of SRS, and I'd say we launch another Project Panda.

[–]Dworkinator -5ポイント-4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'd like to see a metapost adressing the existence of /r/C___Town and how it creates people violent fuckfaces that should rot in hell, like Dylann Roof.

write one and let me look it over. seriously this is what i want.

im all about this.

Highlighting what Reddit does is not productive in this case - SRS Prime is for venting and reassuring yourself that you are not going mad when browsing Reddit dot com. I can search out yet another /r/videos post and control+F "dindu" for easy Prime karma, but that is not really relevant here.

no, thast what op was complaing about. that there wasnt enough posts about race.

if you want to do something about the subreddits, write it up and we'll contact journalists.

[–]TunicSongForKaren 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Will do. I have been toying for a while with this right now. I don't give a shit about "saving Reddit", it's just that Reddit is a multimillion user site which means it makes it easy for large swaths of people to find racist subreddits by accident and get hooked in by the propaganda.

That is what I want to prevent, and I think that should be the underlying message of our metapost and the awareness campaign.

[–]Dworkinator -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't give a shit about "saving Reddit"

iunno who said that was our goal. BRD was pretty literally.

[–]TunicSongForKaren 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah I know lol, ur pretty much the last person Id expect to want to save this hellhole of a webshite.

I meant more in general, cause some people seem to be under the impression that if we just shut down poopsubs that it will magically become a land of faeries and rainbows in here

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